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Location: North Dakota | What a story for a Monday!
Last night I had sold something on our local online selling place. Basically this website is like a Craigslist, but no one around here uses Craigslist (for the most part). We use a website called BisMan up here. I've sold tons of stuff on there. It's been great to get rid of stuff I don't need, now that we moved into our new house.
I sold a cable router that I couldn't use anymore because we now have satelite internet at our new house. Two high-school looking kids came and got it last night for $50. Actually .... $49. He was a dollar short and asked if that was okay. I was like, whatever, that's fine. He gave me two twenties, one five, and four ones.
Went to the bank drive-through during my lunch today to deposit my paycheck, a money order (for some no-bow wraps I also sold on BisMan), $40 from the two kids last night, and $20 of my own I had in my purse that I didn't need. I bet I sat there in the drive-through for at least 10 minutes. She told me her computer was being slow, which sounded weird to me, because I've never had a deposit take that long.
I was actually thinking in my mind, as I was sitting there waiting, what if that money order I got is fake? Maybe that's what she is checking on.
But I figured it all must have been fine because she gave me my card back and my receipt and I went on my way.
Just as I turned onto the street to go back to work, there is a COP behind me with his LIGHTS ON. 
I'm thinking, wth? I used my blinker. I stopped properly. I didn't cut anyone off. I can't imagine what he has pulled me over for. 
He walks up to my window, asks for my driver's license, and then asks me if I was just at the bank. I said yes. He said that two of the twenty dollar bills I deposited were fake. So of course, the teller's computer wasn't running slow, she was just making me sit there until she could get a cop to nab me when I left!!!
So I proceeded to tell the officer that I sold this router on BisMan last night to these two kids and he gave me these two twenties to pay for it. And the kid (never got his name) had texted me several times to get directions and whatnot. So I gave the cop the phone number. And he took down what information he needed.
I had to go back to the bank, escorted by the police officer, to clear everything up with the bank. Which was a little embarassing, to be quite honest. The teller came out with the 2 fake $20's and then my real $20 and she said she knew they were fake because the paper was "waxy" and they were missing one of the water marks. Honest to God, even if I had looked closely at the money myself, I would have no idea it was fake. There's too many water marks now for the average person to know what is supposed to be there and what is not.
I'm sure the bank has policies they have to follow, but I've been a customer there for YEARS. If they simply would have asked me to come in because the two twenties were fake, I would have had no problem doing so. Rather, they try to scare the crap out of me by setting a cop on me when I leave!!!!!
I'll be listed as a victim on the claim, since they have to turn everything into the government and whatnot. And I've got the officer's business card and the detective will be giving me a follow up call. I would love it if they can catch these twerps.
Anyway, with the locals around here, I would hope that BisMan would still be a honest way to get rid of some stuff you don't want. And maybe those kids didn't know they were fake either, but geez. A little bit ****ed that I am now out $40, which of course isn't a lot of money, but I was very happy to have it. I have lots of bills with this new house.
But anyway, there's your story for Monday.
Watch your cash!
Edited by r_beau 2014-01-22 12:29 PM
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Location: North Dakota | Hubby and I love Bisman! We just test drove a truck on Saturday that we found on there and we have sold equipment on the site as well. :) That really sucks about your ordeal....having to go thru that and then be out $40! I hope they catch who is to blame for it all. |
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Location: Texas | We have a cousin that is hard up for money, but she refuses to take money from people... so my mom, my sister, and I all had our hair done by her and we paid her. We all paid with 20's and one of them was fake. She had no idea (we had no idea) anything was wrong with them. Trying to get gas at a convenience store is where she got "caught". We felt so bad. |
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Location: N Texas | When I worked as a teller many years ago, it was our policy to let them know they gave a counterfeit bill and we kept it, but we could not replace it with a good one, so that's very interesting that they actually "deposited" them for you.
The only one I can remember is someone came in the drive thru and one of the 100's they sent in was fake. We knew it wasn't intentional because they were an established customer, and we knew they wouldn't try and pull that. When we told them we had to confiscate the bill and we couldn't replace it, they weren't very happy, but said they'd go back to the person who gave it to them.
If you've been a customer for a while, that's pretty crappy that they would call the cops on you! They're supposed to handle it themselves. |
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| Itsme - 2014-01-13 3:12 PM Likely excuse...
