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Question for folks in the Frozen North, how often do you horses have access to water?
rollingrfarm
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2014-02-07 12:13 PM
Subject: Question for folks in the Frozen North, how often do you horses have access to water?



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Down here in SE Arkansas, we don't often get several days of frozen weather in a row.  I am fanatical about being sure that our horses have access to unfrozen water and when the weather is below freezing I spend alot of time thawing out stall water buckets, making sure the tank heaters in the pastures are working during the day.

Others, some of which I consider to be experienced horse people aren't that way.  One guy I thought was very knowledgeable about horses provides them with unfrozen water during the day but feeds and hays them at night and doesn't have unfrozen water for them. until her turns them out the next morning  One other guy lets his horses drink water 2x a day during freezing weather, and that's it.

How often to horses up north get to drink water during below freezing weather?  How do horses in big huge hundreds-of -acres pastures get water?

 
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Nateracer
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-02-07 12:15 PM
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Mine have access 100% of the time.  We either had a propane water heater in the tank or this year we bought one of those 16 gallon electric heated water tubs. Looks like a muck tub. 
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-02-07 12:17 PM
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I have both heated water tanks and also artesian wells that is a naturally warm salty water and if you let it keep running it won't freeze even when its -40 actual air temp with a hell of a wind.  My stuff has access to water 24/7 as much as they want.
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WYOracer
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2014-02-07 12:17 PM
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Fresh unfrozen water available at all times.  
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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2014-02-07 12:18 PM
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 My horses have free access to unfrozen water 24/7 and we can go months below freezing. We have stock tank heaters in all the paddocks and in the stalls we use heated water tubs. Heck, even my barn kitties have a heated water bowl in the barn. lol
 Asking your horses to go with limited good water supply in the winter is just flirting with colic episodes.
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zerotlperformancehor
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2014-02-07 12:19 PM
Subject: RE: Question for folks in the Frozen North, how often do you horses have access to water?



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I used to live in Alaska, now I live in Colorado so although the winters are shorter and not as cold I still get to deal with frozen buckets, but all of my horses right now have access to unfrozen WARM water. Horses don't like to drink cold water in the cold and I've heard many stories of horses colicing because they wouldn't drink their water or didn't have access to it. I had a rescue in the back of the barn where there is no electricity and so hiss water bucket would freeze at night, but I fed at around 8, would check his water at 10ish and then I would feed again at 7 am, and bring him hot water to thaw his water bucket out. I didn't like not knowing how long he was without water during the night, but he was never sucked up and the second he was able to go into the regular barn with access to warm water 24/7 I moved him.
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JcNhEmI
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2014-02-07 12:20 PM
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My horses have access to water all the time. I have a tank heater in our big trough and it has kept it open this winter. But my horses only come in a couple times a day to drink. They are on 80 acres and they paws some so they get done water from that.
Horse can break ice that is pretty thick.
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-02-07 12:24 PM
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I also know lots of big ranches that don't have open water - the horses eat snow.  
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Murphy
Reg. Dec 2007
Posted 2014-02-07 12:27 PM
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Mine have access 24/7 to unfrozen water. I love, love my tank heaters and heated buckets. In winter, hay and water are must haves for me. I tend to lose my mind if those aren't available to them.  
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brlracerchick
Reg. Jun 2010
Posted 2014-02-07 12:28 PM
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Mine have open water 24/7 
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rockinas
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-02-07 12:29 PM
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24/7.  They are also on free choice hay and/or pasture 24/7.  With all that dry roughage they have to be able to drink.  Our tanks are either heated or energy free. 

I do have to bucket water to my studs but they only drink about 10 gallons a day in this old so I carry them a bucket of warm water AM & PM.  
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Tys-ol-lady
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2014-02-07 12:33 PM
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Our horses have 24/7 access about 99% of the time. Hubby's calf horse has an abscess right now so he's spent the last couple nights in the barn (off of frozen lumpy ground) and he gets watered just before bedtime, and turned out first thing in the morning. We also feed beet pulp twice daily which helps to make sure they're getting enough fluids when its real cold out.

