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Location: ND | Truck Driver - 2013-12-27 3:12 PM I can't believe there is any question about men barrel racing or pole bending. In our area, Indiana, Kentucy, Illionis, there are many men doing this. In fact in our area, there are several AQHA, NBHA, IBRA, NPBA champions and most are men.
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Location: Oregon | In my area There is 95% girls racing ... at least the ones i go to... lol |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | They are definately in the minority around here. |
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Location: OK | What's the deal. I worked most of my life in a "Man's World", I did the job as well as the men, just maybe went about it a bit different. So what if the guys are a little stronger they also usually weigh more and I sure won't admit they can ride any better than we women. In Oklahoma there are still more female than male barrel racers at the local shows but for the most part the males are well accepted. |
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Location: NC | CYA Ranch - 2013-12-27 5:13 PM
They are definately in the minority around here.
Maybe as riders. They sure top the charts as trainers though. Check out who trained (& even bred) most of the top horses in the world, including the NFR. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | hlynn - 2013-12-27 4:37 PM CYA Ranch - 2013-12-27 5:13 PM They are definately in the minority around here. Maybe as riders. They sure top the charts as trainers though. Check out who trained (& even bred ) most of the top horses in the world, including the NFR.
The question was about men running barrels and poles so that is why I answered they are in the minority "around here" which is in South Dakota. Nothing was said about trainers and breeders - that wasn't what the OP was questioning. I thought she wanted to know about how many men there were running in different parts of the country. My bad |
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| I am from southern calif and there are about 15 guys to run to every 100 women. But everyone is accepted no problems. I did go to a few races in WY once and it did NOT go oververy well. Cat calls and homophobic comments from the Audience. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | We have a few here that can kick butt and take names....  |
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Location: North Dakota | They're definitely a minority anywhere I've lived! And the ones that do run usually aren't a competitive threat in the least because they're dads/ husbands/ boyfriends that somehow ended up running and have no horsemanship skills. |
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Location: Phoenix | Where I grew up, the men rope or ride broncs, and the girls run barrels or breakaway rope. Boys only do barrels/poles in Jr. Rodeo. There's maybe a handful of men who barrel race in the PNW. |
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Location: Florida.. | cavyrunsbarrels - 2013-12-27 8:11 PM They're definitely a minority anywhere I've lived! And the ones that do run usually aren't a competitive threat in the least because they're dads/ husbands/ boyfriends that somehow ended up running and have no horsemanship skills. are you freaking kidding me? i saw your other post on other men barrel racing thread ...it was bad enough..serouisly?????? SMH
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | cavyrunsbarrels - 2013-12-27 7:11 PM They're definitely a minority anywhere I've lived! And the ones that do run usually aren't a competitive threat in the least because they're dads/ husbands/ boyfriends that somehow ended up running and have no horsemanship skills.
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Location: Ky | A lot of men barrel racers in North and South Carolina. Some in there 70's that have been riding and running all their lives.
Edit to say...They(men) are also very competitive here!!!
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I agree.....I had to laugh as much at this one as the "other" one who made the "blanket" statement that the MEN dominate the sport....... |
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Male jockeys/trainers dominate the NBHA world.
Look it up.
Who have been the past few NBHA world champions? Are they male or female?
Talmadge, Brett, Kebo, Pete, Lance, Adam, Add, Jamie, Ducky, the Chouest boy, Steve, Heath, etc.
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Location: Northern California | hlynn - 2013-12-27 5:51 PM
Male jockeys/trainers dominate the NBHA world.
Look it up.
Who have been the past few NBHA world champions? Are they male or female?
Talmadge, Brett, Kebo, Pete, Lance, Adam, Add, Jamie, Ducky, the Chouest boy, Steve, Heath, etc.
Read & COMPREHEND before you respond. Just saying.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | hlynn - 2013-12-27 5:51 PM Male jockeys/trainers dominate the NBHA world. Look it up. Who have been the past few NBHA world champions? Are they male or female? Talmadge, Brett, Kebo, Pete, Lance, Adam, Add, Jamie, Ducky, the Chouest boy, Steve, Heath, etc. Read & COMPREHEND before you respond. Just saying.
~~1993 – 2009 https://www.nbha.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42:nbha-world-champions&catid=16&Itemid=204
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http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2010/October/NBHA-World-Results/open%20finals%20results.pdf
2011 http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2011/October/NBHAWorldChamp/nbha%20world%20open%20final%20results.pdf 2012 http://nbharesults.com/index.php/view-all-past-results/13-2012-nbha-world-show 2013 http://nbharesults.com/index.php/28-2013-nbha-world-show/198-2013-nbha-world-show-open-final-results Really? Before you stick your foot any further in your mouth perhaps you had better go back and read the statistcs from the NBHA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS.....because you are WRONG ! ! ! ! ! I will be waiting (breathlessly) for your apology.........LOL
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Location: NC | NJJ - 2013-12-27 9:58 PM
hlynn - 2013-12-27 5:51 PM Male jockeys/trainers dominate the NBHA world. Look it up. Who have been the past few NBHA world champions? Are they male or female? Talmadge, Brett, Kebo, Pete, Lance, Adam, Add, Jamie, Ducky, the Chouest boy, Steve, Heath, etc. Read & COMPREHEND before you respond. Just saying. ~~1993 – 2009 https://www.nbha.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42:nbha-world-champions&catid=16&Itemid=204
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http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2010/October/NBHA-World-Results/open%20finals%20results.pdf
2011 http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2011/October/NBHAWorldChamp/nbha%20world%20open%20final%20results.pdf 2012 http://nbharesults.com/index.php/view-all-past-results/13-2012-nbha-world-show 2013 http://nbharesults.com/index.php/28-2013-nbha-world-show/198-2013-nbha-world-show-open-final-results Really? Before you stick your foot any further in your mouth perhaps you had better go back and read the statistcs from the NBHA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS.....because you are WRONG ! ! ! ! ! I will be waiting (breathlessly) for your apology.........LOL
How does that not show that men are up there with the best in the world in NBHA? Just look at how many men have won championships in each division since NBHA started!! Especially in the Senior class. That's a lot of guys. And quite a few have won championships.
I put on a benefit barrel race in my state. I had more males competing than females. Most males took home prizes & checks.
We had a 3 day show in November with over 300 entries. In the 2D shootout, 8 of the 13 in the 1D were male. In the 2D that night, 4 of the top 5 were male. In the Open, 10 out of the top 18 riders were male. The fastest time of the weekend was made by a male. On Sunday, 10 of the 18 in the 1D were male.
Want the link to the results so you can see for yourself? Just ask WrapSnap. He was there. I'm sure he'll tell you the same thing.
