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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | This is not a breach of HIPAA If I used the patients name it certainly would be. I only posted this for others on the board who are in the healthcare profession |
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-01-20 4:39 PM
This is an open forum and you have given specific details about a client, you could loose your licence if you are a nurse as you have breached confidentiality.
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| FirstFirewater - 2014-01-20 4:43 PM
This is not a breach of HIPAA If I used the patients name it certainly would be. I only posted this for others on the board who are in the healthcare profession
If you give specifics information that another health care worker or the client himself can say hey that is my or client smiths information it is a breach of confidentiality.
To reword it so it is not a breach of confidentiality is.
I cared for a client and reviewing their history I noticed the individual is not complying with the per scripted treatment the physician had laid out for this individual. It frustrates me as this individual has all these comorbidities directly related to the initial disease and this individual is not concerned about their current health. |
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| Im not sure what was posted hear, but in order for something to breach HIPAA it must contain specific pt information that could be used to identify the pt ex..(name, address, ss#,insurance info) telling stories or talking about a pt does not breach the pt's confidentiality unless the pt is identified in those conversations.
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | rbarnes90 - 2014-01-20 5:18 PM Im not sure what was posted hear, but in order for something to breach HIPAA it must contain specific pt information that could be used to identify the pt ex..(name, address, ss#,insurance info) telling stories or talking about a pt does not breach the pt's confidentiality unless the pt is identified in those conversations.
I agree with this statement, but since others didnt think so I just deleted what I posted to avoid confrontation. I specified pt's illnesses such as diabetes and revealed his a1c being 12 |
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Location: Florida.. | personally I didnt see it either but I dont think any medical person should discuse their patients issues . not pointing at you or anyone just a thing that I think should be kept at the office.its not breaching it but its not morally right .. imho.. Please dont take this as a jab at you. this is just in general anywhere at anytime. |
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | As long as u didn't specify name or any personal info you did nothing wrong! I have seen Doctors come on here and discuss general info about their patients and no one said anything about that! |
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Location: The South | Well I didn't see the original post, but if this makes you feel any better...I had a rotation with a juvenile diabetes clinic and a mother was thrilled when her child's A1C was 12! When I said well, that's not where we'd like it to be, she said it had come down some so they must be doing something right. Oi vey. Poor kid had an average BG of >300 but "they must be doing something right". The kid was overweight and type 2. |
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | mreklaw - 2014-01-20 6:23 PM As long as u didn't specify name or any personal info you did nothing wrong! I have seen Doctors come on here and discuss general info about their patients and no one said anything about that!
Well I suppose since I'm not a doctor they didnt like it- although they weren't rude or anything it just kind of made me question it so I deleted it. Granted the information described a mans age and illnesses and results of latest A1c - but I assumed people would jump in and say what! since his level was unbelievably high - he is basically a non complient pt. who was referred to us for oral surgery and cant be touched until he has medical clearance. Except its been over a year since hes seen his endocrinologist and 2 years since hes seen his PCP. Which pt denies this and cant understand why they say they havent seen him? |
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|  I'm an RN and work in home health. Just wanted to say I know how frustrating it is when your patients don't listen to you when you are teaching them about properly caring for themselves. Diabetics can be some of the hardest to inspire to take care of themselves. I always remember what a friend of mine told me. You can't care more about your patients condition than they do. As nurses all we can do is educate but it's ultimately up to each patient to take care of themselves. Hugs |
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | LindsayJordan84 - 2014-01-20 6:27 PM Well I didn't see the original post, but if this makes you feel any better...I had a rotation with a juvenile diabetes clinic and a mother was thrilled when her child's A1C was 12! When I said well, that's not where we'd like it to be, she said it had come down some so they must be doing something right. Oi vey. Poor kid had an average BG of >300 but "they must be doing something right". The kid was overweight and type 2.
