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How to explain to a 2 year old......
Lopin' Leopard
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We moved and are selling some of the horses since the new house isn't set up to ride and we can use the money to get it ready. One of the horses is one our 2 yr old claims as hers. The sell of this horse would be a big help financially in getting the property horse friendly.

How would you go about explaining it to a kid? She went with us to an event and someone wanted to try him, I hadn't seen her cry that hard in a long time. And that was just someone trying him!

All our animals are on leased land about 20 minutes away. We maybe make it out once a week. But the horse isn't totally out of sight out of mind

How would you go about telling her we sold the horse?
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Tell her the truth. The money is needed for the family to have a house.

Kids need to learn they aren't the only thing in the world. 2 is young, but again, I imagine she will forget about it in a short time.  Tell her the horse will make someone else very happy and that it is important to do things for others.
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I have no children and that is probably for the best, but can you say, "Horsey went to Heaven?" 
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 Tell her you sell horses sometimes but you don't sell your kids.  My kids thought for a while that they might get sold if they didn't behave...oops.  LOL Other than that, just put it as simply as possible.  This nice family needed a good horse like xxxxx, and we needed money so we could make a place for our other horses to live at home, so we sold him to them.  He will be taken care of and loved there.  Then let the kid process it.  
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I would not sell this horse unless it was a last resort. But that's just my humble opinion. As a child of about that age that watched by dog be given to another child, I never forgot her or the feeling /sight of the new family driving away with her. I'm 62!!! I would give up my own horse first. I don't know your situation I'm not criticizing you at all. If the horse is already gone I would just never take her out there again. Maybe she'll forget in time since she didn't see it leave. Best wishes!
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wyoming barrel racer - 2014-01-10 2:02 PM

Tell her the truth. The money is needed for the family to have a house.

Kids need to learn they aren't the only thing in the world. 2 is young, but again, I imagine she will forget about it in a short time.  Tell her the horse will make someone else very happy and that it is important to do things for others.

This! Kids are more resilient than we tend to think.

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wyoming barrel racer - 2014-01-10 2:02 PM

Tell her the truth. The money is needed for the family to have a house.

Kids need to learn they aren't the only thing in the world. 2 is young, but again, I imagine she will forget about it in a short time.  Tell her the horse will make someone else very happy and that it is important to do things for others.

I don't have children of my own, but I agree with all of this.
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LRQHS - 2014-01-10 2:05 PM I have no children and that is probably for the best, but can you say, "Horsey went to Heaven?" 

My luck I would say this, then we'd see those folks at a show and my kids would be scarred for life with trust issues  
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We do have other horses she can ride and can hopefully get her switched over. We also have a 5 year old daughter who has a gelding she's been riding since she was 2. I know she fully understands what selling means and would not forget/forgive. That's what makes it hard with the 2 year old. I'm not sure how much she feeds off of/copies older sister.
The sale of the horse would get the horses home by fall, probably a whole year sooner then if we held on to him. We can't justify keeping a horse for a kid to ride a couple times a month. We're not even riding/competing ourselves since there is no place to practice (husband cuts) or keep one conditioned (for barrels). We are selling and will start over when ready. We will keep the stud and other gelding and have two leased mares due to foal this year.
The new house wasn't in the plans. The guy we were buying the old house from (owner contract) let the house go back to the bank. So we got what best suited us, in a pinch, for what we could afford.
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barrelracr131 - 2014-01-10 2:19 PM
LRQHS - 2014-01-10 2:05 PM I have no children and that is probably for the best, but can you say, "Horsey went to Heaven?" 
My luck I would say this, then we'd see those folks at a show and my kids would be scarred for life with trust issues  

 Well, scratch that then....back to brain storming......
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We tell our 4 year old daughter the truth about the animals. I agree it needs to be on their level, but we feel as parents that it is best to be honest with her. She does not forget the animals or what happened to each and every one of them. Good luck with your decisions. I know it is a very hard decision.
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Lopin' Leopard - 2014-01-10 2:25 PM

