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| How much would you expect to pay for a well broke prospect, not started on barrels and 3 or 4 years old? Wouldn't have to have good bloodlines but would be nice. I'm not looking at anything specific but would like to buy one this year and just wondering what my price range should be. So please don't advertise any prospects, just want to know how much I should be saving. Would 2,000-4,000 be reasonable? Thanks for any input! |
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Location: Oklahoma & Texas | Not started on barrels..not a popular bloodline but with some riding time completed...3 to 4 yr old...likely in 3k-3500 range...good bloodlines but not seeing a barrel yet more like 5 to 6k with a good start... |
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The Advice Guru
Posts: 6419
 
| Not popular bloodline I would say 2000, popular bloodlines it looks like 15000 is asking rate |
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Posts: 2097
Location: Deep South | For well broke I would expect $3-5k. |
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 Undercover Amish Mafia Member
Posts: 9992
Location: Kansas | Call me a cheapo but I've seen several go for $1,500, prospects that is. |
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 The BHW Book Worm
Posts: 1768
| for 3-4 generation back popular blood line/ no names but registered 1000-2000. up and coming blood lines 2000-4000. the popular ones 4-well you get the idea. this is just my experience for unbroken 2 year olds |
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Pig-Bear Dog Lover
| I think your on track with what to expect. .. but I wouldn't pay 5k.. UNLESS the horse had some kind of miraculous handle.. and decent lines. |
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 Cute Little Imp
Posts: 2747
Location: N Texas | Probably anywhere from $2-3k. Three years ago I bought a coming three year old that was already very broke and had a great handle, so all I had to do was pattern him. Unfortunately he was sold as grade, so I have no clue what his bloodlines are, but he's the perfect size and is put together nice, so since he was already so well started, I wasn't worried about papers. I paid $1,500 for him.
If they're already broke and going good, bloodlines don't mean as much to me personally. |
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 Gotta Have a Gray
Posts: 899
Location: Tex. Panhandle | I picked up my new guy in Dec for under $4,000. He is 4 1/2 broke with a nice handle and is working a good pattern. Just wasnt gonna cut it as a 5 yr old futurity horse. He is by awesome chorme (first down dash) o/o a roll the cash/special effort mare
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/awesome+disco |
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Posts: 602
| Great bloodlines, solid foundation but not started on barrels. Under $5k |
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Posts: 4625
Location: Desert Land | I would expect $4-5k range for some broke but not name brand bred. Name brand bred $7,500+ |
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 Coyote Country Queen
Posts: 5666
| There are so many variables. Yeah, you can find horses like this in the $2,000-$4,000 price range. But if you think about the expenses that a person has into raising and training a horse, I'd be wondering why the horse is so cheap. |
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Posts: 1631
Location: Somewhere around here | I agree with everyone here on the prices but it also depends on where you are located. Where I live I could probably find a great prospect with good bloodlines selling for $2,000 maximum. But down in some parts of TX that same horse could be sold for $7,000. |
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Posts: 1196
Location: Wide open spaces, Canada. | Around here 6500 for nice bloodlines and a good start |
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  That's White "Man" to You
Posts: 5515
| I think people here have a very different opinion of NICE bloodlines and a NICE start. |
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Posts: 2067
| I think that is to broad a question. It depends on the area you are in. Depends on what is good bloodlines to you granddaughter/son greatgrandaughter/son greatgreat get of some name brand horses top and bottom or some working bloodline that isnt known in the barrel world? I mean my opinion of good bloodline is WAY different from some people I know. Also do you mean well broke as just a nice handle put on by the owner or has been sent to a reining trainer for a few months training? Because I can tell you I send mine to a reining trainer for 60-90 days and that is $600 a month. I wouldnt be able to find a prospect with that kind of handle and my idea of good bloodlines for that price i wouldn't think. I raise most of mine though and I can say that I have WAY more than that in them by that age. Now a ranch bred horse with a decent handle around here I would say you could get for $3500-$4,000 |
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 Am I really the Weirdo?
Posts: 11181
Location: Kansas | I bought this horse as a well-broke 8 year old that hadn't been started on barrels. http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/behold+he+reigns He failed as a racehorse because he didn't like starting gates or bats, then failed as a bulldogging horse because he didn't like the box. By the time I got him, two owners had given up on him and he was priced to sell. I've been THRILLED with him and think I got the steal of the century paying under $1,000 for him. I'm so happy I'm considering buying another from his original breeder, maybe even something related to him.
Cliff's bloodlines aren't the popular name brands but there is a lot of old speed on there and some barrel horse breeding (Hempen, Jet Deck) on top. I found out after I bought him that one of his dam's older colts is now a bulldogging horse and several of his sire's colts have gone on to run barrels. His breeder has some colts out of a full brother to Cliff that are 3-4 years old and never quite made it to the track, and they're priced lower than $2,000 because he just has them sitting in the pasture so they might as well go somewhere and try a new career.
