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I Am a Snake Killer
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Thinking about using them on hind feet. Has anyone had soreness issues from this? I use regular rims on front now with plain steel on back. Colt is having trouble with ground, basically slipping coming out of the turn. If you use the Eventer shoes what type of ground do you normally run in? Thanks. |
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Location: Gainesville, TX | I would be curious as to responses about this too. My vet recommended Eventing shoes for my boy. |
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| I have used Eventer shoes on the back for horses that need more support of the hoof. They are quite wide and cover much more of the foot. I would not recommend them for a horse needing more traction. In fact I found them to be somewhat slick because they are so wide. |
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I Am a Snake Killer
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | summers - 2014-01-13 1:18 PM
I have used Eventer shoes on the back for horses that need more support of the hoof. They are quite wide and cover much more of the foot. I would not recommend them for a horse needing more traction. In fact I found them to be somewhat slick because they are so wide.
Hmmmm. From what Ive heard the toes are rolled and do have a rim except for the very back of the shoe. I was told they do give a little more traction without the issues of a regular rim shoe. What kind of ground do you run on mostly? |
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| We usually run on sand and they were ok to use. If on a hard racetrack arena it could get scary. Almost like ice skates. |
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Location: New Mexico | I use Eventers on all four never had a problem, my farrier shoes natural balance. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | I agree with Summers, I had a novice colt last year I tried several different shoes. The Eventers where not right for him. I've not run him enough in the Elite's to give an opinion. They are slimmer in the heel. In practice on slick clay he stood up fine. At the Elite race he seemed to handle the ground ok. I'll have more of an opinion after the winter run here in TX.
Oops! I have Triumphs on the rear not elites. Sorry, they are steel and much lighter than the eventers. My horse wears a 2 on the hind. He works hard with his hindquarters on 2 and 3. In the eventers he was jumping up out of the finish on the backside. I will give the triumph a chance till early spring at least. I run alum. Up front. I hope we've helped you some. Truthfully, each horse is their own individual and you have to have a shoer that can treat them that way.
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Location: Along the Caney River | I started using the eventers on the back of my horse to help get traction. He is big 16.1 1/2 hands and heavy made. He would slide in the back end when trying to leave the turn. The eventers have been great. I run on rodeo ground... hard, deep, sand, hard pan,,,, you name it. As far as the shoe being really wide mine are not! The have what I call a half rim on the toe and the last 1 inch or so towards the heal is slick. They are not extra wides! I use lite rims on the front. Since using the eventer my horse has not had as much body soreness as before and his is turning better. My horse gets on his but to turn and now stays down coming out of the turn where before he would stand up to soon leaving the barrel which caused him to loose time. I would recommend the eventer on the hind. |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | barrelsnropes - 2014-01-13 3:57 PM
I started using the eventers on the back of my horse to help get traction. He is big 16.1 1/2 hands and heavy made. He would slide in the back end when trying to leave the turn. The eventers have been great. I run on rodeo ground... hard, deep, sand, hard pan,,,, you name it. As far as the shoe being really wide mine are not! The have what I call a half rim on the toe and the last 1 inch or so towards the heal is slick. They are not extra wides! I use lite rims on the front. Since using the eventer my horse has not had as much body soreness as before and his is turning better. My horse gets on his but to turn and now stays down coming out of the turn where before he would stand up to soon leaving the barrel which caused him to loose time. I would recommend the eventer on the hind.
Sounds exactly like my colt. He is big also 16.1. He gets really low going into the turn and on back side his rear keeps slipping. Almost fell this weekend. Even if I lope he turns so hard he will still slip in his rear end. The ones I was looking at are not the wide ones either. I was also going to leave the regular rims on front. Thanks for the replies. |
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| Be carefull as,they do have more traction and can cause more tork on your hocks stifles, especially for butt dragging type horses. It can make them sore. I dont run on rodeo ground. |
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Location: NW MT | Are you talking about the shoes that are called Eventers OR types of shoes that eventers usually use? |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Rockyroad - 2014-01-13 8:38 PM
Are you talking about the shoes that are called Eventers OR types of shoes that eventers usually use?
Shoes that are called EVENTERS. |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | daisycake123 - 2014-01-13 8:25 PM
Be carefull as,they do have more traction and can cause more tork on your hocks stifles, especially for butt dragging type horses. It can make them sore. I dont run on rodeo ground.