When I was a kid and our 20+ horses were turned out on a section of land in the winter we used to go chop a hole in the dugout once a day and they drank there, and ate snow the rest of the time. Amazingly we only ever lost one horse (to colic) doing it that way, but I definitely couldn't sleep at night if I did that now.
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brlraceaddict
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-02-07 12:35 PM
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Tank heater in the water trough so they have access to fresh water 24/7.
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fastwrapn3
Reg. Sep 2004
Posted 2014-02-07 12:48 PM
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I am not too far from you and I water like I do when my guys are stalled. I try to keep water for them at all times. The horses in pasture have a creek and bathtub full of water with tank heater. The horse in a separate pasture that I do not have electricity has 5 gal bucket that I fill with warm water in am, check an hour later, and refill if needed, I do the same at night. I also have a hot water heater at barn so I have warm water available there also. I feel like letting mine go without water and I continue to feed or hay is asking for colic.
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Stubsgirl
Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2014-02-07 12:48 PM
Subject: RE: Question for folks in the Frozen North, how often do you horses have access to water?



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Mine also have 24/7. We have a Ritchie waterer. We still have to run a heated tape down the pipe supply for it or that can freeze. We have been below zero for the last two months, I have even added apple juice to make sure they are drinking along with salt blocks.

The barn cats and dog (in the garage) get heated water bowls also. Electric bill is no fun in this weather!
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WYOracer
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2014-02-07 12:50 PM
Subject: RE: Question for folks in the Frozen North, how often do you horses have access to water?



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CYA Ranch - 2014-02-07 11:24 AM I also know lots of big ranches that don't have open water - the horses eat snow.  

It takes soooo much snow to equal what they would need in water. 
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dhdqhllc
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2014-02-07 12:50 PM
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 if they are only on hay, they should have access to water.....if they are on pasture with snow (obviously that is not hard as a rock) and only eating some hay once in a while or no hay, they will do fine unless it gets real cold for extended periods.....even with free choic water in those situations, they may not come up and drink every day....
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hammer_time
Reg. Jul 2007
Posted 2014-02-07 12:52 PM
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 It's been below freezing but the creek we've got still run.ps so the horses mainly use that.  But they also use the water trough.  Depending on the temps we have to pack a couple buckets of hot water  to thaw the ice on top but that's it.  I leave that for my brother to do.  
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Whit37
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2014-02-07 1:00 PM
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When ours are on hay, they have 24/7 access to warm water. When they are out on pasture with lots of fluffy snow they just use that. We've offered them water but they never want it.

Edited by Whit37 2014-02-07 1:04 PM
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dhdqhllc
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2014-02-07 1:13 PM
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 there have been times where we've left them in the pasture without snow and went every other day with the chainsaw and cut a block out......that gets old though....
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zansbeunogal_2268
Reg. Dec 2009
Posted 2014-02-07 1:15 PM
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Really good heated watering bowls! Turn off the heat to them in the summer and they get nice cool water. 24/7! sometimes they will freeze up but im bf is an expert at fixing watering bowls!
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CYA Ranch
Reg. Feb 2008
Posted 2014-02-07 1:16 PM
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WYOracer - 2014-02-07 12:50 PM
CYA Ranch - 2014-02-07 11:24 AM I also know lots of big ranches that don't have open water - the horses eat snow.  
It takes soooo much snow to equal what they would need in water. 

I understand that.  I don't do it but I know many that do and don't have any problem.  If I did that I'd have a dead horse.  I was just saying....
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almika360
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2014-02-07 1:18 PM
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I live in Saskatchewan Canada and to be honest once it snows we stop watering and they do perfectly fine with it they eat the snow and no one loses weight or gets unhealthy. We get temperatures here of -40 celcius ( although this winter we've had it dip to -50) our horses have access to round bales all winter day and night and 3 sided shelters to stay out of the bitterly cold wind we get. My horses are all happy and healthy and they do fine on snow that's how most big farms operate up here in Canada during the winter
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SaraJean
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2014-02-07 1:21 PM
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Mine have access to water all the time. When it's cold enough that I bring them in the barn at night they have water until their buckets freeze and then they're without until morning.  
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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2014-02-07 1:26 PM
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24/7 their heated water trough is about 50 feet from their round bale. I have a heater that shuts off when the water hits a temperature and turns on just to keep everything melted. They do pick at snow too but I fill my trough up more often in the winter.
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Gunner11
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2014-02-07 1:28 PM
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I don't have to deal with frozen water troughs often, so I don't have tank heaters. The past few days have been very cold, so I'll go out in the morning and break the ice off the top of their water buckets and scoop out the ice. I'll do it again at night when I feed and fill the buckets back up. This is the most often I can do that because I work during the day. So I know for sure they have access at least twice a day, but I really don't know how long it takes for ice to cover the top and keep them from drinking. I will haul warm water to them if needed, but our cold snaps are usually only a couple of days.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-02-07 1:30 PM
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I live in Alberta and mine have a stock tank with a heater. Mine have water whenever they want it.
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mruggles
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2014-02-07 1:31 PM
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i know plenty of ppl that have herds out pawing and no access to water just snow..they do just fine.........
ours have water 24/7, we have a waterbowl and before that we had tanks with heaters(i sure dont miss rolling out the garden hose in -40)..........

