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My life working in a liberal stronghold after pot was legalized
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Posted 2013-12-27 10:23 AM
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Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2013-12-27 10:47 AM
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i'd take a pothead over an alchy any day of the week...at least potheads are pretty happy most of the time  
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barrelracr131 - 2013-12-27 10:47 AM i'd take a pothead over an alchy any day of the week...at least potheads are pretty happy most of the time  

 What is an alchy? 
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barrelracr131 - 2013-12-27 10:47 AM i'd take a pothead over an alchy any day of the week...at least potheads are pretty happy most of the time  
 What is an alchy? 

alcoholic, sry personal abbrv spelling lol 
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Posted 2013-12-27 11:01 AM
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barrelracr131 - 2013-12-27 10:47 AM i'd take a pothead over an alchy any day of the week...at least potheads are pretty happy most of the time  
 What is an alchy? 
alcoholic, sry personal abbrv spelling lol 

Haha oh!  Yeah I'd take the pothead also! 
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2013-12-27 11:01 AM
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barrelracr131 - 2013-12-27 9:47 AM i'd take a pothead over an alchy any day of the week...at least potheads are pretty happy most of the time  

Militant Liberals are very rarely happy, or on task that doesn't involve attempts at mind control.
Can you tell it's my last day? 
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Reg. May 2007
Posted 2013-12-27 1:34 PM
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barrelracr131 - 2013-12-27 9:47 AM i'd take a pothead over an alchy any day of the week...at least potheads are pretty happy most of the time  
Militant Liberals are very rarely happy, or on task that doesn't involve attempts at mind control.

Can you tell it's my last day? 

Mine too.  I was going to work through the 3rd apparently they don't want to pay me holiday pay for New Years and told me the 31st would be my last day.  Ummmm, no, I am not going to be on call Monday and take my truck back Tuesday. I am just heading out early. 
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Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2013-12-27 2:10 PM
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barrelracr131 - 2013-12-27 9:47 AM i'd take a pothead over an alchy any day of the week...at least potheads are pretty happy most of the time  

Militant Liberals are very rarely happy, or on task that doesn't involve attempts at mind control.
Can you tell it's my last day? 

so if you support the legalization of MJ your a liberal?


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Reg. Jul 2013
Posted 2013-12-27 4:23 PM
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barrelracr131 - 2013-12-27 9:47 AM i'd take a pothead over an alchy any day of the week...at least potheads are pretty happy most of the time  

Militant Liberals are very rarely happy, or on task that doesn't involve attempts at mind control.
Can you tell it's my last day? 

so if you support the legalization of MJ your a liberal?


If so call me Mr. Ried

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Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2013-12-27 4:46 PM
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The legal pot laws here are a joke and total farce. Hear me out....

1) Pot is legalized so that they can tax it and give the revenue to schools (sounds like a great idea, right? I mean, if people are going to do it... why not make income via taxing?)

2) So then what happens after the voters legalize it? They vote for a huge tax hike. Makes sense, right? I mean, after all.... we need that revenue to improve the school system. Sounds great... .in theory.

3) So then what do they do? Come up with a new law... you can grow 5 pot plants in your home legally. So say goodbye to the tax revenue for schools.

So that leaves us with the question.... who on earth needs 5 pot plants for personal consumption? Because if you need 5 pot plants... you are putting Cheech and Chong to shame. You would have to be smoking that stuff every minute of every waking hour if you use that much weed.

This state is such a libtard joke anymore. 
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musikmaker
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2013-12-27 5:03 PM
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barrelracr131 - 2013-12-27 9:47 AM i'd take a pothead over an alchy any day of the week...at least potheads are pretty happy most of the time  

Yeah....so would the government!  Lol...Idk about 'happy', but, I'd bet we can agree on agreeable!  They tend to forget things easily...
 
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Reg. Aug 2008
Posted 2013-12-30 11:18 AM
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SKM - 2013-12-27 3:46 PM The legal pot laws here are a joke and total farce. Hear me out....



1) Pot is legalized so that they can tax it and give the revenue to schools (sounds like a great idea, right? I mean, if people are going to do it... why not make income via taxing?)



2) So then what happens after the voters legalize it? They vote for a huge tax hike. Makes sense, right? I mean, after all.... we need that revenue to improve the school system. Sounds great... .in theory.