Oh gosh a child with that level is crazy! My pt is taking short and long acting insulin and is still having glucose reads of 230! When I told him it was high he completely disagreed and said he normally runs 300-400. I was always under the impression above 300 you run the risk of diabetic coma? Its not everyday I see such disasters so I'm just in complete shock- he also hasnt had an INR done since april |
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | caspersabelpip - 2014-01-20 6:34 PM I'm an RN and work in home health. Just wanted to say I know how frustrating it is when your patients don't listen to you when you are teaching them about properly caring for themselves. Diabetics can be some of the hardest to inspire to take care of themselves. I always remember what a friend of mine told me. You can't care more about your patients condition than they do. As nurses all we can do is educate but it's ultimately up to each patient to take care of themselves. Hugs
That is so very sweet of you thank you so much! I think what bothers me the most is he doesnt seem to care or understand how dangerous it is? Unfortunately he's lied to us about seeing doctors or he has no concept of time  |
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| FirstFirewater - 2014-01-20 5:40 PM
caspersabelpip - 2014-01-20 6:34 PM I'm an RN and work in home health. Just wanted to say I know how frustrating it is when your patients don't listen to you when you are teaching them about properly caring for themselves. Diabetics can be some of the hardest to inspire to take care of themselves. I always remember what a friend of mine told me. You can't care more about your patients condition than they do. As nurses all we can do is educate but it's ultimately up to each patient to take care of themselves. Hugs
I know exactly how you feel. I've done home care for 13 years and I've had diabetics who we've brought on when first diagnosed to educate them. Then as time goes on we get them back periodically for wound care on their feet and more teaching. I can think of a few that had toes then half their foot amputated and finally lost their lower leg. If these patients had just took their diabetes seriously from the start they never would have lost limbs. Unfortunately a lot of people think it will never be me. |
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Location: Arkansas | Granted, I don't think this is the place to talk about patients, but I understand the frustration that you have! I am in school to be a Rad Tech and we see stuff like this often. It is heartbreaking to have a patient who knowingly has a condition that they can easily correct or improve, and they choose not to do a thing about it. Healthcare is, in my eyes, the hardest feild to work in. You witness so many things that others can't even imagine. So keep your head up, its people that are caring like you that keep the healing going!! Just try not to post patient info on a public site! |
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Location: Phoenix | BMW - 2014-01-20 8:57 PM Names or no names, I hope you never have anything to do with my health care or anyone I know. BHW, nor any other gossip forum, is the place to vent about patients.
Vent aside.....You wouldn't want someone to genuinely care about your health? To see you so close to improving but you still not take action?
im sure we all have done something a bit unprofessional at some point, knowingly or unknowingly. Cut her some slack.
to the OP....I used to work with this VERY obese guy when I worked fast food. He was a cool guy, but so large, and so unhealthy. He hadn't been to the doctor in 10 years at least and I know that if he did go, they would probably tell him that he would die if he carried on the way he was. He was pushing 500, maybe more. I offered to make him healthy food options, but he always declined. It was very friustrating because I had a lot of healthy options and solutions and he just went for they fried foods everytime......I kinda know how you feel. |
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| hammer_time - 2014-01-21 12:29 AM
BMW - 2014-01-20 8:57 PM Names or no names, I hope you never have anything to do with my health care or anyone I know. BHW, nor any other gossip forum, is the place to vent about patients.
Vent aside.....You wouldn't want someone to genuinely care about your health? To see you so close to improving but you still not take action? im sure we all have done something a bit unprofessional at some point, knowingly or unknowingly. Cut her some slack. to the OP....I used to work with this VERY obese guy when I worked fast food. He was a cool guy, but so large, and so unhealthy. He hadn't been to the doctor in 10 years at least and I know that if he did go, they would probably tell him that he would die if he carried on the way he was. He was pushing 500, maybe more. I offered to make him healthy food options, but he always declined. It was very friustrating because I had a lot of healthy options and solutions and he just went for they fried foods everytime......I kinda know how you feel.
How much slack would the department director cut the OP upon reading what she said about a patient on a public forum? Act like a professional! |
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Location: Midwest | She deleted it. Let it go
Personally I'm frustrated knowing a lot of these people will end up disabled and on my tax bill due to their own noncompliance when they could be healthier if they just did as they were instructed. I don't mind paying for folks who cannot help their condition, but hearing about this crap grinds my gears. |
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | barrelracr131 - 2014-01-21 8:01 AM She deleted it. Let it go
Personally I'm frustrated knowing a lot of these people will end up disabled and on my tax bill due to their own noncompliance when they could be healthier if they just did as they were instructed. I don't mind paying for folks who cannot help their condition, but hearing about this crap grinds my gears.