That's kind of what Im worried about. He drops really low but doesn't drag his butt so to speak. He loses/slips in the rear end when leaving the barrel. Which has to be hard on the stifles and hocks also. I feel like i'm between a rock and a hard place. |
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Location: Mi | I used eventers for quite a few years on my mare. I run a lot of rodeos (which up here where I'm at are usually hard, trashy ground) and also some jackpots which the ground is usually pretty good at. I started having problems with summer with her, she was firing a lot harder then what she had been in the rodeo pens the eventers would not hold her at all. The jackpot pens, she could stand up, but wasn't running like she had, you could feel her skating (the best way I can describe it) around, not falling but definitly not able to really go anywehre. I did a lot of talking, and investigating and ended up going with the level grips and had wonderful luck with then so far. |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | Ahmac - 2014-01-14 12:06 PM
I used eventers for quite a few years on my mare. I run a lot of rodeos (which up here where I'm at are usually hard, trashy ground) and also some jackpots which the ground is usually pretty good at. I started having problems with summer with her, she was firing a lot harder then what she had been in the rodeo pens the eventers would not hold her at all. The jackpot pens, she could stand up, but wasn't running like she had, you could feel her skating (the best way I can describe it) around, not falling but definitly not able to really go anywehre. I did a lot of talking, and investigating and ended up going with the level grips and had wonderful luck with then so far.
What kind of style turning does your mare have? Does she really drag her butt? Since I have gotten answers from both ends of the spectrum Im wondering if the individual turning style is going to make that much of a difference. Im just scared to go with the regular rims on the rear because that might be too much traction. I mostly just run at jackpots so the ground is usually good.
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Location: Along the Caney River | I posted earlier about the eventer shoes. I ride a horse that drags his but and I have not had hock or stifle problems. In fact I have had less soreness than before. I would not put a rim on the back because it is too much traction and will sore them up. |
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Location: Centerburg, OH | yes. For years and years. Love them. They are much more forgiving than rims. |
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Location: Alberta | I've use them for last couple years, work for my horse,.... |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Rockyroad - 2014-01-13 8:38 PM
Are you talking about the shoes that are called Eventers OR types of shoes that eventers usually use?
I was wondering the same thing. While in farrier school the owner shod an eventer and the shoes he made had threaded holes to insert the style of caulks needed for the event. |
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Location: Mi | mreklaw - 2014-01-14 2:37 PM Ahmac - 2014-01-14 12:06 PM I used eventers for quite a few years on my mare. I run a lot of rodeos (which up here where I'm at are usually hard, trashy ground) and also some jackpots which the ground is usually pretty good at. I started having problems with summer with her, she was firing a lot harder then what she had been in the rodeo pens the eventers would not hold her at all. The jackpot pens, she could stand up, but wasn't running like she had, you could feel her skating (the best way I can describe it) around, not falling but definitly not able to really go anywehre. I did a lot of talking, and investigating and ended up going with the level grips and had wonderful luck with then so far. What kind of style turning does your mare have? Does she really drag her butt? Since I have gotten answers from both ends of the spectrum Im wondering if the individual turning style is going to make that much of a difference. Im just scared to go with the regular rims on the rear because that might be too much traction. I mostly just run at jackpots so the ground is usually good.
Shes more the 4 wheel drive kind, uses her back end a little more then her front end, but doesn't drag her butt around a barrel either. If you're just running at jackpots with good ground you wil probably be fine with them. |
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| I don't use them to heavy for my liking and my husband is my shoer and he hates shaping them up. All of mine are running in kings plate and I love them. I have several different style of horses and they all get around good in them. |
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Location: Kansas (but Great Lakes member since 1978) | Used them for years…. my husband is our shoer and he only "hot shoes" them. I have switched my barrel horses to Razer shoes and love them everywhere. The eveners are heavier and we like them better on a few of our horses though….perhaps because they are cheaper for the ones we don't use much and need shoes. We've been using the Razer shoes for over a year now and see much better hoof growth and less slipping on hard ground but not too much grab. If your shoer would hot shape the eveners he'd not hate them as much…. unless he already does and then it's just a preference and you can't blame anyone for having preferences.
