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cecollins0811
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My gelding isn't a known kicker but when he is around unknown horses he pins his ears back and sometimes tries to lunge at them, especially riding in a small arena warming up. He never really tries to bite them but just scare them off away from him. Should I tie a red ribbon on his tail just so people know to stay away?
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i would. but no worries, some people wont pay attention to it. i had a mare that would kick-tried the ribbon-didn't work. tried writing on my back numbers with HUGE red marker "i kick" didn't work, tried getting the paint that you can paint on horses with and wrote across her rear end "I KICK" didn't work lol. people actually got mad at me if she kicked at their horse (when they clearly ran up her butt but ok, sorry about that)
i think some people have no etiquette as far as warm up areas
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 I agree most people don't pay attention, which is what Ive learned since I started barrel racing.....some don't even take consideration when their horses have issues....growing up in 4-H ribbon on a tail meant stay back, but we also learned to keep horse length distance when in an arena 
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People just ignore it but at least they had a warning.
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cecollins0811 - 2014-02-09 3:17 PM

My gelding isn't a known kicker but when he is around unknown horses he pins his ears back and sometimes tries to lunge at them, especially riding in a small arena warming up. He never really tries to bite them but just scare them off away from him. Should I tie a red ribbon on his tail just so people know to stay away?

I always bring something to tie in my mares tail just in case and its not because she is a kicker but at a whopping 14.2h ppl seem to think running their horse up our ass when we are warming up or trying to run us over is no problem so there are times I have tied a ribbon in her tail so people respect our space. Thankfully its not always like that but its happened enough times! And some people will still be right on top of you.
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Posted 2014-02-09 7:26 PM
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Barrel racers have,the worst manners when riding in a warm up area or open arena. I not saying everyone but some people. I could write a book.
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 If he tries to bite, then the ribbon would go in his forelock.  Tail is for kicking.  But you could put it in both and hope that people get the message.  I usually have good luck at races with a red ribbon, but hell, if it is there and you still run up on me, well, sorry for your choice dude.  I also avoid crowded warm up areas like the plague.  I can't accomplish anything in tem and it just makes my horse mad having people brush my leg and her hip when they breeze by us.
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One of mine is the same, she will pin her ears but hasn't actually kicked at anyone yet.  You are nicer than I am.  I'm of the mind if people want to get that close they are asking to get kicked and probably deserve it.  I give horses their personal space and I expect the same of the people riding around my horse.

Wanted to add the same horse will flaten her ears at anyone coming into her stall when we have to stall on the road too.   She'll do it to me and shake her head but will just stand and let me feed her or clean her pen or groom her. 


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 From a liability standpoint, it would be good to use a ribbon. At least they were warned. People don't do a good job of reading body language on horses anyhow. And not everyone comes to the ring as automatic experts in ring ettiquette. There are a lot of novices in the ring and its our job as more experienced riders to help them and teach them. We were helped along the way when we were starting out too. I do think if I have one that kicks or charges, I also have a responsibility to keep others safe by keeping distance intentionally and avoiding others. I also see it as something that I need to work on with my horse.
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 Just curious what do you do when your horse does that??
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CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 5:04 AM  Just curious what do you do when your horse does that??

 I'm wondering too.
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I think if you painted your horse red, people would still ride up on your horse! Quite a few, not all riders have no clue or really don't care unless your horse kicks them. That's when you hear "your horse kicked me" my response is um that's what a red ribbon means duhh
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You need to put a ribbon in her tail, so at least the ones that know about it can be warned,even if some dont know about its ok let them asked, we all learn something new everyday. And I know some people dont have the best manners in a warm up area but I would be worried about your horse hurting a little kid so you do need to warn others. I hope that you get after your horse for this behavior, lunging or kicking will get somebody hurt. Its your responsible to let others know how your horse acts. 

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justcruzin - 2014-02-10 7:44 AM

CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 5:04 AM  Just curious what do you do when your horse does that??

 I'm wondering too.

When he pins his ears back I give him a little nudge on the reins but I don't want to really bump him. It's not his fault that horses are super close to him and he's a little grumpy. But when he went after another horse I reined him back in and gave him a little smack on his neck. He hasn't tried it since but we're going to a race next weekend and it might happen again.
I'm not mad or blaming any of these people in the arena, we all know how crowded small indoor arenas can get and everyone wants to warm their horse up in a nice warm place than the cold outside, but I figured it would give people at least a warning.

