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My Heelers are Heroes
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| For several reasons I decided to sell my 19 year old youth friendly horse. He's sound, healthy and has so much to give a kid. I have him priced at what I'd be willing to pay for a horse his age even though his knowledge is worth so much more.
First people show up with no trailer but bring their expert with them. Horse works perfect until expert gets on and she doesn't know how to cue a horse so he just kindof stands there not knowing what to do. But over all he rode good. They call back 2 days later and want to come back and set a day. They never show back up.
Second people show up with no trailer and also bring a expert. I had explained we'd need to go to the town arena as it is super muddy here. Not a problem except for the mud here which involves me getting my trailer out since they did not bring one (which tells me they are not a buyer) but the hardest part is getting my trailer back in when I get home. Plus, this cost me gas.
He rides even better for this little girl and their expert rode better than the first one. I really liked these people until Mom says they think it is good for girl to go around and get on different horses and they'd like to come ride him again. I told her I'd be happy to show him to a buyer but I didn't have time to just let people ride hm for free.
Third person has the gall to want me to bring him to them and they live out of state. Who does that?
Even though I don't need him and he's going to waste I'm ready to pull his shoes and just tell anyone else that he's not forsale or don't bother coming if your not bringing a trailer and money.
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 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I don't put up with any crap.
I've never put an ad up for a horse that I wanted to sell.
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My Heelers are Heroes
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| He's not advertised. These 3 people came from word of mouth.
I can't send PMs but can recieve them. Send me your email or number I can text to.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Not bringing a trailer doesn't equal tire kickers. I RARELY take a trailer to look at a horse. The first 2 potential buyers are just part of it. And I would want to try a youth horse multiple times in different places and circumstances. The third one was ridiculous. |
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Location: Georgia |
Well, I understand your frustration but ill be the first to tell you I wont bring a trailer with me when im looking at horse to buy. Why? Because sellers lie. Im not wasting diesel to drag my trailer up the road when the horse could be junk. If I decide I want the horse, then i'll bring my trailer at that point. Also, why would you even allow the potential buyers to come out when your house was unfit to ride at. Im sorry, but i'm not going to allow people to come to my house to ride a horse when its too muddy. They can wait for a better day.
Not bashing because I know its hard selling horses. Just pointing out a few things.
Good luck! Hopefully you get better potential buyers.
Edited by Runninbay 2013-12-28 1:01 PM
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 Miss Laundry Misshap
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| I didn't bring a trailer when I bought my last horse. I did put a down payment on him before I left the guys house though.
To take him out of state is simply ridiculous. No chance I'd do that! |
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The Advice Guru
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| I don't bring my trailer when trying out a horse. If I am selling if my barrel patch is not safe, I will haul my horse to an agreed upon place. As the horse is my responsibility till money changes hands, what happens if the horse gets injured or killed while they are hauling him.
As a horse owner I also want to make sure the horse fits the rider. I want the new owners to be his forever home, I try and get info on the prospective buyers. I have also told buyers that said horse is not for them.
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Location: Texas | I don't take a trailer when I try a horse. The last horse, my dad and I drove a couple of hours away in his girlfriend's little car. I decided I wanted the horse, and my husband brought the truck and trailer to pick her up. There have been quite a few times I didn't take the truck and trailer and was glad I didn't waste all the money on diesel to look at a horse that wasn't as advertised.
Just because I don't bring a trailer doesn't mean I am not serious. It is usually things like going to look at a kid horse and the horse bucks the seller off before I even step foot on him. I'm sure they thought I was a "tire kicker" but the horse just wasn't what I was looking for. |
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I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I understand cinch's comment about a trailer since the horse was word of mouth, most people probably already know what the horse is and trying him is not seeing what he is but seeing whether the youth can get along with him or not. |
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Location: Canada | I wouldn't say they're a tire kicker because they didn't bring a trailer. I will go look at local horses without a trailer simply because if the horse isn't what I'm looking for it costs more in fuel and time to hook up my trailer and haul it there. If the horse is more then an hour or two away then it's worth it for me to risk hauling the trailer then going back and getting trailer later if the horse is what I want.
