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| I made a few posts a few months back, but ended up having to make another account because my laptop quit on me and I had no way of getting my login info.
Anyway, I had asked about a mare who was hesitating at the gate, not finishing food, swishing her tail and not wanting to lope in a certain direction. I'm positive she has ulcers. I was told by quite a few people to try THE GastroPlus... I tried it and it just didn't cut it for her. She still has the same problems. My vet is telling me to go for GastroGard, but I do not have the money to do that. What is the best ulcer treatment out there for it's price and what is the best follow-up supplement? |
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| Ranitidine - your vet can order it for you. It will run you about $80 every two weeks maybe even cheaper. Takes longer for it to heal the ulcers compared to Ulcer Gard but it will heal them. Then, and while your giving her the ranitidine, I would put her on Aloe Juice, cut back on grains and replace with Rice Bran, and maybe start feeding alfalfa about 30 min before giving her feed. The alfalfa will get the healthy juices(for lack of the correct word) in her belly to produce and help reduce the onset of Ulcers. This is the cheapest route I have found to fight off Ulcers.
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| Cowgirl Kat - 2014-01-27 5:01 PM
Did you have her scoped?
I did not have her scoped, but my vet told me that she wouldn't waste the money on it, that she is positive that ulcers are the problem. |
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Location: Texas | Omeprezole can be bought in generic form.
www.horseprerace.com Their prices are reasonable for the paste.
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Location: Broxton, Ga | htschmancypony - 2014-01-26 6:09 PM Cowgirl Kat - 2014-01-27 5:01 PM Did you have her scoped? I did not have her scoped, but my vet told me that she wouldn't waste the money on it, that she is positive that ulcers are the problem.
For what it is worth..........but recently a vet was positive that a friends horse had ulcers....thought that was the reason for colic like symptoms.......treatment was going to be $1000.00........had scoped NO ulcers....I had a mare that had 1st barrel problems...........my vet also thought ulcers.......scoped.........No ulcers......personally I think the "ulcer" diagnoses is overrated.......... |
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| FlyingJT - 2014-01-27 5:07 PM
Ranitidine - your vet can order it for you. It will run you about $80 every two weeks maybe even cheaper. Takes longer for it to heal the ulcers compared to Ulcer Gard but it will heal them. Then, and while your giving her the ranitidine, I would put her on Aloe Juice, cut back on grains and replace with Rice Bran, and maybe start feeding alfalfa about 30 min before giving her feed. The alfalfa will get the healthy juices(for lack of the correct word) in her belly to produce and help reduce the onset of Ulcers. This is the cheapest route I have found to fight off Ulcers.
How long are you supposed to keep them on Ranitidine? |
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| U gard works and it's low cost. Also Platinum Performance also would help.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | GastroPLUS treats front and hind gut ulcers. Money back guarantee as well. Message me if interested. |
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Location: afton, mn | I PM you about a product called Allay breaks down to about $1.41 a day. I tryed this on my barrel horse who had quite eating his grain. Had to mix it with water and used a syreng and squirred it in his mouth the first 2 days. by the 3rd day he was cleaning up all his grain. he's back to his old self and feeling great. I also switched to Triple crown Sr feed. It's a soft pellet and easyier to digest.
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Location: mi | I did 2 rounds of Ulcercure OTC and then a round of equisure (for hindgut ulcers). Not sure which one helped but they are both pretty reasonably priced and well worth a try. |
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Location: God's country...aka TEXAS | The Oxy-Gen ulcer treatment program is $250 and it's a 2 week treatment, so they get better faster. It treats HIND and FORE gut ulcers. My horse had sever ulcers and after the 2 week treatment, he was back to himself. |
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Location: North Dakota | Douglas J Gordon - 2014-01-27 9:25 PM ulcercure otc, I guarantee it.
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I've had good luck with this! Still looking for a tried and true preventative.
The person that said ugard (which is pelleted or powder from valley vet etc) did not cure my horse, but it does make him feel better. |
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| newracer - 2014-01-27 8:35 PM FlyingJT - 2014-01-27 5:07 PM Ranitidine - your vet can order it for you. It will run you about $80 every two weeks maybe even cheaper. Takes longer for it to heal the ulcers compared to Ulcer Gard but it will heal them. Then, and while your giving her the ranitidine, I would put her on Aloe Juice, cut back on grains and replace with Rice Bran, and maybe start feeding alfalfa about 30 min before giving her feed. The alfalfa will get the healthy juices(for lack of the correct word) in her belly to produce and help reduce the onset of Ulcers. This is the cheapest route I have found to fight off Ulcers. How long are you supposed to keep them on Ranitidine?
Once I feel like I have seen significant improvement and that I have them healed, could take 2 months or 4 just never know. I will then take them off the rahnitidine and stick with the aloe juice, rice bran, etc. I will, however, give them it the day before, day of, and day after a race, just to help and make sure that the stress doesn't trigger them. It has worked very well for me. I do have one gelding that I have kept on it everyday but just cut the amount I was giving him back unless we have a "more than normal" stress level. But he's been the only one i've had to do that with. The others healed up and have been fine.
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Location: Texas | Sounds like your horse is probably worse than mine ever was. But I have had great success using Seabuck Complete both to heal and as preventative maintenance. I can't say 100% for sure that my horse had actual ulcers cuz I never had him scoped, but he always seemed to have a crabby attitude. Tried numerous products with no significant, lasting results. Finally tried the Seabuck Complete and over time he got less and less crabby. I put all three of my horses on it now as a preventative and it seems to be working great. |
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Location: Land Of Oz | What doseage did you do on THE GastroPlus and how long did you give it for? |
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Location: South TEXAS | Fun2Run - 2014-01-27 5:15 PM
Omeprezole can be bought in generic form.
www.horseprerace.com Their prices are reasonable for the paste.
i just started a paste like this from my vet and it is much cheaper than the gastroguard. |
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| Healing an uncer takes a specific amount of medicine for a specific amount of time. Do the research and find the cheapest product, but don't skimp on the healing.