3) So then what do they do? Come up with a new law... you can grow 5 pot plants in your home legally. So say goodbye to the tax revenue for schools.



So that leaves us with the question.... who on earth needs 5 pot plants for personal consumption? Because if you need 5 pot plants... you are putting Cheech and Chong to shame. You would have to be smoking that stuff every minute of every waking hour if you use that much weed.



This state is such a libtard joke anymore. 

 The laws are such a mess, no one knows who is coming or going.  We have spent something like $600k on signs on the border of CO telling tourists you can't take your pot with you.  Pot tourism was supposed to create much of the revenue but now there is no legal place for the out of staters to smoke legally.  Most banks won't work with the business, crime will be on the way up.  Even with the medical marijuana DUIs in CO are up 2,000%, sorry I don't want to be on the road with these paranoid (happy?) people!  January 1st will be Green Wednesday, you thought Target was bad after Thanksgiving?
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Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2013-12-30 11:37 AM
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I've always wondered how they enforce DUI laws when someone is stoned. How do they prove a driver is under the influence of marijuana? THC can stay in the system for a couple weeks.
The war on drugs has been lost for years. Now we have several states where pot is legal, so they should serve as experimental labs where the effects of legalized pot can be studied. Dozens of questions can be answered and dozens of issues analyzed. We should have most of the answers within 10 years or so. The problem, as many have alluded to, is that not only people become dependent on pot....so does government. Tax revenues is tempting.......but what happens if society concludes that legalized pot is much more destructive than we anticipated? Now we have a government revenue source that we will want to eliminate. Good luck with that!
Places like Colorado, California, and Oregon should serve as vast experiments. After all, this is what they have decided on, so let them be the nation's guinea pigs. Soon we shall have some answers. It may well turn out that pot will be natures way of population control.
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musikmaker
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2013-12-30 11:47 AM
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HotbearLVR - 2013-12-30 10:37 AM I've always wondered how they enforce DUI laws when someone is stoned. How do they prove a driver is under the influence of marijuana? THC can stay in the system for a couple weeks. The war on drugs has been lost for years. Now we have several states where pot is legal, so they should serve as experimental labs where the effects of legalized pot can be studied. Dozens of questions can be answered and dozens of issues analyzed. We should have most of the answers within 10 years or so. The problem, as many have alluded to, is that not only people become dependent on pot....so does government. Tax revenues is tempting.......but what happens if society concludes that legalized pot is much more destructive than we anticipated? Now we have a government revenue source that we will want to eliminate. Good luck with that! Places like Colorado, California, and Oregon should serve as vast experiments. After all, this is what they have decided on, so let them be the nation's guinea pigs. Soon we shall have some answers. It may well turn out that pot will be natures way of population control.

I think the real problem is gov't (yes, We The People on this one) greed...I mean, who's the 'dealer' here?  Who's making money?  Lmao...
I don't know why it's not de-regulated...I don't know why suicide is illegal...IDK why we keep trying to legislate morality & behavior...could it be that we're all government issue?
I do not care what others do...but, when it starts affecting me & mine then I have every right to do something about it.  The punishment should fit the crime...yet, here we are living in a world where we're fined for what we 'might' do & the real criminals walk.  It's money.  Nothing else motivates humans like the almighty dollar.
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Posted 2013-12-30 11:54 AM
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HotbearLVR - 2013-12-30 11:37 AM I've always wondered how they enforce DUI laws when someone is stoned. How do they prove a driver is under the influence of marijuana? THC can stay in the system for a couple weeks.

Drug related DWI/DUI's are based more on impairment than what is in the system so to speak.  Most of your case is established by how that person acts, speaks and interacts during the stop.  You can bring in experts to testify that a certain amount of a drug in a person's system should be an impairment but it's not as an exact science/level as alcohol is because drugs affect everybody differently.  Given that the typical DWI driver who appears to be driving impaired is usually over twice the limit, it's kind of the same concept when you pull someone over for a drug DWI.  You don't have to have a medical degree to know when someone is stoned and shouldn't be driving.
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Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2013-12-30 12:23 PM
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HotbearLVR - 2013-12-30 11:37 AM I've always wondered how they enforce DUI laws when someone is stoned. How do they prove a driver is under the influence of marijuana? THC can stay in the system for a couple weeks.
Drug related DWI/DUI's are based more on impairment than what is in the system so to speak.  Most of your case is established by how that person acts, speaks and interacts during the stop.  You can bring in experts to testify that a certain amount of a drug in a person's system should be an impairment but it's not as an exact science/level as alcohol is because drugs affect everybody differently.  Given that the typical DWI driver who appears to be driving impaired is usually over twice the limit, it's kind of the same concept when you pull someone over for a drug DWI.  You don't have to have a medical degree to know when someone is stoned and shouldn't be driving.