This would be a better topic to discuss. People mooch off of us because of their desire or lack of control or who knows what and get out of control. |
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Location: Midwest Farmer's Daughter: Central Illinois | 3canstorun - 2014-01-21 7:59 AM barrelracr131 - 2014-01-21 8:01 AM She deleted it. Let it go
Personally I'm frustrated knowing a lot of these people will end up disabled and on my tax bill due to their own noncompliance when they could be healthier if they just did as they were instructed. I don't mind paying for folks who cannot help their condition, but hearing about this crap grinds my gears. This would be a better topic to discuss. People mooch off of us because of their desire or lack of control or who knows what and get out of control.
Don't get me started on people like that.
My mother is transferring to a different department & will no longer be hands-on. For this reason.
Oh, & the hospital she works for has gone all 'customer service' instead of 'patient service' & they don't give a chit about employee satisfaction. |
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Location: Texas | The OP did NOT violate any HiPPA laws if she did not state name, DOB, SS# or patient ID #. Perhaps this is not the ideal place to vent, but as a healthcare professional that is how people learn from each other. They bounce ideas off each other. Doctors do grand rounds all the time to discuss patients treatment t and outcomes all the time. So y'all quit slamming the OP she did nothing wrong professionally nor morally. |
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So, carry on without me........
ps....people are stupid and should be allowed to weed themselves out......give it a good try......then move on to the next person that want's your help and advise.......can't save em' all........
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | LRQHS - 2014-01-21 11:47 AM I cannot participate in this conversation as it will make my blood pressure rise and I will want to poke my eyeballs out with toothpicks.......AND, everyone knows how much I HATE TOOTHPICKS!!!
So, carry on without me........
ps....people are stupid and should be allowed to weed themselves out......give it a good try......then move on to the next person that want's your help and advise.......can't save em' all........
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | LRQHS - 2014-01-21 10:47 AM I cannot participate in this conversation as it will make my blood pressure rise and I will want to poke my eyeballs out with toothpicks.......AND, everyone knows how much I HATE TOOTHPICKS!!!
So, carry on without me........
ps....people are stupid and should be allowed to weed themselves out......give it a good try......then move on to the next person that want's your help and advise.......can't save em' all........
Whoooaaaa, I got me a dislike....OH NO lol! Let me reword here..... change that to....
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Location: Golden Gulf Coast of Texas | grullagirl - 2014-01-21 11:23 AM
Wow I didn't see her original post but unless she named a person or put details that would make it obvious who she was talking about, why is she being labeled unprofessional? Do you have to be a doctor to discuss specific patient issues on this forum without being slammed? I know for a fact that happens and have never seen anybody say anything about it. I guess we're all human and who you are sometimes affects how you're treated...
Totally agree!!!! Have seen numerous docs discuss patients and no one jumped on them. I have worked in the medical field for 30 years and she did nothing wrong. |
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| I work in Alberta, and I guess we have much stricter confidentiality laws, as we cannot speak specifics outside of the hospital, no specific lab results, this is why I made the first comment. We are not to provide any information that could identify a certain client.
With today's technology, anything can be found, and with lawyers who sue for malpractice they will find that information.
Myself I a, not willing to gamble my liscence on what is or is not in violation of confidentiality laws.
Also to the op yes it is frustrating, I swear I have seen it all, find that one person at work to talk to, seek guidance in your nursing instructors. I spoke with one instructor a few times in my first year.
Now you are a professional, and the crappy thing about that is you should act like a professional at all times, as things you do outside of work clients will hold it against you especially of you work in a small town.