HERE in NC, in NBHA world, men are a DOMINANT force in EVERY division. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | hlynn - 2013-12-27 9:11 PM NJJ - 2013-12-27 9:58 PM hlynn - 2013-12-27 5:51 PM Male jockeys/trainers dominate the NBHA world. Look it up. Who have been the past few NBHA world champions? Are they male or female? Talmadge, Brett, Kebo, Pete, Lance, Adam, Add, Jamie, Ducky, the Chouest boy, Steve, Heath, etc. Read & COMPREHEND before you respond. Just saying. ~~1993 – 2009
https://www.nbha.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42:nbha-world-champions&catid=16&Itemid=204
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http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2010/October/NBHA-World-Results/open%20finals%20results.pdf
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http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2011/October/NBHAWorldChamp/nbha%20world%20open%20final%20results.pdf
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http://nbharesults.com/index.php/view-all-past-results/13-2012-nbha-world-show
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http://nbharesults.com/index.php/28-2013-nbha-world-show/198-2013-nbha-world-show-open-final-results
Really? Before you stick your foot any further in your mouth perhaps you had better go back and read the statistcs from the NBHA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS.....because you are WRONG ! ! ! ! ! I will be waiting (breathlessly) for your apology.........LOL
How does that not show that men are up there with the best in the world in NBHA? Just look at how many men have won championships in each division since NBHA started!! Especially in the Senior class. That's a lot of guys. And quite a few have won championships. I put on a benefit barrel race in my state. I had more males competing than females. Most males took home prizes & checks. We had a 3 day show in November with over 300 entries. In the 2D shootout, 8 of the 13 in the 1D were male. In the 2D that night, 4 of the top 5 were male. In the Open, 10 out of the top 18 riders were male. The fastest time of the weekend was made by a male. On Sunday, 10 of the 18 in the 1D were male. Want the link to the results so you can see for yourself? Just ask WrapSnap. He was there. I'm sure he'll tell you the same thing. HERE in NC, in NBHA world, men are a DOMINANT force in EVERY division.
You really DO have a problem admitting that you are WRONG, don't you?
You really don't want me to go back and COUNT the number of men versus women who won "Championships" (see YOUR questions above) do you?  |
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Location: NC | NJJ - 2013-12-27 10:18 PM hlynn - 2013-12-27 9:11 PM NJJ - 2013-12-27 9:58 PM hlynn - 2013-12-27 5:51 PM Male jockeys/trainers dominate the NBHA world. Look it up. Who have been the past few NBHA world champions? Are they male or female? Talmadge, Brett, Kebo, Pete, Lance, Adam, Add, Jamie, Ducky, the Chouest boy, Steve, Heath, etc. Read & COMPREHEND before you respond. Just saying. ~~1993 – 2009
https://www.nbha.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42:nbha-world-champions&catid=16&Itemid=204
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http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2010/October/NBHA-World-Results/open%20finals%20results.pdf
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http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2011/October/NBHAWorldChamp/nbha%20world%20open%20final%20results.pdf
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http://nbharesults.com/index.php/view-all-past-results/13-2012-nbha-world-show
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http://nbharesults.com/index.php/28-2013-nbha-world-show/198-2013-nbha-world-show-open-final-results
Really? Before you stick your foot any further in your mouth perhaps you had better go back and read the statistcs from the NBHA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS.....because you are WRONG ! ! ! ! ! I will be waiting (breathlessly) for your apology.........LOL
How does that not show that men are up there with the best in the world in NBHA? Just look at how many men have won championships in each division since NBHA started!! Especially in the Senior class. That's a lot of guys. And quite a few have won championships. I put on a benefit barrel race in my state. I had more males competing than females. Most males took home prizes & checks. We had a 3 day show in November with over 300 entries. In the 2D shootout, 8 of the 13 in the 1D were male. In the 2D that night, 4 of the top 5 were male. In the Open, 10 out of the top 18 riders were male. The fastest time of the weekend was made by a male. On Sunday, 10 of the 18 in the 1D were male. Want the link to the results so you can see for yourself? Just ask WrapSnap. He was there. I'm sure he'll tell you the same thing. HERE in NC, in NBHA world, men are a DOMINANT force in EVERY division.
You really don't want me to go back and COUNT the number of men versus women who won "Championships" (see YOUR questions above) do you?
Past four champions: one female, three males. (With a whole lot of males rounding out the top 5 or so in the 1D....)
"Few" usually means three or so, a small number.
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| As one from Indiana, I'm used to seeing equal men and women competing. Not a question, it's just normal for here. It confuses me too when I see it questioned. |
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Location: Florida.. | hlynn - 2013-12-27 10:11 PM NJJ - 2013-12-27 9:58 PM hlynn - 2013-12-27 5:51 PM Male jockeys/trainers dominate the NBHA world. Look it up. Who have been the past few NBHA world champions? Are they male or female? Talmadge, Brett, Kebo, Pete, Lance, Adam, Add, Jamie, Ducky, the Chouest boy, Steve, Heath, etc. Read & COMPREHEND before you respond. Just saying. ~~1993 – 2009
https://www.nbha.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42:nbha-world-champions&catid=16&Itemid=204
2010
http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2010/October/NBHA-World-Results/open%20finals%20results.pdf
2011
http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2011/October/NBHAWorldChamp/nbha%20world%20open%20final%20results.pdf
2012
http://nbharesults.com/index.php/view-all-past-results/13-2012-nbha-world-show
2013
http://nbharesults.com/index.php/28-2013-nbha-world-show/198-2013-nbha-world-show-open-final-results
Really? Before you stick your foot any further in your mouth perhaps you had better go back and read the statistcs from the NBHA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS.....because you are WRONG ! ! ! ! ! I will be waiting (breathlessly) for your apology.........LOL
How does that not show that men are up there with the best in the world in NBHA? Just look at how many men have won championships in each division since NBHA started!! Especially in the Senior class. That's a lot of guys. And quite a few have won championships. I put on a benefit barrel race in my state. I had more males competing than females. Most males took home prizes & checks. We had a 3 day show in November with over 300 entries. In the 2D shootout, 8 of the 13 in the 1D were male. In the 2D that night, 4 of the top 5 were male. In the Open, 10 out of the top 18 riders were male. The fastest time of the weekend was made by a male. On Sunday, 10 of the 18 in the 1D were male. Want the link to the results so you can see for yourself? Just ask WrapSnap. He was there. I'm sure he'll tell you the same thing. HERE in NC, in NBHA world, men are a DOMINANT force in EVERY division.
