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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | So my grandpa passed in early October and my grandma passed the May before that so we have been dealing with going threw things and the estate. Anyways he had a dog. This dog was his BEST friend. Especially after my grandma passed. He is a pretty good boy but has a lot of energy. My brother always promised my grandpa if something happened that he would take his dog. So when he passed he took him right away. He was very very depressed and wouldn't eat but is doing a lot better now. They have a baby now and he doesn't do so well with her. He doesn't understand he can't jump on her or be crazy around her. Again...a lot of energy and gets way excited!! He barks all the time and wakes her up and things like that. My brother that took him is my dad's step son and my grandpa is my brothers step grandpa.
My brother called my mom tonight and said he needs to do something with him. They can no longer deal with him and they feel really bad but it's what's best for their daughter, which is understandable. But my dad is going to get upset. We really don't have room for another dog especially a larger wild one. He doesn't do good being outside(my brother tried) and they've tried training. He's older also.
Just feeling upset and worrying about what's going to happen with him. I don't know how well he will do going to someone new. And no one in our family that knows him is really in the position to take him. |
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| Poor dog, I am sorry I don't get people you promise a dying man something then when it doesn't work out for you get rid of the problem.
I was in the same situation my grandfather died and we got both his dogs, but they stayed with us till they died of old age.
There are people who train dogs, there is a lady south of me that I swear can train anything.
There are weekend dog training courses
Cesar has wrote many books
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Location: West Tennessee | cheryl makofka - 2014-01-29 10:18 PM Poor dog, I am sorry I don't get people you promise a dying man something then when it doesn't work out for you get rid of the problem. I was in the same situation my grandfather died and we got both his dogs, but they stayed with us till they died of old age. There are people who train dogs, there is a lady south of me that I swear can train anything. There are weekend dog training courses Cesar has wrote many books Poor dog living in a disposable society
I'm sorry but was this necessary?
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Location: Iowa, LA | That's really tough! Maybe a local rescue could find the right home for him? I told my hubby that when I die, put my babies down with me! No one would put up with their spoiled butts! |
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Location: Great NW | cheryl makofka - 2014-01-29 8:18 PM Poor dog, I am sorry I don't get people you promise a dying man something then when it doesn't work out for you get rid of the problem. I was in the same situation my grandfather died and we got both his dogs, but they stayed with us till they died of old age. There are people who train dogs, there is a lady south of me that I swear can train anything. There are weekend dog training courses Cesar has wrote many books Poor dog living in a disposable society
I have to agree. take the dog to some obediance classes. A promise is a promise. |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | I understand what your saying. If he was mine I would make it work and he will most likely end up coming to our house to live. He is 7 I believe so not old but old enough that he spend 7 years with my grandpa doing things he did and the way he did things so it's hard to change that. My grandpa let him be wild and my brother took him thinking they would be able to control it but it doesn't work. He is better but doesn't do well around the baby. He will not just go to any person that is willing to take him. My brother feels very bad about doing this but he feels it's not fair the dog to keep him outside or in his kennel. They really thought it would work and he is sick over it...knowing he made this promise to my grandpa. |
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Location: Buffalo, TX | speedjunkie - 2014-01-30 10:23 AM cheryl makofka - 2014-01-29 8:18 PM Poor dog, I am sorry I don't get people you promise a dying man something then when it doesn't work out for you get rid of the problem. I was in the same situation my grandfather died and we got both his dogs, but they stayed with us till they died of old age. There are people who train dogs, there is a lady south of me that I swear can train anything. There are weekend dog training courses Cesar has wrote many books Poor dog living in a disposable society I have to agree. take the dog to some obediance classes. A promise is a promise.
I have to agree here also, but I know it's tough, and sometimes you have to hope someone else in your family will step up and take the dog to make it easier for you, or you need to look at other options to make it work so you can honor your promise....I would put in a nice big kennel where he could stay when you weren't walking him or working with him.....and take him to obedience classes and put in an effort to make it work....I just happen to think that people give up too quick without researching more options first.....and it's not the dog's fault...he deserves a loving forever home....
That being said.....My long time SO passed away last May and I agreed to take his older, wilder than wild and meaner than mean Jackrat dog....he has upset everything at my place, and terrorizes my other dogs, but there's no way I would ever get rid of him....I accept that I have to work around him and I can't let kids around him and I have to be careful with my other dogs.....even though he stays in the house with me and my little weenie dog at night, my backyard is fenced and I had a big kennel put back there in case I had to separate him from my 2 big dogs to stop a fight.....the thought never occured to me to get rid of him just to make things easier on myself.....he has a home here for life....
