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Location: Kentucky | We have just completed a steel 30x40 barn and are now building the stalls on the inside. We have been getting those freezing temps and have noticed frost on the metal. As the temps are warming, we have noticed that the roof is creating condesation and is dripping down on us. The floor of the barn is still damp from us moving in dirt. Will this condensation go away once the moisture levels out? Is something I need to be alarmed about? Everything is done on the barn, so we really don't want to start ripping things out. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | If you insulate it, that will prevent the condensation from dripping on you. My barn porch is uninsulated, and it drips every time it thaws, but the main barn stays dry. |
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Location: Georgia | mine does that too.. you will have to insulate the roof. one day i plan to sray foam mine |
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Location: southeast Texas | Yep, need that insulation. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | My brother had his new barn spray foam insulated. It got it so tight it started sweating inside and made it too damp. He had to put more vents and a cupilo on the barn. |
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Midget Lover
Location: Kentucky | Can I just insulate with that stuff you use in the house? |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Murphy - 2014-01-08 8:12 AM Can I just insulate with that stuff you use in the house?
Yes you can. |
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Midget Lover
Location: Kentucky | CYA Ranch - 2014-01-08 9:15 AM Murphy - 2014-01-08 8:12 AM Can I just insulate with that stuff you use in the house? Yes you can.
Ok good. That should make it easier. I just put it inbetween the trusses. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Three 4 Luck - 2014-01-08 7:32 AM If you insulate it, that will prevent the condensation from dripping on you. My barn porch is uninsulated, and it drips every time it thaws, but the main barn stays dry.
Our indoor is fully insulated and it still drips when it's this cold. |
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Midget Lover
Location: Kentucky | rockinas - 2014-01-08 9:44 AM Three 4 Luck - 2014-01-08 7:32 AM If you insulate it, that will prevent the condensation from dripping on you. My barn porch is uninsulated, and it drips every time it thaws, but the main barn stays dry. Our indoor is fully insulated and it still drips when it's this cold.
I didn't know if that had the majority to do with it... it's only dripped when it was below 20 degrees or so. We've been building it since November and it's been pretty chilly out. I will try to talk SO into insultating it anyways. |
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Location: Central California | FYI on using house insulation, it is paper backed, which means that yes it will insulate but then the paper will get wet. Metal sweats, most metal buildings are insulated with a plastic backed insulation. There is a netting that you can use with it that will hold it up against the rafters/beams. There also is a good double sided tape that works well. |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | our barn does it as well and its insulatd to the nuts)it can be -40 outside and our barn will be-9)........ i ws thinking of adding a whirly bird but changed my mind because it would suck out all the warm air....so the conclusion i have come to is...put a big box fan in one corner and get some air movement.........
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Location: South Georgia | The easiest is the foam board-type of insulation. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | rockinas - 2014-01-08 8:44 AM Three 4 Luck - 2014-01-08 7:32 AM If you insulate it, that will prevent the condensation from dripping on you. My barn porch is uninsulated, and it drips every time it thaws, but the main barn stays dry. Our indoor is fully insulated and it still drips when it's this cold.
I have no knowledge of that hellish condition y'all call winter up there. LOL Plus, my barn is very very ventilated because of our summers, and has walkouts for each stall that don't close, so even when I close both roll up doors, it's not closed up. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Three 4 Luck - 2014-01-08 11:09 AM I have no knowledge of that hellish condition y'all call winter up there. LOL Plus, my barn is very very ventilated because of our summers, and has walkouts for each stall that don't close, so even when I close both roll up doors, it's not closed up.
Ours is ventilated too but it still gets condensation in winter. When it's subzero outside and there's moisture in the ground in the building, and animals in there breathing, there just isn't much that can be done.
It was down to 3 degrees above 0 in my barn on Monday which is the coldest it's ever been in there since we built it 4 years ago. Normally the coldest it gets is around 20.