I saw the album online for that small benefit show that the owner put on with your help and your hubbys.. it was really nice to do I am sure a blessing and thoughtful .. but it isnt the same.. as a nbha show or other bigger events so i wouldnt think it would count in the grand scheme of things but i may be wrong... |
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Location: NC | Bibliafarm - 2013-12-27 10:35 PM
hlynn - 2013-12-27 10:11 PM NJJ - 2013-12-27 9:58 PM hlynn - 2013-12-27 5:51 PM Male jockeys/trainers dominate the NBHA world. Look it up. Who have been the past few NBHA world champions? Are they male or female? Talmadge, Brett, Kebo, Pete, Lance, Adam, Add, Jamie, Ducky, the Chouest boy, Steve, Heath, etc. Read & COMPREHEND before you respond. Just saying. ~~1993 – 2009
https://www.nbha.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42:nbha-world-champions&catid=16&Itemid=204
2010
http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2010/October/NBHA-World-Results/open%20finals%20results.pdf
2011
http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2011/October/NBHAWorldChamp/nbha%20world%20open%20final%20results.pdf
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http://nbharesults.com/index.php/view-all-past-results/13-2012-nbha-world-show
2013
http://nbharesults.com/index.php/28-2013-nbha-world-show/198-2013-nbha-world-show-open-final-results
Really? Before you stick your foot any further in your mouth perhaps you had better go back and read the statistcs from the NBHA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS.....because you are WRONG ! ! ! ! ! I will be waiting (breathlessly) for your apology.........LOL
How does that not show that men are up there with the best in the world in NBHA? Just look at how many men have won championships in each division since NBHA started!! Especially in the Senior class. That's a lot of guys. And quite a few have won championships. I put on a benefit barrel race in my state. I had more males competing than females. Most males took home prizes & checks. We had a 3 day show in November with over 300 entries. In the 2D shootout, 8 of the 13 in the 1D were male. In the 2D that night, 4 of the top 5 were male. In the Open, 10 out of the top 18 riders were male. The fastest time of the weekend was made by a male. On Sunday, 10 of the 18 in the 1D were male. Want the link to the results so you can see for yourself? Just ask WrapSnap. He was there. I'm sure he'll tell you the same thing. HERE in NC, in NBHA world, men are a DOMINANT force in EVERY division.
I don't know what album you're talking about. There wasn't an owner or whatever you mean by that. I produced the show, I rented the arena, I announced, we had a crew to set barrels, & we had a caterer to run the concessions. There's a small album of candids on Facebook. That's it.
And we had 61 entries, which wasn't too bad considering the date. It was smaller than a normal show, but everyone there was an NBHA member. It was a smaller 02/04 show really.
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Location: MD | I must say, this is all highly entertaining to me. I don't know that I would ever say that either gender dominates anywhere. I will say this, on the East Coast, there are a ton of men who compete whom you never want to count out. There are definitely areas around me where there are a number of guys who you expect to see at the top of the results sheets. There are certainly enough men running at the top of the biggest NBHA shows to make a person say that the men have been known to set the bar, at times. If you look up Equi Stat reports as far as earnings, you will see that men are amongst the highest money earners for Futurity and Aged events. Just looking at the links that NJJ provided, in the first 15 years of NBHA World Shows, six Open 1D World titles were won by men. The NBHA Senior World Championships have indeed, been predominantly awarded to male riders.
Personally, I could care either way. I have been to different areas all over the country and competed. There have been times when I am the only guy running at a barrel race. There have also been times where people have commented about the fact that I was running. Even here on the East Coast, just this past weekend, I ran at a jackpot that was part of a Bulls and Barrels. It was that first time that they had opened it up to be an open jackpot, rather than a traditional "females only" thing. In the video of my run, you here someone say "Why the Heck is a GUY running in this?!". The way I see it is this, we all show up, we all pay our EF's and at the end of the day that's all I care about. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | What is the objective of this thread? I often go to jackpots where I am one of 2-3 men running. I'm used to it. I'd love to see more men and I've had my ass kicked by 8 yr old boys and girls, so the way I see it, what difference does it make? If someone thinks I'm a sissy because I like to barrel race, they are the ones with the problem, not me. All winter last year I ran at the NDSU barrel series and I was the only man......64 women/girls....and one fat balding old man. There were a lot of men watching, and I bet you a lot of them wished they could have done what I was doing.
Bob Manor is about 78 yrs old, and he is always at the top wherever he enters. You would be hard pressed to find a better rider than Bob. Do you want proof? Look him up on YouTube and watch him run a 19 second pole pattern on a stud, or watch him kid everyone's ass in barrels. His runs are so consistent he's boring. The man is like a robot.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | hlynn - 2013-12-27 9:25 PM
"Few" usually means three or so, a small number.
I guess that works for you IF you don't consider any of the other "D" champions.........Nobody is saying that men aren't winners but to make the "blanket statment" that they DOMINATE the barrel racing world is ludicrous....and actually, rather disparaging towards the HUNDREDS of women trainers, etc that have been and still ARE winners in big races! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bibliafarm - 2013-12-27 9:35 PM hlynn - 2013-12-27 10:11 PM NJJ - 2013-12-27 9:58 PM hlynn - 2013-12-27 5:51 PM Male jockeys/trainers dominate the NBHA world. Look it up. Who have been the past few NBHA world champions? Are they male or female? Talmadge, Brett, Kebo, Pete, Lance, Adam, Add, Jamie, Ducky, the Chouest boy, Steve, Heath, etc. Read & COMPREHEND before you respond. Just saying. ~~1993 – 2009
https://www.nbha.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42:nbha-world-champions&catid=16&Itemid=204
2010
http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2010/October/NBHA-World-Results/open%20finals%20results.pdf
2011
http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2011/October/NBHAWorldChamp/nbha%20world%20open%20final%20results.pdf
2012
http://nbharesults.com/index.php/view-all-past-results/13-2012-nbha-world-show
2013
http://nbharesults.com/index.php/28-2013-nbha-world-show/198-2013-nbha-world-show-open-final-results
Really? Before you stick your foot any further in your mouth perhaps you had better go back and read the statistcs from the NBHA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS.....because you are WRONG ! ! ! ! ! I will be waiting (breathlessly) for your apology.........LOL
How does that not show that men are up there with the best in the world in NBHA? Just look at how many men have won championships in each division since NBHA started!! Especially in the Senior class. That's a lot of guys. And quite a few have won championships. I put on a benefit barrel race in my state. I had more males competing than females. Most males took home prizes & checks. We had a 3 day show in November with over 300 entries. In the 2D shootout, 8 of the 13 in the 1D were male. In the 2D that night, 4 of the top 5 were male. In the Open, 10 out of the top 18 riders were male. The fastest time of the weekend was made by a male. On Sunday, 10 of the 18 in the 1D were male. Want the link to the results so you can see for yourself? Just ask WrapSnap. He was there. I'm sure he'll tell you the same thing. HERE in NC, in NBHA world, men are a DOMINANT force in EVERY division.
Wow the men really do kick the womens butt in your part of the country thats cool that the men are better at barrel racer then the girls.  Here in Texas we got really really tough women.  |
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Location: NC | NJJ - 2013-12-27 10:50 PM
hlynn - 2013-12-27 9:25 PM Past four champions: one female, three males. (With a whole lot of males rounding out the top 5 or so in the 1D.... )
"Few" usually means three or so, a small number.
I guess that works for you IF you don't consider any of the other "D" champions.........Nobody is saying that men aren't winners but to make the "blanket statment" that they DOMINATE the barrel racing world is ludicrous....and actually, rather disparaging towards the HUNDREDS of women trainers, etc that have been and still ARE winners in big races!
Ugh. You are taking my words out of context. (Which isn't the first time that you've sought me out to prove me wrong).
In NBHA land, men are a BIG force. Period. We have plenty of guys around here, and most are pretty dang good hands.
We also have plenty of ladies that are good. We have a pair of sisters that are some of the best I've ever seen, that easily rival some of the top hands in the country in my book.