I'd suggest advertising the horse by putting together a comprehensive ad including everything about the horse. The basics (including age, height, breeding, etc) the personality trait, the history (shows placings and medical and farrier) and of course videos this will help eliminate many of the questions you may get and will help prospective buyers make more informed decisions before contacting you.
If prospective buyers want you to haul the horse to an arena discuss this before hand and decide on the cost for fuel. If they decide to buy the horse later you can refund the fuel cost if you please but it should help weed out the tire kickers who just want to ride your horse.
Don't be upset that you have to haul the horse somewhere. Remember this is still your horse. What if you load up the horse and the trailer is unsafe, or the driver causes an accident that injures the horse, or it doesn't work out and now you have the awkward drive home with them.
If they bring a trainer suggest that the trainer ride before the clients. I often look for horses for my clients and I always ask the owner to ride, then I get on, then my client gets on. I'm not talking an hour of riding but I want to try the horse before my clients get on to see if I think it will fit them. I put them through their paces and if I think it's a fit they ride it, if I have concerns we discuss before they get on. This also gives you a chance to watch the trainer/coach ride.
When people call to set up an appointment ask questions and interview them. You can flush out a lot of people by finding out what their history is, what they want the horse for, their needs and wants. If you are selling a solid 2D horse and they want something that will be 1D eventually you know your horse won't fit what they need.
No matter how hard you try you may still get someone who is intentionally is wasting your time (just wants to ride with no intention of buying, or no intention of spending the money you have the horse listed at) but that's what happens when you sell horses. Don't let that one person ruin it for the right buyer who will come along.
Good luck.
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Location: left field | If I'm going to bother someone enough to go try their horse, I'm taking a trailer and buying the horse ONLY as long as the horse is what they said it is. I'm not going to waste my time and someone elses if I'm not seriously going to write a check that day and take the horse home. If I'm just sort of interested, I'll tell them so and if it works out for me to meet them somewhere and not inconvenience them. I think its rude to ask someone to try their horse, use their time and money and then pass on the horse if it did everything they advertised. Once I had someone ask me to haul a horse to an arena 2 hours away, she showed up with no trailer, rode my horse, he worked great, her husband rode him, they both loved him and then she offered me half my asking price. I was mad, loaded up my horse, paid the rental on the arena and left. Now that's a rude buyer. |
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 The Bird Lady
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Location: The end of the Earth, SE AR | In situation #1 I have learned to get their cell number and explain to them that I had committments later that day and would need to be called if they were running late. Then when they didn't show up on time, I would call them. If they didn't show up or return my call after 30 minutes from our meeting time I'd write them off and go do some thing else. And lock the gate to the barn.
In situation#2, I would have explained on the phone that the ground was bad at my place and suggested that they bring a trailer if they wanted to ride somewhere other than the mud or if they seemed truly interested in the horse and if it sounded like them hauling a trailer was a problem, I would have arranged to get my trailer out and been ready to haul the horse to local arena and written it off as part of the cost of selling a horse. You really can't expect someone to buy a horse if they can't ride it on halfway decent ground. I can also see that after their girl tries other horses she would want to come back and try yours again. However I would not allow it to become a 2 hour trail ride. I would arrange for a time for her to come ride, hopefully, your ground had dried out and I would explain I had to leave a X time due to prior committments so they only had 1/2 hour to ride or whatever time period you feel is fair.
As for #3, I would have laughted into the phone for about 5 minutes and told them that was the funniest joke I had heard all month.
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Location: Prosser, WA | Do people really expect the first person to come try your horse out to buy it? I very seldom take my trailer the first time. I like to go home and think it over. If the horse sales in that time I guess it wasn't meant to be. |
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Meanest Teacher!!!
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Location: sunny california | Maybe you should get someone else to sell the horse for you |
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| Like others have said, I don't bring a trailer the first time we look at one. When shopping for kids it is about if they fit too. We always try at the house then ask to run at a show. Horses can be totally different in the arena. Our next step is a vet check-that is when we take the trailer.
As far as them bringing the trailer to haul I wouldn't let anyone else haul my horse till bought and paid for.
