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   Location: MI | I know in the big picture there are a lot larger problems, but I'd really appreciate some prayer for a delicate situation that my husband and I have going on in our lives right now. My husband's aunt started boarding 2, now 1, horses with us this past summer. Initially I was really excited to have someone to ride with, spend time talking about horses with, etc. As time has gone on, my husband and I have realized that our work ethics and use of horse related terminology is different than his aunt's, and it's really been a struggle for us to keep family close, but also not stress us out with farm work and other behaviors that they have (being late consistently, numerous excuses for whatever reasons, etc). My husband's aunt (in her 50s) has a history with horses, is very 'brain smart' about horses, and has shown quite successfully. Her mom backed her strongly financially when she showed. I have worked hard for most everything with horses that I have regarding horses, and haven't had the financial assistance (although my parents helped me out some when I first got into it). I think these two backgrounds have definitely affected how we do things now, and my husband and I just don't have the equipment, buildings, or help to do things the way she is accustomed to, so her boyfriend and her just seem to pick their own way based on their knowledge, rather than asking us first. Anyway, it's been really hard for us to balance, has costed us a lot of money, my mare is negatively affected by her horse's behaviors and they have fed my horses corn without asking...the list goes on.
So today she texted my husband and asked him to stop by and get her horse's grain because she can't make it up our driveway, and my husband replied that my mother in a kia spectra and the fed-ex truck have made it up recently, and that she can call at the end of the driveway and he will come get her. There were a few other things added in that really did need to be said, but I'm sure struck a nerve. She only really communicates through text and hasn't been out to see her horse in the last 2.5 weeks, so it's really hard to talk with her. She responded with about 5 pages of text that he hasn't read yet. I just pray that this can be resolved with love. We have tried really hard to help out them, and in their own way I know they have tried too, we just aren't meshing well.
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   Location: Great NW | I would too would tell her what you typed and tell her to find another barn. It is always hard when family is involved but it should not cost you money to have her at your barn ! | |
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   Location: MI | We've tried to tell them...my husband has to go through her texts to see what she had to reply to him. Up until now, they haven't had the money to board anywhere, which is partially why we have tried to help them out. But she has a good job now. If I thought she would come out and see him, work with him so he had better manners, then I would be more willing to let things go. But to just have an extra horse at our house that behaves worse and is more destructive than mine, just takes twice as long to do things with, it's hard to just let it ride.
Thanks for the words, I wish there was another way. I will send what I wrote to my husband though and he can use it, or I will. It's such a bummer... | |
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      Location: stray dump capital of the world | It's hard to help friends and family. I have a friend that asked me to take in one of her horses and she would pay minimal board. She didn't want him boarded with her others because the place she has her others has no turnout. The horses are stalled 24/7/365 and this horse is in his 30s. I told her with my 9 that I could not afford another one. Against my husband's wishes, I took the horse in. He was at least 200lbs underweight and likely more. I honestly thought he would die within a couple weeks. He was literally a bag of bones. She paid the first 2 months and then nothing. No feed, hay, farrier, no visit...nada. It has been 6 months of my money feeding this boy and giving him supplements. He is now due for shots and I'm sure I'll be paying that too. I've called and asked her, at minimum, to bring some feed out, but she says she can't. The horse is a butterball now and I know he is very happy to be here. He is a real sweetheart. I'm just shocked that someone I considered to be a friend would do this to me, but worse, abandon her horse.
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It doesn't matter if they are friends or family ... moochers and
manipulators are everywhere .... so why stress yourself and
family with these people that should be kissing your butt ...
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   Location: MI | Sophiebelle - I'm so sorry you are going through that! It takes so much work on the older horses sometimes, and I can't believe that she would just leave him without paying. I'm glad that he's easy going for you at least, that's a little something I guess.
I was thinking about this while cleaning stalls the other day, and my dad would have had my behind if I EVER acted like this. I used to work for my horses board, 3 hours a day, 3 days a week - pasture board!
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      Location: stray dump capital of the world | Ridenrun4745 - 2014-01-04 7:53 AM Sophiebelle - I'm so sorry you are going through that! It takes so much work on the older horses sometimes, and I can't believe that she would just leave him without paying. I'm glad that he's easy going for you at least, that's a little something I guess. I was thinking about this while cleaning stalls the other day, and my dad would have had my behind if I EVER acted like this. I used to work for my horses board, 3 hours a day, 3 days a week - pasture board! But anyway, ... BarrelHorse - nice picture, lol. Thanks.
