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Otro Fracaso Stud
Lil_Pony35
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2014-02-03 9:20 AM
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What does everyone think of his babies and how are they doing in the arena. I am looking into a son of his.

Side note; anyone know what the translation means
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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2014-02-03 9:45 AM
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I live in CA a few hours from Lyndee. I haven't seen her stud in person, but he sure looks nice and Lyndee has bred some nice prospects by her stud. I like Willie Wanta Dash and Merridoc.

His name translates to another failure or another defeat - which I guess it not appealing when you know what it means, LOL. 
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ThreeCorners
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They are very nice! Otro Fracaso is very under rated and his stud fee is only $1000. He doesnt have all that many foals on the ground and every single one of them really clocks! I watched 4 different ones by him in Arizona last month and all 4 clocked in the 1D. One laid down a 17.1 on a standard set and then 2 others ran a pair of 17.3's. NICE!!  
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Lil_Pony35
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Posted 2014-02-03 9:57 AM
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What a name! LOL. I watched some videos of some and they all look to have the same powerful style.
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Lil_Pony35
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Posted 2014-02-03 11:45 AM
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gunner07
Reg. Jun 2011
Posted 2014-02-03 12:04 PM
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Not impressed with the gelding I know of his, but every stud can have a dud so I'd take that as it is

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TheOldGrayMare
Reg. Nov 2009
Posted 2014-02-03 12:11 PM
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gunner07 - 2014-02-03 10:04 AM Not impressed with the gelding I know of his, but every stud can have a dud so I'd take that as it is

Well you have to take into account that he's only 50% of the genetics on said "dud". 
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gunner07
Reg. Jun 2011
Posted 2014-02-03 12:15 PM
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My point exactly
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Lil_Pony35
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Posted 2014-02-03 5:11 PM
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Why did you think he was a dud?
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drivemaround
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Posted 2014-02-03 5:13 PM
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I really like his babies. I was seriously considering one a few years ago but Lyndee only had weanlings and I wanted a 1-2 year old. The few that are running all seem really nice and seem to run very similar.
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Cowgirl Up!_1
Reg. Jun 2013
Posted 2014-02-03 5:44 PM
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I'd love to breed to him but she only does a few outside breedings thru a couple auctions, unless things have changed. I love my baby from a different Merridoc son and he's always caught my eye so hopefully I get one in a couple years!
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quikchik
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2014-02-03 6:13 PM
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Lol- Google says his name means "Another Failure".

Hopefully that just means they were hoping for a filly after a bunch of colts!
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motorjock
Reg. Nov 2004
Posted 2014-02-03 7:34 PM
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 We flew to California two years ago this March and my daughter tried one of her 4 yr old mares.  She fell in love with her so much that we drove out there 2 months later to pick her up and let her ride with Lyndee a couple days.  My daughter loves this mare, she is smart and doesn't miss a beat and has a good attitude.   Her name is Sippin Diesel and her mother is Sippin Firewater.  Lyndee is great to deal with.  We had met her a couple years earlier at JL when she had some of his horses in training.  From what I understand, she is breeding outside now also. 

This is what she told me. They do breed for $1000 shipped semen only and 95 percent winners from a very small set of mares. For specific questions her contact numbers are on her website.

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zipper
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2014-02-03 8:49 PM
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Willie has a very high percentage of winners and Lyndee has always said his colts have made her job easier. She's sold quiet a few that she had given a good start that went on to be finished out by amatuers. I remember one--that I should have bought--carried her rider to her first sub-18 on a standard pattern and the two later won rodeos in Arizona. That says a lot for their mind and trainablity with a wide variety of riders.

There are several videos on Lyndee's website and also on her youtube channel.
 
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sandlzito
Reg. Feb 2014
Posted 2014-02-03 9:22 PM
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I have a mare by him and absolutely love her in fact if I had a mare to breed it would be bred to him.

My mare was off for over year when I bought her out of Oklahoma unloaded off the trailer later that day rode her nothing bothers her at all quite and loves her job.

Extremly catty quick with a great mind. This will be a fun year. And talk about built and athletic can't ask for much more.

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Lil_Pony35
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2014-02-03 9:22 PM
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motorjock - 2014-02-03 7:34 PM

 We flew to California two years ago this March and my daughter tried one of her 4 yr old mares.  She fell in love with her so much that we drove out there 2 months later to pick her up and let her ride with Lyndee a couple days.  My daughter loves this mare, she is smart and doesn't miss a beat and has a good attitude.   Her name is Sippin Diesel and her mother is Sippin Firewater.  Lyndee is great to deal with.  We had met her a couple years earlier at JL when she had some of his horses in training.  From what I understand, she is breeding outside now also. 