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CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 5:04 AM  Just curious what do you do when your horse does that??
 I'm wondering too.
When he pins his ears back I give him a little nudge on the reins but I don't want to really bump him. It's not his fault that horses are super close to him and he's a little grumpy. But when he went after another horse I reined him back in and gave him a little smack on his neck. He hasn't tried it since but we're going to a race next weekend and it might happen again. I'm not mad or blaming any of these people in the arena, we all know how crowded small indoor arenas can get and everyone wants to warm their horse up in a nice warm place than the cold outside, but I figured it would give people at least a warning.
 It is though.. I know you didn't ask for advice and I'm sorry but if my horse did that I would do more than a little.

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 I'll spank and get on to them with my voice and legs. Maybe even put their feet to work. Thats not behavior I tolerate, doesn't matter if other horses are too close or not. If they can't let another horse get real close without kicking and carrying on, then that's something I need to work on and be mindful of for other people's safety. Its no different than expecting your horse to mind when you're ponying a friend's horse or a colt that doesn't follow too well.
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CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 8:53 AM
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justcruzin - 2014-02-10 7:44 AM
CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 5:04 AM  Just curious what do you do when your horse does that??
 I'm wondering too.
When he pins his ears back I give him a little nudge on the reins but I don't want to really bump him. It's not his fault that horses are super close to him and he's a little grumpy. But when he went after another horse I reined him back in and gave him a little smack on his neck. He hasn't tried it since but we're going to a race next weekend and it might happen again. I'm not mad or blaming any of these people in the arena, we all know how crowded small indoor arenas can get and everyone wants to warm their horse up in a nice warm place than the cold outside, but I figured it would give people at least a warning.
 It is though.. I know you didn't ask for advice and I'm sorry but if my horse did that I would do a little more than a little.
 Ditto  If my horses acted like that there would be no little to anything, its going to be something they will remember.  

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CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 6:53 AM
cecollins0811 - 2014-02-10 8:45 AM
justcruzin - 2014-02-10 7:44 AM
CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 5:04 AM  Just curious what do you do when your horse does that??
 I'm wondering too.
When he pins his ears back I give him a little nudge on the reins but I don't want to really bump him. It's not his fault that horses are super close to him and he's a little grumpy. But when he went after another horse I reined him back in and gave him a little smack on his neck. He hasn't tried it since but we're going to a race next weekend and it might happen again. I'm not mad or blaming any of these people in the arena, we all know how crowded small indoor arenas can get and everyone wants to warm their horse up in a nice warm place than the cold outside, but I figured it would give people at least a warning.
 It is though.. I know you didn't ask for advice and I'm sorry but if my horse did that I would do more than a little.

 
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Posted 2014-02-10 11:23 AM
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CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 6:53 AM
cecollins0811 - 2014-02-10 8:45 AM
justcruzin - 2014-02-10 7:44 AM
CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 5:04 AM  Just curious what do you do when your horse does that??
 I'm wondering too.
When he pins his ears back I give him a little nudge on the reins but I don't want to really bump him. It's not his fault that horses are super close to him and he's a little grumpy. But when he went after another horse I reined him back in and gave him a little smack on his neck. He hasn't tried it since but we're going to a race next weekend and it might happen again. I'm not mad or blaming any of these people in the arena, we all know how crowded small indoor arenas can get and everyone wants to warm their horse up in a nice warm place than the cold outside, but I figured it would give people at least a warning.
 It is though.. I know you didn't ask for advice and I'm sorry but if my horse did that I would do more than a little.

I agree a little smack on the neck is like swatting a fly. He needs repremanded - he needs to know that when you are in the saddle he is to have manners and behave. I have had several Alpha horses and with time they all learned their boundries. If I did not react then they better not either. He needs to learn his place in your herd. 
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 I agree others may not know what the red ribbon means but at least you are doing what you can to be responsible.   We had a kicker, couldn't find our ribbon so asked in the office if they had anything I could use.  The lady in line behind me excitedly said I didn't know a ribbon would make them stop kicking,   does it have to be red?  :).  She was a little embarrassed when I explained the purpose of the ribbon.
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People DONT pay attention to ribbons. HECK if i asked every one to tell me what red, blue, yellow, white, and green meant most wouldnt know!

Would i do it anyway for liability purposes!? Yes!
If your horse is aggressive and thinks it should get to kick and act out thats a NO GO BRO for me. I get after them and they cut that crap out. If you want to stand next to friends on your horse, or your horses gets a little crowded in a group do you want to sit there in a panic waiting for your horse to blow? I wouldnt....