I understand times getting hard, but a bag of feed or two a month says a lot. It's not so much the not paying board. I can live with that, but not contacting us to see how he is doing or making any offer at all is the straw. Each month, I let her know where we are at in bills, but clearly she just doesn't give a rat's a$$. It's not like I can sell him and recoup my losses either. At any rate, he is here, cared for, fat and sassy, which is a far cry from where he came, and it is here where he will live the remainder of his life. As for her and our friendship...I've closed the door on that. Unlike you, Ridenrun, you are stuck with family. I should post before and after pictures of him, but I know she frequents this site. Perhaps reading this post will jar her pocketbook. | |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Ridenrun4745 - 2014-01-04 7:53 AM Sophiebelle - I'm so sorry you are going through that! It takes so much work on the older horses sometimes, and I can't believe that she would just leave him without paying. I'm glad that he's easy going for you at least, that's a little something I guess. I was thinking about this while cleaning stalls the other day, and my dad would have had my behind if I EVER acted like this. I used to work for my horses board, 3 hours a day, 3 days a week - pasture board! But anyway, ... BarrelHorse - nice picture, lol. Thanks.
You have a big heart for taking care of this horse, but this person still needs to step up and help you, whats going to happen if there is a vet bill? And I guess that you are having to pay the farrier bill on him too. | |
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       Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | What about asking her how much of a board bill she can afford now that she had a better job and tell her you'll help her find a new place?
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      Location: stray dump capital of the world | Southtxponygirl - 2014-01-04 10:34 AM Ridenrun4745 - 2014-01-04 7:53 AM Sophiebelle - I'm so sorry you are going through that! It takes so much work on the older horses sometimes, and I can't believe that she would just leave him without paying. I'm glad that he's easy going for you at least, that's a little something I guess. I was thinking about this while cleaning stalls the other day, and my dad would have had my behind if I EVER acted like this. I used to work for my horses board, 3 hours a day, 3 days a week - pasture board! But anyway, ... BarrelHorse - nice picture, lol. Thanks. You have a big heart for taking care of this horse, but this person still needs to step up and help you, whats going to happen if there is a vet bill? And I guess that you are having to pay the farrier bill on him too.
I do pay his farrier bill, plus his dewormings, feed, rice bran, beet pulp, alfalfa, hay and supplements so he can get around in his old age. I blanket him when it is cold, feed twice a day, turn him out, put him up...treat him as my own. Shots and coggins are due and that will come out of my pocket too. The last time I spoke to her was October and her comment was, "If I could pay for him, I would." I don't have the luxury to make that statement and she knows I'm not going to turn my back on him. Karma has a way of handling things and I'm certain Karma will knock on her door one day. She lost a good friend in this deal. I gained another horse. LoL... | |
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   Location: MI | sophiebelle - 2014-01-04 8:10 AM
Ridenrun4745 - 2014-01-04 7:53 AM Sophiebelle - I'm so sorry you are going through that! It takes so much work on the older horses sometimes, and I can't believe that she would just leave him without paying. I'm glad that he's easy going for you at least, that's a little something I guess. I was thinking about this while cleaning stalls the other day, and my dad would have had my behind if I EVER acted like this. I used to work for my horses board, 3 hours a day, 3 days a week - pasture board! But anyway, ... BarrelHorse - nice picture, lol. Thanks.
I understand times getting hard, but a bag of feed or two a month says a lot. It's not so much the not paying board. I can live with that, but not contacting us to see how he is doing or making any offer at all is the straw. Each month, I let her know where we are at in bills, but clearly she just doesn't give a rat's a$$. It's not like I can sell him and recoup my losses either. At any rate, he is here, cared for, fat and sassy, which is a far cry from where he came, and it is here where he will live the remainder of his life. As for her and our friendship...I've closed the door on that. Unlike you, Ridenrun, you are stuck with family. I should post before and after pictures of him, but I know she frequents this site. Perhaps reading this post will jar her pocketbook.