The other thing is Facebook, I know there have been nurses in Canada fired over posting photos of themselves in the hospital with no patients in the picture, I suggest if you have not looked into your licensing body's regulation and your employers policy |
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Location: Midwest | cheryl makofka - 2014-01-21 12:00 PM I work in Alberta, and I guess we have much stricter confidentiality laws, as we cannot speak specifics outside of the hospital, no specific lab results, this is why I made the first comment. We are not to provide any information that could identify a certain client. With today's technology, anything can be found, and with lawyers who sue for malpractice they will find that information. Myself I a, not willing to gamble my liscence on what is or is not in violation of confidentiality laws. Also to the op yes it is frustrating, I swear I have seen it all, find that one person at work to talk to, seek guidance in your nursing instructors. I spoke with one instructor a few times in my first year. Now you are a professional, and the crappy thing about that is you should act like a professional at all times, as things you do outside of work clients will hold it against you especially of you work in a small town. The other thing is Facebook, I know there have been nurses in Canada fired over posting photos of themselves in the hospital with no patients in the picture, I suggest if you have not looked into your licensing body's regulation and your employers policy
you must have stricter laws
doctors here discuss patient results here all the time during rounds. This is a teaching hospital and they still operate under HIPAA guidelines.
things like test results and other general information, such as gender, weight, age, etc are not governed by HIPAA.
HIPAA relates to facial photographs, name, ss#, DOB, medical record number... specific patient identifiers. I can't tell you if what she said was a violation since I never saw it, but everything on this thread is acceptable. |
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| If discussing pt cases in this manner is grounds for punishment, then someone is going to be very busy and needs to get started. You will haft to find every person that's has ever attended medical training, took continuing education classes, has attended a seminar or conference, has contributed to a text book, has been employed by or a student at any kind of medical facility, has done any volunteer work with any kind of medical purpose, or has had a friend /relative/ knows someone in the same town that........
While there is a time and place for everything, there was no HIPAA violation if there was no identifying information given. I had a pt that ....... is simply discussing a case and as I said this happens EVERYWHERE . Weather it is formal or informal discussing cases is a must for those in any medical field, this is how we learn and develop other perspectives on a situation. Do you really want a Dr. who has not discussed treating a pt with heart disease with anyone anywhere sense he got his license 30 years ago?
If work can not be discussed on hear than it needs to apply to everyone. So for everyone attacking the OP I assume I will see you voice a similar opinion next time a teacher vents a little about the kid in her class that wipes his boggers everywhere, or even when a horse trainer comes on hear and discusses a clients horse? Do these, and many other people with whom you choose to do business, not have personal information and situations that you do not want out?
Everyone must make there own personal decision about what is to be discussed and where. Although I personally do not discuss my pts on the internet (and cannot due to the non disclosure agreement I have sighed with my employer), I have no right to attack someone else for the personal choices they have made as to what is appropriate. This is why we have such laws as HIPAA so that we have set guidelines as to what can and cannot happen, if everyone had the right to punish someone else based on there own personal opinions, to put it frankly, we would all be screwed. |
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Location: Texas | grullagirl - 2014-01-21 11:23 AM Wow I didn't see her original post but unless she named a person or put details that would make it obvious who she was talking about, why is she being labeled unprofessional? Do you have to be a doctor to discuss specific patient issues on this forum without being slammed? I know for a fact that happens and have never seen anybody say anything about it. I guess we're all human and who you are sometimes affects how you're treated... I did see the origional post. She did not name names or put any specific info other then it was a middle aged male. Basically just talked about how his levels were off and pretty much didn't care. He wasn't taking care of himself and she was frustrated.
I haven't chimed in because I don't know exactly what can and can't be said... but I didn't think it was out of line, and I couldn't pick this person out if I tried.
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Location: ND | BMW - 2014-01-20 10:57 PM Names or no names, I hope you never have anything to do with my health care or anyone I know. BHW, nor any other gossip forum, is the place to vent about patients.
