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Sharon Camarillo Clinics?
fulltiltfilly
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Posted 2013-12-14 10:19 AM
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 Has anyone ever been to one? Did you like it?

There is not much in the way of clinics in my area other then Josey in March but I want a clinic with more one on one time and the Camarillo clinic is the only other option. 
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
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My best friend went to a SC clinic.  She's a tough cookie but was made to feel pretty dumb.  Its been 20 some years ago and she still talks about how she was humiliated in front of the clinic.
Any other options?  I got tired of driving 4-7 hours to a clinic so I put one on myself.  Rented an indoor and started looking for interested girls.  I was amazed how fast that clinic filled.  Very successful and had a blast.  Could this be an option for you?
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CYA Ranch - 2013-12-14 11:26 AM My best friend went to a SC clinic.  She's a tough cookie but was made to feel pretty dumb.  Its been 20 some years ago and she still talks about how she was humiliated in front of the clinic.

Any other options?  I got tired of driving 4-7 hours to a clinic so I put one on myself.  Rented an indoor and started looking for interested girls.  I was amazed how fast that clinic filled.  Very successful and had a blast.  Could this be an option for you?

I did book Ed Wright last summer but had very little interest and had to cancel. I was very disappointed.  Ed is doing a clinic in Virginia in June (a 6 hour drive for me) and I am considering it but will cost a small fortune to haul there. 
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Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2013-12-14 10:35 AM
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Paul Humphrey will be doing a clinic in Connecticut in 2014..not sure of the date...
He puts on a very good clinic...also check out his website or facebook page and order his new dvd...not sure of web address. www.breakingthemoldwithpaul.com or something like that..
 
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Reg. Feb 2008
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fulltiltfilly - 2013-12-14 10:31 AM
CYA Ranch - 2013-12-14 11:26 AM My best friend went to a SC clinic.  She's a tough cookie but was made to feel pretty dumb.  Its been 20 some years ago and she still talks about how she was humiliated in front of the clinic.

Any other options?  I got tired of driving 4-7 hours to a clinic so I put one on myself.  Rented an indoor and started looking for interested girls.  I was amazed how fast that clinic filled.  Very successful and had a blast.  Could this be an option for you?
I did book Ed Wright last summer but had very little interest and had to cancel. I was very disappointed.  Ed is doing a clinic in Virginia in June (a 6 hour drive for me) and I am considering it but will cost a small fortune to haul there. 

This past April I drove 5 1/2 hours to a Connie Combs clinic but driving hours to do anything in my country is normal.  I try to hit one of her clinics every year for a tune up.  There's enough interest around here though to fill clinics.  I'm sorry you didn't have any luck.  Maybe try a different clinician?
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Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2013-12-14 10:42 AM
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CYA Ranch - 2013-12-14 11:36 AM
fulltiltfilly - 2013-12-14 10:31 AM
CYA Ranch - 2013-12-14 11:26 AM My best friend went to a SC clinic.  She's a tough cookie but was made to feel pretty dumb.  Its been 20 some years ago and she still talks about how she was humiliated in front of the clinic.

Any other options?  I got tired of driving 4-7 hours to a clinic so I put one on myself.  Rented an indoor and started looking for interested girls.  I was amazed how fast that clinic filled.  Very successful and had a blast.  Could this be an option for you?
I did book Ed Wright last summer but had very little interest and had to cancel. I was very disappointed.  Ed is doing a clinic in Virginia in June (a 6 hour drive for me) and I am considering it but will cost a small fortune to haul there. 
This past April I drove 5 1/2 hours to a Connie Combs clinic but driving hours to do anything in my country is normal.  I try to hit one of her clinics every year for a tune up.  There's enough interest around here though to fill clinics.  I'm sorry you didn't have any luck.  Maybe try a different clinician?

I don't know if I would try again to hold a clinic. I would love to do a Charmayne clinic but it seems she never gets anywhere near the East coast.

I may just suck it up and haul to Virginia. My trainer moved back home to FL and there aren't any decent trainers within a reasonable distance to me so I figured a clinic was the way to go. 
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ridejg - 2013-12-14 11:35 AM Paul Humphrey will be doing a clinic in Connecticut in 2014..not sure of the date...