I totally agree! Asking about how he is doing, coming to see him, and honestly, trying to pay for feed, shows that they care at least. Our situation ebbs and flows, really. When they first came they were shipped from CA to MI, and they looked like crud when they got here. I don't know what they looked like before, but they were skinny. She grained them for about a week, but then stopped and put them only on pasture. It took them a long time to get better. She has been paying for grain this winter, but asks my husband to pick it up at her house instead of bringing it out (which he is not happy about, understandably). And she did pay $300 for hay for this winter (but we have been feeding hay since October). I'm OK not being paid a full pasture board, but the initial deal was that she would be out here every day (her words, I said a few times a week would be fine!) and that they would do work around here to help us out. I would be ok with the situation if they at least came out and worked with the horse, or if he was easy going. But he's a 4 year old, unbroke, ADD Arabian gelding that needs a job - or at least handled a couple of times a week - so that when I go to move him to another pasture, or something, he doesn't take 2-3 times the amount of time of my horses. And so that when we are feeding, he doesn't loom his giraffe neck over the stall door and nibble on my children's hair. And if he wasn't eating my fences ... anyway ...
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   Location: MI | Fairweather - 2014-01-04 10:41 AM
What about asking her how much of a board bill she can afford now that she had a better job and tell her you'll help her find a new place?
Spring is coming up and you need to refurbish your pastures and you don't have room for everyone....
She did say in the text to my husband that she would be looking for another place for him to board. Whether she acts on it or not, I don't know. It wasn't really what my husband was asking, but when her mare whirled and kicked at me in the pasture and I told her, rather than trying to work with her she said she would sell her. Seems a bit drastic, but I didn't recall what I said because at that time she didn't have a job, this mare looked like crud and really needed more care than what she was getting. So, hopefully she will be finding him a new place? She's looking at a minimum of $100-150 a month though for pasture board around here. But, yea, I could use pasture. | |
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              Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Ridenrun4745 - 2014-01-03 11:47 AM I know in the big picture there are a lot larger problems, but I'd really appreciate some prayer for a delicate situation that my husband and I have going on in our lives right now. My husband's aunt started boarding 2, now 1, horses with us this past summer. Initially I was really excited to have someone to ride with, spend time talking about horses with, etc. As time has gone on, my husband and I have realized that our work ethics and use of horse related terminology is different than his aunt's, and it's really been a struggle for us to keep family close, but also not stress us out with farm work and other behaviors that they have (being late consistently, numerous excuses for whatever reasons, etc). My husband's aunt (in her 50s) has a history with horses, is very 'brain smart' about horses, and has shown quite successfully. Her mom backed her strongly financially when she showed. I have worked hard for most everything with horses that I have regarding horses, and haven't had the financial assistance (although my parents helped me out some when I first got into it). I think these two backgrounds have definitely affected how we do things now, and my husband and I just don't have the equipment, buildings, or help to do things the way she is accustomed to, so her boyfriend and her just seem to pick their own way based on their knowledge, rather than asking us first. Anyway, it's been really hard for us to balance, has costed us a lot of money, my mare is negatively affected by her horse's behaviors and they have fed my horses corn without asking...the list goes on. So today she texted my husband and asked him to stop by and get her horse's grain because she can't make it up our driveway, and my husband replied that my mother in a kia spectra and the fed-ex truck have made it up recently, and that she can call at the end of the driveway and he will come get her. There were a few other things added in that really did need to be said, but I'm sure struck a nerve. She only really communicates through text and hasn't been out to see her horse in the last 2.5 weeks, so it's really hard to talk with her. She responded with about 5 pages of text that he hasn't read yet. I just pray that this can be resolved with love. We have tried really hard to help out them, and in their own way I know they have tried too, we just aren't meshing well. Thanks...
I hope that you are saving all the receipts on the feed, hay, farrier, vet, ect.... if this person was such a horse women at one time she dont show it now, so what the heck is she doing with horses at all? A true horse person does not do this, we go broke taking care of our animals,,, LOL. | |
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      Location: stray dump capital of the world | Ridenrun4745 - 2014-01-04 10:49 AM sophiebelle - 2014-01-04 8:10 AM Ridenrun4745 - 2014-01-04 7:53 AM Sophiebelle - I'm so sorry you are going through that! It takes so much work on the older horses sometimes, and I can't believe that she would just leave him without paying. I'm glad that he's easy going for you at least, that's a little something I guess. I was thinking about this while cleaning stalls the other day, and my dad would have had my behind if I EVER acted like this. I used to work for my horses board, 3 hours a day, 3 days a week - pasture board! But anyway, ... BarrelHorse - nice picture, lol. Thanks. I understand times getting hard, but a bag of feed or two a month says a lot. It's not so much the not paying board. I can live with that, but not contacting us to see how he is doing or making any offer at all is the straw. Each month, I let her know where we are at in bills, but clearly she just doesn't give a rat's a$$. It's not like I can sell him and recoup my losses either. At any rate, he is here, cared for, fat and sassy, which is a far cry from where he came, and it is here where he will live the remainder of his life. As for her and our friendship...I've closed the door on that. Unlike you, Ridenrun, you are stuck with family.