We do have other horses she can ride and can hopefully get her switched over. We also have a 5 year old daughter who has a gelding she's been riding since she was 2. I know she fully understands what selling means and would not forget/forgive. That's what makes it hard with the 2 year old. I'm not sure how much she feeds off of/copies older sister.
The sale of the horse would get the horses home by fall, probably a whole year sooner then if we held on to him. We can't justify keeping a horse for a kid to ride a couple times a month. We're not even riding/competing ourselves since there is no place to practice (husband cuts) or keep one conditioned (for barrels). We are selling and will start over when ready. We will keep the stud and other gelding and have two leased mares due to foal this year.
The new house wasn't in the plans. The guy we were buying the old house from (owner contract) let the house go back to the bank. So we got what best suited us, in a pinch, for what we could afford.

Well that's a little better take on it since she has something else to move on to. My granddaughter has 'stepped up ' to a younger faster horse several times. It's hard to get the call that the old one passed. But she got the new one first then the old one went to good homes with younger rider. So that helped. When you said she cried so hard that's what got to me!!
You have to do what's best for your family.
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BamaCanChaser - 2014-01-10 3:16 PM
wyoming barrel racer - 2014-01-10 2:02 PM Tell her the truth. The money is needed for the family to have a house.

Kids need to learn they aren't the only thing in the world. 2 is young, but again, I imagine she will forget about it in a short time.  Tell her the horse will make someone else very happy and that it is important to do things for others.
I don't have children of my own, but I agree with all of this.
Ditto. There is no way I'd let a 2 year dictate what we sold and kept. 

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Murphy - 2014-01-10 1:42 PM

BamaCanChaser - 2014-01-10 3:16 PM
wyoming barrel racer - 2014-01-10 2:02 PM Tell her the truth. The money is needed for the family to have a house.

Kids need to learn they aren't the only thing in the world. 2 is young, but again, I imagine she will forget about it in a short time.  Tell her the horse will make someone else very happy and that it is important to do things for others.
I don't have children of my own, but I agree with all of this.
Ditto. There is no way I'd let a 2 year dictate what we sold and kept. 

agreed.
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Murphy - 2014-01-10 12:42 PM

BamaCanChaser - 2014-01-10 3:16 PM
wyoming barrel racer - 2014-01-10 2:02 PM Tell her the truth. The money is needed for the family to have a house.

Kids need to learn they aren't the only thing in the world. 2 is young, but again, I imagine she will forget about it in a short time.  Tell her the horse will make someone else very happy and that it is important to do things for others.
I don't have children of my own, but I agree with all of this.
Ditto. There is no way I'd let a 2 year dictate what we sold and kept. 

Oh no! She's not deciding what we get to keep and sell. I'm just wondering the best way to explain it to her so there are the least amount of hurt feelings and she wont be scarred for life and forgive us lol
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shelltc - 2014-01-11 1:07 PM I would not sell this horse unless it was a last resort. But that's just my humble opinion. As a child of about that age that watched by dog be given to another child, I never forgot her or the feeling /sight of the new family driving away with her. I'm 62!!! I would give up my own horse first. I don't know your situation I'm not criticizing you at all. If the horse is already gone I would just never take her out there again. Maybe she'll forget in time since she didn't see it leave. Best wishes!

 I agree with this 100%.  If you think there is any way that you can explain this to a 2 yr. old and they are going to understand it - you are wrong.  The only thing the kid will feel is hurt and loss.  I was about 10 yrs old when my horse was sold so that my mom could build a new house.  I was devestated and held resentment for a long time over it and would never do that to a child of mine if there were any way to avoid it.
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Lopin' Leopard - 2014-01-10 1:53 PM
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wyoming barrel racer - 2014-01-10 2:02 PM Tell her the truth. The money is needed for the family to have a house.



Kids need to learn they aren't the only thing in the world. 2 is young, but again, I imagine she will forget about it in a short time.  Tell her the horse will make someone else very happy and that it is important to do things for others.
I don't have children of my own, but I agree with all of this.
Ditto. There is no way I'd let a 2 year dictate what we sold and kept. 
Oh no! She's not deciding what we get to keep and sell. I'm just wondering the best way to explain it to her so there are the least amount of hurt feelings and she wont be scarred for life and forgive us lol

Will she have her own room? Or something like that to excite her? I didn't mean you have to be hard with her, but kids appreciate the truth more than we know.