He puts on a very good clinic...also check out his website or facebook page and order his new dvd...not sure of web address. www.breakingthemoldwithpaul.com or something like that..
 

I have not heard of him but I will check out his website. Thanks for the suggestion!  
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Posted 2013-12-14 10:53 AM
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I went to one of her clinics many years ago and it was a very good clinic. She is honest and isn't going to water it down for you so if you cant handle the truth or brutal honesty then I don't recommend her clinic. I like someone to tell me how it really is and exactly what Im doing wrong so I can fix it. Im not paying them to be nice or sugar coat anything! I'm paying for their honesty. Of course I like her a lot, I wasn't offended at all!!! She has a world of knowledge and she doesn't just go over barrel racing. She goes over other things that help build a good barrel horse like certain exercises and things...not just turning barrels. I recommend going to a clinic where the clinician is a trainer...not just a jockey. There is a big difference in knowing how to make a barrel horse and knowing how to ride a barrel horse.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2013-12-14 11:19 AM
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Been to Sharon's clinic, I find it is better for a young horse as you are mainly working drills at slower speeds. She also focuses on horsemanship. Yes she was always picking at me, and left some other people alone, I am glad she was trying to better my riding.

Some of her ways didn't really click until I was at home and working with different horses.

If you have a young horse that needs work or your skills need a ten up, her clinic would be worth going to, if you have a seasoned horse, I wouldn't suggest it

Also Ed wright is tough, so either one can make people cry. Myself I love Ed's clinic

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Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2013-12-14 11:41 AM
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cheryl makofka - 2013-12-14 12:19 PM Been to Sharon's clinic, I find it is better for a young horse as you are mainly working drills at slower speeds. She also focuses on horsemanship. Yes she was always picking at me, and left some other people alone, I am glad she was trying to better my riding. Some of her ways didn't really click until I was at home and working with different horses. If you have a young horse that needs work or your skills need a ten up, her clinic would be worth going to, if you have a seasoned horse, I wouldn't suggest it Also Ed wright is tough, so either one can make people cry. Myself I love Ed's clinic

I  do have a seasoned horse. 

How is the Ed clinic with seasoned horses? 
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mommy23trkies - 2013-12-14 11:53 AM I went to one of her clinics many years ago and it was a very good clinic. She is honest and isn't going to water it down for you so if you cant handle the truth or brutal honesty then I don't recommend her clinic. I like someone to tell me how it really is and exactly what Im doing wrong so I can fix it. Im not paying them to be nice or sugar coat anything! I'm paying for their honesty. Of course I like her a lot, I wasn't offended at all!!! She has a world of knowledge and she doesn't just go over barrel racing. She goes over other things that help build a good barrel horse like certain exercises and things...not just turning barrels. I recommend going to a clinic where the clinician is a trainer...not just a jockey. There is a big difference in knowing how to make a barrel horse and knowing how to ride a barrel horse.

I am going so I can improve so it doesn't have to be sugar coated just constructive.  
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Posted 2013-12-14 2:42 PM
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6 hour one way is normal in Florida.  Every year I have attended Pat Wyse clinics, the drive is 6-7 hour trip depending on traffic.  I camp the 4 days and make the drive back.

 
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cheryl makofka - 2013-12-14 12:19 PM Been to Sharon's clinic, I find it is better for a young horse as you are mainly working drills at slower speeds. She also focuses on horsemanship. Yes she was always picking at me, and left some other people alone, I am glad she was trying to better my riding. Some of her ways didn't really click until I was at home and working with different horses. If you have a young horse that needs work or your skills need a ten up, her clinic would be worth going to, if you have a seasoned horse, I wouldn't suggest it Also Ed wright is tough, so either one can make people cry. Myself I love Ed's clinic

I  do have a seasoned horse. 

How is the Ed clinic with seasoned horses? 

With Ed's clinic it is a lot of slow work, getting seat positioning, he likes more forward then dena Kirkpatrick, he also likes the hand in the top half of the horses neck at all times.