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Location: ND | BMW - 2014-01-21 12:46 AM hammer_time - 2014-01-21 12:29 AM BMW - 2014-01-20 8:57 PM Names or no names, I hope you never have anything to do with my health care or anyone I know. BHW, nor any other gossip forum, is the place to vent about patients. Vent aside.....You wouldn't want someone to genuinely care about your health? To see you so close to improving but you still not take action?
im sure we all have done something a bit unprofessional at some point, knowingly or unknowingly. Cut her some slack.
to the OP....I used to work with this VERY obese guy when I worked fast food. He was a cool guy, but so large, and so unhealthy. He hadn't been to the doctor in 10 years at least and I know that if he did go, they would probably tell him that he would die if he carried on the way he was. He was pushing 500, maybe more. I offered to make him healthy food options, but he always declined. It was very friustrating because I had a lot of healthy options and solutions and he just went for they fried foods everytime......I kinda know how you feel. How much slack would the department director cut the OP upon reading what she said about a patient on a public forum? Act like a professional!
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Location: North Dakota | barrelracr131 - 2014-01-21 12:06 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-01-21 12:00 PM I work in Alberta, and I guess we have much stricter confidentiality laws, as we cannot speak specifics outside of the hospital, no specific lab results, this is why I made the first comment. We are not to provide any information that could identify a certain client. With today's technology, anything can be found, and with lawyers who sue for malpractice they will find that information. Myself I a, not willing to gamble my liscence on what is or is not in violation of confidentiality laws. Also to the op yes it is frustrating, I swear I have seen it all, find that one person at work to talk to, seek guidance in your nursing instructors. I spoke with one instructor a few times in my first year. Now you are a professional, and the crappy thing about that is you should act like a professional at all times, as things you do outside of work clients will hold it against you especially of you work in a small town. The other thing is Facebook, I know there have been nurses in Canada fired over posting photos of themselves in the hospital with no patients in the picture, I suggest if you have not looked into your licensing body's regulation and your employers policy you must have stricter laws
doctors here discuss patient results here all the time during rounds. This is a teaching hospital and they still operate under HIPAA guidelines.
things like test results and other general information, such as gender, weight, age, etc are not governed by HIPAA.
HIPAA relates to facial photographs, name, ss#, DOB, medical record number... specific patient identifiers. I can't tell you if what she said was a violation since I never saw it, but everything on this thread is acceptable.
Cheryl Makofka is correct in my personal opinion. Doctors in the United States can discuss patient results during rounds because they are discussing with patient caregivers (hospital employees) and all should have signed confidentiality statements.
I believe it is incorrect to say that HIPAA relates only to facial photographs, etc. Specific medical information, even without mentioning a name, is a serious HIPAA violation. We do have strict laws in the US governing them. She did delete the information because I saw nothing, which is a good thing. |
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-01-21 12:06 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-01-21 12:00 PM I work in Alberta, and I guess we have much stricter confidentiality laws, as we cannot speak specifics outside of the hospital, no specific lab results, this is why I made the first comment. We are not to provide any information that could identify a certain client. With today's technology, anything can be found, and with lawyers who sue for malpractice they will find that information. Myself I a, not willing to gamble my liscence on what is or is not in violation of confidentiality laws. Also to the op yes it is frustrating, I swear I have seen it all, find that one person at work to talk to, seek guidance in your nursing instructors. I spoke with one instructor a few times in my first year. Now you are a professional, and the crappy thing about that is you should act like a professional at all times, as things you do outside of work clients will hold it against you especially of you work in a small town. The other thing is Facebook, I know there have been nurses in Canada fired over posting photos of themselves in the hospital with no patients in the picture, I suggest if you have not looked into your licensing body's regulation and your employers policy
you must have stricter laws
doctors here discuss patient results here all the time during rounds. This is a teaching hospital and they still operate under HIPAA guidelines.
things like test results and other general information, such as gender, weight, age, etc are not governed by HIPAA.
HIPAA relates to facial photographs, name, ss#, DOB, medical record number... specific patient identifiers. I can't tell you if what she said was a violation since I never saw it, but everything on this thread is acceptable.
If the discussion is done in hospitals during rounds that is in compliance with the laws as anyone who works or is a student at a hospital signs a confidentiality agreement.
The information that one employee collects and shares has to be crucial to direct patient care.