My dad would always tell me how or why my kittens or dog died. He didn't sugar coat it as much as he maybe could have, but he didn't leave a bunch of questions either. When we had to put our stud down, my then 4yr old was wondering about it. I told him how his feet were ruined and he couldn't stand and he couldn't survive laying down all the time. He was upset, but he understood. Same as when a weanling broker her leg and I had to have her shot asap. He knows we don't let critters suffer. Just tell the truth, but don't drag on about it either and make it a big deal. Just my advice. 
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just a question and i dont mean for it to sound harsh, but how many of you actually remember at 2yrs old, your parents selling anything on you? at 2yrs old would you remember the horse in a few years down the road? There is probably no way to actually explain to her that you need to sell the horse that she will understand, she will be hurt no matter what but i bet she will get over it and not hold a grudge for many years.
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shelltc - 2014-01-11 1:07 PM I would not sell this horse unless it was a last resort. But that's just my humble opinion. As a child of about that age that watched by dog be given to another child, I never forgot her or the feeling /sight of the new family driving away with her. I'm 62!!! I would give up my own horse first. I don't know your situation I'm not criticizing you at all. If the horse is already gone I would just never take her out there again. Maybe she'll forget in time since she didn't see it leave. Best wishes!

 I agree with this 100%.  If you think there is any way that you can explain this to a 2 yr. old and they are going to understand it - you are wrong.  The only thing the kid will feel is hurt and loss.  I was about 10 yrs old when my horse was sold so that my mom could build a new house.  I was devestated and held resentment for a long time over it and would never do that to a child of mine if there were any way to avoid it.

Children need to learn how to cope with hurt and loss. I'm not saying your view is wrong but we, as parents, can't shield them from pain forever. They need to know that they are going to feel pain and sadness and they need to know that they will still be ok. It's better to teach them these lessons when we are still around to help them through it. She'll claim another horse a few weeks or months, maybe even days, after this and forget about the sadness she felt.

Tell the truth! You might let her be apart of it. Explain that she has a very important job to do, that she needs to let the new owners know what the horse likes and dislikes and since its her horse she can teach them how to ride him. This might help a little. She doesn't need to be there when they actually haul him off. Good luck to the OP it's going to be hard for everyone!
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shelltc - 2014-01-11 1:07 PM I would not sell this horse unless it was a last resort. But that's just my humble opinion. As a child of about that age that watched by dog be given to another child, I never forgot her or the feeling /sight of the new family driving away with her. I'm 62!!! I would give up my own horse first. I don't know your situation I'm not criticizing you at all. If the horse is already gone I would just never take her out there again. Maybe she'll forget in time since she didn't see it leave. Best wishes!
 I agree with this 100%.  If you think there is any way that you can explain this to a 2 yr. old and they are going to understand it - you are wrong.  The only thing the kid will feel is hurt and loss.  I was about 10 yrs old when my horse was sold so that my mom could build a new house.  I was devestated and held resentment for a long time over it and would never do that to a child of mine if there were any way to avoid it.

Why should a family have a financial burdon just so a child doesn't shed tears? Life is not roses, best they learn it young. It won't scar her and cause life long therapy. If it does, there is more going on. Yes it will hurt, but shouldn't cause resentment unless the kiddo is already a little spoiled and thinking her world should never be rocked.

Funny story, I was raised by my dad. I had a cousin a few years older tell me the Easter bunny and Santa all were fake. I asked my dad about it and was old enough he said it was true. So she had imbedded the seed of doubt and trust. She then told me I was adopted. I freaked and asked my dad. He said no (and I am not) but I bet it took a year or so for me to quit wondering. Older kids are nasty lol. Point of the story, I have never needed therapy :
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Karlaw - 2014-01-10 3:06 PM just a question and i dont mean for it to sound harsh, but how many of you actually remember at 2yrs old, your parents selling anything on you? at 2yrs old would you remember the horse in a few years down the road? There is probably no way to actually explain to her that you need to sell the horse that she will understand, she will be hurt no matter what but i bet she will get over it and not hold a grudge for many years.
 I don't. I have 3 or 4 memories when I was 5. Like the first day of Kindergarten, getting my hair cut.......but, nothing from before then.