If you have a seasoned horse take your videos with you, as he will watch the video tell you what he sees, then will send you around the pattern slowly. By the second day people with seasoned horses were loping and some were making runs. It all depends on how comfortable you are with the slow work and the progression of your day.

I think you would get a lot out of the Ed wright clinic
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fulltiltfilly
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2013-12-14 3:32 PM
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fulltiltfilly - 2013-12-14 11:41 AM
cheryl makofka - 2013-12-14 12:19 PM Been to Sharon's clinic, I find it is better for a young horse as you are mainly working drills at slower speeds. She also focuses on horsemanship. Yes she was always picking at me, and left some other people alone, I am glad she was trying to better my riding. Some of her ways didn't really click until I was at home and working with different horses. If you have a young horse that needs work or your skills need a ten up, her clinic would be worth going to, if you have a seasoned horse, I wouldn't suggest it Also Ed wright is tough, so either one can make people cry. Myself I love Ed's clinic
I  do have a seasoned horse. 



How is the Ed clinic with seasoned horses? 
With Ed's clinic it is a lot of slow work, getting seat positioning, he likes more forward then dena Kirkpatrick, he also likes the hand in the top half of the horses neck at all times. If you have a seasoned horse take your videos with you, as he will watch the video tell you what he sees, then will send you around the pattern slowly. By the second day people with seasoned horses were loping and some were making runs. It all depends on how comfortable you are with the slow work and the progression of your day. I think you would get a lot out of the Ed wright clinic

Thanks that is good to know! 
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Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2013-12-14 3:46 PM
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I audited one if her clinics a couple years ago, it was good I agree for younger horses who need more drilling and slow work exercises. I talked with her for a little bit afterwords and she definitely doesn't sugarcoat anything.
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Posted 2013-12-14 5:27 PM
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I have been to Sharon's and Ed's.    I did like Sharon, but she spend 50% of her time with the girl who put the clinic on. .   Her assistant did most of the work.  Sharon's clinics are geared more for younger horses and didn't seem to help the seasoned ones as well.   She likes to sell her products and I didn't notice any hurt feelings.

Ed on the other hand, is better at the seasoned horse and rider.    Everyone should go to him at least once in their lifetime.  

I personally think it is better to spend your money with a trainer (one on one) than a clinician.    If you are trying to season a horse, a clinic is good because it helps teach them patience.    
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fulltiltfilly - 2013-12-14 10:42 AM
ridejg - 2013-12-14 11:35 AM Paul Humphrey will be doing a clinic in Connecticut in 2014..not sure of the date...

He puts on a very good clinic...also check out his website or facebook page and order his new dvd...not sure of web address. www.breakingthemoldwithpaul.com or something like that..
 
I have not heard of him but I will check out his website. Thanks for the suggestion!  

Paul is very very knowledgeable in regards to horsemanship and barrel racing.  His clinics are now teamed up with Levi Olsen who starts all of his horses.  Paul was competing and training in Italy for a while, but he's back in the States and putting on clinics.  I've been to a few clinics: Reinhardt, Lynn Mckenzie, Ed Wright, and Paul's.  Each clinician knew their stuff, but what will really make the clinic beneficial is if the style of riding/barrel racing the clinician is teaching works with your own personal style.  Some things each of them taught didn't necessarily work for my style or the horse I was riding at the clinic, but it worked on other horses.  I definitely walked away from each clinic knowing a little more (and forgetting most of what they taught ), and you build your knowledge to suit your own personal style. 

A lot of the clinicians now are focusing more on horsmanship and getting back down to the basics and not a "quick fix" with the newest gadget or headgear, which I think is awesome and super advantageous to those who want to better themselves as a horsewoman/man.  Ed is a fantastic horseman.  He can be gruff though, which usually doesn't bother me.  It didn't help when I went to his clinic that Aunt Flow was in town and I was already an emotional headcase.  Thankfully they have those big bug-eye looking sunglasses that hid my tears!  I know if it was any normal day, I would not have been upset at what he was saying, but when those hormones are raging I cry at tampon commercials
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But back to Paul, he is really good and a fountain of knowledge; I'd definitely recommend going to one of his clinics.  I love love love his exercises too, and they make so much sense!  Best of luck! 




