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 The BHW Book Worm
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| I think this has been posted before but I could not find the thread. How much horse do you expect to get for 5000. I know that is very broad question. |
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Location: Wide open spaces, Canada. | A prospect, or older kids horse. Or something unsound, or poorly broke. |
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Location: North MS | We have totally different opinions- I would expect a well broke and finished 3D or 4D horse. Registered.
Or a 2D with issues or inconsistent.
Possibly a bred out of the wazoo yearling or two year old.
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The BHW Book Worm
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| bluerose2001 - 2014-01-16 10:05 PM
We have totally different opinions- I would expect a well broke and finished 3D or 4D horse. Registered.
Or a 2D with issues or inconsistent.
Possibly a bred out of the wazoo yearling or two year old.
This is kinda what I was thinkin |
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| I posted the original thread.
I'm in the Midwest. I think it differs on location.
A younger horse (6-9) that is running consistent 3D that might need better seasoning. Depending on bloodlines I would expect to add $1,000 to $2,000 more.
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Location: Central TX | not very much.....maybe an old 3D horse or a weanie.... |
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| Just have to shop around... there are plenty of nice horses going for that that are worth far more.. |
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| I also posted on the other thread. For 4,500 I got a well bred (proven parents and siblings) gelding that was started on the pattern and breezing through nicely. Has a solid foundation (wtc, sidepass, STOP, back, rollbacks, leg yields, etc.) just needed to be seasoned.
Up here I also sold my 2D barrel mare (14 years old, completely sound, finished in all patterns, same good foundation, quiet, sane and a kid could ride) for $4,500. Crazy how much it differs between areas. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | You can buy a pretty nice young prospect for that.
A very well bred weanling or yearling for sure.
I've bought several OTT in the $2500-5000 range.
If you don't mind riding color breeds you can usually get some bargains on running bred Paints or Apps.
The winningest horse I've ever had was a solid App mare, that was a race winner and a grand daughter of Leaving Memories & Bugs Alive in 75. She won more than what I paid for her at the first futurity I ran her at. 
Edited by rockinas 2014-01-17 8:49 AM
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 Scorpions R Us
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Location: So. Cali. | I wish I could get $5,000.00 for my poorly broke horse.
I agree with shopping around, there are some really great deals out there right now, just have to patient and spend your money wisely.
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| Winged Pegasus. |
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| Apparently for $800 and some elbow grease you can have a futurity winner! |
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Location: WI | For $5000:
I sold an 8yo mare, finished solid 3D at big races.
I bought a 3yo OT AAA stakes placed gelding |
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| Itsme - 2014-01-17 11:04 AM
Apparently for $800 and some elbow grease you can have a futurity winner!
Absolutely love this but I have to consider you a very lucky individual. Not very many times do you get a diamond in the rough, so to speak! Congrats again! |
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| FlyingJT - 2014-01-17 11:12 AM
Itsme - 2014-01-17 11:04 AM
Apparently for $800 and some elbow grease you can have a futurity winner!
Absolutely love this but I have to consider you a very lucky individual. Not very many times do you get a diamond in the rough, so to speak! Congrats again!
Thats not me, we can only dream. But it takes some luck and great training and riding too! |
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| Well, when I get ready to shop for another one, I am HOPING to find a well-broke 5-8 yr old, probably not patterned - registered - but not a "brand name" bloodline.
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Location: SoCal | We sold a mare this summer for $5000 that was easily worth double as a barrel horse, but we had to sell quickly and she ended up being sold as a trail horse. Very broke, kind of marish, soft soles but so long as she had shoes she was fine, and after about 8 years of cutting, her hocks were still very good and she was sound. About 13 years old, but nice looking horse. I had her running 3D-4D within a month or two with a ton of room to improve (she didn't know how to run when we got her, but she was built to run) and was shaping her to be my jackpot and rodeo horse before she was sold. Lovely mare and wish we hadn't sold her, regret it on my part, but we needed to sell a horse quickly and she was the most sellable. Horses also don't sell for much in this area, what sold her was that she was broke. |
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Location: Deep South | porky - 2014-01-16 9:47 PM
A prospect, or older kids horse. Or something unsound, or poorly broke.