We all love animals here, so maybe someone will offer him a good home....otherwise, I hope you can make it work....
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Location: West Tennessee | lexyy12 - 2014-01-30 10:49 AM I understand what your saying. If he was mine I would make it work and he will most likely end up coming to our house to live. He is 7 I believe so not old but old enough that he spend 7 years with my grandpa doing things he did and the way he did things so it's hard to change that. My grandpa let him be wild and my brother took him thinking they would be able to control it but it doesn't work. He is better but doesn't do well around the baby. He will not just go to any person that is willing to take him. My brother feels very bad about doing this but he feels it's not fair the dog to keep him outside or in his kennel. They really thought it would work and he is sick over it...knowing he made this promise to my grandpa.
Well, you must be more mature than me -- or nicer?
Your brother made a promise he thought he could keep and that would relieve your grandpa's mind. He took the dog in & he has tried according to you. His new baby has to come first and if it's not working out, no one should make him feel guilty for having to re-group.
I feel bad for the dog, too & I believe that you are making a commitment to an animal when you purchase or adopt one but some times things just can't be helped. It could very well be that putting the dog to sleep would be kinder than him/her getting passed around and being unhappy or neglected.
Hugs to your family and I do hope everything will work out for your family & the pup. I got the feeling you just needed to share and personally didn't think 'blasting' you or your brother was very productive..... But kudo's to you for not getting piffy.
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Location: Nowhere Special | Thats a tough one he tried to do the right thing and keep his promise by taking the dog. Not knowing just how "wild" wild is and what all they have given a good solid effort to making it work makes it hard to say one way or the other. Hopefully he will be able to find him a good home and not do something awful like take him to the pound.
My Mom has a FAT, mean as a snake, wrotten little chi yorkie cross thing that hates my guts and attempts to bite me if I try to pet him. I told her if she passes I'm gonna shoot him with a 22 in the kitchen! LOL Seriously tho I'd take him and pet him everyday with welding gloves till we worked it out, its just what you do! :) |
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| lexyy12 - 2014-01-30 10:49 AM I understand what your saying. If he was mine I would make it work and he will most likely end up coming to our house to live. He is 7 I believe so not old but old enough that he spend 7 years with my grandpa doing things he did and the way he did things so it's hard to change that. My grandpa let him be wild and my brother took him thinking they would be able to control it but it doesn't work. He is better but doesn't do well around the baby. He will not just go to any person that is willing to take him. My brother feels very bad about doing this but he feels it's not fair the dog to keep him outside or in his kennel. They really thought it would work and he is sick over it...knowing he made this promise to my grandpa.
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | He would never take him to the pound or anything like that! Never!! He may end up keeping him because of the promise and makin it work. He is the farthest from mean any dog could ever be. He is a springer spaniel I believe. He runs and jumps like a deer and has a tongue like a horse. He will probably come to our house(like that's what we need) lol but that's what will probably happen. I didn't get upset or mad because I know what I'm dealing with when I post on here. I expected some replies like that and that's their opinion and that's ok. |
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| lexyy12 - 2014-01-30 11:14 AM He would never take him to the pound or anything like that! Never!! He may end up keeping him because of the promise and makin it work. He is the farthest from mean any dog could ever be. He is a springer spaniel I believe. He runs and jumps like a deer and has a tongue like a horse. He will probably come to our house(like that's what we need) lol but that's what will probably happen. I didn't get upset or mad because I know what I'm dealing with when I post on here. I expected some replies like that and that's their opinion and that's ok.
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Location: Buffalo, TX | jetgetset - 2014-01-30 11:02 AM Thats a tough one he tried to do the right thing and keep his promise by taking the dog. Not knowing just how "wild" wild is and what all they have given a good solid effort to making it work makes it hard to say one way or the other. Hopefully he will be able to find him a good home and not do something awful like take him to the pound.
My Mom has a FAT, mean as a snake, wrotten little chi yorkie cross thing that hates my guts and attempts to bite me if I try to pet him. I told her if she passes I'm gonna shoot him with a 22 in the kitchen! LOL Seriously tho I'd take him and pet him everyday with welding gloves till we worked it out, its just what you do! :)
OMG....this remark seriously made me spit my tea out....LOL....when I pick up "Goose" (the Jackrat) off of the loveseat in the morning to put him in my sunroom for the day while I'm at work I have to put heavy gloves on and wrap him in a blanket because he's going to act like a rabid dog.....but we co-exist somehow.... |
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| Cindy Hamilton - 2014-01-30 11:17 AM jetgetset - 2014-01-30 11:02 AM Thats a tough one he tried to do the right thing and keep his promise by taking the dog. Not knowing just how "wild" wild is and what all they have given a good solid effort to making it work makes it hard to say one way or the other. Hopefully he will be able to find him a good home and not do something awful like take him to the pound.