 
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Reg. Sep 2005
Posted 2013-12-14 7:22 PM
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I won't even buy a bit with her name on it.  It was one of the worst experiences I have ever been to.  No only unorganized, hours and hours of wasted time, she was cruel.  
I'm not talking about just strong words, and corrections.  I mean just out right cruel.  She told an 11 year old girl her horse should go to bar-b-q.  Our clinic started with 20 on Friday, by Sunday they were down to 14.  Grown women who were good at what they did left and said they would never come back.  Sharon told me herself (she knew I was angry) that if it were up to her, she would never run an open clinic.  She prefers to work with advanced level barrel racers and would like to require a "qualifying" race to attend her clinics, but her sponsors would not allow anything like that. 
We were there to learn, not be insulted and made fun of.  She seemed to pick a couple of people to "attack" more than others.   Also, this was my opinion, not fact, but it seemed the people with the biggest trucks and trailers were her special friends.  If you were there in an old truck and trailer, she did not want to even pay attention to you.

The clinic coordinator profussly appologised to me multiple times.  We stayed, but I swore then I would tell anyone and everyone that ever asked exactally what happened and why I would NEVER recommend her to anyone.

I didn't even go into detail here about things that happened, but I would be glad to.

Since then have been to several, with very critical coaches and they were respectful and honest.  Not cruel and rude.

Good Luck, however I would never waste my money.  Which is what she told me I did when I asked why they told me children were welcome?  The group was about 50/50 children/adult.  One child left the others were grown women and at least 1 of them qualified for WPRA Circut finals a few years after that.  So I'm not talking about poor riders that could not handle being corrected.
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I've been to one or two Sharon Clinics a year since 2004. I don't pay her to tell me how good of a horse I have or how great of a rider I am. She doesn't sugar coat anything. She is a first class horse woman, and so are the people she brings along to help with the clinic. I've gone from thinking I was pretty hot ****, to actually having some great horseman ship skills and some nice horses. She may not be for everyone, but I love her. And every clinic I go home from I leave with a huge page of homework for the year. I have seen people cry, mad, leave, and then I've seen the ones who stayed and pay attention KICK ASS at the top levels.
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Posted 2013-12-14 9:29 PM
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Ed Wright doesn't sugarcoat anything but at least he is respectful to the people who pay him to help them.  I feel like I could have been at the same Sharon clinic as Swannranch, but since I live 800 miles from Florida, I'm sure I wasn't.  I, too, will refrain from going into details publicly, but her personality obviously remains constant, which is not meant as a compliment.  I quit listening when when my ears catch on fire.  At least she had to stand by me and smile for the picture of me and my beautiful saddle from the Eastern Classic that year.  HOOAH!!!
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Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2013-12-14 9:47 PM
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I have drove 5 hrs for a Ed clinic twice and it was well worth it.  Yes he is honest but I guarantee that if you pay attention and he thinks you are really there to learn he will give you 200 percent.  On the other hand if you want to argue with him he won't.  Yes you can ask him why this or that but argue with him.  To put it simple he will put into it just as much as you want to put into it.
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Posted 2013-12-14 9:47 PM
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I've been taking 1-2 Sharon clinics a year for 5 or so years now. The difference in my riding, training, and competitive mind is unbelievable. Her program works for every horse and rider out there, as long as you're willing to listen and learn. She's a fantastic, talented woman.
On a side note, I took a dena clinic last spring and will never attend another. I consider myself to be "Sharon trained" and dena's clinic was a waste of money IMO. You get what you pay for with Sharon. Long, tiring days. But guess what -- that's what it takes to improve!
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I have seen Sharon work with alot of students on seasoned horses and improve them also, so I don't understand the comment on here about that.  If you were the one putting on the Ed W clinic,  I think you are very close to the horse park where the clinic will be held in April. If you horse is in shape to go... I don't know why you would be hesitating to go to her clinic then.  I do know that they are getting a number of people signing up for it already and there is limited space - so if you are looking to go you should probably reach out to Erica. And yes I have been to quite a few on 4 different horses over the years - will be at the one in April at the horse park with my new horse and looking forward to it already!
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Posted 2013-12-15 6:52 AM
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I attended my first Sharon and Storme Camarillo clinic during the fall, 2013.