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I said I would not do it unless there was no way around it.  Sometimes parents get so caught up in material things for their family they forget about the importance of security.  This horse may very well be a part of this child's security.  My horse was everything to me, my best friend.  To my mother, it was money better spent on the house.  As an adult, I understand where she was coming from.  As I kid, I hated her for it for a very long time.  Say what you want, this child will not understand this on an adult level.   
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Karlaw - 2014-01-10 3:06 PM just a question and i dont mean for it to sound harsh, but how many of you actually remember at 2yrs old, your parents selling anything on you? at 2yrs old would you remember the horse in a few years down the road? There is probably no way to actually explain to her that you need to sell the horse that she will understand, she will be hurt no matter what but i bet she will get over it and not hold a grudge for many years.
 I don't. I have 3 or 4 memories when I was 5. Like the first day of Kindergarten, getting my hair cut.......but, nothing from before then.

Im thinking the same thing, I remember when my mom gave me a mushroom cut... that is my first terrifying memory lol
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Hollywood's Fan - 2014-01-10 2:12 PM I said I would not do it unless there was no way around it.  Sometimes parents get so caught up in material things for their family they forget about the importance of security.  This horse may very well be a part of this child's security.  My horse was everything to me, my best friend.  To my mother, it was money better spent on the house.  As an adult, I understand where she was coming from.  As I kid, I hated her for it for a very long time.  Say what you want, this child will not understand this on an adult level.   

You have some good points as far as if the family is using it for selfish reasons. It sounds like with the house and no where to even ride the horse, it just isn't feasable to have them. If they can be kept sounds like they would. The kid probably won't understand, but it won't be a lasting thing forever. My kids at 2 would have a fine distraction if they were given a new gold fish or candy bar. I guess at 2, I haven't seen too many so attached to a critter they would understand it gone. Now my 5yr old lost a favorite kitten and it still bothers him, but he was around it all the time and played outside daily with it. 
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Karlaw - 2014-01-10 3:06 PM just a question and i dont mean for it to sound harsh, but how many of you actually remember at 2yrs old, your parents selling anything on you? at 2yrs old would you remember the horse in a few years down the road? There is probably no way to actually explain to her that you need to sell the horse that she will understand, she will be hurt no matter what but i bet she will get over it and not hold a grudge for many years.
 I don't. I have 3 or 4 memories when I was 5. Like the first day of Kindergarten, getting my hair cut.......but, nothing from before then.
Im thinking the same thing, I remember when my mom gave me a mushroom cut... that is my first terrifying memory lol

 We call it a bowl haircut lol.....it looks like they put a bowl on your head and cut around it.......that was my Kindergarten haircut too and it was traumatic lol....
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I said I would not do it unless there was no way around it.  Sometimes parents get so caught up in material things for their family they forget about the importance of security.  This horse may very well be a part of this child's security.  My horse was everything to me, my best friend.  To my mother, it was money better spent on the house.  As an adult, I understand where she was coming from.  As I kid, I hated her for it for a very long time.  Say what you want, this child will not understand this on an adult level.   

You also said you were 10 yo at the time. To me, there is a monumental difference in a 10 yo and a 2yo. 10 yo's are starting to brink puberty, they can tend to a little more "oh my the world is falling, everyone is out to get me, my mother hates me" than a 2 yo. They have a lot more emotions than a 2 yo.