A few years ago we traveled 6 hours to try a horse. Thought we wanted it and asked the seller to meet us at a race. It was a 3 hour drive, daughter decided she didn't want the horse so we gave the seller $$ for her fuel. |
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| I'm new to this board so hello everyone! :)) I find it a bit offensive that saying if you don't bring a trailer the first time you look at a horse you're a "tire kicker..." I have been out of the game for a few years due to kids, school, ect but I have bought and sold my share of horses in the past. I'm getting ready to get back in the game so I have been looking. I have never brought a trailer the first time period. Even when I have looked at associates horses. Sellers BS sometimes just as much as tire kickers.  |
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  Texas Lone Star
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Location: where ever my L/Q trl is parked | I only take a trailer with me if it's more than 3/4 hours away and with the info I get over the phone.
I have one mare I've been trying to sale for a long time, sound anyone can ride rope horse.... now she is in foal and due May.... I only had 2 people inquire and both never showed up after setting up a time and date.
Hate selling horses, but this spring she'll go up again and then if she doesn't sale guess the auction will be getting her. |
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Fire Ant Peddler
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| The last two that I bought off the internet, I had paid for before traveling to get them. I would not go look at a horse without taking the trailer. Several years ago some people drove about 4 hours to look at a horse a friend had. The showed up with their trailer. They also had their "expert", who rode English, with them. Obviously she knew nothing about a barrel horse but she said there was not point in her riding as the girl was going to ride the horse. Well, the horse threw the girl because her saddle had a back girth and the horse wasn't used to it. We took the back girth off and the horse rode like a dream. I got on the horse and ran her through the pattern. She made me look good. The parents and the expert discussed the situation and bought the horse. I should have bought that horse myself. Around here we look at no trailer, not sale. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Depends on what the horse is and how much it's priced. If it's a $20K rodeo horse I'm going to put up with more crap than usual. If the buyers are spending a lot of money, I expect them to take their time and want to ride the horse more than once and possibly in different places. That's pretty much a given. If it's a youth horse, I want to make sure it's a fit, so I will allow a couple of different tries in different arenas, but I always haul there and meet them. I won't go a long ways, but we have lots of local arenas I can meet them at. If it's a horse that I have on "fire sale", and I know it's already cheap for what it is, I don't put up with ANY crap. I tell them, here he is; he's cheap for what he's priced and if you don't want him, I have 4 more waiting that do (or however many are waiting). Most of the time, those kind sell pretty quickly so I DON'T have to take any crap. I am always willing to meet someone somewhere if the fuel is paid for and I will deliver if they've already paid for the horse and pay my fuel. |
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Location: MT | I don't remember the last time I took a trailer to go look at a horse (except to an auction sale). Sometimes I have left the seller with money down and gone back to pick the horse up. Sometimes I left the seller and horse and went home to think about it, and then sent the money if I decided to take the horse. Of course other times the horse wasn't what was advertised and I didn't buy the horse at all.
As far as selling my horse, I have met buyers at arenas that were fairly close to my place if riding conditions were not good at my place, or to allow them to see the horse away from home. I definitely haul the horse to that arena as the horse is my responsibility. I am willing to give a potential buyer some time. I want them to be happy with the horse if they buy it.
Hauling a horse out of state for a potential buyer is BS... I would never consider asking a seller to do that. If I am serious about their horse, I go look. I have traveled long distances without a trailer to go look, purchased the horse, and then gone back with a trailer to get it.
And my most recent adventure is to purchase a horse on the other side of the country based on many photos, multiple videos, about 500 questions answered by the seller, and have a transport company ship her. She will be here in about a week. I pray the seller was fairly honest and she is half as nice as she appears to be.  If the seller had not been willing to put up with my constant questions and devote some time to providing me with photos, videos, and information, I would not have bought the horse. |
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Accident Prone
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | awest - 2013-12-28 3:29 PM If I'm going to bother someone enough to go try their horse, I'm taking a trailer and buying the horse ONLY as long as the horse is what they said it is. I'm not going to waste my time and someone elses if I'm not seriously going to write a check that day and take the horse home. If I'm just sort of interested, I'll tell them so and if it works out for me to meet them somewhere and not inconvenience them. I think its rude to ask someone to try their horse, use their time and money and then pass on the horse if it did everything they advertised. Once I had someone ask me to haul a horse to an arena 2 hours away, she showed up with no trailer, rode my horse, he worked great, her husband rode him, they both loved him and then she offered me half my asking price. I was mad, loaded up my horse, paid the rental on the arena and left. Now that's a rude buyer.