It is the BEST thing that I've done for myself (or my horse) in a long time.

I'm a newer barrel racer and found the two teaching styles of Sharon and Storme worked well for me. Sharon is technical and looking for perfection, while Storme is practical and can re-teach what Sharon says for those of us who don't get it the first time.

I enjoyed my weekend immensly and would do it again in a heartbreat.

I would consider more recent clinic attendee's responses more than those who attended years ago...give people a chance to learn and change. Teaching is the hardest job ...it's a skill learned over time and many are not naturals at it.
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Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2013-12-15 8:05 AM
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Thank you everyone for your responses! I will certainly take all of your experiences into consideration when I make my decision on which clinic to attend this coming year.  
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Posted 2013-12-15 8:12 AM
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diggerdoo - 2013-12-14 10:29 PM Ed Wright doesn't sugarcoat anything but at least he is respectful to the people who pay him to help them.  I feel like I could have been at the same Sharon clinic as Swannranch, but since I live 800 miles from Florida, I'm sure I wasn't.  I, too, will refrain from going into details publicly, but her personality obviously remains constant, which is not meant as a compliment.  I quit listening when when my ears catch on fire.  At least she had to stand by me and smile for the picture of me and my beautiful saddle from the Eastern Classic that year.  HOOAH!!!

Was that this year? I did attend the open barrel race held on Sunday of the Camarillo (or East Coast-whatever it was called!) Classic. That show ran waaaaaaaaay late but there was alot going on in the morning before the Open.  
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diggerdoo - 2013-12-14 10:29 PM Ed Wright doesn't sugarcoat anything but at least he is respectful to the people who pay him to help them.  I feel like I could have been at the same Sharon clinic as Swannranch, but since I live 800 miles from Florida, I'm sure I wasn't.  I, too, will refrain from going into details publicly, but her personality obviously remains constant, which is not meant as a compliment.  I quit listening when when my ears catch on fire.  At least she had to stand by me and smile for the picture of me and my beautiful saddle from the Eastern Classic that year.  HOOAH!!!
Was that this year? I did attend the open barrel race held on Sunday of the Camarillo (or East Coast-whatever it was called!) Classic. That show ran waaaaaaaaay late but there was alot going on in the morning before the Open.  

No, it was at the Eastern Classic in Sterling Illinois about 10 years ago.  
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I went to a Sharon Camarillo clinic a kazillion years ago when I was in the Arabian industry and they were offering an "invitational" Arabian Barrel Race at the Nationals that year.  It was my most successful year ever at the Arab Nationals and even though I was associated with one of the top Arabian trainers in the country, my success had a lot to do with the HORSEMANSHIP skills and exercises that Sharon taught me and that I used on all three horses that I took to the Nationals.  I hauled in to her clinic with a "prissy little Arabian gelding" and she gave me and him as much respect as if I was the top WPRA barrel racer.  She is a true horseman and an intelligent lady and I would go to her clinic again.  I have gone to Ed Wright's and he reminds me a lot of her in dedication and intensity, though their training styles are very different.  You can learn from ANYONE if you decide to take advantage of their wisdom and experience and don't go looking for pats on the back.   
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I am not sure where you are located in New Jersey- but I believe WrapNSnap is located somewhere out east - and if you could connect with him, he has a tremendous amount of knowledge to offer - maybe not a full clinic setting, but if you could ride with him for a few weekends, I bet he could offer you some very good advice. 

The hardest part about attending a clinic is 1 - the expense, 2 - the people - waiting around for other riders to do the drills and if some are beginning riders, makes for a long day and 3- the clinicians - they get tired by the end of the day and sometimes their patience wains.

I attended six Camarillo clinics and I am done with her, will never attend another one.  I now ride with colt starters/trainers, and reiners, and I have learned more from them about the very fine details - my private lessons and the money spent has put me farther ahead than attending a clinic for a weekend. 
 
