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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | So I've been at some barrel races and I've had a few people ask if I thought about selling my mare and I just say no.
But it's got me thinking about what I would price her at, if I did want to sell her. I've only ever sold 2 horses in my life and that was about 6 years ago and they weren't worth much. So I have no idea.
She is 8 this year, is grade(said to be tb/qh). Has no gate issues, would make a great youth horse, very automatic and consistent. I've never had her take a lame step in the 5 years I've owned her, easy keeper, good for farrier, vet, dentist, chiro, hauls like a champ, sometimes pulls back so we loosely tie her, has a slight pigeon toe but it's never caused problems, she is consistently in the 1D/ top of the 2D at smaller shows. 2D at bigger shows but is contentiously getting faster.
**i am not advertising her for sale**
I don't know if I'm breaking any rules here, but if I am, please let me know.
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Location: Somewhere around here | In my area the most you would get would be $5,000. No papers is a big thing around here, especially since she's a mare. Sorry :/  |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | cecollins0811 - 2014-02-06 12:01 AM
In my area the most you would get would be $5,000. No papers is a big thing around here, especially since she's a mare. Sorry :/
Yeah...that's her one downfall. She is such a nice horse, I bet she would have nice papers but no way to know. |
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| I agree no papers conformational flaws and quirky, top price would be 5000.
Unless she is pulling checks at tough shows. Also of she is running low 17's on regulation then her price would be up. |
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Location: Midwest | I run IN... hard to fine any event that runs on a standard in my area.
Honestly it would depend on who you were selling her to and where she's run at. Also, who was selling her. Prices seem to be all over the place around my area. |
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Location: In The Snow, AZ | In my area, there are people asking off the wall prices for nothing horses. This woman, for instance, has a Morgan/QH and a TWH/QH. Conformationally OK. No papers on either. No special training. Middle aged (13&16). Trail horses. That's all they know. They are for trail riding only. And she wants $4,500 for one and $5,500 for the other. They're still for sale though, going on 6 months.
It's all in what people are willing to pay. I bought my mare for $800 because they couldn't locate her papers. I went into in figuring I would always have a "grade" mare depending on if they ever found papers. They did a few months later. Hancock, Driftwood, Native Dance and a few other good oldies. And she can run and turn a barrel too. She's only been hauled a handful of times. Has clocked in the mid 17's with room for improvement, on a standard pattern. If I look at comparable horses, they go for around $6,000 here. |
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Location: WI | Next time someone asks you, tell them 'Make me an offer' and there ya go! My horses are always for sale :-) |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | I'm thinking people obviously can't be turned off by her conformation because of people coming to me asking about her. To me, papers don't really matter unless I was in it for breeding which I would love to breed her some day because she is so nice but it prob won't happen. And I honestly don't think I would ever sell her...she was the first horse I've ever trained myself and she's so nice to ride and run and I have nieces who could use her as youth in the next few years...it was just a thought as to what I would price her at if I chose to. I believe the arena I normally run at is standard and she is usually between 16.5 and 17. She is one of those that the more you run her in a day, the faster she is. I usually cruise her thru an exhibition and then run ladies and open. She is definitely a free runner that only needs a small check at the first and the rest you kick and hold on! |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | linds - 2014-02-06 12:04 PM
Next time someone asks you, tell them 'Make me an offer' and there ya go! My horses are always for sale :-)
3 different people have asked about her in the last couple of years. Once someone asked my dad while I was out warming up and he said no way and that was it. The other times I'm caught off guard that I don't think before I say no lol. |
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Location: relocated to Texas | cecollins0811 - 2014-02-06 10:01 PM In my area the most you would get would be $5,000. No papers is a big thing around here, especially since she's a mare. Sorry :/
Exactly what I was going to say. People are funny about no papers. |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | Honestly I paid $800 for her as a little pigeon toed, no papered 3 year old that was supposed to be my little 4H project that turned into way more than I ever thought.
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Location: Carpenter, WY | When I don't have any idea about pricing I go by the top dollar that I would pay for the horse if I were to go out and buy it :) More often than not, I seem to price them too cheap for what they are though so don't know if that would work for you or not LOL
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Grade to me is a deal breaker. It's hard enough to sell some registered horses sometimes. |
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Location: Kentucky | lexyy12 - 2014-02-06 12:05 PM I'm thinking people obviously can't be turned off by her conformation because of people coming to me asking about her. To me, papers don't really matter unless I was in it for breeding which I would love to breed her some day because she is so nice but it prob won't happen. And I honestly don't think I would ever sell her...she was the first horse I've ever trained myself and she's so nice to ride and run and I have nieces who could use her as youth in the next few years...it was just a thought as to what I would price her at if I chose to. I believe the arena I normally run at is standard and she is usually between 16.5 and 17. She is one of those that the more you run her in a day, the faster she is. I usually cruise her thru an exhibition and then run ladies and open. She is definitely a free runner that only needs a small check at the first and the rest you kick and hold on!
You may want to double check to see if this is a standard pattern. I think the world record is a 16.5xx on a standard. |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | Hahah I guess not lol idk. I will find out. I can't upload videos from my phone but I can email them to someone. |
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Location: Desert Land | Murphy - 2014-02-06 10:33 AM lexyy12 - 2014-02-06 12:05 PM I'm thinking people obviously can't be turned off by her conformation because of people coming to me asking about her. To me, papers don't really matter unless I was in it for breeding which I would love to breed her some day because she is so nice but it prob won't happen. And I honestly don't think I would ever sell her...she was the first horse I've ever trained myself and she's so nice to ride and run and I have nieces who could use her as youth in the next few years...it was just a thought as to what I would price her at if I chose to. I believe the arena I normally run at is standard and she is usually between 16.5 and 17. She is one of those that the more you run her in a day, the faster she is. I usually cruise her thru an exhibition and then run ladies and open. She is definitely a free runner that only needs a small check at the first and the rest you kick and hold on! You may want to double check to see if this is a standard pattern. I think the world record is a 16.5xx on a standard.
