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Location: MD | I'm a trainer. That is what I do for a living. I have made that very clear. I have never professed to be a top Futurity rider, never said I was a great jockey. Actually, I'm pretty sure that I have said it before, but if not, please allow me to say it now. My main focus is on making solid, user friendly barrel horses that go on to make others happy and successful. I also devote much of my time and energies to instruction and education. I apologize if I come off as trying to be something more than I am at times. |
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| Nothing wrong with training. Back when I got my worthless self in the saddle, my goal was to train a horse ANYBODY could ride.......they point being if I could ride them, anyone could.
I know I'm not the greatest jockey in the world, but I hope someday my kiddo can train and jockey. She is already better than I am. |
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Location: stray dump capital of the world | I don't know you other than what advice you give on here. I, for one, appreciate the advice and critiques that you share. I don't see you as coming off as anything than what you are which is helpful. |
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| sophiebelle - 2014-01-07 8:44 PM I don't know you other than what advice you give on here. I, for one, appreciate the advice and critiques that you share. I don't see you as coming off as anything than what you are which is helpful.
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| I always appreciate your advice. Once again thank you for sharing your knowledge. I have rode and run horses since I was a little kid but after many years away from it and injuries, fear and lack of confidence it is wonderfull to be able to read and understand some straight forward words of wisdom. Once upon a time I was a pretty good jockey but now well I do my best to not get in their way. Thanks |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | Wrap.
I appreciate all the help that you bring to this forum.
I am just a rider and a father that had a lot of fun taking his daughters to a lot of horse shows. Now its time for me to do my time at the horse shows just for the fun of it. At 57 I don't think that I will be very competitive against the younger ones. I sure like learning from you on this site. |
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Location: Montana | nance - 2014-01-07 7:55 PM sophiebelle - 2014-01-07 8:44 PM I don't know you other than what advice you give on here. I, for one, appreciate the advice and critiques that you share. I don't see you as coming off as anything than what you are which is helpful. Ditto
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Location: Texas | I like what you have to say :). You have been a help to me before! There's always going to be someone who's not happy about something… just smile and keep on keeping on. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I dont care what anybody says but your a awesome trainer, awesome jockey, awesome teacher  , awesome man. And you have the horses and student's to prove all this, and I dont see you as a know it all at all if thats what your trying to get at. But I see a great horseman that knows his job.. So there, thats my thoughts on you, oh and your a great and funny BB too, love hanging out with you on here.  |
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Location: Florida.. | Southtxponygirl - 2014-01-07 10:56 PM I dont care what anybody says but your a awesome trainer, awesome jockey, awesome teacher , awesome man. And you have the horses and student's to prove all this, and I dont see you as a know it all at all if thats what your trying to get at. But I see a great horseman that knows his job.. So there, thats my thoughts on you, oh and your a great and funny BB too, love hanging out with you on here.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | You make a lot of sense, Andy. I don't know what this is all about, but I have an idea. I always go out of my way to read your posts and critiques, because they make sense and I always learn from them. I think I missed an ugly thread.....which is fortuitous, as far as I'm concerned. Just keep doing what you do. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bibliafarm - 2014-01-07 11:13 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-01-07 10:56 PM I dont care what anybody says but your a awesome trainer, awesome jockey, awesome teacher , awesome man. And you have the horses and student's to prove all this, and I dont see you as a know it all at all if thats what your trying to get at. But I see a great horseman that knows his job.. So there, thats my thoughts on you, oh and your a great and funny BB too, love hanging out with you on here.
Oh And I forgot to say that you have started some really good threads that alot of us can understand too, I really enjoy reading them as I know others do too, so please keep up the good work. |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | May I ask...just who is Andy Cowan? Never heard of him down here in East Texas, though I love his posts, and plan to attend his nearby upcoming clinic! Can ya'll tell me a little about him? |
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I AM being nice
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Location: MD | CrossCreek - 2014-01-07 11:43 PM
May I ask...just who is Andy Cowan? Never heard of him down here in East Texas, though I love his posts, and plan to attend his nearby upcoming clinic! Can ya'll tell me a little about him?