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WYOracer
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2014-02-07 1:41 PM
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CYA Ranch - 2014-02-07 12:16 PM
WYOracer - 2014-02-07 12:50 PM
CYA Ranch - 2014-02-07 11:24 AM I also know lots of big ranches that don't have open water - the horses eat snow.  
It takes soooo much snow to equal what they would need in water. 
I understand that.  I don't do it but I know many that do and don't have any problem.  If I did that I'd have a dead horse.  I was just saying....

I wasn't accusing you I was just saying if that's all they have wowzer!  
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r_beau
Reg. Apr 2010
Posted 2014-02-07 1:47 PM
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Mine have 24/7 access to fresh water from a heated water fountain. I want them to drink all the water they want.
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MRM27
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2014-02-07 1:55 PM
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They have fresh clean water all the time. I pour on the salt to make sure they keep drinking. With as much hay as they eat when it's cold I want to make sure they keep drinking.
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rollingrfarm
Reg. Apr 2005
Posted 2014-02-07 2:27 PM
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Thanks, that's all very interesting.  I figured that eating snow would make them cold and cause them to burn more calories. 

Thanks for the reminder to go get more salt...

Everyone keep warm! 
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docschic
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-02-07 2:32 PM
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Mine have a heated waterer but I did end up one winter with issues and they weathered just fine on the snow.  It's not ideal but it can be done.  They didn't lose any weight or anything but I was nervous as all get out.  The issues have since been fixed and now they have water 24/7. 
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dream_chaser
Reg. Jun 2006
Posted 2014-02-07 2:33 PM
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 24/7 fresh water from waterers, water lines run 8 plus feet under ground and connect in the waterer which has a heater in it keep lines from freezing above ground.....if they are out grazing in the snow they normally don't come up to drink very often, in my observations.

I guess I never second guessed how lucky my horses are to have that...
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JcNhEmI
Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2014-02-07 3:07 PM
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CYA Ranch - 2014-02-07 12:16 PM

WYOracer - 2014-02-07 12:50 PM
CYA Ranch - 2014-02-07 11:24 AM I also know lots of big ranches that don't have open water - the horses eat snow.  
It takes soooo much snow to equal what they would need in water. 

I understand that.  I don't do it but I know many that do and don't have any problem.  If I did that I'd have a dead horse.  I was just saying....

I have always been told horses can eat the snow as long as they are pawing and aren't being fed hay, but they need water if they are eating hay. I've never tried it though. My horses do a lot of pawing until the snow gets hard but we always give them access to open water.
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Idaho
Reg. Apr 2004
Posted 2014-02-07 3:13 PM
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One pen has a heater that I run a few hours a day,  the other nothing, I break ice twice a day for a small water hole, then once every week break all the old ice out with a running hose and shovel and start over for the next week.  
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MO gal
Reg. Apr 2008
Posted 2014-02-07 3:55 PM
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CYA Ranch - 2014-02-07 12:24 PM

I also know lots of big ranches that don't have open water - the horses eat snow.  

You can actually freeze to death from melting snow with your body temp. Not sure if the extra body mass of horses make a difference, but it takes too many calories to melt the snow. Do it long enough and you've dropped your body temp too much. My FIL, surgeon, told me that when he felt I wasn't giving the horses good enough access to water and letting them eat snow. Just my informational nugget of information for the month. LOL
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redmansmyman11
Reg. Jan 2012
Posted 2014-02-07 4:08 PM
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My boy has a 25 gallon tank and I haul out a bucket of the hottest water I can get from my faucet first thing in the morning, before class, around 2, again at 5-6, and finally another set of hot water buckets around 10:30 to 11:00 when I go to bed.