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Swannranch - 2013-12-14 8:22 PM

I won't even buy a bit with her name on it.  It was one of the worst experiences I have ever been to.  No only unorganized, hours and hours of wasted time, she was cruel.  
I'm not talking about just strong words, and corrections.  I mean just out right cruel.  She told an 11 year old girl her horse should go to bar-b-q.  Our clinic started with 20 on Friday, by Sunday they were down to 14.  Grown women who were good at what they did left and said they would never come back.  Sharon told me herself (she knew I was angry) that if it were up to her, she would never run an open clinic.  She prefers to work with advanced level barrel racers and would like to require a "qualifying" race to attend her clinics, but her sponsors would not allow anything like that. 
We were there to learn, not be insulted and made fun of.  She seemed to pick a couple of people to "attack" more than others.   Also, this was my opinion, not fact, but it seemed the people with the biggest trucks and trailers were her special friends.  If you were there in an old truck and trailer, she did not want to even pay attention to you.

The clinic coordinator profussly appologised to me multiple times.  We stayed, but I swore then I would tell anyone and everyone that ever asked exactally what happened and why I would NEVER recommend her to anyone.

I didn't even go into detail here about things that happened, but I would be glad to.

Since then have been to several, with very critical coaches and they were respectful and honest.  Not cruel and rude.

Good Luck, however I would never waste my money.  Which is what she told me I did when I asked why they told me children were welcome?  The group was about 50/50 children/adult.  One child left the others were grown women and at least 1 of them qualified for WPRA Circut finals a few years after that.  So I'm not talking about poor riders that could not handle being corrected.

I agree with this 100%. That and she isn't all she thinks she is either. She told me that a chain mouth piece was the one of the harshest mouth pieces. When I went to say it wasn't she glared at me and told me I was wrong.....after she called me fat and asked if I rode 3-D horses I was done...... I stayed but if it wasn't for friends I wouldn't have. RUDE and out dated!!
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Firewater - 2013-12-16 10:55 AM I am not sure where you are located in New Jersey- but I believe WrapNSnap is located somewhere out east - and if you could connect with him, he has a tremendous amount of knowledge to offer - maybe not a full clinic setting, but if you could ride with him for a few weekends, I bet he could offer you some very good advice. 



The hardest part about attending a clinic is 1 - the expense, 2 - the people - waiting around for other riders to do the drills and if some are beginning riders, makes for a long day and 3- the clinicians - they get tired by the end of the day and sometimes their patience wains.



I attended six Camarillo clinics and I am done with her, will never attend another one.  I now ride with colt starters/trainers, and reiners, and I have learned more from them about the very fine details - my private lessons and the money spent has put me farther ahead than attending a clinic for a weekend. 
 

Wrapnsnap is about 2 1/2 hours from me. While it would cost more in fuel to go see him (then the lesson itself) I have been considering it. I just hate to trailer all that way for only a 1 hour lesson.
 
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whohasaplan - 2013-12-16 10:31 AM
Swannranch - 2013-12-14 8:22 PM I won't even buy a bit with her name on it.  It was one of the worst experiences I have ever been to.  No only unorganized, hours and hours of wasted time, she was cruel.  

I'm not talking about just strong words, and corrections.  I mean just out right cruel.  She told an 11 year old girl her horse should go to bar-b-q.  Our clinic started with 20 on Friday, by Sunday they were down to 14.  Grown women who were good at what they did left and said they would never come back.  Sharon told me herself (she knew I was angry) that if it were up to her, she would never run an open clinic.  She prefers to work with advanced level barrel racers and would like to require a "qualifying" race to attend her clinics, but her sponsors would not allow anything like that. 

We were there to learn, not be insulted and made fun of.  She seemed to pick a couple of people to "attack" more than others.   Also, this was my opinion, not fact, but it seemed the people with the biggest trucks and trailers were her special friends.  If you were there in an old truck and trailer, she did not want to even pay attention to you.



The clinic coordinator profussly appologised to me multiple times.  We stayed, but I swore then I would tell anyone and everyone that ever asked exactally what happened and why I would NEVER recommend her to anyone.



I didn't even go into detail here about things that happened, but I would be glad to.



Since then have been to several, with very critical coaches and they were respectful and honest.  Not cruel and rude.