As far as maintenance -- more forage and less grain product first and foremost. All the supplements in the world aren't going to change how a horse digests food. I can't begin to describe the change in my guys since I swapped bagged feed for high quality alfalfa. Frisky - yes, hot - no, zero signs of colic even with the crazy weather we've had this winter. Better water intake, lovely poop quality and consistency. I have two who always show some slight colic signs when the temps and barometer fall. I've seen nothing all winter. |
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Location: Bandera, TX | lonely va barrelxr - 2014-01-28 10:59 AM Healing an uncer takes a specific amount of medicine for a specific amount of time. Do the research and find the cheapest product, but don't skimp on the healing.
As far as maintenance -- more forage and less grain product first and foremost. All the supplements in the world aren't going to change how a horse digests food. I can't begin to describe the change in my guys since I swapped bagged feed for high quality alfalfa. Frisky - yes, hot - no, zero signs of colic even with the crazy weather we've had this winter. Better water intake, lovely poop quality and consistency. I have two who always show some slight colic signs when the temps and barometer fall. I've seen nothing all winter.
Winner Winner Chicken Dinner! Thanks for saying this. OP, you must treat your horse with the approp. meds. But you have to be horseperson enough to realize what the culprit is thats sending your horse off the cliff and make adjustments.
I trusted a hay source this year that has caused me some issues. I'm adding a supplement that has taken care of the lignin issues but if I would have done as always and tested it MYSELF, my horses would not be in this situation.
More grain is NOT better, better quality correct grains are needed for some horses but what all horses need is QUALITY roughage.
And I defer from Lonely on this, I've added a supplement to my program to allow my horses to better utilize their forage/roughage. I've researched and seen what it has done for the dairy industry and the science is there to back it up. It's a travesty what all of this marketing has done to our industry when it comes to feeds for horses.
OP, I hope your horse gets well soon, we all live and learn and boy have I done my share of hard learning. You got a great resource in this board. |
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| Ranitidine and Sulcrafate works as well as anything I've ever tried and is a whole lot cheaper! |
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| uno-dos-tres! - 2014-01-28 11:28 AM lonely va barrelxr - 2014-01-28 10:59 AM Healing an uncer takes a specific amount of medicine for a specific amount of time. Do the research and find the cheapest product, but don't skimp on the healing.
As far as maintenance -- more forage and less grain product first and foremost. All the supplements in the world aren't going to change how a horse digests food. I can't begin to describe the change in my guys since I swapped bagged feed for high quality alfalfa. Frisky - yes, hot - no, zero signs of colic even with the crazy weather we've had this winter. Better water intake, lovely poop quality and consistency. I have two who always show some slight colic signs when the temps and barometer fall. I've seen nothing all winter. Winner Winner Chicken Dinner! Thanks for saying this. OP, you must treat your horse with the approp. meds. But you have to be horseperson enough to realize what the culprit is thats sending your horse off the cliff and make adjustments.
I trusted a hay source this year that has caused me some issues. I'm adding a supplement that has taken care of the lignin issues but if I would have done as always and tested it MYSELF, my horses would not be in this situation.
More grain is NOT better, better quality correct grains are needed for some horses but what all horses need is QUALITY roughage.
And I defer from Lonely on this, I've added a supplement to my program to allow my horses to better utilize their forage/roughage. I've researched and seen what it has done for the dairy industry and the science is there to back it up. It's a travesty what all of this marketing has done to our industry when it comes to feeds for horses.
OP, I hope your horse gets well soon, we all live and learn and boy have I done my share of hard learning. You got a great resource in this board.
Pre and probiotics really aren't the supplement type I was thinking of! LOL! Yes, by all means, if you have a horse that has had or has clinical symptoms of ulcers pre and probiotics as a long term (possibly permanent) supplement is very intelligent. Especially after deworming or any NSAID use. |
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Location: The Great Northwest | FlyingJT - 2014-01-29 6:23 AM newracer - 2014-01-27 8:35 PM FlyingJT - 2014-01-27 5:07 PM Ranitidine - your vet can order it for you. It will run you about $80 every two weeks maybe even cheaper. Takes longer for it to heal the ulcers compared to Ulcer Gard but it will heal them. Then, and while your giving her the ranitidine, I would put her on Aloe Juice, cut back on grains and replace with Rice Bran, and maybe start feeding alfalfa about 30 min before giving her feed. The alfalfa will get the healthy juices(for lack of the correct word) in her belly to produce and help reduce the onset of Ulcers. This is the cheapest route I have found to fight off Ulcers. How long are you supposed to keep them on Ranitidine? Once I feel like I have seen significant improvement and that I have them healed, could take 2 months or 4 just never know. I will then take them off the rahnitidine and stick with the aloe juice, rice bran, etc. I will, however, give them it the day before, day of, and day after a race, just to help and make sure that the stress doesn't trigger them. It has worked very well for me. I do have one gelding that I have kept on it everyday but just cut the amount I was giving him back unless we have a "more than normal" stress level. But he's been the only one i've had to do that with. The others healed up and have been fine.
i had my mare scoped and found ulcerations. I decided on the Ranitidine. It is a regimen of every 8 hours as prescribed by the vet for 30 days. After that, be sure there is always hay to nibble on. A horse produces acid constantly and needs to chew to produce the saliva that neutralizes the acid. The should be for hours constantly with out something to eat. |
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