I scoop out 1-2 buckets of the ice and frozen water and replace with the hot. Figure he's the only one I have with me now and he's 50 feet from my back door it won't kill me to make sure he has water 85% of the day/night.
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lucky2
Reg. Oct 2008
Posted 2014-02-07 4:09 PM
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My horses have their water buckets down in an insulator type thing and when it was 20 to 30 below outside i was hauling warm water to them....they LOVE it and it keeps them drinking SO much better. Mine dont like to drink the extremely cold water and when it gets that cold they will darn near stop drinking .... yes its a pain to haul hot water but its alot easier than dealing with a colic. SO i do it...lol I cant imagine depending on snow for hydration just sounds really risky to me but whatever works.
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Skeetersmom
Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2014-02-07 4:20 PM
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I have the 16 gallon water buckets too. I can see the steam rising from them when it's frigid. I cannot believe how much MORE water my horses are drinking then when it's 100 degrees out. It baffles me! I am filling buckets much more often than in the summer...strange! I swear one of my horses is part camel. He drinks so much, and has a frozen pee lake in the middle of his pen -lol!
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wyoming barrel racer
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-02-07 4:29 PM
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My broodmares are on the creek so have water whenever they want it but it is cold cold. The horses in the corral have it morning noon and at dark when I break it open. The 2 I am putting in the barn right now get a bucket until it freezes. The riding horses have an electric tank when they come down by the corral that stays open 99% of the time. The heater in it is pretty poor and if we have sub zero temps with wind, it will freeze over. 
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Ridenrun4745
Reg. Sep 2010
Posted 2014-02-07 4:34 PM
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We have a stock tank with a heater, the horses and our 2 beef steers have water always. Our dogs, chickens, and ducks share a heated 5gal bucket of water, and the barn cats have a heated 5gal bucket...our pig is the only one without heated water, she gets fresh 2x/day and seems to be ok with it. She has access to snow too if she really wants, but really she is just spoiled.
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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2014-02-07 4:35 PM
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redmansmyman11 - 2014-02-07 4:08 PM

My boy has a 25 gallon tank and I haul out a bucket of the hottest water I can get from my faucet first thing in the morning, before class, around 2, again at 5-6, and finally another set of hot water buckets around 10:30 to 11:00 when I go to bed.

I scoop out 1-2 buckets of the ice and frozen water and replace with the hot. Figure he's the only one I have with me now and he's 50 feet from my back door it won't kill me to make sure he has water 85% of the day/night.

Unless your using the hot to help break ice up save the hot water. It actually freezes faster then cold does.
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-02-07 7:41 PM
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rollingrfarm - 2014-02-07 2:27 PM

Thanks, that's all very interesting.  I figured that eating snow would make them cold and cause them to burn more calories. 

Thanks for the reminder to go get more salt...

Everyone keep warm! 

Pouring the salt to the horse can cause an electrolyte imbalance
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cheryl makofka
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-02-07 7:45 PM
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ndiehl - 2014-02-07 4:35 PM

redmansmyman11 - 2014-02-07 4:08 PM

My boy has a 25 gallon tank and I haul out a bucket of the hottest water I can get from my faucet first thing in the morning, before class, around 2, again at 5-6, and finally another set of hot water buckets around 10:30 to 11:00 when I go to bed.

I scoop out 1-2 buckets of the ice and frozen water and replace with the hot. Figure he's the only one I have with me now and he's 50 feet from my back door it won't kill me to make sure he has water 85% of the day/night.

Unless your using the hot to help break ice up save the hot water. It actually freezes faster then cold does.

Please show the research, I have heard this but it does not make any logical sense, due to it takes more energy loss to drop a 40 degree temp to 32 degree temp, then 32 degree liquid to 32 degree ice.
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Talotha
Reg. Oct 2007
Posted 2014-02-07 7:48 PM
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Heater in tanks or keep the water open for them.
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bc3up
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Posted 2014-02-07 8:03 PM
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We have solar power so can't run a tank heater so I truck water twice per day so they have fresh water, in those clear big jugs, it's a pain and we r working on something easier!!!
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ndiehl
Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2014-02-07 8:14 PM
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redmansmyman11 - 2014-02-07 4:08 PM

My boy has a 25 gallon tank and I haul out a bucket of the hottest water I can get from my faucet first thing in the morning, before class, around 2, again at 5-6, and finally another set of hot water buckets around 10:30 to 11:00 when I go to bed.

I scoop out 1-2 buckets of the ice and frozen water and replace with the hot. Figure he's the only one I have with me now and he's 50 feet from my back door it won't kill me to make sure he has water 85% of the day/night.