All I'm saying is, that on the east coast, there are plenty of guys at the top of the ranks. And there's a whole lot more up there come futurity time.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | WrapSnap - 2013-12-27 9:47 PM I must say, this is all highly entertaining to me. I don't know that I would ever say that either gender dominates anywhere. I will say this, on the East Coast, there are a ton of men who compete whom you never want to count out. There are definitely areas around me where there are a number of guys who you expect to see at the top of the results sheets. There are certainly enough men running at the top of the biggest NBHA shows to make a person say that the men have been known to set the bar, at times. If you look up Equi Stat reports as far as earnings, you will see that men are amongst the highest money earners for Futurity and Aged events. Just looking at the links that NJJ provided, in the first 15 years of NBHA World Shows, six Open 1D World titles were won by men. The NBHA Senior World Championships have indeed, been predominantly awarded to male riders. Personally, I could care either way. I have been to different areas all over the country and competed. There have been times when I am the only guy running at a barrel race. There have also been times where people have commented about the fact that I was running. Even here on the East Coast, just this past weekend, I ran at a jackpot that was part of a Bulls and Barrels. It was that first time that they had opened it up to be an open jackpot, rather than a traditional "females only" thing. In the video of my run, you here someone say "Why the Heck is a GUY running in this?!". The way I see it is this, we all show up, we all pay our EF's and at the end of the day that's all I care about.
You can ride here in Texas Andy and you wont hear anybody making a dumb statement about why a man is running barrels, we have plenty of men that enjoy running barrels as much as the women here.  |
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Location: MD | Southtxponygirl - 2013-12-27 9:51 PM
Bibliafarm - 2013-12-27 9:35 PM hlynn - 2013-12-27 10:11 PM NJJ - 2013-12-27 9:58 PM hlynn - 2013-12-27 5:51 PM Male jockeys/trainers dominate the NBHA world. Look it up. Who have been the past few NBHA world champions? Are they male or female? Talmadge, Brett, Kebo, Pete, Lance, Adam, Add, Jamie, Ducky, the Chouest boy, Steve, Heath, etc. Read & COMPREHEND before you respond. Just saying. ~~1993 – 2009
https://www.nbha.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42:nbha-world-champions&catid=16&Itemid=204
2010
http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2010/October/NBHA-World-Results/open%20finals%20results.pdf
2011
http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2011/October/NBHAWorldChamp/nbha%20world%20open%20final%20results.pdf
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http://nbharesults.com/index.php/view-all-past-results/13-2012-nbha-world-show
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http://nbharesults.com/index.php/28-2013-nbha-world-show/198-2013-nbha-world-show-open-final-results
Really? Before you stick your foot any further in your mouth perhaps you had better go back and read the statistcs from the NBHA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS.....because you are WRONG ! ! ! ! ! I will be waiting (breathlessly) for your apology.........LOL
How does that not show that men are up there with the best in the world in NBHA? Just look at how many men have won championships in each division since NBHA started!! Especially in the Senior class. That's a lot of guys. And quite a few have won championships. I put on a benefit barrel race in my state. I had more males competing than females. Most males took home prizes & checks. We had a 3 day show in November with over 300 entries. In the 2D shootout, 8 of the 13 in the 1D were male. In the 2D that night, 4 of the top 5 were male. In the Open, 10 out of the top 18 riders were male. The fastest time of the weekend was made by a male. On Sunday, 10 of the 18 in the 1D were male. Want the link to the results so you can see for yourself? Just ask WrapSnap. He was there. I'm sure he'll tell you the same thing. HERE in NC, in NBHA world, men are a DOMINANT force in EVERY division.
To be fair, the men who kick butt in this area and the horses that they do it on, have been known to go just about anywhere in the U.S. and Canada and hold their own there too. |
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A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | Southtxponygirl - 2013-12-27 10:51 PM
Bibliafarm - 2013-12-27 9:35 PM hlynn - 2013-12-27 10:11 PM NJJ - 2013-12-27 9:58 PM hlynn - 2013-12-27 5:51 PM Male jockeys/trainers dominate the NBHA world. Look it up. Who have been the past few NBHA world champions? Are they male or female? Talmadge, Brett, Kebo, Pete, Lance, Adam, Add, Jamie, Ducky, the Chouest boy, Steve, Heath, etc. Read & COMPREHEND before you respond. Just saying. ~~1993 – 2009
https://www.nbha.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=42:nbha-world-champions&catid=16&Itemid=204
2010
http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2010/October/NBHA-World-Results/open%20finals%20results.pdf
2011
http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/images/stories/shows/2011/October/NBHAWorldChamp/nbha%20world%20open%20final%20results.pdf
2012
http://nbharesults.com/index.php/view-all-past-results/13-2012-nbha-world-show
2013
http://nbharesults.com/index.php/28-2013-nbha-world-show/198-2013-nbha-world-show-open-final-results
Really? Before you stick your foot any further in your mouth perhaps you had better go back and read the statistcs from the NBHA WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS.....because you are WRONG ! ! ! ! ! I will be waiting (breathlessly) for your apology.........LOL
How does that not show that men are up there with the best in the world in NBHA? Just look at how many men have won championships in each division since NBHA started!! Especially in the Senior class. That's a lot of guys. And quite a few have won championships. I put on a benefit barrel race in my state. I had more males competing than females. Most males took home prizes & checks. We had a 3 day show in November with over 300 entries. In the 2D shootout, 8 of the 13 in the 1D were male. In the 2D that night, 4 of the top 5 were male. In the Open, 10 out of the top 18 riders were male. The fastest time of the weekend was made by a male. On Sunday, 10 of the 18 in the 1D were male. Want the link to the results so you can see for yourself? Just ask WrapSnap. He was there. I'm sure he'll tell you the same thing. HERE in NC, in NBHA world, men are a DOMINANT force in EVERY division.
We just have a lot of guys who compete. And quite a few showed up to that barrel show. In that area, there are quite a few men who barrel race, and quite a few that are very successful at it.
We have a lot of tough ladies, don't get me wrong. Some of the best around here are female trainers & riders. But you can never count out the guys. |
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| Everybody gravitates to our area, partly because of Josey's. (NE TX) Several times there have been men who have come from IL and are wearing jackets that say MEN'S BARREL RACING ASSN. I would say that there are probably more than a handful of them. They are pretty tough.
There are quite a few guys that live around here that win pretty consistently. I have friends that come here from Canada that are guys and they win pretty consistently too. So here you have guys that come from many areas that end up in E TX and win consistently. By the way, some are husbands. Some are boyfriends and a few are dads.
There are also the Sullivan kid and the Wheeler kid that are bad to the bone.
If you ride where the men do not really know anything you need to get out of your backyard. Go somewhere, open your eyes and see who is taking home the cash. |
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Location: Virginia | Gotta come to HLynn's defense here because men are a big force in NBHA and in the futurity world. Someone posted the NBHA World Champions and said that it proved that men are not a force, but of 21 1D Champions, 11 were women and 10 were men... pretty even for the top rider, especially considering how dominant Hotshot was so the Steinhoff girls account for several of the championships. From Barrel Horse News 9/13 issue on 10 year statistics: 6 of the top 8 Leading Riders over the past 10 years are men with Troy Crumrine being the #1 money earner. These statistics include WPRA and NFR earnings. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Why is it so hard for some to grasp that there are regional and cultural differences? There are even training differences based on which gender is the majority in an area and what kind of pens and dirt you run on.
