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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | 3horse slant gooseneck with a dressing room in the front. It would be loaded with two horses plus tack and I'd have a large plastic container to carry water. What do you think? Can a half ton truck handle this? here are a couple photo examples that i pulled off the net.
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Location: Texas | It's not pulling it that I would be worried about it would be stopping it. I would at least use a f250. I have a 3 horse/stock bp that I pull with a 1500 hd and I can feel it especially when the wind gets to blowing or I have a goofy horse back there. I know a goose neck is more stable but it's not something I would do. Now my husband would say go for it they pulled something similar when he was growing up with his dads 150. I would also be concerned with the damage pulling something like that would do to your truck after pulling it a lot. JMO. Nice trailer though!!! |
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| If you do, you will want to add airbags or extra leaf springs to your rear suspension.
A 250/2500 is in most cases a half ton with beefy suspension, or so I've been told. for the Super Duty or HD versions that may be different.
I agree with the above that stopping it would be more my concern - and stopping under extreme circumstances that no one hopes to ever encounter. |
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The Advice Guru
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| I would look at weight of the trailer and what the truck gvw is
Also you would need to look at the tire rating
Edited by cheryl makofka 2014-01-15 6:08 PM
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 Love Me Some Robert Redford
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Location: WV | I wouldn't try it. |
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  Warmblood with Wings
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Location: Florida.. | a car truck saleman will tell you YES sure..
No.. not safely |
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| NOPE. |
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| You can pull it but stopping it is a whole other can of worms. |
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Location: Texas | I would NOT! |
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Location: on my horse | no no no no no no no no no no no  |
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Sock Snob
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| How far would you be pulling this trailer, if you pull with a 1/2 ton, make sure you have 10ply tires and not p metric which is 4 ply. Also need like someone said beef of the rear of that truck i would go to nearest garage or trailer dealer to,figure what you need thirdly you would need at transmission line cooler. That being said gmc and chevy make a 1500hd i think it is special order that comes with beefed up brakes, trans oil cooler and heavier axles and springs. That could pull the trailer you want. |
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Location: Eastern OH but my heart is in WV | I pulled a trailer about the size of the first trailer for years with a heavy 3 quarter ton/diesel engine . Never had any problems pulling or stopping, however, everyone kept telling me once I pulled with a dully, I would never go back to anything else. Boy, were they right! The stability alone was a huge difference. My husband and I were just talking and we would not pull the top trailer with anything less than a heavy 3 quarter ton and defiantly not a 1/2 ton for either trailer.
edited to add... At first I was thinking if the top trailer is larger but going back and looking I am having a hard time telling if they are the same size or the bottom is smaller.
Edited by Rolling J 2014-01-15 7:24 PM
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Location: Montana | I wouldn't. Yeah, stopping it could be a problem, and most automatic transmissions in 1/2 ton pickups won't be able to handle that kind of load for very long. We have a two horse slant with a tack compartment up front. We used two separate a 1/2 ton pickups the first year (one did better than the other) and they did fine, but we like using a 3/4 ton much, much better.
May I ask what kind of 1/2 truck you plan on using? Some brands can handle it better than others. |
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Location: Stuck in a cubicle having tropical thoughts | Thanks everybody. right now I have a F350 but we are looking into all our options with downsizing. I do beleive my parents might have pulled something similiar back in the 90s with a half ton truck. The trailer I'm remembering was all steel on top of that. But I do beleive it was tough on the transmission. |
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Location: MI | A lot of my problem with it is loaded, even possibly with two horses and tack, it may be over the weight rating of the truck. Which, sure, the truck can likely still haul - but, I would be worried that if something happened, and I was over the weight ratings, insurance wouldn't cover it. Which would really just stink. |
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Location: Texas | I wouldn't try it. A half ton could probably pull the trailer somewhat decently as long as you're not going up and down hills but you're going to play like heck trying to stop. If a truck can't stop a trailer quickly and safely in case of an emergency situation, the truck should not be pulling that trailer. That being said, trailer brakes are a wonderful thing but they can fail and can't be relied on. |
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Location: Online | Not in a million years. |
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Location: SW New Mexico | rodeomom13 - 2014-01-16 7:21 PM
Not in a million years.
agreed.
I'd use a 1 ton, no less for safety.