Right now the roof and walls are all frosty. The first day it gets warm enough to thaw that frost, it will be 'raining' in the barn. Then it won't do it again until the next time it gets extremely cold.
But it's annoying when it does happen! |
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Location: Kentucky | rockinas - 2014-01-08 12:48 PM Three 4 Luck - 2014-01-08 11:09 AM I have no knowledge of that hellish condition y'all call winter up there. LOL Plus, my barn is very very ventilated because of our summers, and has walkouts for each stall that don't close, so even when I close both roll up doors, it's not closed up. Ours is ventilated too but it still gets condensation in winter. When it's subzero outside and there's moisture in the ground in the building, and animals in there breathing, there just isn't much that can be done.
It was down to 3 degrees above 0 in my barn on Monday which is the coldest it's ever been in there since we built it 4 years ago. Normally the coldest it gets is around 20.
Right now the roof and walls are all frosty. The first day it gets warm enough to thaw that frost, it will be 'raining' in the barn. Then it won't do it again until the next time it gets extremely cold.
But it's annoying when it does happen!
That's what ours is doing also. It's freezing outside, moisture in the ground, and we are in there working. |
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Location: Here | werope - 2014-01-08 10:34 AM FYI on using house insulation, it is paper backed, which means that yes it will insulate but then the paper will get wet. Metal sweats, most metal buildings are insulated with a plastic backed insulation. There is a netting that you can use with it that will hold it up against the rafters/beams. There also is a good double sided tape that works well. YEP I was going to say the same thing
Shop around the spray foam isn't that expensive and it is quick and easy
And if you don't insulate the beams they can drip too
Edited by SG. 2014-01-08 12:26 PM
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| How much did you pay for the spray foam..would love to do some insulating.
Our horse barn is insulated..no moisture dripping inside at all...some lower boards are frosty. Insulated barn keeps it about 40-50 degrees warmer than the outside. I love it.
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | SG. - 2014-01-08 12:25 PM werope - 2014-01-08 10:34 AM FYI on using house insulation, it is paper backed, which means that yes it will insulate but then the paper will get wet. Metal sweats, most metal buildings are insulated with a plastic backed insulation. There is a netting that you can use with it that will hold it up against the rafters/beams. There also is a good double sided tape that works well. YEP I was going to say the same thing
Shop around the spray foam isn't that expensive and it is quick and easy
And if you don't insulate the beams they can drip too
What do you consider cheap? Our barn is pretty large. |
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| CYA Ranch - 2014-01-08 7:51 AM
My brother had his new barn spray foam insulated. It got it so tight it started sweating inside and made it too damp. He had to put more vents and a cupilo on the barn.
A barn or arena needs to be ventilated to cut down on sickness and moisture ....
if you are frosting up .... get you some fans up in the rafters to dry out the frost before it starts dripping and add you some roof ventilation at the peaks of your barn so air will move out through the roof ....
or some end vents up in the peak of your barn on each end ... you need to move some outside and inside air around or things will begin to rust like crazy ...
Haven't you ever noticed how roads will dry out first if you have a wind or air movement ... same situation inside your barns ...
GOOD LUCK ....
Do not put any kind of fiberglass or sheet foam in a barn .... unless you like rats, mice and birds building nests ..... they love this stuff and so does your dawgs ...
Edited by BARRELHORSE USA 2014-01-08 2:24 PM
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | BARRELHORSE USA - 2014-01-08 2:21 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-01-08 7:51 AM My brother had his new barn spray foam insulated. It got it so tight it started sweating inside and made it too damp. He had to put more vents and a cupilo on the barn. A barn or arena needs to be ventilated to cut down on sickness and moisture .... if you are frosting up .... get you some fans up in the rafters to dry out the frost before it starts dripping and add you some roof ventilation at the peaks of your barn so air will move out through the roof .... or some end vents up in the peak of your barn on each end ... you need to move some outside and inside air around or things will begin to rust like crazy ... Haven't you ever noticed how roads will dry out first if you have a wind or air movement ... same situation inside your barns ... GOOD LUCK .... Do not put any kind of fiberglass or sheet foam in a barn .... unless you like rats, mice and birds building nests ..... they love this stuff and so does your dawgs ...