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Location: Along the Caney River | I looked at the razor shoes, way to light made for my horse and the country we live in. We live in the rocky Osage hill of Northeastern OKlahoma. They are not for me. I love the eventers and have had good results with them. Not only do I run at rodeos but we use our horses on our ranch for work. |
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| I've always been taught that eventers are slicker than real rim shoes. Makes sense, as half the shoe is just a wide plate, and the 'rim' inside the toe is wider, thus not having as much aggressive grab. I shoe all the way around with rims. It's like the difference in running in cleats in dirt or tennis shoes on dirt. I want cleats so I can stand up. I personally feel that the damage inflicted by traction isn't as much as damage inflicted by sliding around would be. |
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Location: Randolph, Utah | I have used Eventers on my horses for a few years, I have never had any issues with them. My old shoer would put them on for me but he didn't carry them so I had to buy them which wasn't a big deal. We only put them on my horses that were running. I had to switch shoers last fall and my new guy uses eventers. All my horses will have eventers this year, it will be interesting to see if I have any problems. |
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| If you like the Eventers, but want a little more grab try the TFT's. They have a raised square edge.
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Location: louisburg, ks | Who makes the tft? |
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| boogie - 2014-01-15 7:45 PM Who makes the tft?
Tucumcari Farrier Technologies??? Or something like that. They are out of Tucumcari New Mexico. |
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| I used the aluminum eventer shoes on my mare's fronts. Love them! |
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I Am a Snake Killer
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | SKM - 2014-01-15 7:30 PM
If you like the Eventers, but want a little more grab try the TFT's. They have a raised square edge.
Do you use these on the hind only or all the way around? |
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Location: 'Hawk Country | classicpotatochip - 2014-01-15 4:03 PM I've always been taught that eventers are slicker than real rim shoes. Makes sense, as half the shoe is just a wide plate, and the 'rim' inside the toe is wider, thus not having as much aggressive grab. I shoe all the way around with rims. It's like the difference in running in cleats in dirt or tennis shoes on dirt. I want cleats so I can stand up. I personally feel that the damage inflicted by traction isn't as much as damage inflicted by sliding around would be.
This is what I've been told too. They are wider. More steel on the dirt. Steel on dirt is slicker than hoof on dirt.
That being said, I use them on front feet of my thin soled horse because they do cover more of the foot and offer more support.
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| mreklaw - 2014-01-16 7:46 AM SKM - 2014-01-15 7:30 PM If you like the Eventers, but want a little more grab try the TFT's. They have a raised square edge.
Do you use these on the hind only or all the way around?
I used them all the way around. |
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| I used to use a rim... it grabbed too much for my guy coming into the barrel, he would jam the hind end and get sore... He likes to be able to rock back on his hind end and slide a bit though, so I went to an eventer and really like them. He can rock back and slide on the ends of the shoe coming into the barrel, but has the grab of the rim coming out. I run on anything from hard to deep and soft ground. Hard ground he has to be a bit more careful on though as they do not have as much traction. |
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Location: In My Own Dream Land | SKM - 2014-01-16 6:15 AM boogie - 2014-01-15 7:45 PM Who makes the tft? Tucumcari Farrier Technologies??? Or something like that. They are out of Tucumcari New Mexico.
Anyway I can get a number or contact info? I need something less than rims but more than eventers. Sounds like this might work ok. Thank you |
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Location: Salem Ky | I use them, really like them alot. At first my farrier didn't know how he liked them. But now he gets more impressed with them as the time goes on. That mare is more of a butt dragger
I just put them on my new mare. I'll find out how well I like them on her. She is more 4 wheel drive. |
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| tThompson - 2014-01-18 6:34 PM
SKM - 2014-01-16 6:15 AM boogie - 2014-01-15 7:45 PM Who makes the tft? Tucumcari Farrier Technologies??? Or something like that. They are out of Tucumcari New Mexico.
Tucumcari Farrier Technologies Map
905 W Railroad Av
Tucumcari, New Mexico 88401
(505) 461-2942 |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | My gelding was in eventers on the front when I bought him. I can't help but think they contributed to his forging problem since they were heavier than the kegs on his back feet. He has a big overstep and is lazy, so has a tendency to forge if everything is not just right. |
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