 I can't pass a field sobriety test stone cold sober due to medical issues.  Then what?
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Posted 2013-12-30 12:32 PM
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HotbearLVR - 2013-12-30 11:37 AM I've always wondered how they enforce DUI laws when someone is stoned. How do they prove a driver is under the influence of marijuana? THC can stay in the system for a couple weeks.
Drug related DWI/DUI's are based more on impairment than what is in the system so to speak.  Most of your case is established by how that person acts, speaks and interacts during the stop.  You can bring in experts to testify that a certain amount of a drug in a person's system should be an impairment but it's not as an exact science/level as alcohol is because drugs affect everybody differently.  Given that the typical DWI driver who appears to be driving impaired is usually over twice the limit, it's kind of the same concept when you pull someone over for a drug DWI.  You don't have to have a medical degree to know when someone is stoned and shouldn't be driving.
 I can't pass a field sobriety test stone cold sober due to medical issues.  Then what?

It's not just one clue on those tests that they look at or one test in specific so I'd say you'd be okay unless you were high on drugs or drinking.  The things that a prosecutor looks for in those tests are not always what everybody thinks.  They are designed to do certain things to show impairment.  Basically it comes down to not driving if you are taking medication that does effect you to a certain level where it's obvious that you shouldn't be behind the wheel.    
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Posted 2013-12-30 12:51 PM
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Red Raider - 2013-12-30 11:54 AM
HotbearLVR - 2013-12-30 11:37 AM I've always wondered how they enforce DUI laws when someone is stoned. How do they prove a driver is under the influence of marijuana? THC can stay in the system for a couple weeks.
Drug related DWI/DUI's are based more on impairment than what is in the system so to speak.  Most of your case is established by how that person acts, speaks and interacts during the stop.  You can bring in experts to testify that a certain amount of a drug in a person's system should be an impairment but it's not as an exact science/level as alcohol is because drugs affect everybody differently.  Given that the typical DWI driver who appears to be driving impaired is usually over twice the limit, it's kind of the same concept when you pull someone over for a drug DWI.  You don't have to have a medical degree to know when someone is stoned and shouldn't be driving.
 I can't pass a field sobriety test stone cold sober due to medical issues.  Then what?
It's not just one clue on those tests that they look at or one test in specific so I'd say you'd be okay unless you were high on drugs or drinking.  The things that a prosecutor looks for in those tests are not always what everybody thinks.  They are designed to do certain things to show impairment.  Basically it comes down to not driving if you are taking medication that does effect you to a certain level where it's obvious that you shouldn't be behind the wheel.    

 My issues are balance related due to a surgically removed balance nerve. I do ok if I can see, but in low light or eyes closed, I appear drunk if I'm on my feet. I also get tongue tied sometimes from lingering brain damage. My brain functions fine, it just doesn't always communicate properly. LOL. Add that to my temper when someone is being an ass, and being falsely accused is a worry that stays in the back of my mind. 
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Posted 2013-12-30 12:57 PM
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Red Raider - 2013-12-30 11:54 AM
HotbearLVR - 2013-12-30 11:37 AM I've always wondered how they enforce DUI laws when someone is stoned. How do they prove a driver is under the influence of marijuana? THC can stay in the system for a couple weeks.
Drug related DWI/DUI's are based more on impairment than what is in the system so to speak.  Most of your case is established by how that person acts, speaks and interacts during the stop.  You can bring in experts to testify that a certain amount of a drug in a person's system should be an impairment but it's not as an exact science/level as alcohol is because drugs affect everybody differently.  Given that the typical DWI driver who appears to be driving impaired is usually over twice the limit, it's kind of the same concept when you pull someone over for a drug DWI.  You don't have to have a medical degree to know when someone is stoned and shouldn't be driving.
 I can't pass a field sobriety test stone cold sober due to medical issues.  Then what?
It's not just one clue on those tests that they look at or one test in specific so I'd say you'd be okay unless you were high on drugs or drinking.  The things that a prosecutor looks for in those tests are not always what everybody thinks.  They are designed to do certain things to show impairment.  Basically it comes down to not driving if you are taking medication that does effect you to a certain level where it's obvious that you shouldn't be behind the wheel.    
 My issues are balance related due to a surgically removed balance nerve. I do ok if I can see, but in low light or eyes closed, I appear drunk if I'm on my feet. I also get tongue tied sometimes from lingering brain damage. My brain functions fine, it just doesn't always communicate properly. LOL. Add that to my temper when someone is being an ass, and being falsely accused is a worry that stays in the back of my mind. 