I have a mare that started that crap and tried to be a kicker in close proximity to horses and when im on OR AROUND her, that is a NO NO. and she learned that FAST. Now she might pin her ears, but THATS IT she will not react.

She's still a witch when shes stalled with horses next to her, but thats her space, so as long as shes not ruining my stalls No problem.
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Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2014-02-10 1:09 PM People DONT pay attention to ribbons. HECK if i asked every one to tell me what red, blue, yellow, white, and green meant most wouldnt know! Would i do it anyway for liability purposes!? Yes! If your horse is aggressive and thinks it should get to kick and act out thats a NO GO BRO for me. I get after them and they cut that crap out. If you want to stand next to friends on your horse, or your horses gets a little crowded in a group do you want to sit there in a panic waiting for your horse to blow? I wouldnt.... I have a mare that started that crap and tried to be a kicker in close proximity to horses and when im on OR AROUND her, that is a NO NO. and she learned that FAST. Now she might pin her ears, but THATS IT she will not react. She's still a witch when shes stalled with horses next to her, but thats her space, so as long as shes not ruining my stalls No problem.

I am one of them that doesn't know what they all mean. On the other side though, I assume everything kicks, bites, or whatever. My friends had some nasty horses when we were growing up, and you didn't want your horse near them for your safety and your horses.... so it is a habit now to give myself plenty of distance. 

 Even though I don't know what they mean, I know they mean something lol. I do notice them though, and don't assume they are there for decoration. I just keep a bigger bubble around those horses.
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horsepoor1 - 2014-02-09 3:23 PM

i would. but no worries, some people wont pay attention to it. i had a mare that would kick-tried the ribbon-didn't work. tried writing on my back numbers with HUGE red marker "i kick" didn't work, tried getting the paint that you can paint on horses with and wrote across her rear end "I KICK" didn't work lol. people actually got mad at me if she kicked at their horse (when they clearly ran up her butt but ok, sorry about that)
i think some people have no etiquette as far as warm up areas

I agree with no etiquette in the warm up pen.
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pinx05 - 2014-02-10 1:11 PM

Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2014-02-10 1:09 PM People DONT pay attention to ribbons. HECK if i asked every one to tell me what red, blue, yellow, white, and green meant most wouldnt know! Would i do it anyway for liability purposes!? Yes! If your horse is aggressive and thinks it should get to kick and act out thats a NO GO BRO for me. I get after them and they cut that crap out. If you want to stand next to friends on your horse, or your horses gets a little crowded in a group do you want to sit there in a panic waiting for your horse to blow? I wouldnt.... I have a mare that started that crap and tried to be a kicker in close proximity to horses and when im on OR AROUND her, that is a NO NO. and she learned that FAST. Now she might pin her ears, but THATS IT she will not react. She's still a witch when shes stalled with horses next to her, but thats her space, so as long as shes not ruining my stalls No problem.

I am one of them that doesn't know what they all mean. On the other side though, I assume everything kicks, bites, or whatever. My friends had some nasty horses when we were growing up, and you didn't want your horse near them for your safety and your horses.... so it is a habit now to give myself plenty of distance. 

 Even though I don't know what they mean, I know they mean something lol. I do notice them though, and don't assume they are there for decoration. I just keep a bigger bubble around those horses.

LOL yup i like what you said there. when people ask does your horse bite or kick I got it has teeth so it can bite it has legs so it can kick so i suppose yes it bites and kicks.
Like sherlock holmes says "They're dangerous at both ends and crafty in the middle!"
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Here you go, They dont have yellow on there, but these are the most important anyway. Or maybe yellow doesnt mean anything, let me get back to you on that.

Ah ok had to research that real quick Blue/Yellow are used interchangeably to signify its a stallion. But i think blue is more widely known cause it makes sense Boys wear blue. Right>?