I'll take this opportunity to tell you, in my own words about myself. I grew up experiencing many disciplines. My primary focus for much of my youth was in the hunter and jumper rings. During that time, I also rode All Around horses in the stock breed rings and had access to many successful trainers, in several disciplines, in my area. Myself and my parents have always believed that one can never learn too much and as such, I sought knowledge from those trainers available to me, no matter the discipline. I believe that my diverse background has allowed me to think outside of the box and find different ways of both producing results and getting concepts across to riders of many different learning types.
My primary focus in my riding moved to barrel racing around 15 years old. I still had and showed Hunters and Jumpers, as they were a very popular and lucrative business in So Fl, but my passion had shifted. I purchased a couple of barrel prospects and set out to see what I could get done. Before too long, I found myself enjoying success at the local levels. Along with that, I also began being approached by individuals who were interested in having me ride their horses. When their horses showed progress with me on board, I began being asked to give lessons and help their owners to achieve that same sort of success. It was in this process that I became aware of a new passion. My riding and involvement with horses has been the one constant happiness in my life and I enjoy nothing more than sharing that with others.
Unfortunately, as so often happens, life got in the way of so many things. My situation changed and I sold out of the barrel horse business. I went back to focusing on Hunters and Jumpers in 2002, as they paid much more and that is what I needed to focus on at the time. As much as I loved the sport of barrel racing, I stayed away from it for quite some time. I played with a prospect or two, as the money allowed, but alas, my heart just wasn't in it, as it had once been. It wasn't until a very chance meeting between one of my employees and a special woman that I came back to the sport. Honestly, when I first started riding for Carol and JR Payne, they had no idea that I had ever ran barrels. We had spoken, they had some prospects that they wanted to get a good foundation on and would then send off to be patterened.
As fate would have it, about 2 two months after I started riding for them, Mr JR asked me to get on a young gelding who they had recently brought home from the trainers'. I was riding him around, Carol and JR sitting nearby and decided to have a little fun. While loping circles to the right, I rolled him off of the fence and breezed him through a set. Both of them had stunned looks on their faces and I started laughing. We talked afterward and I was asked to come on and train for them full time. It has been since that day that I have delved back into barrel racing 100%. In the time that I have trained for Mr JR and Miss Carol, I have had my hand in the developing of some very nice horses. Not all of them are 1D mega starts, but they are honest, reliable sorts who go and do their jobs.
Videos of many of those horses can be found on my youtube channel, both with myself and others riders on board.
Little Cata Cool- I brought this mare along from unstarted to the point that she was a rather consistent 2D horse locally, having started her as a 4 yr old, she was running with a Youth by the end of that year and doing well.
The Smashed Doctor- Doc had been sent off to a well respected barrel horse trainer just before I started riding here. He was sent home 60 days later, it being said that he would never make a barrel horse. I finished and seasoned this horse, with many local 1D placings. He has since sold on and gone on to be a very nice horse.
Skips Watch Jo Lady- This mare was sent to me by a client, with only the slightest concept of the pattern and many issues. Through time and patience she has turned around tremendously. Funnily enough, this has become Miss Carol's personal horse of choice. For Miss Carol, this horse has earned Year End Master's 1D saddles, a NBHA Sr 1D State title, ran the 18th fastest time of the 2nd Go of the Srs at this years NBHA World Show and above all, has given her the confidence to get back out there, have fun and be far more successful than she ever has in her barrel racing career. With a Youth rider, this mare has placed in the 2D at Southern States Triple Crown, ran consistently in the 1D money in the Youth locally and ran in the 2D at this year's Youth World.
Many horses have come into my program with issues, or having been running for several years. Most of these horses have improved, issues having been either resolved, or now managed. Horses have moved up divisions. You see, I don't care to be a big name trainer. I much prefer to send horses and riders on their own paths to success. My goal is to do that through proper Horsemanship, a concise, easy to follow training program and thoughtful and encouraging instruction. I hope this gives you a little better idea of who I am. I'm looking forward to meeting you at the clinic!