No, the 2yo will not understand this on an adult level, but to say that she will be scarred for life is a bit dramatic.
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We have several horses, and several kids. The kids ride my horses. Cuts down on the confusion when one has to go.
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Thank you all for your input, it's greatly appreciated.  I can remember my first horse and when my parents sold it, I htink I was about 5.  I went with them to drop her off.  She intimidated me, for I dont know what reason, just woke up scared of her one day.
I know she wont be scarred for life, I never thought one so young could get attached, that's why I wonder how much is coping her sister.  When her sister was that age she was happy to ride anything!
I don't think he is a security thing. I think (hoping) it's sister has "her" horse (that's really mine) and so she has "hers". They have play horses and go around play riding these two specific horses.
It was the way she cried when that other person got on him.......

For fun here is a video of her riding him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcsxdSXYHNk
 
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shelltc - 2014-01-11 1:07 PM I would not sell this horse unless it was a last resort. But that's just my humble opinion. As a child of about that age that watched by dog be given to another child, I never forgot her or the feeling /sight of the new family driving away with her. I'm 62!!! I would give up my own horse first. I don't know your situation I'm not criticizing you at all. If the horse is already gone I would just never take her out there again. Maybe she'll forget in time since she didn't see it leave. Best wishes!
 I agree with this 100%.  If you think there is any way that you can explain this to a 2 yr. old and they are going to understand it - you are wrong.  The only thing the kid will feel is hurt and loss.  I was about 10 yrs old when my horse was sold so that my mom could build a new house.  I was devestated and held resentment for a long time over it and would never do that to a child of mine if there were any way to avoid it.

Why should a family have a financial burdon just so a child doesn't shed tears? Life is not roses, best they learn it young. It won't scar her and cause life long therapy. If it does, there is more going on. Yes it will hurt, but shouldn't cause resentment unless the kiddo is already a little spoiled and thinking her world should never be rocked.

Funny story, I was raised by my dad. I had a cousin a few years older tell me the Easter bunny and Santa all were fake. I asked my dad about it and was old enough he said it was true. So she had imbedded the seed of doubt and trust. She then told me I was adopted. I freaked and asked my dad. He said no (and I am not) but I bet it took a year or so for me to quit wondering. Older kids are nasty lol. Point of the story, I have never needed therapy :

By "last resort" I mean if they HAVE to sell because of financial reasons , to have a home etc. then that's the way it is. But if there was an alternative I would keep the child's horse. The op stated that she never saw the child cry so hard!! What are the lease mares for? do they generate income? I've got two grown children and five grands (4 are little girls !! 10,6,2,1)and I'm just tenderhearted that way! But as I said before it does help that she has something else she can ride. So maybe it won't be so bad.
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Hollywood's Fan - 2014-01-10 1:59 PM
shelltc - 2014-01-11 1:07 PM I would not sell this horse unless it was a last resort. But that's just my humble opinion. As a child of about that age that watched by dog be given to another child, I never forgot her or the feeling /sight of the new family driving away with her. I'm 62!!! I would give up my own horse first. I don't know your situation I'm not criticizing you at all. If the horse is already gone I would just never take her out there again. Maybe she'll forget in time since she didn't see it leave. Best wishes!
 I agree with this 100%.  If you think there is any way that you can explain this to a 2 yr. old and they are going to understand it - you are wrong.  The only thing the kid will feel is hurt and loss.  I was about 10 yrs old when my horse was sold so that my mom could build a new house.  I was devestated and held resentment for a long time over it and would never do that to a child of mine if there were any way to avoid it.

Why should a family have a financial burdon just so a child doesn't shed tears? Life is not roses, best they learn it young. It won't scar her and cause life long therapy. If it does, there is more going on. Yes it will hurt, but shouldn't cause resentment unless the kiddo is already a little spoiled and thinking her world should never be rocked.