Good Luck, however I would never waste my money.  Which is what she told me I did when I asked why they told me children were welcome?  The group was about 50/50 children/adult.  One child left the others were grown women and at least 1 of them qualified for WPRA Circut finals a few years after that.  So I'm not talking about poor riders that could not handle being corrected.
I agree with this 100%. That and she isn't all she thinks she is either. She told me that a chain mouth piece was the one of the harshest mouth pieces. When I went to say it wasn't she glared at me and told me I was wrong.....after she called me fat and asked if I rode 3-D horses I was done...... I stayed but if it wasn't for friends I wouldn't have. RUDE and out dated!!

She is the closest I ever got to stepping off my horse and pounding her into the dirt.  If you know me you would see how ****ed I must have been.  She picked on certain people, and really made an ass out of herself often.  When I went it was Shirly that actually taught me anything.  Sharon just stood in the middle of the arena and told us all what a bunch of losers we were.   Ed Wright isn't soft and gentle either, but he has a very good training style and you dont' get the run around from him.  My favorite and first clinic was Martha Josey many many years ago.  I walked away from that clinic with a better self image and a horse that went from bland to blast during that clinic.  Another great clinic is Lyndee Stairs, but I don't know how far she will travel.  She will drill you on some pretty cool stuff, and actually ride every horse to get a feel for what is needed.  And by far the best clinic I went to was Marilyn Camarillo.  That woman can see so much in one run and give you individual tips to make your horse work better, and you ride faster.  She is one of the few that knows not all horses and riders need the same thing.  I also went to a Gayle Tyson clinic too, she has an interesting style that wouldn't work for me, but a lot of other people got a lot out of it. 

One thing I found facinating was that if you take a clinic by someone built more like you, you will have a better grasp of what you need to do.  A long legged person actually rides different than an short legged person, the balance is changed and you use your legs a bit differently.   I never hear that mentioned, but I have see it to be true. Just wanted to add that.  The other thing is some people are audio learners (Ed's clinics are best for that) and some people are visual learners (Lyndee and Marilyn are best for that.)
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 Paul Humphrey is doing a clinic in Bethany Ct at C&S Ranches and Kelly Kaminski is doing one in Terryville (Harwinton) Ct at LazyD Ranch in April. Pauls is a 3 day and expensive and Kelly's is 2 day but it could be split one day beginners and 2nd day advanced but not sure on that.
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The classic was over before the open and ran on time.
The open ran late because the computer died when they were doing the draw. Everyone there seemed to be very understanding and supportive.. especially since it was a large effort with it being the open and chapter finals combined.  One of the reasons NJ has lost so many barrel races is because people like to complain and not step up and help - the horse park is a fantastic facility and hopefully the person who put in all the effort to run this continues to do them. I know she is doing it to raise money for the horsepark - not for any kind of personal profit. 

 
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smmthbr - 2013-12-16 9:38 AM I went to a Sharon Camarillo clinic a kazillion years ago when I was in the Arabian industry and they were offering an "invitational" Arabian Barrel Race at the Nationals that year.  It was my most successful year ever at the Arab Nationals and even though I was associated with one of the top Arabian trainers in the country, my success had a lot to do with the HORSEMANSHIP skills and exercises that Sharon taught me and that I used on all three horses that I took to the Nationals.  I hauled in to her clinic with a "prissy little Arabian gelding" and she gave me and him as much respect as if I was the top WPRA barrel racer.  She is a true horseman and an intelligent lady and I would go to her clinic again.  I have gone to Ed Wright's and he reminds me a lot of her in dedication and intensity, though their training styles are very different.  You can learn from ANYONE if you decide to take advantage of their wisdom and experience and don't go looking for pats on the back.   

I was not looking for a pat on the back, just a little decency and respect from another human being.  Ed Wright wasn't exactly thrilled about the horse I took to his clinic, either, but I wasn't made to feel like I should be ashamed of myself and go stand in the corner all weekend.  I don't care who she is, she doesn't have the right to publicy ridicule people because they paid her for her opinion.  Maybe I just caught her on a bad weekend.   Sounds like you need to check the farmers almanac and see what the signs are to pick a good one. 
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