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | I met Andy in person a couple of years ago. I guess I too missed something ugly. Before I met Andy I always read his advice. Still do. There is nothing as refreshing as a trainer who actually walks you through steps, does an analysis and helps you improve and he doesn't know you from Adam! While we do not talk or see each other regularly be assured that Andy will and does take time for anyone who wants to improve. This old lady hopped on a 14 year old broodmare that is decently bred and never saw a set of cans and has come from the bottom to actually winning an average at a 3 day show. Yes it was the 4d but it is a start. His encouragement from BHW and FB is genuine. I just wish he lived closer to me! |
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| I enjoy reading what you write and have tried a few of your tips with good success. Keep on keeping on! |
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Location: Living in my Promised Land | Andy,
I am not on here every day, so I must have missed the fuss. I always open your posts because I am always looking to learn. You are a very good teacher and have a great eye for a barrel run. Keep up the good work. Linda |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | WrapSnap, I always enjoy your posts.
I'm not on here much anymore but I always read what you have to say. |
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| I feel like you have been hard on your self lately!! I like reading your posts. there a neutral as you can get, just the good old facts no catty mean spirited posts and when your giving advice you actually wanna help not beat the dreamer down. I got love!! |
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Location: Dubach, LA | I am super excited to be coming to your clinic. |
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| If I were close enough, I would definitely attend your clinic. However, second best is to read your posts which I find very informative, positive and in easy to understand language. I think clinics put on by the people who have actually trained horses, and especially fixed lots of problems, are the clinics to attend over someone that is only a good jockey or cannot fix issues.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I think the written word is not always understood as it was intended.  |
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Location: Blissfully happy Giants fan!!! | Andy-I don't know what was said but I reached out to you to do this clinic because your words of wisdom on here is amazing and I have a huge respect for you. Why anyone would be ugly to you I have no idea. I for one am so excited to meet you in person and here what you have to say.
You have a gift-that is clearly evident. And people who have gifts do not need to prove themselves in a huge futurity world. You have clearly already proven yourself.
I already know 100% that bringing you to Texas was the right thing to do and we will all come away better horsepeople because of you. |
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Location: Over by those oil wells, TX | Three 4 Luck - 2014-01-08 9:10 AM I think the written word is not always understood as it was intended.
oh lawdy how true!
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Location: WV | I love how you can explain things so that even I can understand. I am a hands on type person but you do a great job. |
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Location: ND | Andy I really don't think you need to explain yourself. You do not have to be a top futurity trainer or have a bunch of horses make the NFR to know what you are doing. Anyone with horse scence should be able to read the posts you make and KNOW without a doubt in their minds that you are a knowledgable and talented trainer. And not just that, you can communicate with people and take what you know and explain it so that it makes sense to anybody. I wish I had the ability you do, I can ride and train, but I have no ability to teach people. If TX was closer I'd have been the first person signed up for your clinic & I hope some day to be able to ride with you. |
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Location: Over by those oil wells, TX | Andy, You should put together an online book with an index addressing and including all the different categories you've written about through the years and then as time goes on, include updates. I'd buy it! |
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Im on here to learn and I like to learn from people who train and breed, not just buy and ride. |
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| Bibliafarm - 2014-01-08 9:13 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-01-07 10:56 PM I dont care what anybody says but your a awesome trainer, awesome jockey, awesome teacher , awesome man. And you have the horses and student's to prove all this, and I dont see you as a know it all at all if thats what your trying to get at. But I see a great horseman that knows his job.. So there, thats my thoughts on you, oh and your a great and funny BB too, love hanging out with you on here.
I love you. I dream all the time of sending something to you or Guinn. LOL.
Haters gotta hate. Do what I do, give em the California Howdy and move on. |
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| There are an awful lot of really, really good things we can learn from people without the big titles or names. Not everyone has the same goals or talents. An outside pair of eyes no matter how talented can often take a look and find something the most accomplished rider has missed, could change or even do a little differently.
We see so many people feeling they NEED to go to the huge names for clinics, help, etc and that is completley understandable. I mean they are big names for a reason. However not everyone is an EDUCATOR who can explain things in a way that make sense.
Most of us have a whole lot left to learn before its too the point that we NEED the top of the line talent to be able to add anything to our program.
I don't know the person who started this thread but I'm all for going to clinics or trainers where you are a big fish in their pond rather than a small fish in a big pond. In other words if trainers were rated one through ten I'd sure go to a 7 or 8 that was excited to have my horse/my horse was the best one in their barn/they ONLY had a few horses before I'd go to a 10 trainer with a barn full of super horses, a load of "assistants" where my horse was more likely to be lost in the shuffle.