What about someone who flies in to look at your horse? Kinda hard to load one on an airplane.  |
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Location: ND | i don't recall the last time i took a trailer to look at a horse.....just a checkbook or cash.....i can always go back or work something out if i want it.......and i guess i would never worry about ****ing a seller off if i didn't buy the horse right then or even if the horse was perfect and i wanted to look at some more.....or just think about it.....honestly, a seller shouldn't be ****ed of for agreeing to a bunch of demands.....that's on them......i can't figure out why some sellers think that if someone looks at their horse they should be obligated to buy for their trouble...... |
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| Is the horse priced at $5k or less?
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Location: Northeast Nebraska | I don't even have a trailer. Never have. And I did have the horse delivered out of state. For a fee of course. |
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 Purveyor of unconventional wisdom
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Location: CA | I finally had to sell my little mare at an auction. I set the researve quite high, and took time to meet the buyers just chatting. The gal that bought her was the perfect fit. I had tons of tire kickers, people showing up in open toed shoes, folks wanting their kids to have a pony ride, and many many no shows. I finally peaked and went the auction route. I wouldn't do that with any horse, but I wanted this one gone so I could find a better prospect. Things worked out, so I can't complain. I am looking now and finding sellers a wee bit hard to understand. Who sells a horse with no shoes and the only place to ride is a hard pan arena. I drove 3 hours with trailer in tow to find the horses nothing like advertised and that really ****ed me off. It isn't easy, but when you find "the one" it is totally worth it. :) Still waiting for "the one" to show up. lol It is like finding a "mate" lol |
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My Heelers are Heroes
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| DD2012 - 2013-12-28 6:54 PM Is the horse priced at $5k or less?
Yes he is less than $5,000. I failed to mention both parties drove over 3 hours to look.
Also, I did tell the people it was too muddy here and that we'd be taking him to a local sandy arena. What I ment to say was it is a huge pain to get my trailer out for a non-buyer.
For a lesser priced horse I am not willing to spend hundreds hauling him here and there. If he was a higher priced horse it'd be different. But then your dealing with a whole different class of people. |
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Miss Southern Sunshine
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Location: South Central Florida | I'm torn on this. I have read horror stories from sellers, but I have heard just as bad stories from buyers. There are a lot of junk/scam horse sellers out there. Personally I think if I want to make a sale, I do what it takes. I think good breders and trainers and sellers need to expect at least 50% nonpurchase contacts and low offers.
I can understand being insulted if a $20K horse for sale is offerred $2K, but other than that I don't really understand why people get mad. Just say no thank you and move on. It costs money to sell things, thats part of the price. I have never bought a horse on the first "look" either. I have always looked, maybe rode. Watched someone else ride and think/pray. Then I contact and meet or make offer. I had 1 horse drugged. If I had purchased on the first visit, I might never have known. I also do background research when available on the horse and the seller.
We have had threads on here about people making purchases too quick and getting swindeled. So since I have bought more than I have sold I guess I see it from the buyers side. |
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Location: NE Pa-Gods Country | OMG i just went thru a crazy one too...the guy that wanted to by my mare lived in the western part of a bordering state and i in the eastern of mine...he tried to get me to pay for all the shipping????? |
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 A Barrel Of Monkeys
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Location: Texas | cinch - 2013-12-28 12:29 PM For several reasons I decided to sell my 19 year old youth friendly horse. He's sound, healthy and has so much to give a kid. I have him priced at what I'd be willing to pay for a horse his age even though his knowledge is worth so much more.
First people show up with no trailer but bring their expert with them. Horse works perfect until expert gets on and she doesn't know how to cue a horse so he just kindof stands there not knowing what to do. But over all he rode good. They call back 2 days later and want to come back and set a day. They never show back up.