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We were at a show in Cali and I was cooling off the stallion, spraying him with hose and I had some liniment in a bucket. I was off all by my self between a fence and the walls of the stalls so I could make sure no one would be around. This lady came walking up and I told her, "don't come this way he will kick at you, he's a stud still". This horse has ravaged other horses a couple of times and I knew what would happen. I looked away for half a second and she proceeded to walk up on him, I guess she thought I didn't know what I was talking about, he kicked with both hind legs and her head split them. she was so lucky.... I screamed at her then because it scared me so much. she proceeded to get mad at me when I told her, looking right in her eyes, DO NOT COME THIS WAY, STAY BACK FROM HIM!
I guess what I'm saying, people don't care or pay any attention until they get smacked in the face. I would put a ribbon on but don't expect anyone to pay attention and listen.
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Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2014-02-10 2:48 PM Here you go, They dont have yellow on there, but these are the most important anyway. Or maybe yellow doesnt mean anything, let me get back to you on that. Ah ok had to research that real quick Blue/Yellow are used interchangeably to signify its a stallion. But i think blue is more widely known cause it makes sense Boys wear blue. Right>?

That one threw me off for a second lol. The only one I thought I knew was yellow... then I thought I had it wrong all these years! Thanks for clearing that up though.
 
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Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2014-02-10 12:48 PM

Here you go, They dont have yellow on there, but these are the most important anyway. Or maybe yellow doesnt mean anything, let me get back to you on that.

Ah ok had to research that real quick Blue/Yellow are used interchangeably to signify its a stallion. But i think blue is more widely known cause it makes sense Boys wear blue. Right>?

I didnt know there were other colors. Ive only seen the red ribbon around here. Thanks for info.
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I don't put a ribbon in my horse's tail, because she isn't a kicker. But she is a mare, and I will bet money that your stupid trail pony runs up on her, she will probably pin her ears and kick. Because she is a horse and horses do that. Do I condone it? No, do I get after her for it? Heck yes, but I'm not going to give my horse a bad reputation for other people's stupidity, because she is not a 'kicker', she is a horse. Use common sense or stay away from them is all I have to say.

I do put a sign on my gelding's stall where ever we go though, because he is a striker. He will come between those bars so quick you won't know what hit you. I also try to put a blue ribbon in his tail at 4H events, not because he is a stallion, but because he will mount a mare if you leave her too close to him. He has 15 babies on the ground, he knows what a mare is. He also proved at fair a few years ago, he can't be trusted with those irresponsible people around him so it's better to give them the warning.
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cecollins0811 - 2014-02-09 5:17 PM

My gelding isn't a known kicker but when he is around unknown horses he pins his ears back and sometimes tries to lunge at them, especially riding in a small arena warming up. He never really tries to bite them but just scare them off away from him. Should I tie a red ribbon on his tail just so people know to stay away?

Some things to think about... a ribbon at the back end of your horse will not alert people in front of you that your horse might lunge at their horse... Perhaps your horse is jealous and worries about sharing you with other horses.
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rodeomom3 - 2014-02-10 12:16 PM

 I agree others may not know what the red ribbon means but at least you are doing what you can to be responsible.   We had a kicker, couldn't find our ribbon so asked in the office if they had anything I could use.  The lady in line behind me excitedly said I didn't know a ribbon would make them stop kicking,   does it have to be red?  :).  She was a little embarrassed when I explained the purpose of the ribbon.

This is so funny!! Almost as good as the deer crossing lady.
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I apologize but I don't have any tolerance for kickers (whether it be mare or stud) - no matter the circumstances it is unacceptable for a horse to kick another horse when you are riding them. So I am wondering if your child starts biting other kids at daycare (whether provoked or not) - do you put a ribbon on him and send him back or do you correct the problem.
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Ok, I'm just going to step out here and say what everyone is thinking, lol. By all means, get a red ribbon(to help with liability) but yes, it is his fault, no, others shouldn't have to stay away, and I would beat the ever living daylights out of him! There is no horse that would ever be on my feed bill who would be allowed to pin his ears and lunge at other horses.....I'd knock him flat on his back for that and DARE him to ever try that mess again!
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I try to train my horses for success.

I start out small, going to small events where there are a few horses in the warm up, then I gradually increase to full blown chaos.

I believe using little steps allow the horse to have the confidence to handle the crowds.

If my horses misbehave in any way they get their behinds whooped.

I did have one horse that liked their own personal space and would kick when I wasn't around, I had a friend stand by him and smack him everytime he pinned his ears back, this worked, but every year or two he would need a refresher.

If I had a horse that was lunging or kicking in crowded warm ups, I would get there super early to warm up, or would find another place to warm up.