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | Just because you can doesn't mean you should! lol |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Thats alot of weight for a 1/2 ton truck, I would not. |
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Location: Kansas | I have a 3 horse slant stock combo with a dressing room in the front and I pull it with a half ton Dodge truck. I don't go crazy with speed (I rarely even hit 65 mph with 3 horses) and I slow down super early. (basically I drive like a little old lady) I know it's not an ideal towing vehicle especially when I put 3 horses and a weekend worth of hay in it. I'd love to upgrade trucks but can't find a truck that would be an upgrade for less than $10K and with the job I have now, I can't afford even a couple hundred a month in truck payments. I will say that my stock combo trailer is a lot lighter than my boyfriend's 3-horse with weekend living quarters and I'd never try to pull his trailer with my truck. My parents have an older half ton Ford that could not possibly handle my trailer so it definitely depends on the exact truck and trailer. |
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Fire Ant Peddler
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| The top picture is my trailer same brand everything. The dressing room is finished out with 3/8 inch paneling and a fiber glass ceiling. There is a refrigerator and one of those triangular water tanks that fit into the corner which holds 33 gallons. (8 pounds/gallon). I pull mine with a 3/4 ton dodge diesel. I have been through three sets of tires on my trailer so it does get used. My truck is an automatic and I never have any problems with towing or stopping. You should have your trailer brakes working and stopping a trailer this size should not be a problem. The ONLY problem that I see is what rear end you have in any truck. If a half ton has a rear end that is geared low it will not put such a strain in the transmission. if the half ton comes with a towing package the rear end should be geared lower. If new the rear end should be on the sticker. If used it might be on the door. (not sure) |
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-01-15 8:54 PM
Just because you can doesn't mean you should! lol
Yes what this poster said. I have seen people do it but should you, no. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | I agree with everyone else and wouldn't try to tow that with a half ton unless you have a half ton that's not really a half ton.
When I was selling my trailer last fall, I had a lady call about it who had just bought a half ton rated to tow 10,000 pounds. My trailer was about 7500 empty and I towed it with various 3/4 ton pickups the whole time I owned it. She asked me did I think she could tow it with her new truck as long as she didn't fully load it--my answer was I don't feel comfortable telling you that's a good idea. I wouldn't do it myself. The salesman that sold her the truck didn't do her justice IMO, because she bought it with the intentions of buying a small LQ horse trailer. I probably could have sold her the trailer, one of her family members had already looked in person and loved it but decided it was too small for their needs and thought it was perfect for her, but I just couldn't do that to someone. |
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Location: Kansas | Meh....I've seen half tons haul heavier things
Safely no.....but it can be done |
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Location: Southern OK aka God's Country | barlracr429 - 2014-01-15 7:54 PM
Thanks everybody. right now I have a F350 but we are looking into all our options with downsizing. I do beleive my parents might have pulled something similiar back in the 90s with a half ton truck. The trailer I'm remembering was all steel on top of that. But I do beleive it was tough on the transmission.
I have a 3/4 ton GMC duramax and I pull that same size trailer no problem with 3 horses. I drive it every day to work so a 1 ton is not practical. The 3/4 is just right for our needs. |
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Miracle in the Making
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| if you would wreck and hit someone being overweight like you will be you can bet you will be sued
also if you would get pulled into weight station you are over weight it could get ugly fast
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Location: Up and over to the right | I pulled a 3h bp for a couple of years w/ a half ton but upgraded to a 3/4 ton diesel. Not only for the concern of stopping with my horses but if I was hauling for a friend and they got hurt… I'd never forgive myself. The newer half tons claim to be able to haul more but again, stopping is the real problem. I think a 1 ton or a dually would be overkill on this trailer. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | hoofs_in_motion - 2014-01-16 7:44 AM Meh....I've seen half tons haul heavier things
Safely no.....but it can be done
You can say that again. I see farmers hook up cattle trailers on sale day to their 1/2 tons, load them plum full of cattle with the back end of the pickup squatting down and putz down the highway headed to town. Is it safe? no. Can they stop safely quickly? no. Will they continue to do it? yes.
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Location: North Dakota | You could not stop. Trust me it would be a matter of time before some pulled out in front of you and when you go to stop a little quicker than normal you would be pushed forward anyway!!! |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | As others have said...it's not enough truck to be hauling that much trailer/weight. Wear and tear on the rear end etc...and yeah...stopping and stability when the unexpected occurs will sure cause some issues.
I think a lot of folks would be surprised to see how much their rig truly weighs when loaded. Everyone should go hitch up their rig, load it like they would for the weekend with water, horses, hay etc...and go weigh in at one of the truck scales. Knowing how heavy they are may cause some to reconsider their truck/trailer combo.