Second people show up with no trailer and also bring a expert. I had explained we'd need to go to the town arena as it is super muddy here. Not a problem except for the mud here which involves me getting my trailer out since they did not bring one (which tells me they are not a buyer) but the hardest part is getting my trailer back in when I get home. Plus, this cost me gas.
He rides even better for this little girl and their expert rode better than the first one. I really liked these people until Mom says they think it is good for girl to go around and get on different horses and they'd like to come ride him again. I told her I'd be happy to show him to a buyer but I didn't have time to just let people ride hm for free.
Third person has the gall to want me to bring him to them and they live out of state. Who does that?
Even though I don't need him and he's going to waste I'm ready to pull his shoes and just tell anyone else that he's not forsale or don't bother coming if your not bringing a trailer and money.
Wait for it, wait for it.......BAM - here comes the low ball offer.  |
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Location: Adopt a homeless pet - www.petfinder.com! | I just bought a horse on the west coast and I live in OK. It just happened to be down the road from my mom's so I flew out and had a visit with her and tried the horse. Obviously didn't bring my trailer with me, and that didn't make me a tire kicker. |
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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | I rarely take a trailer when i go to look at a horse, prospect, finished, broodmare, whatever. Look first, if I like it, I put down a deposit and come back and get it. I have only taken a trailer with twice. Once was a local horse as a broodmare and she was so cheap I was pretty sure i was getting her no matter what, and i did and i've had 2 wonderful foals out of her and one on the way in 2014 =)
2nd time was going to NM to go look at a broodmare i was sure I was getting. I looked at 2 and did not get either, Then i regretted my decision and ended up getting them both!
Mostly i dont take my trailer because a Seller can talk and be just as much of a time waster as a buyer can. |
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Industrial Srength Barrel Racer
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| I rarely EVER sell any of mine but several times I have used someone else to sell them for me - I just don't have an appetite for people not showing and wasting my time if they do show up. People who broker do it for a living and they are used to that CRAP. |
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 Ms Bling Bling Sleeze Kitty
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Location: LouLouVille, OK | I wouldn't waste my time with anyone that can't make up their mind the 1st ride... period... you either want him or stop wasting my time.
I will NOT haul a horse anywhere for someone to try either, been burned on several levels to get me where I am today lol...You either want him or you don't... price is what it is, poop or get off the pot...lol |
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Location: Kansas and loving it | I don't take a trailer either. Plus I have learned the value of riding at my place as well as theirs. I almost bought a horse that was gentle and rode like a dream, until I got him homr. I could hardly saddle him, he danced and snorted at the trailer. I decided that it was best not to get on. While bringing him back to his home the next day, he kicked dent marks into the back of my horse trailer. Was he a bad horse? Where the people selling him less than honest? I don't think that is the case. Some horses are comfortable at home, but a little more uncertain in strange surroundings. He was young, a 5 yr old that probably has not gotten all the wet saddle blankets he needed. I have tried many horses at my place because I live and ride alone. Most had problems riding out alone by cornfields and crp grass. I had one that just froze, I couldn't get him to move at all. I took him bavk too. I am not trying to waste anyone's time, but I have already been hurt by a horse that was not my match.
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 The Vaccinator
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | I never take a trailer when I go try horses. Often I have to fly to try horses. I go prepared to ride and my trainer/coach goes with me to ride the horses, too I have a vet lined up and on stand-by to do a vet check + x-rays if we like the horse after the ride. The owner knows this ahead of time. I am very clear that I am not bringing a trailer. I also show up with a list of questions and I am very clear that I do NOT want the horse saddled and standing there ready to step on. I want to see the horse standing the stall; I want to see him haltered, groomed, saddled, and warmed-up. It's a business deal, so I am very business-like and clear about my expectations and how I want it to "go down". I do not buy horses without seeing them in person and riding them and having a vet check that includes x-rays and blood work. That's my MO. |
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| My guess would be that 99.9% of respondents are, not only not in business, you are not in the horse business. If you live in a world where you pay a dollar figure for whatever the seller is asking, or you expect to get your 'selling' price from a buyer or not go above and beyond to make a sell, you live in a dream world or as with horses, you just think you are profitable. True profit will keep you in business until you have to chase down the next customer. Some of the "cream" in any business can name their own price and expect to sell their service or product, but they are the .1%. |
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Purveyor of unconventional wisdom
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Location: CA | Just went and looked at a really nice mare yesterday. She had no shoes on and the arena was hard pan. She did what was asked but took a few miss steps, sore feet? or did the bute wear off? So I am going back if they are willing to shoe her. Is that considered unreasonable? After that ride if she rides sound, the vet will come and do flexion tests. Does this make me a bad buyer? Oh and I didn't take my trailer...... |
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My Heelers are Heroes
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| Again, he is NOT a high priced horse and I do not sell horses and will not make a profit. I think it's crazy for me to be expected to spend more money than I'm asking for the horse to haul him all over the place.