I should post before and after pictures of him, but I know she frequents this site. Perhaps reading this post will jar her pocketbook. I totally agree! Asking about how he is doing, coming to see him, and honestly, trying to pay for feed, shows that they care at least. Our situation ebbs and flows, really. When they first came they were shipped from CA to MI, and they looked like crud when they got here. I don't know what they looked like before, but they were skinny. She grained them for about a week, but then stopped and put them only on pasture. It took them a long time to get better. She has been paying for grain this winter, but asks my husband to pick it up at her house instead of bringing it out (which he is not happy about, understandably ). And she did pay $300 for hay for this winter (but we have been feeding hay since October ). I'm OK not being paid a full pasture board, but the initial deal was that she would be out here every day (her words, I said a few times a week would be fine! ) and that they would do work around here to help us out. I would be ok with the situation if they at least came out and worked with the horse, or if he was easy going. But he's a 4 year old, unbroke, ADD Arabian gelding that needs a job - or at least handled a couple of times a week - so that when I go to move him to another pasture, or something, he doesn't take 2-3 times the amount of time of my horses. And so that when we are feeding, he doesn't loom his giraffe neck over the stall door and nibble on my children's hair. And if he wasn't eating my fences ... anyway ... I hope it works out for you though, Sophie!
The added time with an extra horse is a lot especially when both my husband and I work full time. You wouldn't think one more would make much difference, but they do. This guy is sweet but he is heck on my gates. He likes to step on the bottom bar and lean in on them. He's ruined 3 gates and I'm sure I'll eat that loss too. Wishing you the best of luck, too. I didn't mean to steal your thread and I thank you for the opportunity to vent. haha! There are doers and moochers. I'd rather be a doer than a moocher. This old horse deserves a nice retirement life. He's done his time and thank goodness, there isn't a lick of Arab in him. haha! | |
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   Location: MI | Southtxponygirl - 2014-01-04 10:34 AM
Ridenrun4745 - 2014-01-04 7:53 AM Sophiebelle - I'm so sorry you are going through that! It takes so much work on the older horses sometimes, and I can't believe that she would just leave him without paying. I'm glad that he's easy going for you at least, that's a little something I guess. I was thinking about this while cleaning stalls the other day, and my dad would have had my behind if I EVER acted like this. I used to work for my horses board, 3 hours a day, 3 days a week - pasture board! But anyway, ... BarrelHorse - nice picture, lol. Thanks.
You have a big heart for taking care of this horse, but this person still needs to step up and help you, whats going to happen if there is a vet bill? And I guess that you are having to pay the farrier bill on him too.
I made the appt for the farrier and told her when. My farrier is also my vet, and an old friend, so I try to be really respectful of his time and schedule because he doesn't do many horse trims anymore and I don't want to lose him! The day of the appt came and she says that she doesn't think she will make it out. Because of her previous history, I didn't want this to become a habit, so I told her I would hold her horse this time (who does NOT stand good for trims), but next time she needed to tell me when I made the appt. I was fairly clear (probably came across pretty firm) because I didn't want this to happen again and knew that it likely would. She did write me a check for part of the trim cost, but she started avoiding us that day and only her boyfriend would come up to the house.
I don't know, maybe I upset her and we are going about this wrong? But I think it's really really disrespectful to show up late when we had tried to set a time to work out at the farm, cancel the day of, make excuses at the last minute, and when it comes to upsetting my friend's schedule, I will say something...so she said that she would make her own appts from now on. Well, that's fine, but I had a hard time getting someone out here for 2 horses before my farrier/vet graduated from school. But maybe she has connections that I don't, although I haven't seen anyone out here...