If she is running those times on a TRUE standard pattern, she is worth ALOT. |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | Hahaha that would be amazing but it's probably not true. Hahah good thing I'm not advertising her because I would be one of "those" people!  |
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Location: Desert Land | I've got someone who will offer you $100K right now if your mare is running under 17 seconds on a standard pattern. |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | Hmmm....do I have to prove it ? Hahah |
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Location: Deep South | linds - 2014-02-06 11:04 AM
Next time someone asks you, tell them 'Make me an offer' and there ya go! My horses are always for sale :-)
I couldn't agree more. |
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Location: Washington | Standard pattern and she is below 17......?????
Video please. |
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Location: Midwest | fatchance - 2014-02-06 2:32 PM
Standard pattern and she is below 17......?????
Video please.
She said she was probably not on a standard a few posts back. |
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Location: Washington | barrelracr131 - 2014-02-06 12:56 PM fatchance - 2014-02-06 2:32 PM Standard pattern and she is below 17......?????
Video please. She said she was probably not on a standard a few posts back.
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Location: Midwest | fatchance - 2014-02-06 2:57 PM
barrelracr131 - 2014-02-06 12:56 PM fatchance - 2014-02-06 2:32 PM Standard pattern and she is below 17......?????
Video please. She said she was probably not on a standard a few posts back.
HAHAHA,
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| My opionion: Papers can def help one, but their ability should outshine papers. I have witnessed folks in my area give considerable amounts of money for grade horses, because they were down right good! It all depends on the the buyer ultimatly. There are those who feel papers are extremely important, and those who dont mind buying a grade. For open rodeos horses arent required to be registered. That audience may be more forgiving as long as the horse can prove itself. I agree with what some of the ladies have already said Next time someone asks about her ask them "what is she worth to you?"
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | The show bill on the arena I run those times say the arena is 100x 200 if that helps? I have a few videos if I can email them to someone. I can't upload them |
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| Out of curiosity what arena in Ohio is it?
There is some pretty stiff competition in Ohio at the larger super shows. I doubt it is standard pattern I don't know of any arenas that run a standard pattern in these parts. |
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Location: Montana | TheOldGrayMare - 2014-02-06 1:08 PM I've got someone who will offer you $100K right now if your mare is running under 17 seconds on a standard pattern.
Sorry, way OT, but there is a horse for sale on BHW right now that I have seen, in person, run just under 17 seconds on a standard pattern. Not my horse, but I did in fact see it run that time. Proving it would be hard because all I have is what I saw and wrote down as it was a local NBHA jackpot and they never put the horses' names with the riders here, not even for accumulative (sp?) points. But it may have been a one time thing, who knows.
BTW, to the OP, a grade horse around here is a hard sell too. I would say, even as nice as she sounds, $5000 tops. JMHO. |
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Location: Idaho | lexyy12 - 2014-02-06 1:15 PM The show bill on the arena I run those times say the arena is 100x 200 if that helps? I have a few videos if I can email them to someone. I can't upload them
My current arena is 100x200 ... usually you're on a 15, low 16 second pattern... not close to standard  |
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| flyhperformancehorse - 2014-02-06 3:46 PM
lexyy12 - 2014-02-06 1:15 PM The show bill on the arena I run those times say the arena is 100x 200 if that helps? I have a few videos if I can email them to someone. I can't upload them
My current arena is 100x200 ... usually you're on a 15, low 16 second pattern... not close to standard
In our area we have some people breaking into the 14's in 100x200 with the first and second 15 feet of the fence 30 off of 3rd, with a 40 foot score. |
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| If you have ever ran at silver bar saddle club arena in coshocton ohio. That is close to a standard little smaller but could give you a closer idea. |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | The fastest I believe they have seen at Ruggles is 15.9. So she isn't far behind. She is always at least in the 2nd division and last year towards the end of the year I felt she was really coming into herself and getting stronger, faster and more consistent. She may not be the fastest but she is up there and last season I got money almost every run.
I appreciate everyone's input so far! She isn't something special but she's pretty cool and I hope to hang on to her but you never know when I might need to sell or if someone offers something I might need to consider. |
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Location: Ky | No papers is a big deal if the horse is not winning. Winning makes all that go away. I know of a grade gelding that sold for $30,000 over 30 years ago. Now, he was a badass and won with anyone that threw a leg over over him and in any event. That was back when AQHA shows were a big deal too. If had papers back then the sky would have been the limit on his value. Now that AQHA shows have been relegated to almost nothing the papers are the same. If the horse can win, that is. |
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Location: Texas | I have had lots of horses and there are some you sale and those special ones you keep, money is just that... money, if she makes you happy, why would you sell, don't get me wrong, my husband and I have made lots of money on horses but there are ones you sale and ones you keep. I have a few that will never leave my barn,
One is a 22 year old gelding that ran with the best of them at the ammy's and pro rodeos. I was offered lots of money for him several times, he gave me his heart and soul, he loved his job, he's been retired for a few years now I still ride him because he loves to be rode and he will be taken care of for the rest of his life and I know that because he is still here with me, I owe him that for the happiness he gave me not for the money he won or would have brought if I had sold him.. As I said money is just money some things you can't put a price tag on
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | I'm not planning on selling but I got to thinking what I would even sell her for if it came to that. I would never expect to get A LOT of money out of her. I actually was expecting less than $5,000 which most of you seemed to bring up. Right now she has a spot in my barn for as long as she's Alive but you never know. |
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What would you pay?