It is frustrating as my brother is a paraplegic, and grandmother is old. I cannot look at their records, and staff cannot share information with me. I had to get both family members to sign a release specifying any or all the information they will the nurse/doctor to share with me. |
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Bring back that loving feeling, now it's gone, gone, gone
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If you would only love me like you used to do
We had a love, a love, a love you don't find every day
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | barrelracr131 - 2014-01-21 1:28 PM did you watch cocktail yesterday? LOL ETA I meant top gun
Nope, but I am feeling a bit loveless right now.......I'm gonna proabably need a hug....
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Location: Florida.. | I didnt read it as I said before.. I dont think you did anything illegal.. I know you all like to discuss things.
I guess I just felt that medical discussions regarding patients should be kept between medical personel. My previous post wasnt condoning you at all just want to make sure you know that. It is just a opinion of mine that I think ALL drs and medical people need to remember this is a public forum and not place to talk about patients . others feel differantly .. just was my opinion. I dont think its right. is it Illegal ? no.. is it right ? I personally dont think so.for ANYONE.. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | barrelracr131 - 2014-01-21 1:38 PM I'm gonna hug you anyway
I picture it going like this
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | no 'and then'! |
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Location: MI | cheryl makofka - 2014-01-21 12:00 PM
I work in Alberta, and I guess we have much stricter confidentiality laws, as we cannot speak specifics outside of the hospital, no specific lab results, this is why I made the first comment. We are not to provide any information that could identify a certain client.
With today's technology, anything can be found, and with lawyers who sue for malpractice they will find that information.
Myself I a, not willing to gamble my liscence on what is or is not in violation of confidentiality laws.
Also to the op yes it is frustrating, I swear I have seen it all, find that one person at work to talk to, seek guidance in your nursing instructors. I spoke with one instructor a few times in my first year.
Now you are a professional, and the crappy thing about that is you should act like a professional at all times, as things you do outside of work clients will hold it against you especially of you work in a small town.
The other thing is Facebook, I know there have been nurses in Canada fired over posting photos of themselves in the hospital with no patients in the picture, I suggest if you have not looked into your licensing body's regulation and your employers policy
I'm in MI (duh) and the hospitals here take it very seriously as well. We recently had some area hospital staff fired over discussing a patient on Facebook. No names, etc, but enough details that they fired the employees over the situation. No, the HIPAA law does not specifically govern Facebook, and actually, in one our my hospitals meetings they said that it doesn't apply to text messaging either (I believe because the law was written prior to all of this tech). But, some hospitals are still VERY sensitive on it, and honestly, probably should be. I'd hate to see staff blabbing about me. I am NOT a good patient! |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | Three 4 Luck - 2014-01-21 1:08 PM Middle aged overweight dude not taking care of his diabetes really narrows things down, doncha think?
that is hardly specific enough to identify someone...that is my point
HIPAA laws are very strict and are taken seriously... however I have never heard of someone getting fired for taking a photo in a hospital. If they are specific enough to be able to identify someone, that is an issue.. this was not even close...
talking about an obese, older person who fails to take care of their diabetic issues is hardly unique in this day and age...at least in the US...
Edited by barrelracr131 2014-01-21 2:49 PM
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Crazy Doggy Mommy
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | Thank you all for your opinions- I certainly didn't speak about this on facebook nor do I ever about my pts. I have seen numerous posts on here about healthcare subjects and am still not sure why I became a target. I'm over the pt and his self destructive ways either way I got my vent out :) happy trails folks  |
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 Thick and Wavy
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Location: Nebraska | When in doubt, just don't say anything :) A lot of students here have gotten kicked out of nursing school for just posting that they witnessed a birth today at clinical. No identifying info, but people can find out where you are, then when you were there, then what babies were born during that time, and eventually what baby you are talking about. There are some creeps out there that'll do all of that. We had a huge talk about posting anything on the internet about work because chances are your coworkers will "like" or comment on it and then between all of you, a little info gets out unintentionally. Better to just be safe than sorry. It would suck to put in years of work to get to be a nurse and have it taken all away for a simple comment that you thought was harmless.
Instead of saying my patient's, it would have just been better to say that it frustrates you when people don't take care of themselves after they are given all the information about how to take care of themselves properly. |
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Vent about my patients health history!