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This person claims to be a representative for AWHP! Good grief... if she had it her way the horses would starve to death in a matter of weeks! |
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| I HOPE that she meant from 75 to 150 acres per horse! Out where she is talking about you need a lot of acres of range to support a horse or cow/calf unit. |
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| rodeoveteran - 2014-01-31 4:37 PM
I HOPE that she meant from 75 to 150 acres per horse! Out where she is talking about you need a lot of acres of range to support a horse or cow/calf unit.
You must be familiar with the area! I was told by an old cowboy once, "it takes two cows to make a hamburger when they came off that country!"
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Location: Texas! | I have to wonder if all the "greenies" got their way and there was only free range livestock and no GMO's how quickly we would starve. urban sprawl folks. It cannot work. |
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Location: Texas! | I almost died laughing! Comparing your children being takene away because you were an alcoholic to weaning!
Horse Screams
I have made it a habit of late to once a week travel the 20 miles out to the BLM wild mustang gulag out in the Nevada desert and take these magnificent creatures some carrots for a treat. It seems the horses have been deemed in need of management by the management of our federal lands for the reason of humanness we are told. As mankind gobbles up and fences off more and more of the horses natural meadows, and drain the water, BLM captures the horses with helicopters, places them in segregated holding cells or pens, tattoos or numbers them, sells off some into servitude or for slaughter, and for the rest, to remain in captivity on the starkest of lifeless dirt, with no shade from the summer sun and no heat or barn for the winter cold. They are fed well, but with the economic trouble we are in, there are plans to exterminate them soon.
Today I went out and as usual, bought some organic carrots with bright green tops to throw to the horses their fear of mankind is so great that only with extreme patience will they even approach. But today was different, many of the horses, perhaps a hundred or so were being held in a central pen and the others ran from me as I approached. The screams of agony from that central pen was beyond anything I had ever heard. Normally I only walk around the perimeter of the prison to avoid contact with BLM employees who had lied to me in the past. I walked around the compound and horridly threw the carrots to the horses. But I had to know why there were so many horses screaming, what was wrong. So I went into the compound and then into the main office and was told that today the mother horses were being separated from their children. I asked why, and the woman said because they had too. It was so sickening outside, the sounds of terror, horses trying to get through the metal fences that separated their families, other horses hysterically trying to control the insanity, and the young ones running around in circles crying or screaming for their mothers.
I lost my children in much the same way some years ago, but to hear and see it being done again by people who do not feel, sense, or know was beyond my capacity. And in such great numbers, the terrible energy was beyond me. I left in such a hurry and raced my motorcycle home. I called the news companies. and humane society, but most I think were only interested in me, my name, and my address.
I don’t drink anymore, but today I needed to get drunk. It was so wrong and so sad for me, but much much worse for those poor creatures I had brought carrots too today.
They were screaming in pain.
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| cyount2009 - 2014-01-31 4:55 PM
rodeoveteran - 2014-01-31 4:37 PM
I HOPE that she meant from 75 to 150 acres per horse! Out where she is talking about you need a lot of acres of range to support a horse or cow/calf unit.
You must be familiar with the area! I was told by an old cowboy once, "it takes two cows to make a hamburger when they came off that country!"
I spent 8 years running team with hubby in the semi....got to see most all of this country and am grateful for it. We looked at property in many states, and in the White Mtns.
My idea of Heaven is the area around Santa, Idaho......we looked at 2 places up there but nobody wanted to deal so we ended up back here. I still dream of that area almost 30 years later......sigh..... |
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| I'm hoping she got her numbers reversed. She needs to drive down I35 just north of Pauls Valley, Ok and look at all the "wild mustangs" the government is ware housing on once prime grazing and hay pastures. The government bureaucracy that's "managing" the mustangs would make Wild Horse Annie cry today. Never did she imagine the mustangs being relocated hundreds of miles to facilities that treats them similar to zoo animals (compared to the thousands of acres they were accustomed to living on). |
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Location: LaCygne, KS | Hopefully she had weaned her kids before "they" took them away from her. Wouldn't want them screaming (with joy).
And thank goodness she fed "organic" carrots, because we all know that the horse evolved eating "organic " carrots. Not those GMO tainted vegies we get in these corporate ran super markets today.
Oh sh_t, Three fur Luck just reported that "they" haven't invented Round Up Ready carrots yet.
Has a fix for stupid been invented yet???
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Location: Madill Ok | theres another gigantic herd of these horses on hwy 99 north of tishomingo at the wapanucka turn off, on both sides of the hwy in someones pasture. Must be a lot of money being paid to keep them for us tax payers. Does anyone know how much these places are paid per horse??
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Location: on my horse | As a BLM Wild Horse and Burro employee involved in the daily care and management of both gathered and wild horses articles like this make me want to  
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Location: Midwest | rodeoveteran - 2014-01-31 4:37 PM
I HOPE that she meant from 75 to 150 acres per horse! Out where she is talking about you need a lot of acres of range to support a horse or cow/calf unit.
I don't think 150 horses would even FIT on one acre of land. |
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Location: Texas! | Joleen - 2014-01-31 6:23 PM theres another gigantic herd of these horses on hwy 99 north of tishomingo at the wapanucka turn off, on both sides of the hwy in someones pasture. Must be a lot of money being paid to keep them for us tax payers. Does anyone know how much these places are paid per horse??
I dont see any hay out there for them either but dont go that way too often.