OP, that really sucks. I hope they catch those kids - heck, THEY might even be victims. You have to be kind of smart to create counterfeit money. |
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| I'm a waitress so I deal with a lot of cash. Always check the 50's and 100's but never the 20's. I walk out with my tips in cash that night and went to the tack store the next day. Lady thought it would be funny if she told me on of them was fake! Scared me half to death because that's one of my fears is one being fake, very likely since so much cash gets exchanged. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | They have been passing scads of fake 20's in my area....the other day they got fake "ones"....now who would go to the time and effort to make a FAKE ONE DOLLAR BILL........With all of the internet hacking of credit and debit cards and now fake cash....what the heck are we supposed to use? |
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| Some kids in our neighborhood when i was 12-13 years old used to make counterfeit 20's and then they would buy something small from the ice-cream man with the 20, so that he hands them back change in actual money.
not sure if he got busted, or was able to turn the kids in but for years after that he and a lot of other trucks only accepted 1's 5's and 10's. |
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| on a more funny note, my dad thinks its "fun" to give cash gifts in $2 bills... you can still get them from the bank.
but when you try to spend them anywhere... cashiers are either mad because there is no slot in the draw for them, or they accuse you of trying to spend fake money.
my dad thinks its hilarious. |
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Location: Midwest Farmer's Daughter: Central Illinois | NJJ - 2014-01-13 2:45 PM They have been passing scads of fake 20's in my area....the other day they got fake "ones"....now who would go to the time and effort to make a FAKE ONE DOLLAR BILL........With all of the internet hacking of credit and debit cards and now fake cash....what the heck are we supposed to use?
Those are made a lot by people who go to strip clubs. Throw lots of cash, get your jollies because the girls think you're a fresh, good-paying customer & then hit the road. |
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| When I worked at the bank around a year ago we got counterfeit a lot more then we shouls have. Usually from gas stations but NEVER handled it that was. Just made the depositer aware of it and keep the money and there deposit would be short that amount. Sometimes even the tellers would miss and it would get shipped to the feds. We got a letter stating the teller number and made teller aware they needed to be more careful. That was it... I think that was a little bit over board on making you feel like a criminal |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | RLB - 2014-01-13 3:09 PM NJJ - 2014-01-13 2:45 PM They have been passing scads of fake 20's in my area....the other day they got fake "ones"....now who would go to the time and effort to make a FAKE ONE DOLLAR BILL........With all of the internet hacking of credit and debit cards and now fake cash....what the heck are we supposed to use? Those are made a lot by people who go to strip clubs. Throw lots of cash, get your jollies because the girls think you're a fresh, good-paying customer & then hit the road.
LOL....I had to laugh...now how would you KNOW that?  |
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| That's pretty mortifying - they acted like you were the crook. Rude and since you have been banking there for years, shame on the bank for treating you that way! Once our bank accused my assistant of stealing their plastic tube thing from the drive through and when they discovered their mistake they sent her flowers. Went a long way to make us feel better. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | At least the bank teller was doing her job. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | NJJ - 2014-01-13 3:21 PM RLB - 2014-01-13 3:09 PM NJJ - 2014-01-13 2:45 PM They have been passing scads of fake 20's in my area....the other day they got fake "ones"....now who would go to the time and effort to make a FAKE ONE DOLLAR BILL........With all of the internet hacking of credit and debit cards and now fake cash....what the heck are we supposed to use? Those are made a lot by people who go to strip clubs. Throw lots of cash, get your jollies because the girls think you're a fresh, good-paying customer & then hit the road.
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| What I'm suprised someone hasn't already mentioned is this....you were out $40, and that's bad enough, but what if it was a stack of $100 bills which were used to pay for something expensive such as a saddle and what if those kids were using a trac phone paid for with cash which is not traceable?? Would it be your fault for not knowing the bills were fake(who would??) and you'd just have to take the loss??? That's very disturbing and scares me! |
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Location: N Texas | Used2B - 2014-01-13 4:28 PM
What I'm suprised someone hasn't already mentioned is this....you were out $40, and that's bad enough, but what if it was a stack of $100 bills which were used to pay for something expensive such as a saddle and what if those kids were using a trac phone paid for with cash which is not traceable?? Would it be your fault for not knowing the bills were fake(who would??) and you'd just have to take the loss??? That's very disturbing and scares me!
Yep, if you take fake bills for payment, it's your loss and your responsibility to track down whoever gave it to you. Of course you'd want to report it to the authorities, but banks aren't going to make it right for you.
ETA: they sell counterfeit detector pens at office supply stores, in case you're wary of getting fake bills from someone.