I guess it comes down to this, if I can't trust someone to follow through on what they say they will do, it really makes it hard for me to respect them and want to help them out. Although, it does hurt and any situation where this happens just stinks. | |
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   Location: MI | sophiebelle - 2014-01-04 10:58 AM
Ridenrun4745 - 2014-01-04 10:49 AM sophiebelle - 2014-01-04 8:10 AM Ridenrun4745 - 2014-01-04 7:53 AM Sophiebelle - I'm so sorry you are going through that! It takes so much work on the older horses sometimes, and I can't believe that she would just leave him without paying. I'm glad that he's easy going for you at least, that's a little something I guess. I was thinking about this while cleaning stalls the other day, and my dad would have had my behind if I EVER acted like this. I used to work for my horses board, 3 hours a day, 3 days a week - pasture board! But anyway, ... BarrelHorse - nice picture, lol. Thanks. I understand times getting hard, but a bag of feed or two a month says a lot. It's not so much the not paying board. I can live with that, but not contacting us to see how he is doing or making any offer at all is the straw. Each month, I let her know where we are at in bills, but clearly she just doesn't give a rat's a$$. It's not like I can sell him and recoup my losses either. At any rate, he is here, cared for, fat and sassy, which is a far cry from where he came, and it is here where he will live the remainder of his life. As for her and our friendship...I've closed the door on that. Unlike you, Ridenrun, you are stuck with family.
I should post before and after pictures of him, but I know she frequents this site. Perhaps reading this post will jar her pocketbook. I totally agree! Asking about how he is doing, coming to see him, and honestly, trying to pay for feed, shows that they care at least. Our situation ebbs and flows, really. When they first came they were shipped from CA to MI, and they looked like crud when they got here. I don't know what they looked like before, but they were skinny. She grained them for about a week, but then stopped and put them only on pasture. It took them a long time to get better. She has been paying for grain this winter, but asks my husband to pick it up at her house instead of bringing it out (which he is not happy about, understandably ). And she did pay $300 for hay for this winter (but we have been feeding hay since October ). I'm OK not being paid a full pasture board, but the initial deal was that she would be out here every day (her words, I said a few times a week would be fine! ) and that they would do work around here to help us out. I would be ok with the situation if they at least came out and worked with the horse, or if he was easy going. But he's a 4 year old, unbroke, ADD Arabian gelding that needs a job - or at least handled a couple of times a week - so that when I go to move him to another pasture, or something, he doesn't take 2-3 times the amount of time of my horses. And so that when we are feeding, he doesn't loom his giraffe neck over the stall door and nibble on my children's hair. And if he wasn't eating my fences ... anyway ... I hope it works out for you though, Sophie!
The added time with an extra horse is a lot especially when both my husband and I work full time. You wouldn't think one more would make much difference, but they do. This guy is sweet but he is heck on my gates. He likes to step on the bottom bar and lean in on them. He's ruined 3 gates and I'm sure I'll eat that loss too. Wishing you the best of luck, too. I didn't mean to steal your thread and I thank you for the opportunity to vent. haha! There are doers and moochers. I'd rather be a doer than a moocher. This old horse deserves a nice retirement life. He's done his time and thank goodness, there isn't a lick of Arab in him. haha!
You are more than welcome to vent! I wish there was a better solution than just eating the cost! Oh my goodness, I know, 1 more horse does make a difference, even though you wouldn't think they would so much. The entire herd dynamics change.
I'm sorry he's hard on gates, that's expensive to replace too. :( Man, I know there are some good Arabs, and I think if this one had a job he'd actually be a pretty nice horse, but he is high maintenance! I totally agree, I'd rather do than mooch too. :)
ETA - I really appreciate the thoughts/feedback on this situation. I feel like we have really tried to make things work, but I know that we could be totally wrong too, and am ok with that and trying to change things to try to work if that is the case. Thank you guys, so much :)
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| Sophiebelle , I know who you are talking about. You should tell the truth, and stop the lies. You wanted her to leave the horse with you. She knows and has had more horses than you will ever in your life time. She cares deeply for all her animals, you know this to be true-yes the other two are at a stable now, because she moved and has no land now-they are cared for every day, you have swindled her out of money in the past. You said " I'm certain Karma will knock on her door " Really how could say such a mean and cruel thing-she has Lupas, isnt that enough for you-? Keep your mean and lieing remarks in that little bitty head of yours sweetheart--cause we sure would not want Karma to come knocking at your door-cause Daddy's money might not be enough to get you out of what ever Karma might bring. There is good and bad --and I only wish good for people, just thought you should rethink what you say and tell people. : . )
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Sophiebelle , I know who you are talking about. You should tell the truth, and stop the lies. You wanted her to leave the horse with you. She knows and has had more horses than you will ever in your life time. She cares deeply for all her animals, you know this to be true-yes the other two are at a stable now, because she moved and has no land now-they are cared for every day, you have swindled her out of money in the past. You said " I'm certain Karma will knock on her door " Really how could say such a mean and cruel thing-she has Lupas, isnt that enough for you-? Keep your mean and lieing remarks in that little bitty head of yours sweetheart--cause we sure would not want Karma to come knocking at your door-cause Daddy's money might not be enough to get you out of what ever Karma might bring. There is good and bad --and I only wish good for people, just thought you should rethink what you say and tell people. : . )
Lupus is a very treatable disease. With the correct meds, you can put it in remission without side effects.