Which is why I said, "he had to get more vents and a cupilo" |
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| CYA Ranch - 2014-01-08 2:28 PM
BARRELHORSE USA - 2014-01-08 2:21 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-01-08 7:51 AM My brother had his new barn spray foam insulated. It got it so tight it started sweating inside and made it too damp. He had to put more vents and a cupilo on the barn. A barn or arena needs to be ventilated to cut down on sickness and moisture .... if you are frosting up .... get you some fans up in the rafters to dry out the frost before it starts dripping and add you some roof ventilation at the peaks of your barn so air will move out through the roof .... or some end vents up in the peak of your barn on each end ... you need to move some outside and inside air around or things will begin to rust like crazy ... Haven't you ever noticed how roads will dry out first if you have a wind or air movement ... same situation inside your barns ... GOOD LUCK .... Do not put any kind of fiberglass or sheet foam in a barn .... unless you like rats, mice and birds building nests ..... they love this stuff and so does your dawgs ...
GOOD ADVICE ... that is why I gave you a like and quoted your post !!
I just inputted a few more options to get some ventilation in her barn .. lol |
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Midget Lover
Location: Kentucky | BARRELHORSE USA - 2014-01-08 3:37 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-01-08 2:28 PM BARRELHORSE USA - 2014-01-08 2:21 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-01-08 7:51 AM My brother had his new barn spray foam insulated. It got it so tight it started sweating inside and made it too damp. He had to put more vents and a cupilo on the barn. A barn or arena needs to be ventilated to cut down on sickness and moisture .... if you are frosting up .... get you some fans up in the rafters to dry out the frost before it starts dripping and add you some roof ventilation at the peaks of your barn so air will move out through the roof .... or some end vents up in the peak of your barn on each end ... you need to move some outside and inside air around or things will begin to rust like crazy ... Haven't you ever noticed how roads will dry out first if you have a wind or air movement ... same situation inside your barns ... GOOD LUCK .... Do not put any kind of fiberglass or sheet foam in a barn .... unless you like rats, mice and birds building nests ..... they love this stuff and so does your dawgs ... GOOD ADVICE ... that is why I gave you a like and quoted your post !! I just inputted a few more options to get some ventilation in her barn .. lol
Since it's been -30 here, we've kept everything locked up pretty tight. Other than that, we keep the doors open. |
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Location: Here | TurnLane - 2014-01-08 1:33 PM SG. - 2014-01-08 12:25 PM werope - 2014-01-08 10:34 AM FYI on using house insulation, it is paper backed, which means that yes it will insulate but then the paper will get wet. Metal sweats, most metal buildings are insulated with a plastic backed insulation. There is a netting that you can use with it that will hold it up against the rafters/beams. There also is a good double sided tape that works well. YEP I was going to say the same thing
Shop around the spray foam isn't that expensive and it is quick and easy
And if you don't insulate the beams they can drip too
There is always a minimum charge but around $1500 should get most normal barns and it also depends on how thick you want it and if you want color added |
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Location: stalking Gail... | When we had our barn built 8 years ago, the guy used the "house wrap" stuff on my ceiling. No condensation... 8 years without a "leak"... |
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| werope - 2014-01-08 10:34 AM FYI on using house insulation, it is paper backed, which means that yes it will insulate but then the paper will get wet. Metal sweats, most metal buildings are insulated with a plastic backed insulation. There is a netting that you can use with it that will hold it up against the rafters/beams. There also is a good double sided tape that works well.
You can use chicken wire to hold it up too.
I will agree on the paper backed- it'll mildew- waste of money if you ask me. I had an all steel barn before I moved last November and it would sweat but it wasn't a big deal to me lol |
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