Based on my husband's limited experience at barrel races, he probably thinks that most men running barrels are gay. It doesn't make it true. It doesn't make him a bad person. It just makes him a person who hasn't had a lot of experience outside a certain type local events. In other words, he's ignorant. No shame in that--he's not horsey and doesn't care. |
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A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | Three 4 Luck - 2013-12-28 10:34 AM
Why is it so hard for some to grasp that there are regional and cultural differences? There are even training differences based on which gender is the majority in an area and what kind of pens and dirt you run on.
Based on my husband's limited experience at barrel races, he probably thinks that most men running barrels are gay. It doesn't make it true. It doesn't make him a bad person. It just makes him a person who hasn't had a lot of experience outside a certain type local events. In other words, he's ignorant. No shame in that--he's not horsey and doesn't care.
That's why I keep saying 'here in NBHA land'.
I know it's different out west, at least as far as guys running. There are male trainers all over the country. Add moved from SC to OK. He's closer to his rodeo clients now. |
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| So, how do we get more men into barrel racing? Shouldn't that be our goal here? |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | MO gal - 2013-12-28 9:56 AM So, how do we get more men into barrel racing? Shouldn't that be our goal here?
I figure the ones that really want to are doing it. |
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Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | ok what about women ropers?? a few close friends of mine are hellonheels ropers! and can play with the big boys..I think if others single out men barrel racers I wonder if the ropers single out women ropers ? i mean really.. |
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Location: NC | Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:38 AM
ok what about women ropers?? a few close friends of mine are hellonheels ropers! and can play with the big boys..I think if others single out men barrel racers I wonder if the ropers single out women ropers ? i mean really..
There are plenty of female ropers. Breakaway especially. And plenty of good team ropers. We have a lot in our area who rope. I obviously never thought of men vs women in barrels OR roping.
A barrel racer is a barrel racer. A roper is a roper. Doesn't matter what gender they are. To me anyways.
Rodeo is the only sexist (or "traditional") organization out there. All the other barrel racing & roping associations allow both genders to compete equally.
Maybe we need to banish the gender barrier in rodeo!!! DOWN WITH RODEO! After all, that's where guys (& ladies) get it in their heads that guys rope/ride roughstock & girls chase cans, isn't it?
(This wasn't being serious. But seriously, think about it. Rodeo is where these stereotypes come from) |
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Location: Florida.. | hlynn - 2013-12-28 11:51 AM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:38 AM ok what about women ropers?? a few close friends of mine are hellonheels ropers! and can play with the big boys..I think if others single out men barrel racers I wonder if the ropers single out women ropers ? i mean really.. There are plenty of female ropers. Breakaway especially. And plenty of good team ropers. We have a lot in our area who rope. I obviously never thought of men vs women in barrels OR roping. A barrel racer is a barrel racer. A roper is a roper. Doesn't matter what gender they are. To me anyways. Rodeo is the only sexist (or "traditional" ) organization out there. All the other barrel racing & roping associations allow both genders to compete equally. Maybe we need to banish the gender barrier in rodeo!!! DOWN WITH RODEO! After all, that's where guys (& ladies ) get it in their heads that guys rope/ride roughstock & girls chase cans, isn't it? (This wasn't being serious. But seriously, think about it. Rodeo is where these stereotypes come from ) 
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Location: PA | Now who started a thread about male barrel racing, on a womens' forum 
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Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | Zepridesitright - 2013-12-28 12:05 PM Now who started a thread about male barrel racing, on a womens' forum
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Location: PA | Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 12:06 PM Zepridesitright - 2013-12-28 12:05 PM Now who started a thread about male barrel racing, on a womens' forum
Please tell me you're being sarcastic |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Zepridesitright - 2013-12-28 11:10 AM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 12:06 PM Zepridesitright - 2013-12-28 12:05 PM Now who started a thread about male barrel racing, on a womens' forum
Uhhh....nooooo...........since when is BHW a "women's" Forum? Please don't tell that to Wrap, Doc, Komet, DD, etc etc etc .....you might give them a "complex"...... |
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| Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:06 AM
Zepridesitright - 2013-12-28 12:05 PM Now who started a thread about male barrel racing, on a womens' forum
Ya since when!!!! |
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A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:57 AM hlynn - 2013-12-28 11:51 AM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:38 AM ok what about women ropers?? a few close friends of mine are hellonheels ropers! and can play with the big boys..I think if others single out men barrel racers I wonder if the ropers single out women ropers ? i mean really.. There are plenty of female ropers. Breakaway especially. And plenty of good team ropers. We have a lot in our area who rope. I obviously never thought of men vs women in barrels OR roping. A barrel racer is a barrel racer. A roper is a roper. Doesn't matter what gender they are. To me anyways. Rodeo is the only sexist (or "traditional" ) organization out there. All the other barrel racing & roping associations allow both genders to compete equally. Maybe we need to banish the gender barrier in rodeo!!! DOWN WITH RODEO! After all, that's where guys (& ladies ) get it in their heads that guys rope/ride roughstock & girls chase cans, isn't it? (This wasn't being serious. But seriously, think about it. Rodeo is where these stereotypes come from )
Again. Read for compehension........
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Location: Florida.. | Zepridesitright - 2013-12-28 12:10 PM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 12:06 PM Zepridesitright - 2013-12-28 12:05 PM Now who started a thread about male barrel racing, on a womens' forum
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Location: PA | Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 12:13 PM Zepridesitright - 2013-12-28 12:10 PM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 12:06 PM Zepridesitright - 2013-12-28 12:05 PM Now who started a thread about male barrel racing, on a womens' forum
There are way more women here than men, is what I meant! Obviously it's not a No Men Allowed forum. |
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Location: Florida.. | hlynn - 2013-12-28 12:13 PM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:57 AM hlynn - 2013-12-28 11:51 AM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:38 AM ok what about women ropers?? a few close friends of mine are hellonheels ropers! and can play with the big boys..I think if others single out men barrel racers I wonder if the ropers single out women ropers ? i mean really.. There are plenty of female ropers. Breakaway especially. And plenty of good team ropers. We have a lot in our area who rope. I obviously never thought of men vs women in barrels OR roping. A barrel racer is a barrel racer. A roper is a roper. Doesn't matter what gender they are. To me anyways. Rodeo is the only sexist (or "traditional" ) organization out there. All the other barrel racing & roping associations allow both genders to compete equally. Maybe we need to banish the gender barrier in rodeo!!! DOWN WITH RODEO! After all, that's where guys (& ladies ) get it in their heads that guys rope/ride roughstock & girls chase cans, isn't it? (This wasn't being serious. But seriously, think about it. Rodeo is where these stereotypes come from ) Again. Read for compehension........
again heather you are confused.. my point is................ |
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A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 12:17 PM
hlynn - 2013-12-28 12:13 PM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:57 AM hlynn - 2013-12-28 11:51 AM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:38 AM ok what about women ropers?? a few close friends of mine are hellonheels ropers! and can play with the big boys..I think if others single out men barrel racers I wonder if the ropers single out women ropers ? i mean really.. There are plenty of female ropers. Breakaway especially. And plenty of good team ropers. We have a lot in our area who rope. I obviously never thought of men vs women in barrels OR roping. A barrel racer is a barrel racer. A roper is a roper. Doesn't matter what gender they are. To me anyways. Rodeo is the only sexist (or "traditional" ) organization out there. All the other barrel racing & roping associations allow both genders to compete equally. Maybe we need to banish the gender barrier in rodeo!!! DOWN WITH RODEO! After all, that's where guys (& ladies ) get it in their heads that guys rope/ride roughstock & girls chase cans, isn't it? (This wasn't being serious. But seriously, think about it. Rodeo is where these stereotypes come from ) Again. Read for compehension........