I would sure think $4,000 would get you a nicely bred registered prospect in that age range. I paid $2,750 for my good rodeo horse when he was a 4 year old super super broke prospect ready for the pattern. Dash for Cash is one off his papers and he's double bred Harlan on the top side so again, not the "name brand" barrel bloodlines but good stuff there nonetheless.
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 You get what you give
Posts: 13030
Location: Texas | Yeah you can find something like that. Not sure how nice of the handle but there are deals out there. |
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Impressive!!
Posts: 1954
Location: Idaho | I've paid between $4-8k for a prospect. The last one I bought, was a 4 yr old mare by Captain Biankus out of a proven producing daughter of New Design. She had a good solid foundation, had not seen the barrels yet. I paid $4250 for her. But for my impluse buy, I didn't do a vet check, and we just found bone chips in both feltocks that we paid to remove ($2500) ... luckily, she is a 1D/2D horse with the bone chips, so I am very excited to see what she can do without them this year.
Now on another note... if I were to sell one of my super well bred colts 3 years old, good foundation well broke, not started on barrels, you are probably looking at no less then $7500... |
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | I purchased a palomino 3 yo with running and cow lines unstarted for $300 :D. The owner passed and his wife sold all the stock to the slaughter guy so got a steal. Normally she would be priced in the 1000's if purchased when guy was alive.
Prices can range greatly in the area you live as well. Here you dont see the 15000 horses in our county as unstarted prospecst |
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 IMA No Hair Style Gal
Posts: 2594
| Just to give you something to go off of a bit...
Most prospects retail for about three times the stud fee.
Obviously this is not concrete, but a place to start when looking at pricing.
Things that are more difficult to factor in is the mare power, training, and "ability."
Of course you could probably find a cheap papered quarter horse any day of the week. I have had four registered quarter horses I have paid less than $800. Only one became a super star. Only two of those horses were "going" and had their fair share of issues that had to be fixed, all but one turned into decent horses, the one that didn't, about flipped over on me and that was a bit too much to mess with for my taste. We ended up trading with a friend for a horse for my husband.
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 Saint Stacey
| Personal experience makes me disagree with a bunch of these posts. I've paid more for an unbroke prospect than what a bunch are saying you should pay for a well broke one.
If you have a horse that has top bloodlines, the looks and mind to match the pedigree, plus you research and see that the breeder usually gets top dollar, then you can easily pay $3,500+ for an unbroke 2 or 3 year old prospect. I have two of those types right now.
Those REALLY nice prospects are now 6 and 3. The 6 year old we were offered $20,000 for when she was 4 and only on barrels for a few months. The now 3 year old, I wouldn't sell for that amount and she is just started on the pattern. Why? Because the dam has more than proven she is going to throw a barrel horse no matter what she is bred to and her other foals have gone for way more than I paid for the two I have. She's had 6 foals by 5 different stallions and all 4 that are now in the barrel pen have a ton of run, rate and turn.
Research the product you are buying and then decide what your pocketbook can afford. If you can't afford a lot, start small. But make sure what you get is as complete of a package as what you can comfortably afford.
Not to sound snotty, but there is a vast difference in quality prospects as compared to just a normal, everyday type of horse. A normal, everyday type of horse has it's place. But look at what your goals are (and what your budget is) before just purchasing a horse. And if you can afford it, don't ask BHW if it's too much or you might miss out of a heck of a horse because some view it as being too much.
Edited by SKM 2014-01-23 6:23 AM
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 Shelter Dog Lover
Posts: 10277
| I bought a weanling for $2500 and sold her as 3 year old with 30 days on her for 5k. |
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Gotta Have a Gray
Posts: 899
Location: Tex. Panhandle | I have a granddaughter of FWOTR out of the proven BA75 bred mare that I am looking at. Have to tell you, it has been a long time since I have paid what they are asking for a weanling. BUT, i know the ability FWOTR produces and I know the mares line. I really thing she will be worth it in the long run.
Agree, just do your research |
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IMA No Hair Style Gal
Posts: 2594
| Just to add more to the convo...
Stay within budget and work your way up. That is what I did.
So far it has worked for me.
My current prospect I gave $6,500 for, and I would do it again....but he has more of the name brand papers...is double bred Bugs Alive in 75....grand get of Dash for Perks, but is not as "name" brand as others.
I suppose the point I was trying to make is yes you can find cheap, cheap, cheap papered horses, and you can buy pricey horses.
It can all be a gamble really, so just buy what you can and do the best you can with what you have, and work your way up from there.
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I Wanna Go Fast!!
Posts: 12556
| I have had no name horses and I've had several name brand. I will never buy another no name again. I'd rather pay more and have better odds than totally guessing. In my experience you get what you pay for. Everything SKM said is true. I would suggest spending as much as you can on a horse that's breeding fits what style you can ride, not what you like but what you can ride. There's a difference :) |
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