Unless your using the hot to help break ice up save the hot water. It actually freezes faster then cold does.

Please show the research, I have heard this but it does not make any logical sense, due to it takes more energy loss to drop a 40 degree temp to 32 degree temp, then 32 degree liquid to 32 degree ice.

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html

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In a perfect world I would have automatic waterers or stock tank heaters everywhere, but it's just not possible right now. The closest trough has a heater in it, the rest are too far away from power. They just have to learn to drink it cold. I keep the ice cleaned out as much as possible.
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I have an automatic waterer for my big group of horses & cows, and the rest have heaters put in their water and access all day.
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ndiehl - 2014-02-07 3:35 PM

redmansmyman11 - 2014-02-07 4:08 PM

My boy has a 25 gallon tank and I haul out a bucket of the hottest water I can get from my faucet first thing in the morning, before class, around 2, again at 5-6, and finally another set of hot water buckets around 10:30 to 11:00 when I go to bed.

I scoop out 1-2 buckets of the ice and frozen water and replace with the hot. Figure he's the only one I have with me now and he's 50 feet from my back door it won't kill me to make sure he has water 85% of the day/night.

Unless your using the hot to help break ice up save the hot water. It actually freezes faster then cold does.

I use the hot water so he has water to drink at a comfortable temperature. I don't do it as a thawing thing or to keep it unfrozen longer. I don't like drinking ice cold water and I'm sure he doesn't either because he always drinks right after I heat it up
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Posted 2014-02-07 9:15 PM
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cheryl makofka - 2014-02-07 7:45 PM
ndiehl - 2014-02-07 4:35 PM
redmansmyman11 - 2014-02-07 4:08 PM My boy has a 25 gallon tank and I haul out a bucket of the hottest water I can get from my faucet first thing in the morning, before class, around 2, again at 5-6, and finally another set of hot water buckets around 10:30 to 11:00 when I go to bed. I scoop out 1-2 buckets of the ice and frozen water and replace with the hot. Figure he's the only one I have with me now and he's 50 feet from my back door it won't kill me to make sure he has water 85% of the day/night.
Unless your using the hot to help break ice up save the hot water. It actually freezes faster then cold does.
Please show the research, I have heard this but it does not make any logical sense, due to it takes more energy loss to drop a 40 degree temp to 32 degree temp, then 32 degree liquid to 32 degree ice.

 I dont care what math says. Actually I read your link and it isn't an always ;)  I have tried both in my barn.  stalls side by side same muck bucket.  the warm water bucket would not freeze over as quick and as thick as the cold water bucket

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cheryl makofka - 2014-02-07 7:45 PM
ndiehl - 2014-02-07 4:35 PM
redmansmyman11 - 2014-02-07 4:08 PM My boy has a 25 gallon tank and I haul out a bucket of the hottest water I can get from my faucet first thing in the morning, before class, around 2, again at 5-6, and finally another set of hot water buckets around 10:30 to 11:00 when I go to bed. I scoop out 1-2 buckets of the ice and frozen water and replace with the hot. Figure he's the only one I have with me now and he's 50 feet from my back door it won't kill me to make sure he has water 85% of the day/night.
Unless your using the hot to help break ice up save the hot water. It actually freezes faster then cold does.
Please show the research, I have heard this but it does not make any logical sense, due to it takes more energy loss to drop a 40 degree temp to 32 degree temp, then 32 degree liquid to 32 degree ice.
http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html[/quote...
 To quote from the link  Under some conditions the initially warmer water will freeze first.  If this occurs, we have seen the Mpemba effect.  Of course, the initially warmer water will not freeze before the initially cooler water for all initial conditions.  If the hot water starts at 99.9°C, and the cold water at 0.01°C, then clearly under those circumstances, the initially cooler water will freeze first.  However, under some conditions the initially warmer water will freeze first: if that happens, you have seen the Mpemba effect.  But you will not see the Mpemba effect for just any initial temperatures, container shapes, or cooling conditions.  
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We have an artesian well so ours have warm water all winter.
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MO gal - 2014-02-07 1:55 PM

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I also know lots of big ranches that don't have open water - the horses eat snow.  