My Mom has a FAT, mean as a snake, wrotten little chi yorkie cross thing that hates my guts and attempts to bite me if I try to pet him. I told her if she passes I'm gonna shoot him with a 22 in the kitchen! LOL Seriously tho I'd take him and pet him everyday with welding gloves till we worked it out, its just what you do! :) OMG....this remark seriously made me spit my tea out....LOL....when I pick up "Goose" (the Jackrat) off of the loveseat in the morning to put him in my sunroom for the day while I'm at work I have to put heavy gloves on and wrap him in a blanket because he's going to act like a rabid dog.....but we co-exist somehow....
Oh my gosh! This is a hoot - I can just PICTURE you ladies with gloves on trying to love up on these dogs! Too funny! Bless your hearts. I love animals like that too! |
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Location: Iowa, LA | I've taken in several Dane rescues. Everyone knows that I love them, so they call me when one is in need. Well, I took in a huge boy who had bitten his owner's little boy. I met him and asked what the circumstances were and when he told me the little boy was throwing sand in his face, I about came unglued and said I'd take him. That poor dog was scared to death of men and in an aggressive way! When you have a 150 lb male Dane ticked off, it's kinda intimidating! LOL
Chief was only a year old and immediately took to me, but actually grabbed my dad by the leg when he got to close to me! Dad saw that as a challenge and knew Chief loved taking walks, so he began walking him for me every morning. In no time he earned his trust and never had an issue again. Every new male that was introduced to Chief had to go through the same process of earning his trust. He grabbed legs/arms of several who did not heed my warning of taking it slow.
One day I took him to the vet and warned her of his history, but when she went to clip his nails, he bit her. I left there crying and apologizing and felt devestated. I would never want him to hurt someone and feel responsible. A few weeks or months later I heard him come unglued on my boyfriend. It scared me! I ran into the living room and asked him what he had done. He said he just went to grab his toy to throw it and Chief got mad. He begged me to forgive him, but I said it was time. I could no longer live with the constant worry and fear of him hurting someone and would never forgive myself if he did.
The morning I euthanized him, I'll never forget. My niece (who he loved) had spent the night and we all slept in bed together. When we were about to leave to take her to school she said, "Wait ! I've got to give Chief a kiss goodbye!" Not knowing that would be the last time she saw him. It was heartbreaking to watch her grab his face and kiss his nose for the final time! She was only 5 and I didn't tell her what was about to happen.
Sometimes life throws us hard decisions. Every situation is different and you just have to follow your heart. There is no right and wrong for every situation. None of us have a right to judge you or your brother. You guys know what is best for him and his situation! It killed me to do that to Chief because he had not once shown aggression towards me and looked to me for security, but I just couldn't forgive myself if someone had been seriously hurt by him.
I hope that y'all can place him in the right home, but don't let us pass judgement onto you for the decision you make. Good luck! |
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Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright, TX | “He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away”.
Your grandfather is not in Heaven crying tears over this situation. This is a left-behind situation you all need to deal with in a manner that works for all of you. If the training hasn't helped and it's been truly tried with no improvement, they do recover moving to a new situation, plenty have gone through worse and they have found new wonderful lives in a situation that works for them. I can't imagine clinging to a legacy of keeping an unruly dog that isn't fitting into the living situation as the only "thing" my departed loved one left behind. Sucks to have to rehome an animal in any situation but you do what you have to do. Keep the focus on what the dog needs...he needs something that's right for him, look at it that way instead.
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Location: West Tennessee | Tilt The Kilt - 2014-01-30 12:15 PM “He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away”.
Your grandfather is not in Heaven crying tears over this situation. This is a left-behind situation you all need to deal with in a manner that works for all of you. If the training hasn't helped and it's been truly tried with no improvement, they do recover moving to a new situation, plenty have gone through worse and they have found new wonderful lives in a situation that works for them. I can't imagine clinging to a legacy of keeping an unruly dog that isn't fitting into the living situation as the only "thing" my departed loved one left behind. Sucks to have to rehome an animal in any situation but you do what you have to do. Keep the focus on what the dog needs...he needs something that's right for him, look at it that way instead.