From my experience the meds aren't that expensive about 40/month
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   Location: MI | Since this is my original thread, I'd like to ask to stop the ugliness and let this thread die...
We all know that there are 2 sides to every story, and that there are different burdens for each of us that some may be able to tolerate, and others not. Can we keep this into consideration please? I wanted support because I was having a hard time dealing with my situation while trying to keep it as 'fair' as possible for all involved. I always hesitate to say something, because I totally understand that my perspective is not my husband's aunts. Thank you, to those who did offer support, and it's ok to let it go now. :) | |
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     Location: N Texas | What I'm going to say is probably not going to go over very well, but you have to take the emotion out of it and stop letting her take advantage of you. Make her pay you up front for farrier and vet costs. If she doesn't pay, the horse doesn't get shots or his feet trimmed. It is NOT your responsibility to make sure her horse has the best care possible. You're letting your emotions control your decisions because you feel sorry for the horse. He needs to get the most basic care...feed, hay, water, shelter. That's it. You're enabling her by providing more than that, and you're making it easy on her (holding her horse for the farrier because she can't be there), etc.
I speak from experience. It's incredibly hard to just look the other way when someone isn't caring for their horse the same way you would. But that's the thing--everyone does things differently, and just because she doesn't do EVERYTHING you do, doesn't make it wrong.
Not getting regular trims, worming, shots, etc is not ideal, but it's not going to kill the horse. Trust me. I know horses that get feed and hay and THAT'S IT. No worming, maybe once a year trims, no shots, and they're fine. It's not my business how other people take care of their horses. Your deal was to provide a place for the horse to stay. She doesn't sound like she cares about the horse, or she'd be making more of an effort. Tell her she has x amount of time to find a new place for the horse to go. Put your foot down!  | |
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     Location: N Texas | I wanted to add that you're helping out an ungrateful family member at the risk of your family's and horses' safety and sanity. This horse is unsafe, is mean to the other horses, and is destructive, yet you're putting up with it because you're too nice to make her find a new place for it. Make her bring feed to you...if she doesn't, the horse doesn't eat. He'll survive on hay just fine.
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      Location: stray dump capital of the world | cheryl makofka - 2014-01-05 10:46 PM justmetalking - 2014-01-05 10:27 PM Sophiebelle , I know who you are talking about. You should tell the truth, and stop the lies. You wanted her to leave the horse with you. She knows and has had more horses than you will ever in your life time. She cares deeply for all her animals, you know this to be true-yes the other two are at a stable now, because she moved and has no land now-they are cared for every day, you have swindled her out of money in the past. You said " I'm certain Karma will knock on her door " Really how could say such a mean and cruel thing-she has Lupas, isnt that enough for you-? Keep your mean and lieing remarks in that little bitty head of yours sweetheart--cause we sure would not want Karma to come knocking at your door-cause Daddy's money might not be enough to get you out of what ever Karma might bring. There is good and bad --and I only wish good for people, just thought you should rethink what you say and tell people. : . ) Lupus is a very treatable disease. With the correct meds, you can put it in remission without side effects. From my experience the meds aren't that expensive about 40/month I'm not sure lupus should be a crutch for not inquiring about ones horse or offering to pay costs I havent been here in a whole, but thank you, Cheryl. Point made, however, Justmetalking has NO clue who I am talking about because I have NO clue who they are talking about. What Justmetalking must be referring to another guilty conscience. The person I'm referring to has not had, nor ever will have more horses than me, I did not want the horse left with me, I offered to "board" it. That defines a business arrangement, not abandonment. I have never swindled money out of anyone ever past or present (except maybe my husband, but what's his is mine anyway) Finally my dear, I am long past the age to use my father's money, if he had any to give me. So...before you pop off on a thread you know nothing about, please check your facts.
ETA: If by some weird shot in the dark you THINK we are talking about the same person, have them contact me and they can make a deposit of feed or hay and I'll retract my Karma statement. Chances are, I won't hear from them, and that means we are not speaking of the same person. 
Edited by sophiebelle 2014-01-07 1:07 PM
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