You can actually freeze to death from melting snow with your body temp. Not sure if the extra body mass of horses make a difference, but it takes too many calories to melt the snow. Do it long enough and you've dropped your body temp too much. My FIL, surgeon, told me that when he felt I wasn't giving the horses good enough access to water and letting them eat snow. Just my informational nugget of information for the month. LOL

Apparently horses don't know this. We are running 27 head of bucking horses for a friend. They are on about 1000+ acres, are not being feed hay and often don't come to the tank for a few days to a WEEK at a time. (And they aren't sneaking in at night as there are NO tracks in the new snow.) They easy snow or frost BY CHOICE.
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My own horses get the ice broken and removed from the tank. (As much as possible. All floating ice is removed. ) 7am, 2pm and 7pm. They also break it themselves between those times until it gets too thick.[ like it will overnight]
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Ours have it 24/7.  I have goldfish in my water tanks and I'm paranoid something is going to happen to them 

Yesterday it was 44 below zero with the windchill and about 30 below mean temp the two days before that were not a lot better, today it finally got above zero.  The heaters in the tanks have been running non stop since Sunday night.  Usually we turn them on for about 3 hours at night and another 2-3 hours in the morning.

  I can only wish for auto waterers.  We have stock tanks with heaters in them that we fill with a hose and have to be very careful draining the hose when we are done to make sure there is no water left in it to freeze it up.   I'm taking no chance of colic, we feed hay all year round, as close to 100% alfalfa as we can get.  The horses actually drink more in the winter.  I think they like the warm water.
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Had to go help a horse friend one frigid day last winter.  Her horses only water source was a pond, which had served its purpose well for awhile.  She mistakenly thought the horses would just break through the ice at the edge as always, since the pond rarely got much ice on it.  We had a cold snap for several days, where the temps were 20s and below during the day.  She went out one morning to find one of her mares had walked onto the pond and made it about 100 feet out before falling through.  Nearly lost that mare, and it could have been prevented by simply breaking through for a few drinking holes morning and night.  No snow on the ground, so horses were dehydrated.

When I lived in NH, horses had their buckets and tanks de-iced am and pm, and did great.  But, they were fed twice a day using squares and did not have their heads buried in a round 24/7.  I used to give my horse beet pulp during cold snaps, but would also soak all his grain in warm water.  I was just a kid making a warm mash for my horse, but I never had a colic in the winter.

Vets and students at OSU are noticing a huge increase in impaction colics in the last few weeks.  Every one of them comes in dehydrated.
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My horse has access to automatic waterer, so they can have as much as they want whenever they want, except for the time the other horse out there pulled the drainplug out...some horses are too smart for their own good.  
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They have access 24/7. They have a great new invention called a tub heater  
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 I have tank heaters and of course one quit working when the highs were only in the single digits this week. I have a heated 35 gallon bucket so I started carrying water fron the house to it by buckets. Even though I always drain my hoses, the ends just broke off in the cold. I honestly don't know how you guys up north function.
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cheryl makofka - 2014-02-07 7:41 PM
rollingrfarm - 2014-02-07 2:27 PM Thanks, that's all very interesting.  I figured that eating snow would make them cold and cause them to burn more calories. 



Thanks for the reminder to go get more salt...



Everyone keep warm! 
Pouring the salt to the horse can cause an electrolyte imbalance

Yep, that's right.
Which is why I just add a small amount.

Too much of anything is rarely good, and I never "pour the salt to them" even in hot weather. 
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ndiehl - 2014-02-07 8:14 PM

cheryl makofka - 2014-02-07 7:45 PM

ndiehl - 2014-02-07 4:35 PM

redmansmyman11 - 2014-02-07 4:08 PM

My boy has a 25 gallon tank and I haul out a bucket of the hottest water I can get from my faucet first thing in the morning, before class, around 2, again at 5-6, and finally another set of hot water buckets around 10:30 to 11:00 when I go to bed.

I scoop out 1-2 buckets of the ice and frozen water and replace with the hot. Figure he's the only one I have with me now and he's 50 feet from my back door it won't kill me to make sure he has water 85% of the day/night.

Unless your using the hot to help break ice up save the hot water. It actually freezes faster then cold does.

Please show the research, I have heard this but it does not make any logical sense, due to it takes more energy loss to drop a 40 degree temp to 32 degree temp, then 32 degree liquid to 32 degree ice.

http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/physics/General/hot_water.html


I read the link and 70 c will not freeze before 30 c until the hot water has reached 30 then it would freeze faster. This also didn't happen everytime this experiment was conducted.
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