I have a arena away from home to show him in but why should I go to the trouble for someone that just wants to let their kid ride a horse? And we did go to the arena. And we'll go back if they ever show up after making several appointments to come back.
I did let the kid, each time, do all the brushing and saddling. He was out in his paddock when they came. I did go out with them to halter him because I wasn't sure he would come right up to a stranger.
If they want to pay more than the purchase price they can either have a vet come here or for the gas money I'd take him to a vet reasonable distance away.
So far about all I haven't done is haul him to the person that wanted me to bring him out of state for them to try him.
I have contacted 2 different brokers. Seems neither have a market for a solid kids horse. I won't leave him just any where.
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Location: Carpenter, WY | I've got a good one :) Last week some people stopped by to visit. The wife and the little girl were out looking at the horses. I've got a big Slim weanling who is like a big dog and they were loving up on her and then I took them in the pen. Before they left the husband asks Dan to price the PONY in the first pen as his wife just loved her 
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My Heelers are Heroes
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| T turning 3 - 2013-12-29 10:38 AM Just went and looked at a really nice mare yesterday. She had no shoes on and the arena was hard pan. She did what was asked but took a few miss steps, sore feet? or did the bute wear off? So I am going back if they are willing to shoe her. Is that considered unreasonable? After that ride if she rides sound, the vet will come and do flexion tests. Does this make me a bad buyer? Oh and I didn't take my trailer......
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| cinch - 2013-12-29 10:52 AM
Again, he is NOT a high priced horse and I do not sell horses and will not make a profit. I think it's crazy for me to be expected to spend more money than I'm asking for the horse to haul him all over the place.
I have a arena away from home to show him in but why should I go to the trouble for someone that just wants to let their kid ride a horse?
I did let the kid, each time, do all the brushing and saddling. He was out in his paddock when they came. I did go out with them to halter him because I wasn't sure he would come right up to a stranger.
If they want to pay more than the purchase price they can either have a vet come here or for the gas money I'd take him to a vet reasonable distance away.
So far about all I haven't done is haul him to the person that wanted me to bring him out of state for them to try him.
I have contacted 2 different brokers. Seems neither have a market for a solid kids horse. I won't leave him just any where.
Reasonable expectations are un-reasonable in the horse business.
If you just have a horse to sell, good kid horse or not, the 'right' buyer will need to come along. Trouble is, is it worth your time/effort, for that buyer to show up and make the sale.
In my area, good kid horse that is a brl horse, is worth alot and as such are hard to find. 'Good kid horses' are given away to get off feed bills or out of the pasture where they are trying to commit suicide. |
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Always Off Topic
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Location: ND | cinch - 2013-12-29 10:52 AM Again, he is NOT a high priced horse and I do not sell horses and will not make a profit. I think it's crazy for me to be expected to spend more money than I'm asking for the horse to haul him all over the place.
I have a arena away from home to show him in but why should I go to the trouble for someone that just wants to let their kid ride a horse? And we did go to the arena. And we'll go back if they ever show up after making several appointments to come back.
I did let the kid, each time, do all the brushing and saddling. He was out in his paddock when they came. I did go out with them to halter him because I wasn't sure he would come right up to a stranger.
If they want to pay more than the purchase price they can either have a vet come here or for the gas money I'd take him to a vet reasonable distance away.
So far about all I haven't done is haul him to the person that wanted me to bring him out of state for them to try him.