Funny story, I was raised by my dad. I had a cousin a few years older tell me the Easter bunny and Santa all were fake. I asked my dad about it and was old enough he said it was true. So she had imbedded the seed of doubt and trust. She then told me I was adopted. I freaked and asked my dad. He said no (and I am not) but I bet it took a year or so for me to quit wondering. Older kids are nasty lol. Point of the story, I have never needed therapy :

By "last resort" I mean if they HAVE to sell because of financial reasons , to have a home etc. then that's the way it is. But if there was an alternative I would keep the child's horse. The op stated that she never saw the child cry so hard!! What are the lease mares for? do they generate income? I've got two grown children and five grands (4 are little girls !! 10,6,2,1)and I'm just tenderhearted that way! But as I said before it does help that she has something else she can ride. So maybe it won't be so bad.
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I would just simply say "horse had to go bye-bye to a new home." Lol. I have two kids similar in age (3 & 6), can't you tell? :). Being a two-year-old and only seeing horse once a week, she'll recover fast...especially with other horses to ride. Like someone else said, I personally don't remember anything as a 2-yr-old!





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 My daughter was 3 when I bought her her own first horse. He was 24 at the time. She had seen me buy and sell so many horses, even one that I had intended to give to her (and she knew it) that she worried at first that I would sell him too. I promised her he would die with us. They both deserve that and I will absolutely keep my word. But that's a totally different situation. And when I sold "her" mare, she wasn't very happy about it but she got over it. Especially after getting one that was hers for real. 
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LRQHS - 2014-01-10 2:05 PM I have no children and that is probably for the best, but can you say, "Horsey went to Heaven?" 

That doesn't work the other way around either. My first pony died while I was at school... they told me they sold her cause they didn't want to tell me she died. I remembered that for years, and I was about 20 when I finally got it out of them what really happened to my pony. Then I was mad that they lied to me about it. Every horse I got I thought I was going to come home from school and it was going to be gone cause they sold it.

Probably because of that I have told my son the truth about what happens to his animals. If they died, they died and we talk about it. When we were putting his horse down 2 years ago I told him, and he got to tell him good bye. If I am selling them, I tell him. If we are going to eat them, I tell him. 

I think the truth is the best way with stuff like this. It doesn't always spare his feelings, and he usually cries (Hell so do I)... but he understands now that death, raising animals for meat, and having to sell things are just part of life (doesn't make it easier, but he understands).  Now he is dealing with loss in the family, a cousin last month and a grandma in hospice right now. He understands what is happening, and it is easier for me to warn him when people aren't doing well. 

She is 2 so I wouldn't really go into detail, but you can explain it to her enough for her to understand. 
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Lopin' Leopard - 2014-01-10 4:05 PM

Thank you all for your input, it's greatly appreciated.  I can remember my first horse and when my parents sold it, I htink I was about 5.  I went with them to drop her off.  She intimidated me, for I dont know what reason, just woke up scared of her one day.
I know she wont be scarred for life, I never thought one so young could get attached, that's why I wonder how much is coping her sister.  When her sister was that age she was happy to ride anything!
I don't think he is a security thing. I think (hoping) it's sister has "her" horse (that's really mine) and so she has "hers". They have play horses and go around play riding these two specific horses.
It was the way she cried when that other person got on him.......

For fun here is a video of her riding him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcsxdSXYHNk
 

I have a two year old daughter and I can tell you she is absolutely attached to her pony and the colt we had born at the house last May. She rides or brushes her pony almost everyday and helps with feeding him in the afternoons. Every morning and every night when we get home she asks if we fed and watered "her baby". She is an only child so there is no feeding off the emotions of another sibling.

Her pony got very sick in December. She went to the vet with me because I didn't have anyone to watch her and heard everything the vet said. I had to explain to her that her pony may not be coming home. That was hard. We don't shelter her from death. She has never seen us kill an animal but she has been there for the rest of the processing. She understood that she may not have gotten to see her pony after that day and it broke her heart. I can still see the tears and the look on her face. It was heart breaking for me to see her in so much emotional pain. (The pony is alive and doing well!)

The colt, we are most likely going to sell in the near future. He is going to be much to small to be of use to us. When my husband and I talk about it around her she gets very upset. We have bought and sold horses before and she understands when they are sold they are gone but has never had an attachment to the ones that have left. She cries and tells us we can't sell "her baby". I have decided that when I find a potential buyer she will not be present for any part of the sell. The colt will just be gone and when she asks about it I will tell her the colt went to live with another family who will love him and take great care of him. I think it will be easier to explain that the horse went to a new home while she was gone than to explain why people are coming and taking "her baby" away (if that makes any sense at all).