I'm not confused.
And no one has made it "a big deal".
I stated what I know in MY area, & NJJ showed up on her high horse looking to twist my words & prove me wrong (like usual) & I just defended my opinion & observations.
And then you do the same thing (as usual) & so I have to try to explain to both brick walls what I meant.
What is there to be confused about? |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Zepridesitright - 2013-12-28 11:16 AM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 12:13 PM Zepridesitright - 2013-12-28 12:10 PM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 12:06 PM Zepridesitright - 2013-12-28 12:05 PM Now who started a thread about male barrel racing, on a womens' forum There are way more women here than men, is what I meant! Obviously it's not a No Men Allowed forum.
LOL......heck....ask Hlynn....MEN dominate the barrel racing world.......so perhaps the owners should change the name to MEN's BarrelHorse World........problem solved? |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | hlynn - 2013-12-28 11:20 AM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 12:17 PM hlynn - 2013-12-28 12:13 PM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:57 AM hlynn - 2013-12-28 11:51 AM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:38 AM ok what about women ropers?? a few close friends of mine are hellonheels ropers! and can play with the big boys..I think if others single out men barrel racers I wonder if the ropers single out women ropers ? i mean really.. There are plenty of female ropers. Breakaway especially. And plenty of good team ropers. We have a lot in our area who rope. I obviously never thought of men vs women in barrels OR roping. A barrel racer is a barrel racer. A roper is a roper. Doesn't matter what gender they are. To me anyways. Rodeo is the only sexist (or "traditional" ) organization out there. All the other barrel racing & roping associations allow both genders to compete equally. Maybe we need to banish the gender barrier in rodeo!!! DOWN WITH RODEO! After all, that's where guys (& ladies ) get it in their heads that guys rope/ride roughstock & girls chase cans, isn't it? (This wasn't being serious. But seriously, think about it. Rodeo is where these stereotypes come from ) Again. Read for compehension........ I'm not confused. And no one has made it "a big deal". I stated what I know in MY area, & NJJ showed up on her high horse looking to twist my words & prove me wrong (like usual ) & I just defended my opinion & observations. And then you do the same thing (as usual ) & so I have to try to explain to both brick walls what I meant. What is there to be confused about?
eta: My horse is only 15 hands....
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A Lady with Fight
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Location: NC | NJJ - 2013-12-28 12:21 PM
Zepridesitright - 2013-12-28 11:16 AM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 12:13 PM Zepridesitright - 2013-12-28 12:10 PM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 12:06 PM Zepridesitright - 2013-12-28 12:05 PM Now who started a thread about male barrel racing, on a womens' forum There are way more women here than men, is what I meant! Obviously it's not a No Men Allowed forum.
You really can't read, can you?
Men are beginning to dominate the NBHA & futurity world. Just like I said. And there are plenty of GREAT male trainers out there training for everyone, even those rodeo gals.
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Location: NC | NJJ - 2013-12-28 12:21 PM
hlynn - 2013-12-28 11:20 AM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 12:17 PM hlynn - 2013-12-28 12:13 PM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:57 AM hlynn - 2013-12-28 11:51 AM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:38 AM ok what about women ropers?? a few close friends of mine are hellonheels ropers! and can play with the big boys..I think if others single out men barrel racers I wonder if the ropers single out women ropers ? i mean really.. There are plenty of female ropers. Breakaway especially. And plenty of good team ropers. We have a lot in our area who rope. I obviously never thought of men vs women in barrels OR roping. A barrel racer is a barrel racer. A roper is a roper. Doesn't matter what gender they are. To me anyways. Rodeo is the only sexist (or "traditional" ) organization out there. All the other barrel racing & roping associations allow both genders to compete equally. Maybe we need to banish the gender barrier in rodeo!!! DOWN WITH RODEO! After all, that's where guys (& ladies ) get it in their heads that guys rope/ride roughstock & girls chase cans, isn't it? (This wasn't being serious. But seriously, think about it. Rodeo is where these stereotypes come from ) Again. Read for compehension........ I'm not confused. And no one has made it "a big deal". I stated what I know in MY area, & NJJ showed up on her high horse looking to twist my words & prove me wrong (like usual ) & I just defended my opinion & observations. And then you do the same thing (as usual ) & so I have to try to explain to both brick walls what I meant. What is there to be confused about?
eta: My horse is only 15 hands....
You're such a brick wall. Seriously.
Why would I need a pity party for myself? Because you obviously have NO life but to come on here JUST to bash other people & call names?
Naw. I'm good. Thanks tho.
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Location: Florida.. | hlynn - 2013-12-28 12:20 PM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 12:17 PM hlynn - 2013-12-28 12:13 PM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:57 AM hlynn - 2013-12-28 11:51 AM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:38 AM ok what about women ropers?? a few close friends of mine are hellonheels ropers! and can play with the big boys..I think if others single out men barrel racers I wonder if the ropers single out women ropers ? i mean really.. There are plenty of female ropers. Breakaway especially. And plenty of good team ropers. We have a lot in our area who rope. I obviously never thought of men vs women in barrels OR roping. A barrel racer is a barrel racer. A roper is a roper. Doesn't matter what gender they are. To me anyways. Rodeo is the only sexist (or "traditional" ) organization out there. All the other barrel racing & roping associations allow both genders to compete equally. Maybe we need to banish the gender barrier in rodeo!!! DOWN WITH RODEO! After all, that's where guys (& ladies ) get it in their heads that guys rope/ride roughstock & girls chase cans, isn't it? (This wasn't being serious. But seriously, think about it. Rodeo is where these stereotypes come from ) Again. Read for compehension........ I'm not confused. And no one has made it "a big deal". I stated what I know in MY area, & NJJ showed up on her high horse looking to twist my words & prove me wrong (like usual ) & I just defended my opinion & observations. And then you do the same thing (as usual ) & so I have to try to explain to both brick walls what I meant. What is there to be confused about?
