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Thrush, help! (updated to include pictures)
Longneck
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2014-01-31 7:10 PM
Subject: Thrush, help! (updated to include pictures)


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 One of my geldings has Thrush.  He has (what I thought to looked like lameness) some trouble walking, but the vet just said that he needed Kopertox for 7-10 days and his "sore feet will heal up" and he figures he'll be rideable again after that time.... Today was my third day of medicating him (he stays in the pasture and the ground isn't soggy/muddy) and he seemed to be having a bit more trouble walking (it was on gravel, so I'll give him that) so I now have penned him up in his own lot on completely dry ground and his only water source is in a trough.  I believe I am going to start medicating him morning and evening and keep him away from the pond.  It's really only his front two hooves since his back ones stay dry while getting a drink.  

Will two times a day be too much?  I think I am going to try cleaning (vs. my regular picking and brushing with a hoof brush) his feet out with hydrogen peroxide since I read somewhere that oxygen will kill the thrush.

Is it possible that he is just "sore" and hopefull it's not done more serious damage?  I meant to take a picture to show y'all, but I forgot since I had gloves on and didn't want to contaminate my phone.
I've been reading a wealth of information online about cures, but each one has their advantages and disadvantages.... please share with me what has worked for you!!


Edited by Longneck 2014-02-01 4:45 PM
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komet.
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2014-01-31 7:15 PM
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Make sure the area between the bars and the frog is trimmed out so it cannot hold wet muck. Keep the feet dry. Some folks believe bleach will help keep the sole dry and hard. Certainly it will kill bacteria.
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2014-01-31 7:32 PM
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Bleach also kills live tissue so if you can stay away from that Id suggest it. I do know some use it though.. thrush will make them very sore.. keep him dry.. thrush buster works wonders.. I have had only had one bad case of thrush on a hind foot and i would take a syringe and syringe in the crevices (((after i cleaned  real good)  betadine and also neosporin ( call me crazy ) then id thrush buster it as well. 2 times a day... took a week and it cleared up.. prevention is good..  
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Barnmom
Reg. May 2006
Posted 2014-01-31 7:51 PM
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I like to scrub the frogs really good with some dish soap and a small brush, then rinse well with a spray nozzle so the water can flush all the crud out of the crevices.

I have had good luck with Koppertox, neosporin mixed with athletes foot cream, or Listerine mixed with a little mineral oil.  I just use whatever I have on hand, the important thing is to use a syringe to squirt whatever you are using into any deep crevices. 
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-01-31 7:55 PM
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There is a liquid called thrush buster it is awesome. It comes with a toothbrush you pour it on then brush it in to the foot and frog.
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cow pie
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2014-01-31 11:10 PM
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If you can and know how trim up the frog a little and apply Koppertox to the v closest to the bulb and use a stiff brush to scrub into the crevices of the hoof. If your horse is limping he may have an abcess that needs addressed as well. I have good luck using provodine/iodine and regular iodine
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pookey
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2014-02-01 12:19 AM
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Koppertox never worked for my gelding with chronic thrush. I tried the thrushbuster and it worked ok, but after a lot of research I tried Lysol and it cleared it up very quickly.
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equussynergy
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2014-02-01 8:22 AM
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I've seen good results with no-thrush and once a week oxine soaks, put pea gravel in loafing areas. For super stubborn cases I've used a combination of betadine and peroxide. I apply it daily for a week then every other day for a week. Then I switch back to no-thrush. I've never had luck with koppertox or thrush buster.
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lexyy12
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2014-02-01 10:07 AM
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I do not use bleach unless I have to. Mine get a little occasionally because it's so wet out here. Usually in one foot and it's not bad because I watch their feet and clean them almost daily. Kate had a little so I was treating it and it wasn't getting better and she was very sore. I used bleach...morning and evening for 2 days and she was fine and the thrush was gone. I usually use thrush x
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total performance
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2014-02-01 10:20 AM
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 Mastytis medicine for cows.  Works wonders. 
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Longneck
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2014-02-01 4:44 PM
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Here are his front hooves. Are they absolutely horrible? I like the clean I get from the peroxide, but I need something powerful for healing. I bought some Tomorrow paste since I've read good things about and not many good things about the Kopertox

[IMG]http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p614/LandiGS/IMG_20140201_105416_403.jpg[/IMG]
 

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jd&ez
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-02-01 4:53 PM
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Longneck - 2014-01-31 7:10 PM  One of my geldings has Thrush.  He has (what I thought to looked like lameness) some trouble walking, but the vet just said that he needed Kopertox for 7-10 days and his "sore feet will heal up" and he figures he'll be rideable again after that time.... Today was my third day of medicating him (he stays in the pasture and the ground isn't soggy/muddy) and he seemed to be having a bit more trouble walking (it was on gravel, so I'll give him that) so I now have penned him up in his own lot on completely dry ground and his only water source is in a trough.  I believe I am going to start medicating him morning and evening and keep him away from the pond.  It's really only his front two hooves since his back ones stay dry while getting a drink.  



Will two times a day be too much?  I think I am going to try cleaning (vs. my regular picking and brushing with a hoof brush) his feet out with hydrogen peroxide since I read somewhere that oxygen will kill the thrush.



Is it possible that he is just "sore" and hopefull it's not done more serious damage?  I meant to take a picture to show y'all, but I forgot since I had gloves on and didn't want to contaminate my phone.

I've been reading a wealth of information online about cures, but each one has their advantages and disadvantages.... please share with me what has worked for you!!