Some friends of ours are paid somewhere around $100,000 to keep a herd of about 300 on their ranch (they no longer run cattle just hay) had to redo a bunch of their fencing for them so the horses don't get hung in the barb wire. |
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| BMW - 2014-01-31 6:27 PM
I'm hoping she got her numbers reversed. She needs to drive down I35 just north of Pauls Valley, Ok and look at all the "wild mustangs" the government is ware housing on once prime grazing and hay pastures. The government bureaucracy that's "managing" the mustangs would make Wild Horse Annie cry today. Never did she imagine the mustangs being relocated hundreds of miles to facilities that treats them similar to zoo animals (compared to the thousands of acres they were accustomed to living on).
If you notice at Pauls valley and any other mustang warehousing .... the BLM pays for panels to run around the entire pasture on the inside fence line .... that is big bucks to begin with ..... 250 are maintained at Pauls Valley .... they are supposed to get adoptions for 25% of them per year and of course they get paid a certain amount for holding the mustang auctions and a premium on those that find homes ....
The BLM and Interior Dept pays 500- 600 a head per month ... it is one of those brother-in-law deals that is done in a closet ... lol .. |
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Location: OK | And mustang "families" stay together for life? Holy geez. No you idiot. When the mare is ready, she "weans" that baby herself, by kickin his rear until he leaves her alone, or....he keeps sucking her and she nearly starves to death.
The "family"? uh-huh, yeah. the stud makes babies with all the mares, then when the colts are old enough, they kick them all out of the house and make them go live alone until they steal mares from some old man and kick his @$$ or kill him. The fillies, well, we know what happens to them. Yep, pretty noble if you ask me, if you think inbred ghetto is noble. lol
I love how a lot of people have absolutely no idea about animal nature. It ain't Disney.
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| I cant stand the wild mustang BS that goes on in Nevada. I love to hear the dumb locals complain that the wild horses are eating their nice lawns and making their roads horrible due to all the poop but they wont let anyone remove them from the area.
Watch this video..... Why would you let your kid stand behind a wild horse?
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Location: That part of Texas | spitzh - 2014-02-03 12:04 PM I cant stand the wild mustang BS that goes on in Nevada. I love to hear the dumb locals complain that the wild horses are eating their nice lawns and making their roads horrible due to all the poop but they wont let anyone remove them from the area. Watch this video..... Why would you let your kid stand behind a wild horse? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEY9sHhnbJc
Never mind him standing behind one of them (which was bad) -- how about the one who could have very easily bitten off a face? What's worse is that those horses now will be looking for people to get treats from. |
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Location: Midwest | Red Raider - 2014-02-03 12:31 PM
spitzh - 2014-02-03 12:04 PM I cant stand the wild mustang BS that goes on in Nevada. I love to hear the dumb locals complain that the wild horses are eating their nice lawns and making their roads horrible due to all the poop but they wont let anyone remove them from the area. Watch this video..... Why would you let your kid stand behind a wild horse? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEY9sHhnbJc
wow. this is why folks should have to pass an IQ test to reproduce.
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| WYOracer - 2014-01-31 6:07 PM
I almost died laughing! Comparing your children being takene away because you were an alcoholic to weaning!
Horse Screams
I have made it a habit of late to once a week travel the 20 miles out to the BLM wild mustang gulag out in the Nevada desert and take these magnificent creatures some carrots for a treat. It seems the horses have been deemed in need of management by the management of our federal lands for the reason of humanness we are told. As mankind gobbles up and fences off more and more of the horses natural meadows, and drain the water, BLM captures the horses with helicopters, places them in segregated holding cells or pens, tattoos or numbers them, sells off some into servitude or for slaughter, and for the rest, to remain in captivity on the starkest of lifeless dirt, with no shade from the summer sun and no heat or barn for the winter cold. They are fed well, but with the economic trouble we are in, there are plans to exterminate them soon.
Today I went out and as usual, bought some organic carrots with bright green tops to throw to the horses their fear of mankind is so great that only with extreme patience will they even approach. But today was different, many of the horses, perhaps a hundred or so were being held in a central pen and the others ran from me as I approached. The screams of agony from that central pen was beyond anything I had ever heard. Normally I only walk around the perimeter of the prison to avoid contact with BLM employees who had lied to me in the past. I walked around the compound and horridly threw the carrots to the horses. But I had to know why there were so many horses screaming, what was wrong. So I went into the compound and then into the main office and was told that today the mother horses were being separated from their children. I asked why, and the woman said because they had too. It was so sickening outside, the sounds of terror, horses trying to get through the metal fences that separated their families, other horses hysterically trying to control the insanity, and the young ones running around in circles crying or screaming for their mothers.
I lost my children in much the same way some years ago, but to hear and see it being done again by people who do not feel, sense, or know was beyond my capacity. And in such great numbers, the terrible energy was beyond me. I left in such a hurry and raced my motorcycle home. I called the news companies. and humane society, but most I think were only interested in me, my name, and my address.
I don’t drink anymore, but today I needed to get drunk. It was so wrong and so sad for me, but much much worse for those poor creatures I had brought carrots too today.
They were screaming in pain.
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for a while i was boarding my horses myself, at a small place that i rented, it had a barn and turn out but no ring, so i rode on trail most of the time, i only had 2 horses at the time so when i went on trail, one horse would scream for the other... someone who was walking past called the cops twice because she thought someone was abusing the horse.
the first time the police officer was very nice about it, i told him after a week or two they'd settle down when they figure out we always come back.
the second time the police officer was not so nice and told me if they get a call again i'd end up getting fined for "disturbing the peace"
i moved shortly after.
some people are really ignorant, and don't have the patience to learn the "why" they just jumped to the wrong conclusion every time.
we've gotten complaints for "blind folding" (fly masks) our horses before.... not even kidding.... |
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