Can I send my horse to you to sell?? |
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I Really Love Jeans
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Location: North Dakota | For 5K I can get a fantastic horse with a great handle and no issues but it will not be finished on barrels to the point you can just sit and be a passanger and let the horse work alone. There are lots of really nice horses for 5K that have never seen a barrel that could do better than most barrel horses priced for 15K or more. I think the problem is that lots of barrel horses are not properly trained, they don't take the time to put a solid handle and good foundation on the horse before running it over and over again st shows. It take years to make a good barrel horse that is properly trained that can go and make an automatic run. |
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| angelica - 2014-01-17 12:04 PM
For 5K I can get a fantastic horse with a great handle and no issues but it will not be finished on barrels to the point you can just sit and be a passanger and let the horse work alone. There are lots of really nice horses for 5K that have never seen a barrel that could do better than most barrel horses priced for 15K or more. I think the problem is that lots of barrel horses are not properly trained, they don't take the time to put a solid handle and good foundation on the horse before running it over and over again st shows. It take years to make a good barrel horse that is properly trained that can go and make an automatic run.
Completely agree with you |
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| you can not get a broke horse here for $5000 |
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| In Nevada..... A well bred prospect with a solid foundation. Not started on the barrels. Or 8-13 year olds running 3-4D times. |
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Location: Texas | for $5000 you can get some nice weanlings/yearlings. I'm not talking from stallions with $3000+ stud fees but you can find some nice prospects that are unbroke for that amount.
As far as riding horses, you can find a good riding prospect, especially like Schimkeranch said about getting ones OTT. I've gotten a Stoli, Rock Solid Jess, Shazoom, This Snow Is Royal, Okey Dokey Dale, daughters for way under $5000 that had already raced and didn't have the earnings they were hoping for. The Rock Solid Jess we got as a late 2 YO and she hadn't raced yet. She was kind of hairy at the sale and no one was looking apparently. Mind you, these were all track broke or green broke. So I got them cheap but had to put in the time to get a good handle on them, except the TSIR and the ODD- I sold them as broodmares. The ones I did end up riding were very easy to get going.
I think you can also find some really nice horses who are farther advanced in their training that may or may not have the big names first generation on their papers, but are already proving to have talent and trainability with a good handle for $5000 and under. |
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| have to say Im looking and I am not finding the 3D well patterned 8 to 13 year old for 5K.......i wish it were so :/ |
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Location: Kansas | Shoot....some of you have been very lucky then......when I had my grey mare up for sale, I couldn't even get $5,000 for her. She is finished 2D, will clock 1D locally, awesome rodeo mare, just will baulk and spin at the gate (just keep feet moving and she was fine), and she has fibrotic myopathy (sound as can be, vet said she was fine with no maintence).......Once I listed her had a bunch of people ask me about her, once I told about her FM they ran or offered me $1,500 for her.
I took her off the market after that LOL.
For $5,000 around here, I'd better be sitting on a extremely broke horse, doesn't have to be patterened, or a super nicely bred prospect |
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| y_do_i_do_this - 2014-01-17 3:09 PM
have to say Im looking and I am not finding the 3D well patterned 8 to 13 year old for 5K.......i wish it were so :/
I have found them but the sold real quick or were too far away from me. |
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Location: SoCal | y_do_i_do_this - 2014-01-17 1:09 PM
have to say Im looking and I am not finding the 3D well patterned 8 to 13 year old for 5K.......i wish it were so :/
We had almost no one call on our mare we sold, and that mare did flying lead changes, spins, big stop, and looked like a pleasure horse. You needed to be aggressive with her on barrels cause she was very gritty, turny and a full blown push style, but she would open up through the pattern too. Just kick to the barrel, drop to one rein and she'd peel the paint. I've never seen a horse take to barrels and like them like she did. No gate problems and wasn't an idiot. Her problem was she had a pleasure bred mom with no names, but her top was packed with cutting royalty. First person to come out and look at her bought her and took lessons for a week in order to learn how to ride her because she was so fine tuned. My best advice would be to wait and not get a horse you don't fully like with the price tag you need. Eventually the perfect horse will come along. |
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| For $5000 I got a dead broke, been there done that, cow bred, 9 year old team penning gelding. When I got him he had never seen the barrels but knew how to really sit and use his hind end, which I really like. He's now running and placing well everywhere. I think it all depends on where you are and what is available. I wasn't expecting him to be as nice of a barrel horse as he has turned out to be. I was just looking for a good riding horse to haul around and work cows. Now, I'm hauling and competing again! |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | SG. - 2014-01-18 8:52 AM
Yes, in fact I do, but it never seems to happen! |
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 How freakish is that?