I have contacted 2 different brokers. Seems neither have a market for a solid kids horse. I won't leave him just any where.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Maybe you have him priced to low and all the cheapo's are coming out, price him higher and maybe you can weed out the ones that dont know much and maybe the right buying will come along, just my thoughts.  |
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Location: left field | Three 4 Luck - 2013-12-29 4:52 PM awest - 2013-12-28 3:29 PM If I'm going to bother someone enough to go try their horse, I'm taking a trailer and buying the horse ONLY as long as the horse is what they said it is. I'm not going to waste my time and someone elses if I'm not seriously going to write a check that day and take the horse home. If I'm just sort of interested, I'll tell them so and if it works out for me to meet them somewhere and not inconvenience them. I think its rude to ask someone to try their horse, use their time and money and then pass on the horse if it did everything they advertised. Once I had someone ask me to haul a horse to an arena 2 hours away, she showed up with no trailer, rode my horse, he worked great, her husband rode him, they both loved him and then she offered me half my asking price. I was mad, loaded up my horse, paid the rental on the arena and left. Now that's a rude buyer. What about someone who flies in to look at your horse? Kinda hard to load one on an airplane.
If someone is serious enough to fly in to try a horse that's pretty different than driving. |
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Location: Northeast Nebraska | GoGaited - 2013-12-28 6:59 PM
I don't even have a trailer. Never have. And I did have the horse delivered out of state. For a fee of course.
Which part did you dislike? The fact I've never had a trailer? I've never much liked that either, but you live the life you have. |
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I Really Love Jeans
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Location: North Dakota | I had a mare at $1200, all the wack jobs started calling. I priced her at $3200 and she sold for a little under that to a good buyer! Advertise and state that you will not haul, trade, etc...this helps weed them out also! |
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Location: Qld Australia | I am hearing you OP. We breed and sell a lot of horses and I tell you, if a well bred horse is priced cheap, you get every weirdo under the sun ringing.
I just sold a 3yo mare that has only had four rides, she is super quiet. Well handled, been to shows, ground broke to death etc, etc, etc. Really huge mare and great looking. I priced her low as we are in a drought and have almost no feed left. I have broodmares and foal plus yearlings that I will have to start fully hand feeding soon. Also, I REALLY, REALLY, REALLY did not want to sell her.
Anyway - I had THREE women arrange times to pick her up. Not look at but actually buy over the phone and bring the cash the next day. All three stood me up. The third one made a song and dance about how shocking the others were and how she will be there at this time etc etc and she never showed up either. My husband said I was stupid to allow myself to be scammed the third time but I just couldn't play hardball. ost people sound genuine over the phone.
I also had a guy ringing saying he didn't want to waste me time but all he did was ring and state the same reasons over and over about why he COULDN'T buy her. He asked me to hold her for one day for him to work things out. I did this. (Yes, I know, he was number 4, I suck. lol) Anyway, he rang and said he wasn't interested so I called the next person who had contacted as soon as I got off the phone. The original guy rang back 10 mins later and got huffy that the next person on the list was coming to get her. SIGH.
As for the no trailer part. I agree with most everyone else. That means nothing and I find it quite rude and completely silly that some people on here take this as a sign of tyre kickers. In the probably hundreds of horses we have bred and sold, I honestly cannot remember a buyer bringing a trailer the first time they looked at the horse unless they had arranged the purchase and paid prior.
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Location: Kansas | I'm dealing with a lot of junk from potential buyers, actually no none of them are serious inquiries.
I'm selling a broodmare, I have her priced at a VERY reasonable price for how she is bred. Like under $1,000 to move her because I need the cash. So far I've had 5 extremely low offers, including a $200 offer, and a $400 offer. I've had people asking me to trade for weanlings (which I wouldn't mind if I wasn't going through as much hay/grain as I am), and people wanting to make her a barrel horse (she has a scar on her hind right leg, which I explained to them I doubt she is performance sound so I will not sell her to someone who will try to make a barrel horse out of her).
not trying to sound snippy, but I think at this point I'm just going to end up keeping her and breeding her in 2014 just to end dealing with people. I hate selling horses. |
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Meanest Teacher!!!