This is what she told me. They do breed for $1000 shipped semen only and 95 percent winners from a very small set of mares. For specific questions her contact numbers are on her website.

Ok don't call me a stalker but I watched every single video you guys have on YouTube. Sippin diesel looks really nice.

They seem to have a four wheel drive style but then I saw a few runs with what looked like more roll back turns.
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Lil_Pony35
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Posted 2014-02-03 9:49 PM
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Thanks for all the replies everyone. This horse had a late start and is 7 and ready to push so I hope this later start won't affect him much!
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HorseMommyFiveO
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2014-02-03 10:15 PM
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I have a coming three year old by him, out of a jets payday mare. LOVE HIM. He's very level headed for such a young colt. Takes everything in stride and hauls better than most older horses. I've been around a lot of them. Very trainable, very forgiving, very fast, and very big. All his babies seem to have a nice short back and ground covering stride, too. Which means they are faster than they look and turn like little horses.
If you go to her website she has a ton of videos of his get. They all have his good mind, without exception that Ive seen. Watch his Race video: He walks into the gate flat footed, stands quietly, and turns on the burners when it's go time. Then watch his colts videos: they walk in the arena, turn it on and kill the clock, then walk out.
She won the Western Speed Horse this summer on a mare out of his early foal crop. She had been in the broodmare pasture with babies, Lyndee pulled her out, tuned her up, and ran a sub-17 on a standard pattern. Doesn't get much better than that. I'd buy more.
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Lil_Pony35
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Posted 2014-02-03 10:48 PM
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So excited to hear about him!
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HorseMommyFiveO
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Posted 2014-02-04 7:26 AM
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If you decide on not buying this gelding, please tell me where/how much. I'd love to have an older "Willy Baby".
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Lil_Pony35
Reg. Mar 2008
Posted 2014-02-04 11:35 AM
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I am sorry to bust your bubble but I think I am going to go for him. Wish me luck!
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bluedoggal
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2014-02-04 3:33 PM
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this is from KATHY VAZQUEZ about her "willy" mare:

I love mine. She is great-minded, athletic, and honest as the day is long. She has an all-business attitude. She has made barrel racing fun. I always have a smile on my face while riding Hershey. She loves her job. I would highly recommend breeding to him if you're looking for a great mind, speed,

athleticism, great conformation, great feet, lots of try and my favorite of all, honesty. I can't thank Lance and Lyndee Stairs enough for giving me the opportunity to own such a great horse.

Kathy Vazquez
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bluedoggal
Reg. Dec 2008
Posted 2014-02-04 3:44 PM
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Lil_Pony35
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Posted 2014-02-04 5:26 PM
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Dang your photo didnt upload
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Wrapn3inAK
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Posted 2014-02-04 5:59 PM
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I have 2 babies of his by my Smart Little Lena mare one is coming 5 stands 16.2 and another coming 2 standing 15.1.  Both these boys have great minds very quiet mionded easy to handle and train.  My coming 5 YO Famous (I Willy Wanna Be A Star) is currently in training for barrels he is a great horse to ride.  The younger version Tres (I'm Willy Smart N Dashin) is awesome, they are both loving horses and are not afraid of anything I have found.  In my opinion you can't beat a Willy baby!



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ThreeCorners
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Posted 2014-02-06 8:38 PM
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 Lyndee Stairs has just posted some video's on her facebook page of 4 different Otro Fracaso horses at last months races. 1 futurity horse, and 3 open horses. All very very nice!
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Lil_Pony35
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Posted 2014-02-07 10:59 AM
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I just saw that. He looks like an under rated stud for sure. He has a great pedigree!
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HorseMommyFiveO
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Posted 2014-02-07 11:06 AM
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Not so much underated, more like our little California secret. :-) she used to only breed him to her own mares, but now that she's standing him to the public his name is taking off. He's PESI, so if you pick up that gelding, check if he may be eligible. I'd give Lyndee a call about training for a few months, too. She knows how they work and what it takes to make them winners.
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Lil_Pony35
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Posted 2014-02-07 12:28 PM
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That is awesome! Do they have to be under a certain age to quality for PESI?
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TheOldGrayMare
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Posted 2014-02-07 3:49 PM
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Lil_Pony35 - 2014-02-07 10:28 AM That is awesome! Do they have to be under a certain age to quality for PESI?

Check here, your horse may already be paid in:

http://wpra.com/pesi_progeny.asp
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TheOldGrayMare
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Posted 2014-02-07 3:50 PM
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If your horse isn't enrolled, this is the form and it has the fees below. There is no age cutoff, the fee to enroll is just higher. 
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Lil_Pony35
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Posted 2014-02-07 5:22 PM
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He is not on there but I will check out the eligibility guidelines!
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