I worry about the children, I wouldn't forgive myself if a child got hurt as a result of me not being able to control my horse
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Bewitching Racer - 2014-02-11 8:55 AM

I apologize but I don't have any tolerance for kickers (whether it be mare or stud) - no matter the circumstances it is unacceptable for a horse to kick another horse when you are riding them. So I am wondering if your child starts biting other kids at daycare (whether provoked or not) - do you put a ribbon on him and send him back or do you correct the problem.

For the sake of opinions ... I agree to a point. I don't condone the kicking/biting/ horrid behavior. However, it takes time to correct behavior that has been allowed by a previous owner/ rider. Should I keep my really good horse at home because the person who owned it before me had no ability to correct certain behaviors? Also, with the kid, do you not allow that child back to school or do you correct it and then allow it to go back knowing that the child has a mind of their own and MIGHT do it again?

I think correction and teaching behavior is a process, just like good parenting. You do your personal best. Sometimes others may be "better" at it than you, but that doesn't mean you are not diligently trying to fix whatever issue. Thus, the ribbons are warnings to others that this horse may be in the process ... Just like those kids at school, sometimes they are sitting at a desk by themselves but they are still at school and participating.

ETA - Of course you keep horses away from others if they are a danger. You start small and work up to large events, correcting behavior and emphasizing change but it takes time. Just like kids who are a DANGER ... they end up in Juvie or other places to correct the behavior.

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I encourage people to put ribbons on problem horses as long as they are admitting and trying to correct the problem. I just strongly feel that kickers are very dangerous and unpredictable and if you don't feel like you have a known kicker under control then they have no business being in a crowded warm up pen. I also think about the children, beginners etc that are on their horses in these warm up pens.
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 I kind of feel like if he misbehaves that bad it's your responsibility to keep him away from any horse he might injure by kicking or biting.  Sometimes inside areas can get pretty crowded and I don't think it's fair to blame someone else for getting too close to your horse.
I would be royally p!ssed if I happened to walk by and he kicked a horse of mine.


  Can you just warm him up outside until you've got his behavior corrected?


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OregonBR - 2014-02-11 9:47 AM Correct the behavior or stay home.   

 
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Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2014-02-10 2:48 PM

Here you go, They dont have yellow on there, but these are the most important anyway. Or maybe yellow doesnt mean anything, let me get back to you on that.

Ah ok had to research that real quick Blue/Yellow are used interchangeably to signify its a stallion. But i think blue is more widely known cause it makes sense Boys wear blue. Right>?

I assume dogs are the same as horses.


a yellow ribbon on a dogs leash or collar usually means, "please give me my space I'm still training" or "please don't crowd me I'm nervous" something like that, which is very similar to the green ribbon.
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I have never in my life seen a horse with a ribbon on it where we run, if I did... until now i never would have known what it meant.
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Karlaw - 2014-02-11 12:30 PM I have never in my life seen a horse with a ribbon on it where we run, if I did... until now i never would have known what it meant.

I have seen 1 around here... I think it was red. I had no clue what it meant but I remembered my mom talking about putting ribbons in their hair for different reasons.  I don't get out much so I wasn't sure how much they were actually used.
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CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 5:04 AM  Just curious what do you do when your horse does that??
 I'm wondering too.
When he pins his ears back I give him a little nudge on the reins but I don't want to really bump him. It's not his fault that horses are super close to him and he's a little grumpy. But when he went after another horse I reined him back in and gave him a little smack on his neck. He hasn't tried it since but we're going to a race next weekend and it might happen again. I'm not mad or blaming any of these people in the arena, we all know how crowded small indoor arenas can get and everyone wants to warm their horse up in a nice warm place than the cold outside, but I figured it would give people at least a warning.
 It is though.. I know you didn't ask for advice and I'm sorry but if my horse did that I would do more than a little.

I agree a little smack on the neck is like swatting a fly. He needs repremanded - he needs to know that when you are in the saddle he is to have manners and behave. I have had several Alpha horses and with time they all learned their boundries. If I did not react then they better not either. He needs to learn his place in your herd. 

I understand all of this but it's a little hard for me to get after him when I am surrounded by everyone's horses. It would be a bad situation if I decided to make him stop and back up if there are horses behind me. For those of you who think making him turn in a circle or just work him in that spot, I would be running into a horse there too.
Also, this is the first time he has ever done it. He is just fine with horses when he stands next to him but it think it's just when one goes by him quickly he just wants to "catch up" or get up to him" aggressively.
He has been ridden in other arenas before with other horses and riders. He's just fine if everyone isn't nose to tail. He is not a known kicker. He is not a known lunger. He is not a known biter. It happened once and I was just wondering if just putting a red ribbon would help some people stay a little away until I know that he won't do it anymore.