A lot of people have balance problems so I wouldn't be too worried.  Honestly, a good look into your eyes and doing a standard test related to that pretty much tells the story to any officer correctly trained, be it drugs or alcohol.  The rest that is asked of you to do is more for the jury to see how impaired you were than anything really.  Once you've been trained to see those eye changes and movements, you'll know it when you see it on pretty much 99% of the population. 
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Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2013-12-30 1:09 PM
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The thing about stoned people is.......they go about 15 MPH!! So......you can spot them easy...... How many times have you heard of someone high on Pot beating their wife? Not often.....unless it is for the last hoho. I would rather see pot legalized then drunks driving. JMO
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Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2013-12-30 7:12 PM
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Red Raider - 2013-12-30 11:54 AM
HotbearLVR - 2013-12-30 11:37 AM I've always wondered how they enforce DUI laws when someone is stoned. How do they prove a driver is under the influence of marijuana? THC can stay in the system for a couple weeks.
Drug related DWI/DUI's are based more on impairment than what is in the system so to speak.  Most of your case is established by how that person acts, speaks and interacts during the stop.  You can bring in experts to testify that a certain amount of a drug in a person's system should be an impairment but it's not as an exact science/level as alcohol is because drugs affect everybody differently.  Given that the typical DWI driver who appears to be driving impaired is usually over twice the limit, it's kind of the same concept when you pull someone over for a drug DWI.  You don't have to have a medical degree to know when someone is stoned and shouldn't be driving.
 I can't pass a field sobriety test stone cold sober due to medical issues.  Then what?
It's not just one clue on those tests that they look at or one test in specific so I'd say you'd be okay unless you were high on drugs or drinking.  The things that a prosecutor looks for in those tests are not always what everybody thinks.  They are designed to do certain things to show impairment.  Basically it comes down to not driving if you are taking medication that does effect you to a certain level where it's obvious that you shouldn't be behind the wheel.    
 My issues are balance related due to a surgically removed balance nerve. I do ok if I can see, but in low light or eyes closed, I appear drunk if I'm on my feet. I also get tongue tied sometimes from lingering brain damage. My brain functions fine, it just doesn't always communicate properly. LOL. Add that to my temper when someone is being an ass, and being falsely accused is a worry that stays in the back of my mind. 
A lot of people have balance problems so I wouldn't be too worried.  Honestly, a good look into your eyes and doing a standard test related to that pretty much tells the story to any officer correctly trained, be it drugs or alcohol.  The rest that is asked of you to do is more for the jury to see how impaired you were than anything really.  Once you've been trained to see those eye changes and movements, you'll know it when you see it on pretty much 99% of the population. 
Based on what you 'might' do...NOT on a crime.  So...you own a gun...you 'might' shoot someone!!! This is scary ground we tread.  Nevermind...we already gave up the mountain.  When they made speeding against the law, driving under the influence (including while tired)...we lost our stronghold.  I'm pretty sure that if the punishment fit the crime it would fix most issues...say, someone is driving 60 in a residentual area...fine...kill or hurt someone you get the same.  Eye for an eye.
NO revenue involved...well, um...that's why it won't work, everyone's on the 'take'.   We don't want to fix the problem we just want to make a buck!  Take that one to Heaven!


Edited by musikmaker 2013-12-30 7:14 PM
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