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Location: sunny california | hoofs_in_motion - 2013-12-30 5:54 AM I'm dealing with a lot of junk from potential buyers, actually no none of them are serious inquiries.
I'm selling a broodmare, I have her priced at a VERY reasonable price for how she is bred. Like under $1,000 to move her because I need the cash. So far I've had 5 extremely low offers, including a $200 offer, and a $400 offer. I've had people asking me to trade for weanlings (which I wouldn't mind if I wasn't going through as much hay/grain as I am), and people wanting to make her a barrel horse (she has a scar on her hind right leg, which I explained to them I doubt she is performance sound so I will not sell her to someone who will try to make a barrel horse out of her).
not trying to sound snippy, but I think at this point I'm just going to end up keeping her and breeding her in 2014 just to end dealing with people. I hate selling horses.
I had the same problem a few years ago. I tried to lease out a couple of very nice mares for breeding and even offered to pay for their hay since I have to feed them now anyway. I don't have pasture, so I don't want to breed them. I just wanted them to have a happier life but I can't pay the $300 per month retirement prices here in california!
Anyway I had people trying to get me to price them. some wanted to see if they could get them on the pattern. I am not interested in selling them. I had decided if I got them in the right hands after I was cedrtain they just wanted to breed them i would have given them away. but nope everyone wanted me to price them
And yes this is the real deal. I traded a STREAK OF FLING mare for a colt that I gave way just to get her with a breeder and not see her jammed on the barrels to turn a buck |
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 You get what you give
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Location: Texas | I typically do what I can to accommodate buyers to make a sale. If I get a bad vibe or if I think the horse and rider aren't going to fit, then I will say it up front and move on.
Showing horses to potential buyers is just part of it. you are going to see all kinds when you do it. I'm just grateful if I actually get people to COME OUT and see the horse. usually it's a random text or email and then nothing.
Whether we bring a trailer or not depends on a few things… the last few times we have looked at finished horses, we didn't bring the trailer, just because even if we did buy on the spot it would take some time to schedule a vet check and the horse would still be in their care. For prospects or broodmares that we aren't riding beforehand we just bring the trailer and take them home that day. |
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Location: LaCygne, KS | Three 4 Luck - 2013-12-28 6:52 PM awest - 2013-12-28 3:29 PM If I'm going to bother someone enough to go try their horse, I'm taking a trailer and buying the horse ONLY as long as the horse is what they said it is. I'm not going to waste my time and someone elses if I'm not seriously going to write a check that day and take the horse home. If I'm just sort of interested, I'll tell them so and if it works out for me to meet them somewhere and not inconvenience them. I think its rude to ask someone to try their horse, use their time and money and then pass on the horse if it did everything they advertised. Once I had someone ask me to haul a horse to an arena 2 hours away, she showed up with no trailer, rode my horse, he worked great, her husband rode him, they both loved him and then she offered me half my asking price. I was mad, loaded up my horse, paid the rental on the arena and left. Now that's a rude buyer. What about someone who flies in to look at your horse? Kinda hard to load one on an airplane.
Love those Fly In folks. Come on up today V. The temp is about right. LOL. JT |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Prehistoric - 2013-12-30 9:30 AM Three 4 Luck - 2013-12-28 6:52 PM awest - 2013-12-28 3:29 PM If I'm going to bother someone enough to go try their horse, I'm taking a trailer and buying the horse ONLY as long as the horse is what they said it is. I'm not going to waste my time and someone elses if I'm not seriously going to write a check that day and take the horse home. If I'm just sort of interested, I'll tell them so and if it works out for me to meet them somewhere and not inconvenience them. I think its rude to ask someone to try their horse, use their time and money and then pass on the horse if it did everything they advertised. Once I had someone ask me to haul a horse to an arena 2 hours away, she showed up with no trailer, rode my horse, he worked great, her husband rode him, they both loved him and then she offered me half my asking price. I was mad, loaded up my horse, paid the rental on the arena and left. Now that's a rude buyer. What about someone who flies in to look at your horse? Kinda hard to load one on an airplane.
Haha. I'd have to borrow your carharts and a crane to lift me onto the horse. Good seasoning for the colts tho! |
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Sellers how much crap do you put up with?