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Location: North Dakota | Itsme - 2014-01-13 2:12 PM Likely excuse...
Likely excuse for what?? What are you talking about? |
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Location: North Dakota | Gunner11 - 2014-01-13 2:26 PM When I worked as a teller many years ago, it was our policy to let them know they gave a counterfeit bill and we kept it, but we could not replace it with a good one, so that's very interesting that they actually "deposited" them for you.
Yea, the $40 didn't actually get deposited and the teller told me that after the fact when I was there with the police officer.
I thought it was a little "rash" on the bank's part for calling the cops on me, but I am not angry at them in any way and understand that maybe that's just how they have to do things.
Just got a call from the detective in the sheriff's department who's working on the case. I sent him the screen shots from my phone of the text messages. They're going to try to get the phone number's records and see if they can track him down. Or .... track down the other victim! Who knows. These kids did act kinda strange but what teenage boy isn't strange? 
It'll be interesting if they can actually catch the one who started this all, whether that was the teenagers or someone else. |
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| We own a business and when I made a deposit last week there was a 50 that was fake. It passed the pen test and everything. My bank doesn't act like that. lol They were like hey this ones fake we will have to take it off the deposit and they said that someone would come out and talk with my employees on how to check. They brought us these little flash lights to use to check the money with. |
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Location: PNW | That is so stinky that your bank treated you so poorly! Maybe if you were a brand new customer - sure call the cops. But an established customer? Come on! Innocent until proven guilty anyone?
If my bank did that to me, I would be FUMING. We live in a really small town, I don't need the bank starting crazy rumors.
Bummer about your $40 though :( |
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Location: Phoenix | You could set up a sting.....tell the kid you forgot a cable that goes with the router and meet him somewhere and the cops show up as well. That'll teach him! |
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Location: Central Arkansas | Several years ago my husband went into our bank and cashed a check that a customer had given him for electrical work done. He then paid his helper cash. His helper (Jerrod) went to his bank to deposit the cash and one of the $100 bills was fake. Secret service was brought in
to investigate and took the fake bill. I called our bank and they finally gave me the name
and number of who to call. You get a real fast call back when you leave a msg about their
bank letting a fake bill get past them!
We are long time customers of this bank and they ended up replacing the fake bill. Their teller
should have caught it in the first place.
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Location: SE Louisiana | I noticed the other day, the wal-mart here was using the magic pen to check everything larger that a one dollar bill. |
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Location: North Dakota | hammer_time - 2014-01-13 8:48 PM You could set up a sting.....tell the kid you forgot a cable that goes with the router and meet him somewhere and the cops show up as well. That'll teach him!
I have thought of that hammer_time. It came with an installation CD with password, and I could say I gave them the wrong password!!! I was very tempted yesterday to do this, but I didn't want to interfere with the police's investigation.
Of course, if they've hooked the router up already and its working, they'll call my bluff. |
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Location: North Dakota | Went to the sheriff's office today.... to pick up my router.
Got there, and turns out the kids only turned in the router and power cord, but NOT the installation CD that contains the password (wireless protected router). The detective tells me that he is very surprised that the kid brought it back in the first place because he is being charged.
He's going to try to contact his attorney and see if he can get me the CD.
On one hand, I feel bad for the kid to start off his life with a federal offense of counterfiet money .... but you do the crime, you pay the time, dude.
Honestly, this is almost like one of those "stupid criminals" scenarios.
1) I had his text message and phone number from the transaction.
2) He texted me, asking me why the sheriff wanted to meet with him because the sheriff wouldn't tell him why (Well, if the sheriff wouldn't tell you why .... how did you know it was invoving the router?)
3) He's called me at least 4 times since then. (I never answered.)
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Location: Sperry, OK | r_beau - 2014-01-22 12:32 PM Went to the sheriff's office today.... to pick up my router.
Got there, and turns out the kids only turned in the router and power cord, but NOT the installation CD that contains the password (wireless protected router). The detective tells me that he is very surprised that the kid brought it back in the first place because he is being charged.
He's going to try to contact his attorney and see if he can get me the CD.
On one hand, I feel bad for the kid to start off his life with a federal offense of counterfiet money .... but you do the crime, you pay the time, dude.
Honestly, this is almost like one of those "stupid criminals" scenarios.
1) I had his text message and phone number from the transaction.
2) He texted me, asking me why the sheriff wanted to meet with him because the sheriff wouldn't tell him why (Well, if the sheriff wouldn't tell you why .... how did you know it was invoving the router?)