I hope this helps. I do believe that two year olds form strong bonds with animals. I know that some people do have memories from when they were two, my sister remembers traumatic events from when she was two like when our dog was ran over and killed and when a turkey chased and cornered her (She is 25 and still scared to death of turkeys). I also think we as parents have to do what we have to do to make life good for our children. If selling the horse is what has to be done then there is no other option. There will be tears for a while and your baby may have questions. Answer them truthfully.
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Hollywood's Fan - 2014-01-10 4:12 PM

I said I would not do it unless there was no way around it.  Sometimes parents get so caught up in material things for their family they forget about the importance of security.  This horse may very well be a part of this child's security.  My horse was everything to me, my best friend.  To my mother, it was money better spent on the house.  As an adult, I understand where she was coming from.  As I kid, I hated her for it for a very long time.  Say what you want, this child will not understand this on an adult level.   

 My parents owned a really cool Chevy dually when I was little. We did everything with that truck, and I do mean EVERYTHING. I remember the plush burgundy upholstery and real wood accents, fancy interior lights, and even the sound of the engine. Some of my fondest early childhood memories involved that truck in some capacity. My parents had to sell it. The day that the new owner came to take it away was one of the saddest days of my life. I mean, it is still right up there with the deaths of several pets, and numerous close family members. I'll never forget that day for as long as I live. I forgave my parents a long time ago, but I'll never forget it. I have a framed picture of the truck sitting on the dresser in my room. But, that was me and it wasn't a living thing. LOL
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 I was around 2 when my mom sold her mare. This horse hated my guts and tried to kill me, she thought I was a dog. She tried to kill them too!  My mom said see ya!! I was there when the trailer pulled up and they loaded her and off she went. I cried.  But I don't remember being upset other than that.  I was upset cause a horse was leaving, but my mom couldn't figure out why, since said horse tried to attack me on several occasions, even coming at me thru the stall bars. I don't remember any of that.
Tell you kid a reason, she might be upset but if she's got other horses to play with (I had my pony and other horses) she'll be fine. 
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cyount2009 - 2014-01-10 2:35 PM

Lopin' Leopard - 2014-01-10 4:05 PM

Thank you all for your input, it's greatly appreciated.  I can remember my first horse and when my parents sold it, I htink I was about 5.  I went with them to drop her off.  She intimidated me, for I dont know what reason, just woke up scared of her one day.
I know she wont be scarred for life, I never thought one so young could get attached, that's why I wonder how much is coping her sister.  When her sister was that age she was happy to ride anything!
I don't think he is a security thing. I think (hoping) it's sister has "her" horse (that's really mine) and so she has "hers". They have play horses and go around play riding these two specific horses.
It was the way she cried when that other person got on him.......

For fun here is a video of her riding him.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcsxdSXYHNk
 

I have a two year old daughter and I can tell you she is absolutely attached to her pony and the colt we had born at the house last May. She rides or brushes her pony almost everyday and helps with feeding him in the afternoons. Every morning and every night when we get home she asks if we fed and watered "her baby". She is an only child so there is no feeding off the emotions of another sibling.

Her pony got very sick in December. She went to the vet with me because I didn't have anyone to watch her and heard everything the vet said. I had to explain to her that her pony may not be coming home. That was hard. We don't shelter her from death. She has never seen us kill an animal but she has been there for the rest of the processing. She understood that she may not have gotten to see her pony after that day and it broke her heart. I can still see the tears and the look on her face. It was heart breaking for me to see her in so much emotional pain. (The pony is alive and doing well!)

The colt, we are most likely going to sell in the near future. He is going to be much to small to be of use to us. When my husband and I talk about it around her she gets very upset. We have bought and sold horses before and she understands when they are sold they are gone but has never had an attachment to the ones that have left. She cries and tells us we can't sell "her baby". I have decided that when I find a potential buyer she will not be present for any part of the sell. The colt will just be gone and when she asks about it I will tell her the colt went to live with another family who will love him and take great care of him. I think it will be easier to explain that the horse went to a new home while she was gone than to explain why people are coming and taking "her baby" away (if that makes any sense at all).