** edited to say that I have been a lurker for some time...just decided to chime in on this one as I had the same debate with myself years ago. I upgraded trucks before getting the larger trailer. I have never regretted that decision. I just had to be patient and wait on getting the bigger trailer for a while.
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| Safely no and especially with a full load. I would not risk it. You get to some of those hills and it could get really ugly. And your fuel mileage will probably be like 2 mpg. |
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Location: North Dakota | Well I'll put on my flame suit and be the odd one out.
I drive my husband's GMC 1500 with my Exiss 3-horse slant. Most of the time, I haul just my 2 horses. But I have hauled 3 horses before. I've got all my tack inside (I've only got 1 saddle for myself) and when going to a show I'll usually have two 5-gallon buckets of water filled. I'm certainly not buzzing 75 or 80 mph down the interstate, though. And the farthest from home I go is 3 hours, mostly flat prairie. I'm mindful of the fact that I'm only driving a 1/2 ton. Doesn't mean accidents can't happen, but I'm probably more watchful than most because of it.
I personally don't like bumper pulls. I've borrowed ones before and I don't like that they can fishtail in a hard wind. I won't own anything but a gooseneck. So I bought a gooseneck. Lady I bought it from pulled it with a 1/2 ton pickup too. I've been super happy with it thus far.
I know it's not ideal. But our financial situation at the moment is going to keep me where we are at, so I'm making do with what we have. First chance I can get, I am getting a 3/4 ton but it might be another year before I can do that.
So to answer your question, yes, you can pull a 3-horse slant trailer with a 1/2 ton. But if you have the money/means, don't go any lower than a 3/4 ton if you have the choice (which in your case sounds like you have a choice). But sometimes you just have to make do with what you've got. |
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| Some people do, but I wouldn't. I see little old men pulling HUGE travel trailers with half tons too. I just cringe. |
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Location: Iowa | I pulled a 4 horse with a hd 1/2. Usually only had 1-2 horses on it. No hills. Yes I pulled fine but the key is do you have the stopping power, No.
Another thing to remember is to upgrade your liscense plates to the correct tonage you are pulling. DOT will get you good if they ever pull you over.
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Location: College Station, TX | Is it the best idea? NO.
But I did it with an 03 Chevy 1500 and a trailer the same size for years all through high school and college and never had a problem at all. I used what I could afford, and I'm still here to tell about it. Like someone else said, pulling it isn't the problem, stopping it is. Make sure the brakes are in good condition and work.
If you have the option, use a 2500 or 3500. If it's your only choice, yes it is possible. |
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| I hauled 2 different 3H goosenecks with my 1/2 ton 5.9L Dodge for years! Even went from Idaho to Texas and back a few times. I went through brake pads a lot quicker than most, but it got better mileage than my diesel on some days. I made sure I kept the truck in good condition and I never had a problem. Just couldn't go up big hills in the summer with the AC blowing on full blast lol! |
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| I hauled a 3 horse exiss for years with a half ton truck i never once had an issue, if your concerned just call a truck dealership and they will tell you |
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Location: Iowa | GVWR stands for Gross Vehicle Weight Rating and tells you how you much you can tow if pulling. This is truck and trailer with cargo combined. It should be stamped inside the door frame on the truck. Run across a scale sometime with a rig and see how much it weighs. Like it has been said, if your in an accident even if your not at fault, your over weight, you will pay a stiff penalty.
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Location: Texas | I made the mistake a few years back when I downsized to a half ton & a bumper pull 2 horse. It's so much better to have too much truck than not enough truck. I would never try a half ton again. |
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| I have a featherlite aluminum 3h that I pull with a 1500 dodge, switch from a 3h steel. It pulls great with 2 horses but you can tell it's working the truck with 3 or more horses in it. Just make sure you have good brakes as someone else stated and I think it should be fine. |
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Miss Southern Sunshine
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Location: South Central Florida | I have a trailer same size that I pulled with my F150 for years. The truck is still going strong. However I live in Florida and it's flat. We hauled it to Augusta GA/SC a few times and had no major problems, but there were a few "hills" that we struggled up. If I drove in any major hills or mountains I would worry about the tranny.
Someone said stopping it would be a problem, but if you have brakes on the trailer I'm not sure why that would be a worry. Even here in Florida every goose neck we have has brakes. |
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