I'm not bad mouthing the big timers, they make their living that way, they NEED to please the return customers who may have the means to bring a little higher talent to the barn. Just saying there is a lot of talent out there that maybe never wanted to go to the big runs or maybe they are better at the practice pen than the big races. Just some food for thought.
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Location: Silver Lake, MN | I love your posts Andy! I love how you put yourself out there for use to look at and learn from as well. I find those posts so very interesting and I can learn a lot. Love all your videos and how broke your horses are. Please continue to post! |
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Location: OH | I too wondered who you were Andy, you're posts on here are so logical that I would find myself saying--Why didn't I think of that. LOL. |
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | I don't run much anymore, so I don't always read all the posts. However, I can say without a doubt, you honestly earned my respect a couple of weeks ago with the way you handled your self on the post about male barrel racers. You showed a lot of restraint and professionalism. You don't need to clarify yourself, just keep doing what you are doing. You have helped a lot of people! |
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Location: Central Montana | Some people can train, some can teach, very few can do both well. From your posts here I can see you can do both.
I've had a horse with a trainer before who knew what he was doing but for him to be able to explain why he did what he did and what the end result he was looking for was a total different matter. Trying to take a lesson with him while he had the horse was a complete waste of time.
One of my friends has a new arena going up. I think you need to come out to Montana and put on a clinic.
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Location: Montana | GoinJettin - 2014-01-08 7:25 PM Some people can train, some can teach, very few can do both well. From your posts here I can see you can do both.
I've had a horse with a trainer before who knew what he was doing but for him to be able to explain why he did what he did and what the end result he was looking for was a total different matter. Trying to take a lesson with him while he had the horse was a complete waste of time.
One of my friends has a new arena going up. I think you need to come out to Montana and put on a clinic.
That would be cool...I'd try to make it to that clinic! |
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| CrossCreek - 2014-01-07 11:43 PM May I ask...just who is Andy Cowan? Never heard of him down here in East Texas, though I love his posts, and plan to attend his nearby upcoming clinic! Can ya'll tell me a little about him?
I know Andy answered this, and I just haven't had a lot of computer time this week. However, I'll tell you that he is someone I trusted enough to give a horse even after I had been burned by others.............for me that is huge. If I raise them, they are my responsibility. I knew that whatever path this filly chose, and she did have some choices to make, he would do right by her. Now, if all works out, I get to meet him and finally get her papers to him. I tend to procrasinate. |
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Location: Oakdale, CA | HotbearLVR - 2014-01-07 9:19 PM You make a lot of sense, Andy. I don't know what this is all about, but I have an idea. I always go out of my way to read your posts and critiques, because they make sense and I always learn from them. I think I missed an ugly thread.....which is fortuitous, as far as I'm concerned. Just keep doing what you do.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I wonder if anyone ever asked Ed Wright how many barrel races he won? LOL |
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| I hope this post is not a result of someone hating on you.
If that is the case-just keep doin' your thang!
It doesn't matter what people say-as long as you are doing what you love.
If people don't see the FREE AWESOME advice that you are always so willing to give, it is their loss.
Regardless of who has what accomplishments-if we all take the time to listen we may be suprised at what we can learn. |
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Location: South Dakota | CarrieH77 - 2014-01-08 11:09 AM
I love your posts Andy! I love how you put yourself out there for use to look at and learn from as well. I find those posts so very interesting and I can learn a lot. Love all your videos and how broke your horses are. Please continue to post!
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| A lot of time people see big names people in the winners circle. Most of the time they did train that horse. There riders, and trainers, most of it time it takes a lot of hours and wet saddle blankets to get a horse with talent to,the winners circle. if you send a decently broke horse to a big name guy at about 1,000.00 a month to get runing barrels you will have about 10k and if your horse does not make it you have the price of the horse and all the training and feed and all that goes with that. So everyone is always trying to shortcut this, but in real life you cant take shortcuts, that is why a lot of horses will not make it then they end up being shuffled around. And just because you arent a jockey and have a 1-d horse doesnot you cant train. I like andy also and he has taken some of those shortcuted horses and improved them. Go andy. |
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Hey y'all, just to clarify....