I hope this helps. I do believe that two year olds form strong bonds with animals. I know that some people do have memories from when they were two, my sister remembers traumatic events from when she was two like when our dog was ran over and killed and when a turkey chased and cornered her (She is 25 and still scared to death of turkeys). I also think we as parents have to do what we have to do to make life good for our children. If selling the horse is what has to be done then there is no other option. There will be tears for a while and your baby may have questions. Answer them truthfully.

This is what I have been thinking would be the best route. That we'd go out to check on them and when she asked, tell her he went to a new home for someone else to ride, and now she can start riding so and so.

We have had a couple people come out to try him, we don't take her, and a gal that came out today is very serious about him. That's why I figured I'd ask since he will be re-homed soon. We have not said a word to her and if it's brought up in front of them we spell it out.

Glad to hear the pony is doing better! Our kids know about death, their dad is a hunter. Not too worried about that hill when we hit it.
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I sympathize with you. I have two sons 2 and 4. I was raised in a home that raised dogs and it was hard to see them go to new homes. But my parents always told me "that we do the best with and for our animals so that they can go on to make other people happy. This should make you feel good to know that your animal made some one else so happy." I was hard to see them go sometimes but it did make me feel better to know someone else was happy. I personally don't think that money is important to a two yr old and may make them misunderstand the meaning of earning money for the thing we need, not just get rid of things that mean a lot to us just for money. JMO Good luck I'm sure there will be tears but maybe you can redirect with something else to try to easy them.
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Three 4 Luck - 2014-01-10 12:07 PM  Tell her you sell horses sometimes but you don't sell your kids.  My kids thought for a while that they might get sold if they didn't behave...oops.  LOL Other than that, just put it as simply as possible.  This nice family needed a good horse like xxxxx, and we needed money so we could make a place for our other horses to live at home, so we sold him to them.  He will be taken care of and loved there.  Then let the kid process it.  

 I like this!
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I sold one once thinking he was only 2 it would blow over. Well he just turned 5 and still askes for her for his birthday and Christmas and stills tells me it is the only horse he will ever love. Bought him a different one and it is just not the same to him. He still talks about he daily and truly wish I would not have sold the horse.
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BamaCanChaser - 2014-01-11 2:23 PM
Hollywood's Fan - 2014-01-10 3:12 PM I said I would not do it unless there was no way around it.  Sometimes parents get so caught up in material things for their family they forget about the importance of security.  This horse may very well be a part of this child's security.  My horse was everything to me, my best friend.  To my mother, it was money better spent on the house.  As an adult, I understand where she was coming from.  As I kid, I hated her for it for a very long time.  Say what you want, this child will not understand this on an adult level.   
You also said you were 10 yo at the time. To me, there is a monumental difference in a 10 yo and a 2yo. 10 yo's are starting to brink puberty, they can tend to a little more "oh my the world is falling, everyone is out to get me, my mother hates me" than a 2 yo. They have a lot more emotions than a 2 yo. No, the 2yo will not understand this on an adult level, but to say that she will be scarred for life is a bit dramatic.
Yes, I was 10 at the time and I would agree that it would seem that a child at 10 would take it harder than a child at 2.  But, we adopted my daughter at 18 mo. of age.  Her birth mother left her alone much of the time, and did not care for her well at all (she was a drug user).  Still at 18 months old when the birth mother said goodbye to her, the child was devestated.  It took her years to feel secure.  She would cry everytime I left thinking that I wasn't coming back.   Children get attached to animals the same way and that is what I met when I was talking about security.  Taking away a beloved pet could have a similar impact on a two year old.   The OP said that this child cried hysterically because someone else was riding (trying) the horse.  Why is it difficult to see that it could be a negative impact on her?  If it is absolutely necessary, than the family is just going to have to get through it.  My only point is that if I didn't have to sell the child's horse, I would not do it.    No where in my post did I say that I thought she would be scarred for life, so please, don't  react to a comment that I didn't make.

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