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | Thank you! My parents have been talking and it's not something we can do right now. My sister does a lot with rescues so she is looking into finding him a home. My brother said he would keep him if we can't find someone we trust to take him and he is feeling guilty. We really want to find someone that we know to take him so we can keep tabs on him. My grandpa passed on a Sunday morning and was found Monday afternoon and that poor dog laid with my grandpa the whole time and never even went potty on the floor. He went though a lot losing my grandpa and we want him to be as happy as can be.
Thanks for the kind words. I sort of just needed to get it out last night and of course this is the place I do it. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | jetgetset - 2014-01-30 10:02 AM Thats a tough one he tried to do the right thing and keep his promise by taking the dog. Not knowing just how "wild" wild is and what all they have given a good solid effort to making it work makes it hard to say one way or the other. Hopefully he will be able to find him a good home and not do something awful like take him to the pound.
My Mom has a FAT, mean as a snake, wrotten little chi yorkie cross thing that hates my guts and attempts to bite me if I try to pet him. I told her if she passes I'm gonna shoot him with a 22 in the kitchen! LOL Seriously tho I'd take him and pet him everyday with welding gloves till we worked it out, its just what you do! :)
It's all fun and games until you have a 150 lbs Malamute that you have on a logging chain and feed with welding gloves. My dad was a sucker for rescues when I was a kid and got this crazy dog that had been kept in a kennel so short he couldn't stand up in it. He would have literally killed you and ate you had he had a chance. My dad kept him on this chain and fed him daily with the gloves on (just in case) and he eventually became one of the family, running loose on our 5 acres and never bothered the horses. He lived a good life until he was about 10yrs old. Average for such a big breed dog.
Knowing what I do now and having kids of my own. I would have shot the dog so he no longer suffered and knew my kids were safe. BUT my dad was one to give it a try and us kids feared the rath of disobeying my dad more than we feared the dog. He loved to be petted but we knew when it was hot, that he would be in a fowl mood and to leave him alone.
To the OP. I feel bad that your brother is in that situation. Those breeds of dogs are hyper and high energy. We had 2 when I was a baby. They mostly lived outside (until they were stolen) :(
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | Thanks guys! We are now trying to find him the PERFECT FOREVER home for him. |
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Location: Texas | lexyy12 - 2014-01-30 9:15 PM Thanks guys! We are now trying to find him the PERFECT FOREVER home for him.
When I go, my husband will keep my dogs but if for whatever reason he doesn't want them/can't keep them/isn't alive or whatever they will go to another person. (everyone is aware of who I want them to go to).
That being said, I would love for me to say my dogs are going here and everyone will be a big happy family when I am gone... That isn't always the case and I understand that. They may not be in a position to take them at the time, my dogs may hate their dogs, my dogs may be too much for them. Also if I had a grand baby in the mix with all of this that may get hurt by one of my rowdy dogs, and the dog may "suffer" because he can't really be a part of the family. I hope they find a good home for my dogs instead of banishing them to a back yard just to keep a promise.
I would rather my dogs and my family be happy with the situation, then everyone be miserable over a promise made to me. I understand keeping a promise, but if it were me and things didn't work out... I would be completely ok with my dogs going to someone (even someone that I didn't know) that would be able to love them and have them be part of the family like I do. I am trusting that the people that take my animals when I go will make the right decision for the animals, even if that means they can't keep them.
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| dme0324 - 2014-01-30 12:47 PM Tilt The Kilt - 2014-01-30 12:15 PM “He will wipe away every tear from their eyes, and death shall be no more, neither shall there be mourning, nor crying, nor pain anymore, for the former things have passed away”.
Your grandfather is not in Heaven crying tears over this situation. This is a left-behind situation you all need to deal with in a manner that works for all of you. If the training hasn't helped and it's been truly tried with no improvement, they do recover moving to a new situation, plenty have gone through worse and they have found new wonderful lives in a situation that works for them. I can't imagine clinging to a legacy of keeping an unruly dog that isn't fitting into the living situation as the only "thing" my departed loved one left behind. Sucks to have to rehome an animal in any situation but you do what you have to do. Keep the focus on what the dog needs...he needs something that's right for him, look at it that way instead. I wish I could hit 'like' a million times.
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Location: Never in one place long | :( SO sorry, that breaks my heart! I hope he finds a LOVING, caring and patient person that he can learn to heal and bond with. He must have really LOVED him! Dogs DO have emotions! |
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