3) He's called me at least 4 times since then. (I never answered.)
So does this mean they determined the boy to be the one making the money? |
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| r_beau - 2014-01-22 12:32 PM Went to the sheriff's office today.... to pick up my router.
Got there, and turns out the kids only turned in the router and power cord, but NOT the installation CD that contains the password (wireless protected router). The detective tells me that he is very surprised that the kid brought it back in the first place because he is being charged.
He's going to try to contact his attorney and see if he can get me the CD.
On one hand, I feel bad for the kid to start off his life with a federal offense of counterfiet money .... but you do the crime, you pay the time, dude.
Honestly, this is almost like one of those "stupid criminals" scenarios.
1) I had his text message and phone number from the transaction.
2) He texted me, asking me why the sheriff wanted to meet with him because the sheriff wouldn't tell him why (Well, if the sheriff wouldn't tell you why .... how did you know it was invoving the router?)
3) He's called me at least 4 times since then. (I never answered.)
He really sounds too dumb to be in a life a crime! LOL |
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Location: North Dakota | Yes, he was making the money.
Here's the news story. And yes, the "woman in north Morton county" is me. ;-)
http://www.kxnet.com/story/24520490/man-charged-in-morton-county-with-counterfeiting
Edited by r_beau 2014-01-22 3:10 PM
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | From the Article: "Sheriff Dave Shipman says Semen Tichinevskiy was arrested Friday following an investigation"
Seriously...that's this goober's name? hahaha
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Location: North Dakota | TrailGirl - 2014-01-22 2:47 PM From the Article: "Sheriff Dave Shipman says Semen Tichinevskiy was arrested Friday following an investigation"
Seriously...that's this goober's name? hahaha
Yup. That's what it says. 
When the dummie texted me (asking what the sheriff wanted) he said his name was "Simon" but that also could have been auto-correct or something. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I'm sure you would have rather have seen a story about you winning a barrel race rather then being passed counterfeit money by a dude named Semen..LOL |
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Location: Abilene tx | Nevertooold - 2014-01-22 6:49 PM
I'm sure you would have rather have seen a story about you winning a barrel race rather then being passed counterfeit money by a dude named Semen..LOL
Lol... :) |
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| Nevertooold - 2014-01-22 6:49 PM I'm sure you would have rather have seen a story about you winning a barrel race rather then being passed counterfeit money by a dude named Semen..LOL
I.AM.DYING! |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Nevertooold - 2014-01-22 6:49 PM I'm sure you would have rather have seen a story about you winning a barrel race rather then being passed counterfeit money by a dude named Semen..LOL
LMAO. That's horrible, but too freakin funny. Maybe his mom couldn't spell. No wonder he's a social misfit and dumb criminal... |
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Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright, TX | r_beau - 2014-01-22 12:32 PM Went to the sheriff's office today.... to pick up my router.
Got there, and turns out the kids only turned in the router and power cord, but NOT the installation CD that contains the password (wireless protected router). The detective tells me that he is very surprised that the kid brought it back in the first place because he is being charged.
He's going to try to contact his attorney and see if he can get me the CD.
On one hand, I feel bad for the kid to start off his life with a federal offense of counterfiet money .... but you do the crime, you pay the time, dude.
Honestly, this is almost like one of those "stupid criminals" scenarios.
1) I had his text message and phone number from the transaction.
2) He texted me, asking me why the sheriff wanted to meet with him because the sheriff wouldn't tell him why (Well, if the sheriff wouldn't tell you why .... how did you know it was invoving the router?)
3) He's called me at least 4 times since then. (I never answered.)
He just hasn't been to prison yet to learn how to do it correctly. That'll be covered soon.
Glad they were caught and it's amazing really, as much work as the feds do to make our money look so complicated now, it almost seems it's become easier to reproduce it. ? |
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Location: North Dakota | Nevertooold - 2014-01-22 6:49 PM I'm sure you would have rather have seen a story about you winning a barrel race rather then being passed counterfeit money by a dude named Semen..LOL
Haha, indeed!!
As far as the actual fake bills go .... the teller showed me the 2 fake ones against my 1 real one. Sure, when she pointed out that they felt "waxier" and that the watermark on the end was slightly different, I could see what she was talking about. But if I had really examined the bills on my own before I deposited them?? I would have had no clue they were fake.
Scary how real they can look, even with an amateur doing it.
I do find it kind of humerous that he got caught over $40 ...... and not like $400 or $4,000! Just $40.  |
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