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OregonBR - 2014-02-11 11:47 AM Correct the behavior or stay home.   

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cecollins0811 - 2014-02-11 1:41 PM

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CE's wrapn3 - 2014-02-10 5:04 AM  Just curious what do you do when your horse does that??
 I'm wondering too.
When he pins his ears back I give him a little nudge on the reins but I don't want to really bump him. It's not his fault that horses are super close to him and he's a little grumpy. But when he went after another horse I reined him back in and gave him a little smack on his neck. He hasn't tried it since but we're going to a race next weekend and it might happen again. I'm not mad or blaming any of these people in the arena, we all know how crowded small indoor arenas can get and everyone wants to warm their horse up in a nice warm place than the cold outside, but I figured it would give people at least a warning.
 It is though.. I know you didn't ask for advice and I'm sorry but if my horse did that I would do more than a little.

I agree a little smack on the neck is like swatting a fly. He needs repremanded - he needs to know that when you are in the saddle he is to have manners and behave. I have had several Alpha horses and with time they all learned their boundries. If I did not react then they better not either. He needs to learn his place in your herd. 

I understand all of this but it's a little hard for me to get after him when I am surrounded by everyone's horses. It would be a bad situation if I decided to make him stop and back up if there are horses behind me. For those of you who think making him turn in a circle or just work him in that spot, I would be running into a horse there too.
Also, this is the first time he has ever done it. He is just fine with horses when he stands next to him but it think it's just when one goes by him quickly he just wants to "catch up" or get up to him" aggressively.
He has been ridden in other arenas before with other horses and riders. He's just fine if everyone isn't nose to tail. He is not a known kicker. He is not a known lunger. He is not a known biter. It happened once and I was just wondering if just putting a red ribbon would help some people stay a little away until I know that he won't do it anymore.

Since you didn't reprimand him the first time, he is just going to get worse.

You don't have to stop him or jerk on his face or circle him, a good grasp of the reins and a kick with the leg hard enough he knows he has done wrong. This IMO should have been done as soon as he pinned his ears.

Or an good whoping with an over and under with one hand on the reins to ensure he doesn't run anyone over.

If you are willing to blame everyone else for being so close, I suggest get good insurance for negligence as if he hurts someone or their horse, you may loose the farm as you knew he had the tendency as he has done it previously.
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Im going to tie a ribbon on my truck so everyone knows I drive like an idiot and dont want to take responsibility for it....


























I might even mail a ribbon to the IRS instead of a check!
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Itsme - 2014-02-11 2:00 PM

Im going to tie a ribbon on my truck so everyone knows I drive like an idiot and dont want to take responsibility for it....


























I might even mail a ribbon to the IRS instead of a check!

LOL Love this!
And it has truth to it! like OregonBR said correct the behavior or stay home!

ALSO for that other long argument going on above. when they pin their ears and get ****y i just slap them on the neck or bump them with my leg and i say "quit". soon enough they test it enough and as soon as they even look at a horse wrong i say quit and they go "yes ma'am" and stand quiet.
It takes consistency but it works. Well it has for all of my horses. anyway.
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Itsme - 2014-02-11 2:00 PM

Im going to tie a ribbon on my truck so everyone knows I drive like an idiot and dont want to take responsibility for it....


























I might even mail a ribbon to the IRS instead of a check!

LOL Love this!
And it has truth to it! like OregonBR said correct the behavior or stay home!

ALSO for that other long argument going on above. when they pin their ears and get ****y i just slap them on the neck or bump them with my leg and i say "quit". soon enough they test it enough and as soon as they even look at a horse wrong i say quit and they go "yes ma'am" and stand quiet.
It takes consistency but it works. Well it has for all of my horses. anyway.

I'm with you...just bump them and say QUIT or when they hump up to kick catch them in the mouth and add spurs. I used to ride one that was a BAD bucker and kicker until I had a trainer that gave me a whip and spurs and said "every time he bucks you MAKE him give you a rodeo." So if your horse goes to lunge at another horse, catch them in the face HARD and right away, but only immediately when they go to lunge at another horse. And if they go to kick, MAKE them WORK...ADD SPUR so that your horse is really uncomfortable. They will learn to accept the close proximity of other horses before long. Also practice having your friends run up on you at home until your horse chills out.
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