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | hlynn - 2013-12-28 11:24 AM NJJ - 2013-12-28 12:21 PM hlynn - 2013-12-28 11:20 AM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 12:17 PM hlynn - 2013-12-28 12:13 PM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:57 AM hlynn - 2013-12-28 11:51 AM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:38 AM ok what about women ropers?? a few close friends of mine are hellonheels ropers! and can play with the big boys..I think if others single out men barrel racers I wonder if the ropers single out women ropers ? i mean really.. There are plenty of female ropers. Breakaway especially. And plenty of good team ropers. We have a lot in our area who rope. I obviously never thought of men vs women in barrels OR roping. A barrel racer is a barrel racer. A roper is a roper. Doesn't matter what gender they are. To me anyways. Rodeo is the only sexist (or "traditional" ) organization out there. All the other barrel racing & roping associations allow both genders to compete equally. Maybe we need to banish the gender barrier in rodeo!!! DOWN WITH RODEO! After all, that's where guys (& ladies ) get it in their heads that guys rope/ride roughstock & girls chase cans, isn't it? (This wasn't being serious. But seriously, think about it. Rodeo is where these stereotypes come from ) Again. Read for compehension........
I'm not confused. And no one has made it "a big deal". I stated what I know in MY area, & NJJ showed up on her high horse looking to twist my words & prove me wrong (like usual ) & I just defended my opinion & observations. And then you do the same thing (as usual ) & so I have to try to explain to both brick walls what I meant. What is there to be confused about?
eta: My horse is only 15 hands.... You're such a brick wall. Seriously. Why would I need a pity party for myself? Because you obviously have NO life but to come on here JUST to bash other people & call names? Naw. I'm good. Thanks tho.
And, as usual...you are "immune" from the name calling and bashing.........mirror, mirror......on the wall....whose the ????? of all? |
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Location: NC | So. About this thread........
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Location: NC | NJJ - 2013-12-28 12:28 PM
hlynn - 2013-12-28 11:24 AM NJJ - 2013-12-28 12:21 PM hlynn - 2013-12-28 11:20 AM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 12:17 PM hlynn - 2013-12-28 12:13 PM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:57 AM hlynn - 2013-12-28 11:51 AM Bibliafarm - 2013-12-28 11:38 AM ok what about women ropers?? a few close friends of mine are hellonheels ropers! and can play with the big boys..I think if others single out men barrel racers I wonder if the ropers single out women ropers ? i mean really.. There are plenty of female ropers. Breakaway especially. And plenty of good team ropers. We have a lot in our area who rope. I obviously never thought of men vs women in barrels OR roping. A barrel racer is a barrel racer. A roper is a roper. Doesn't matter what gender they are. To me anyways. Rodeo is the only sexist (or "traditional" ) organization out there. All the other barrel racing & roping associations allow both genders to compete equally. Maybe we need to banish the gender barrier in rodeo!!! DOWN WITH RODEO! After all, that's where guys (& ladies ) get it in their heads that guys rope/ride roughstock & girls chase cans, isn't it? (This wasn't being serious. But seriously, think about it. Rodeo is where these stereotypes come from ) Again. Read for compehension........
I'm not confused. And no one has made it "a big deal". I stated what I know in MY area, & NJJ showed up on her high horse looking to twist my words & prove me wrong (like usual ) & I just defended my opinion & observations. And then you do the same thing (as usual ) & so I have to try to explain to both brick walls what I meant. What is there to be confused about?
eta: My horse is only 15 hands.... You're such a brick wall. Seriously. Why would I need a pity party for myself? Because you obviously have NO life but to come on here JUST to bash other people & call names? Naw. I'm good. Thanks tho.
I actually make posts on threads that don't just bash other people. You, on the other hand, come on here JUST to spread your carp around. |
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| DD2012 - 2013-12-28 12:45 PM
It hurts my heart to see people fight
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Just Plain Lucky - 2013-12-28 11:46 AM DD2012 - 2013-12-28 12:45 PM It hurts my heart to see people fight LIAR!!!
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | jbhoot - 2013-12-28 11:39 AM Ok Ladys enough!!! Personal attacks add nothing to the discussion.
You are correct as usual..........I apologize to hlynn for trying to educate her and give her statistics (and for the ONE name that I called her....and arrogant snit)......my bad! |
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | We have a lot of men that kick butt around where i live. |
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | Kcaughran - 2013-12-28 11:59 AM
We have a lot of men that kick butt around where i live.
Chuck Tolbert 5 time senior world nbha champion, Ross carnahan barrels and pole bending, Trevor Pruitt congress winner youth world..just to name a few of them. |
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Here in the Georgia, it's a common occurance for a guy to win the barrel race. We run against Brett & Blake Monroe, Talmadge Green, Carl Wise, Kenny & Jamie Hodges, Craig Brooks....just to name a few. All of these men have won national titles. I think its ridiculous that people still have an issue with male barrel racers. This is modern barrel racing and guys are not only allowed, but they are dominating. |
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Location: NC | Runninbay - 2013-12-28 1:17 PM
Here in the Georgia, it's a common occurance for a guy to win the barrel race. We run against Brett & Blake Monroe, Talmadge Green, Carl Wise, Kenny & Jamie Hodges, Craig Brooks....just to name a few. All of these men have won national titles. I think its ridiculous that people still have an issue with male barrel racers. This is modern barrel racing and guys are not only allowed, but they are dominating.
This is what I mean by dominate. They win. And place. A LOT.
The last 3 NBHA world champions are men!
They're becoming more & more common. At the top of the world!!
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Location: Georgia | hlynn - 2013-12-28 1:31 PM Runninbay - 2013-12-28 1:17 PM
Here in the Georgia, it's a common occurance for a guy to win the barrel race. We run against Brett & Blake Monroe, Talmadge Green, Carl Wise, Kenny & Jamie Hodges, Craig Brooks....just to name a few. All of these men have won national titles. I think its ridiculous that people still have an issue with male barrel racers. This is modern barrel racing and guys are not only allowed, but they are dominating. This is what I mean by dominate. They win. And place. A LOT. The last 3 NBHA world champions are men! They're becoming more & more common. At the top of the world!!
Yep I agree 100%! They are winning.
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Location: Virginia | its payday - 2013-12-28 10:12 AM Gotta come to HLynn's defense here because men are a big force in NBHA and in the futurity world. Someone posted the NBHA World Champions and said that it proved that men are not a force, but of 21 1D Champions, 11 were women and 10 were men... pretty even for the top rider, especially considering how dominant Hotshot was so the Steinhoff girls account for several of the championships. From Barrel Horse News 9/13 issue on 10 year statistics: 6 of the top 8 Leading Riders over the past 10 years are men with Troy Crumrine being the #1 money earner. These statistics include WPRA and NFR earnings.
From Barrel Horse News 9/13 issue on 10 year statistics: 6 of the top 8 leading riders over last 10 year period are men with Troy Crumrine being the #1 money earner. These statistics include WPRA and NFR earnings.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | hlynn - 2013-12-28 11:31 AM So. About this thread........ People always ruin everything.
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Location: Washington | I have lived in many area's and traveled a lot competing in our sport. No dening that men hold their own in the barrel arena. When words like "dominate" are used that is when you need to take your blinkers off. Women made the sport, and let's never forget that and they also win on all levels. There is not a true competitor out there that doesn't welcome all into the game.....but there is nothing wrong with some traditions.