The best thing I've ever used is Equine Relevare Hoof Dressing. It's made by the same people that made the Miracle leg paint. It is by far the best hoor dressing I ever used as well.

It is harder and harder to get now. The last I found was at Stockhoffs just outside of Louisville, Ky. They will ship nationwide. It's expensive for hoof dressing but worth every penny in my opinion.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-02-01 5:03 PM
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Longneck - 2014-02-01 4:44 PM

 [IMG]http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p614/LandiGS/IMG_20140201_105416_403.jpg[/IMG][IMG]http://i1158.photobucket.com/albums/p614/LandiGS/IMG_20140201_104818_250.jpg[/IMG]Here are his front hooves. Are they absolutely horrible? I like the clean I get from the peroxide, but I need something powerful for healing. I bought some Tomorrow paste since I've read good things about and not many good things about the Kopertox

I would suggest getting a farrier out and cleaning up the foot.

I would pare away at the frog till I got fresh tissue, and I would pare away at the sole 1/2" all the way around the frog.

After the foot is cleaned up then I would take hoof testers and see where the horse is sore, if he tests positive on the frog, there is a good chance thrush is under the frog. I had this happen, my vet used iodine crystals and turpentine on the foot. A chemical reaction occurred the frog and sole burned along with the thrush, horse was sound in a week, no other treatment was necessary.
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SaraJean
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2014-02-01 6:05 PM
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You've got much more going on there then just thrush. Your horse has very underrun heels, contracted frog & way to much toe. I would treat the thrush but I'd also get a good farrier under him and get him trimmed properly.
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roanrobey
Reg. Jun 2004
Posted 2014-02-02 12:59 PM
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That foot has some issues that a farrier needs to address before you will ever get rid of the thrush.

See that deep crack between his heel bulbs that runs into the frog? There is thrush deep in that groove and its probably 1/2" deep or better. I bet that is where your horse is sore. 

It is possible for thrush to eat its way into the foot capsule and do serious damage as well as could be life threatenting.

No hoof, no horse.

How often is this horse being trimmed?
 
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Southtxponygirl
Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-02-02 1:18 PM
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Oh my goodness that foot is a mess, I think you better get a good farrier to help you out, that foot needs some cleaning up befor you will be able to do your horse any good.  At least your on the right track trying to help it. 
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Honeymoney
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2014-02-02 1:19 PM
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If you are trying to kill bacteria with Chlorox, forget it. Thrush is a FUNGUS and anything that kills bacteria has little effect on fungus. I have always used Coppertox or Thrush X which is the same thing. These products create a moisture barrier--try washing that stuff off your hands!! You can put it on the horse a couple of times a day. If the horse is really lame it may take a few days to see results. If your vet said the horse has thrush. I would just follow his directions. From what I can see in the picture, the horse MAY have contracted heels.

Thrush stinks bad. As long as the horse has it, his foot will stink.
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Bibliafarm
Reg. Jul 2008
Posted 2014-02-02 1:27 PM
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you must use a syringe though and be diligent with the meds.. put it deepin crevices for a few days.. take a syringe and q tips or cotton balls and shove in there with meds. betadine wash and meds.. do this few times a day.. thrush buster is great .. as well after the other meds are applied. im sure he is sore sore.. then after its cleared up you have to do try to prevent it .. so thursh x every other day etc..on those prone areas.turpintine etc.. 
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Leo
Reg. Feb 2004
Posted 2014-02-02 1:41 PM
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skeeter 777
Reg. Mar 2006
Posted 2014-02-02 4:39 PM
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adollarforannie
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-02-02 4:39 PM
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I have a horse that gets thrush every so often and have tried it all .... Kopertox , thrush buster , mastitis med , dry cow , and triple antibiotic with athletes foot cream , bleach etc etc etc. GET " NO THRUSH ""
Works fantastic !! I do agree you need to get a good farrier on those feet. If you can't find no thrush locally go on eBay.
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adollarforannie
Reg. Dec 2010
Posted 2014-02-02 4:40 PM
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I have a horse that gets thrush every so often and have tried it all .... Kopertox , thrush buster , mastitis med , dry cow , and triple antibiotic with athletes foot cream , bleach etc etc etc. GET " NO THRUSH ""
Works fantastic !! I do agree you need to get a good farrier on those feet. If you can't find no thrush locally go on eBay.
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Used2B
Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2014-02-03 9:06 AM
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I am no hoof expert but that's one of the worst hooves I've ever seen. He'd be sore/lame on that hoof even with no signs of thrush. His toe is too long and he has no hoof around the back of his frog?? I don't know what the proper term for that is but it looks painful. As for the thrush...I've had the best luck using penicillin that you buy from TSC and applying it in the cracks with a syringe with no needle. Its really cheap and works within about 3 days.
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Runninonthebuck
Reg. Jan 2008
Posted 2014-02-03 9:35 AM
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 I used to have a thrush problem that has completely gone away after fixing the under run/contracted heels issue my horse had. I would use thrush buster and address the trimming issue.
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Longneck
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2014-02-03 10:52 AM
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Thanks so much, everyone! 

I have reached out to a lameness farrier and if I can't get a response out of him today I will go down to the next one on my list. 
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dashnlotti
Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2014-02-03 12:21 PM
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My farrier uses copper sulfate for thrush.  Put a small amout in a water bottle, fill with water, shake it up.  You can poke a hole in the lid and squirt it that way, or use a syringe for better accuracy.  We used to be believers in Thrush Buster, but this works much faster and is cheap.  One bag will last forever.  It kills the thrush without drying out the hoof.
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