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Location: Oregon | Hey, againy got her horse for $800!! Off craigslist! (I LOVE THIS)
http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=444016&start=1
Once in a while a frog gets kissed and lo and behold it's a freaking prince. |
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| rockinas - 2014-01-17 8:47 AM
You can buy a pretty nice young prospect for that.
A very well bred weanling or yearling for sure.
I've bought several OTT in the $2500-5000 range.
If you don't mind riding color breeds you can usually get some bargains on running bred Paints or Apps.
The winningest horse I've ever had was a solid App mare, that was a race winner and a grand daughter of Leaving Memories & Bugs Alive in 75. She won more than what I paid for her at the first futurity I ran her at.
I love color and would love to have a nice color prospect for 2500-5k! Tell me where :-) |
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 I Love My Mares!
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Location: Moved to Montana | Depends, you can get a nice horse to pack you around the barrels in the 4D probably, an older 2-3D hore that needs maintained, a jacked up 1D horse that you may or may not be able to ever fix. A prospect with nice lines but probably not out of proven performers or producers. It depends on what you want to do, I feel like if you hunt $5000 can get you something nice. And there are $500 horses that make winners but the odds are kind of long. |
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Location: western Nebraska | How about a 10 year old gelding. Nice looking, bred nice and fun to ride. He was sold as a coming 6 year old with a very nice start on the barrels. The lady that bought him never did much with him-maybe a dozen jps. But he has been ranched on and calved on every spring. He is automatic pretty much on the barrels just needs to be hauled to see what he can do and he loves the barrels. Smooth and broke nice. Best part you can buy him for under 5k |
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Miss Not Exciting
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Location: Ft Worth TX | Geez I have some under well under 5k that are well broke with a handle heck ones finished that I cannot even get nibbles or ppl to come look... Eros me. |
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Cold hands and Warm Heart
Location: oklahoma | doglady - 2014-01-18 2:04 PM How about a 10 year old gelding. Nice looking, bred nice and fun to ride. He was sold as a coming 6 year old with a very nice start on the barrels. The lady that bought him never did much with him-maybe a dozen jps. But he has been ranched on and calved on every spring. He is automatic pretty much on the barrels just needs to be hauled to see what he can do and he loves the barrels. Smooth and broke nice. Best part you can buy him for under 5k
This horse would be my pick. |
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Duct Tape Bikini Girl
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| A well bred, two-year-old with 30 days riding. |
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Location: Central Montana | Depends on what you are looking for.
I recently bought an 8 yr old gelding with 2yrs of reining training for under $3,000. I had him shipped in from another state. I actually found the (not very detailed) ad on Craigslist. He had been on track to go to the NRHA futurity but the trainer decided he wasn't going to make the cut. He mostly sat around from his 4 to his 7 yr old year with weekend rides off and on. Had some issues with his feet due to poor farrier work but my farrier thinks that he should be completely back to normal by summer.
I had my mare listed for quite a bit less than that a few months ago. She is 8 this year, well broke, has a reining foundation, and has been hauled to and competed in horse shows since she was 3. She hauls and stalls great, is not bothered by the noise and activity when going places. She's been around the barrels now and then but not consistently. I decided to keep her though.
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| GoinJettin - 2014-01-18 7:23 PM
Depends on what you are looking for.
I recently bought an 8 yr old gelding with 2yrs of reining training for under $3,000. I had him shipped in from another state. I actually found the (not very detailed) ad on Craigslist. He had been on track to go to the NRHA futurity but the trainer decided he wasn't going to make the cut. He mostly sat around from his 4 to his 7 yr old year with weekend rides off and on. Had some issues with his feet due to poor farrier work but my farrier thinks that he should be completely back to normal by summer.
I had my mare listed for quite a bit less than that a few months ago. She is 8 this year, well broke, has a reining foundation, and has been hauled to and competed in horse shows since she was 3. She hauls and stalls great, is not bothered by the noise and activity when going places. She's been around the barrels now and then but not consistently. I decided to keep her though.
We have been looking at your add with the Mare for awhile now, just wish we were set up and ready for another one. |
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What do you expect to get for 5000