With what is taking place with more and more rodeo's becoming invitationals there is a huge chance we will see men. But never forget that too is a double edge sword.
I am watching closely what Vegas is doing to position themselves for an invitational venue, if needed. I think they are watching what will take place in Arlington,Tx. with The American and how it is received. Changes for sure are heading our way.
Women have and will continue to be a driving force in barrel racing. Pretty sure men don't have a problem with that.
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Location: oklahoma | NJJ - 2013-12-28 11:52 AM jbhoot - 2013-12-28 11:39 AM Ok Ladys enough!!! Personal attacks add nothing to the discussion. You are correct as usual..........I apologize to hlynn for trying to educate her and give her statistics (and for the ONE name that I called her....and arrogant snit)......my bad!
Reading comprehension! She said ' Ladies'
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| CurlyQ - 2013-12-28 5:45 PM
NJJ - 2013-12-28 11:52 AM jbhoot - 2013-12-28 11:39 AM Ok Ladys enough!!! Personal attacks add nothing to the discussion. You are correct as usual..........I apologize to hlynn for trying to educate her and give her statistics (and for the ONE name that I called her....and arrogant snit)......my bad!
I am a Guy.....not a she....Thank you. |
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Location: oklahoma | jbhoot - 2013-12-28 7:01 PM CurlyQ - 2013-12-28 5:45 PM NJJ - 2013-12-28 11:52 AM jbhoot - 2013-12-28 11:39 AM Ok Ladys enough!!! Personal attacks add nothing to the discussion. You are correct as usual..........I apologize to hlynn for trying to educate her and give her statistics (and for the ONE name that I called her....and arrogant snit)......my bad! I am a Guy.....not a she....Thank you.
Aww lighten up. It was aimed at Njj. This place needs an enema. |
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| CurlyQ - 2013-12-28 7:10 PM
jbhoot - 2013-12-28 7:01 PM CurlyQ - 2013-12-28 5:45 PM NJJ - 2013-12-28 11:52 AM jbhoot - 2013-12-28 11:39 AM Ok Ladys enough!!! Personal attacks add nothing to the discussion. You are correct as usual..........I apologize to hlynn for trying to educate her and give her statistics (and for the ONE name that I called her....and arrogant snit)......my bad! I am a Guy.....not a she....Thank you.
I wasn't being up tight just correcting you....carry on. |
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Location: oklahoma | jbhoot - 2013-12-28 7:16 PM CurlyQ - 2013-12-28 7:10 PM jbhoot - 2013-12-28 7:01 PM CurlyQ - 2013-12-28 5:45 PM NJJ - 2013-12-28 11:52 AM jbhoot - 2013-12-28 11:39 AM Ok Ladys enough!!! Personal attacks add nothing to the discussion. You are correct as usual..........I apologize to hlynn for trying to educate her and give her statistics (and for the ONE name that I called her....and arrogant snit)......my bad! I am a Guy.....not a she....Thank you. I wasn't being up tight just correcting you....carry on.
Ok, apologies to you. Duly noted :) |
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| HotbearLVR - 2013-12-27 9:47 PM
What is the objective of this thread? I often go to jackpots where I am one of 2-3 men running. I'm used to it. I'd love to see more men and I've had my ass kicked by 8 yr old boys and girls, so the way I see it, what difference does it make? If someone thinks I'm a sissy because I like to barrel race, they are the ones with the problem, not me. All winter last year I ran at the NDSU barrel series and I was the only man......64 women/girls....and one fat balding old man. There were a lot of men watching, and I bet you a lot of them wished they could have done what I was doing.
Bob Manor is about 78 yrs old, and he is always at the top wherever he enters. You would be hard pressed to find a better rider than Bob. Do you want proof? Look him up on YouTube and watch him run a 19 second pole pattern on a stud, or watch him kid everyone's ass in barrels. His runs are so consistent he's boring. The man is like a robot.
Well said! Bob Manor kicks butt - had the opportunity to run against him at a series here in WI and he knocked the socks off everyone. One cool guy. |
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Location: Florida.. | . I asked that pages ago. Stupid thread |
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Location: Dubach, LA | I guess the only fair thing to do is to weigh the jockeys. After all, it's a race. Weight counts way more than gender. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | CurlyQ - 2013-12-28 7:10 PM jbhoot - 2013-12-28 7:01 PM CurlyQ - 2013-12-28 5:45 PM NJJ - 2013-12-28 11:52 AM jbhoot - 2013-12-28 11:39 AM Ok Ladys enough!!! Personal attacks add nothing to the discussion. You are correct as usual..........I apologize to hlynn for trying to educate her and give her statistics (and for the ONE name that I called her....and arrogant snit)......my bad! I am a Guy.....not a she....Thank you.
And your point is????? Do you have one or are you just trying to stir the pot of sh*t ???? |
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Location: oklahoma | NJJ - 2013-12-28 7:56 PM CurlyQ - 2013-12-28 7:10 PM jbhoot - 2013-12-28 7:01 PM CurlyQ - 2013-12-28 5:45 PM NJJ - 2013-12-28 11:52 AM jbhoot - 2013-12-28 11:39 AM Ok Ladys enough!!! Personal attacks add nothing to the discussion. You are correct as usual..........I apologize to hlynn for trying to educate her and give her statistics (and for the ONE name that I called her....and arrogant snit)......my bad! I am a Guy.....not a she....Thank you.
It started as a joke towards you. I didn't know he was a guy, there's not too many of them on here, I've been here a long time. Nope, don't have an enema but I'll mail you one. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | CurlyQ - 2013-12-28 8:03 PM NJJ - 2013-12-28 7:56 PM CurlyQ - 2013-12-28 7:10 PM jbhoot - 2013-12-28 7:01 PM CurlyQ - 2013-12-28 5:45 PM NJJ - 2013-12-28 11:52 AM jbhoot - 2013-12-28 11:39 AM Ok Ladys enough!!! Personal attacks add nothing to the discussion. You are correct as usual..........I apologize to hlynn for trying to educate her and give her statistics (and for the ONE name that I called her....and arrogant snit)......my bad! I am a Guy.....not a she....Thank you.
Well, you had better duck when you start giving those enemas......quite a few are really full of "it"........... |
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Location: oklahoma | NJJ - 2013-12-28 8:06 PM CurlyQ - 2013-12-28 8:03 PM NJJ - 2013-12-28 7:56 PM CurlyQ - 2013-12-28 7:10 PM jbhoot - 2013-12-28 7:01 PM CurlyQ - 2013-12-28 5:45 PM NJJ - 2013-12-28 11:52 AM jbhoot - 2013-12-28 11:39 AM Ok Ladys enough!!! Personal attacks add nothing to the discussion. You are correct as usual..........I apologize to hlynn for trying to educate her and give her statistics (and for the ONE name that I called her....and arrogant snit)......my bad! I am a Guy.....not a she....Thank you.
I'll go to SAMs and buy the case. Luckily, I don't have that problem, my attempt at humor is off but my 'habits' aren't.
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