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  Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Can we have a very serious saddle thread on here? Maybe one pinned to the top? Where people with knowledge and possibly even some saddle makers could come on here and offer information? Too many times there are people with sore horses who do not know where else to turn to get information and learn. Many times people are only stressing to them the gullet width when in fact they need to consider other factors as well such as bar shape and tree shape and width. I know everybody kept telling me to go wider and wider with my horse and it turned out to be a huge mistake. He didn't need wider as much as the right bars and tree.
i don't want this to be a thread of arguing and bickering, but I would like to see people talk about different trees, bars, gullets, reasons why, and brands that offer certain things. |
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Location: North Central Iowa Land of white frozen grass | +1
I would like to see this as a thread also.
And lets keep it about facts about fitting and not about brands. |
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 More bootie than waist!
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Great idea Missroselee. We used to get Pro barrel racers come on here every once in a while to answer our questions why can't we get rep's from some of the saddle companies? Caldwell, Martin, Cactus, Coats.......That would be an awesome help to so many and then put it in one thread at the top so we don't have to go searching. |
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 I Chore in Chucks
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Location: MD |  love this idea! |
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 Experienced Mouse Trapper
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Location: North Dakota | Me too, something else I would like is a database of sizes including tree's and their measurements, for me, the leg opening on saddles for example I know a sharon camarillo #38 tree is a SQHB and that a 15' has a leg opening of 11 inches (from swells to cantle) I really want to try a pozzi and a mary walker saddle but of course, no one has one in a 15 or 15.5 with out me special ordering. I know what fits me and would like to buy used if at all possible. Some companies have really good information on their websites and others not so much. So if any of you have a 15 inch pozzi or mary walker saddle will you measure the distance between the swell and the cantle for me ? :) |
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Location: Kansas | Sounds like a great idea to me! |
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Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | We need to discuss brands though so people know what each brand offers. We just need to keep the discussions neutral and fact based. |
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 Hog Tie My Mojo
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Location: Opelousas, LA | I just want someone to invent a thingy that will scan a horses back and tell you what will fit your horse. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Barnmom - 2014-02-24 10:14 AM I just want someone to invent a thingy that will scan a horses back and tell you what will fit your horse.
Please do. You'd have us lined up to buy it. |
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Location: EDGE OF INSANITY | Barnmom - 2014-02-24 11:14 AM
I just want someone to invent a thingy that will scan a horses back and tell you what will fit your horse.
YES!!! i swear i think i have it all figured out and then i read another article or watch another you tube vid about saddle fit and then i get confused all over again lol |
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Hog Tie My Mojo
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Location: Opelousas, LA | horsepoor1 - 2014-02-24 10:22 AM Barnmom - 2014-02-24 11:14 AM I just want someone to invent a thingy that will scan a horses back and tell you what will fit your horse. YES!!! i swear i think i have it all figured out and then i read another article or watch another you tube vid about saddle fit and then i get confused all over again lol
And then when you finally get it right after going thru 3764597345 saddles, they grow/fill out/get fitter/lose weight and you have to start all over again, lol. |
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Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | See, you guys are proving my point why we need a good educational thread! Every horse will be different but I think it would be great to put as much information as possible in one place so people can look at it and maybe find what works for their horse. I think we need to include how muscle tone and training techniques affect a horses back. And also talk about saddle pads and the effectiveness of shimming. |
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 I Love the Oldies
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Location: Four Corners Colorado |
I want to know why all the saddles I like to ride in and that feel like they fit my colts well are made in the 1920's
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 Jeter is my second husband!
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| And too bad we couldn't start a BHW "saddle swapping" program!!! |
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 I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | wimpyB is a saddle fitting expert and does it for a living. She has helped me the most when I get in a saddle fitting bind. She helped me fix 2 horses with proper saddle fitting. |
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Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Well I've asked several knowledgable people to come here and help out but they turned me down because of the reputation for drama here. I'm thinking of starting a Facebook page where we can post, ask questions, share links, and maybe get more people involved. But then I hate feeling like I'm excluding the people who don't have Facebook. |
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I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | missroselee - 2014-02-24 2:04 PM Well I've asked several knowledgable people to come here and help out but they turned me down because of the reputation for drama here. I'm thinking of starting a Facebook page where we can post, ask questions, share links, and maybe get more people involved. But then I hate feeling like I'm excluding the people who don't have Facebook.
That's an oxymoron as if Facebook doesn't have drama!
I find it to be the #1 in drama, soap opera and TMI! LOL |
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More bootie than waist!
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | missroselee - 2014-02-24 2:04 PM Well I've asked several knowledgable people to come here and help out but they turned me down because of the reputation for drama here. I'm thinking of starting a Facebook page where we can post, ask questions, share links, and maybe get more people involved. But then I hate feeling like I'm excluding the people who don't have Facebook.
That's too bad but I also say the main reason I stay off FB is the drama. There used to be an old guy around here that ran a saddle shop. He carried good qualilty saddles and tack and knew a lot about saddle fit. It didn't matter if someone pulled in his yard with a trailer full of horses and saddles that they had bought somewhere else or won, he'd take the time to fit your horses and let you know what was working and what wasn't. He passed on a few years ago to cancer. I sure miss him. |
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Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Nevertooold - 2014-02-24 3:31 PM missroselee - 2014-02-24 2:04 PM Well I've asked several knowledgable people to come here and help out but they turned me down because of the reputation for drama here. I'm thinking of starting a Facebook page where we can post, ask questions, share links, and maybe get more people involved. But then I hate feeling like I'm excluding the people who don't have Facebook. That's an oxymoron as if Facebook doesn't have drama!
I find it to be the #1 in drama, soap opera and TMI! LOL
I agree but I don't know what else to do to get people to participate. I think ill do the best I can on here to post links and articles |
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Location: S. California Beach | The problem is...there are certain fads/trends in saddle fitting right now and people tend to subscribe to the fad/trend and dont want to learn about the true saddle fit theories. Then toss in the various aspects of saddle fit, different makers theiroes on each aspect and you get people lost (even when the basics are confusing to them), its very hard. I cant talk saddle fit with people any more, they all want a 10" gullet up on the horses shoulders  |
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 Thick and Wavy
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Location: Nebraska | Lynn McKenzie has a few videos on Youtube that explain how her Double J saddles fit/work. I found them extremely helpful when I was looking. |
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The Advice Guru
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| Barnmom - 2014-02-24 10:14 AM
I just want someone to invent a thingy that will scan a horses back and tell you what will fit your horse.
There is a lady Barbara Kennedy from Calgary Alberta that is starting to do this, she is using thermal imaging to assist with saddle fit. I messaged her on Facebook to inquire about it. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | cheryl makofka - 2014-02-24 3:51 PM Barnmom - 2014-02-24 10:14 AM I just want someone to invent a thingy that will scan a horses back and tell you what will fit your horse. There is a lady Barbara Kennedy from Calgary Alberta that is starting to do this, she is using thermal imaging to assist with saddle fit. I messaged her on Facebook to inquire about it.
But you still have to try saddles on the horse to get the images. We want something that tells you what will fit ahead of time so you don't have to buy and sell 327 different ones to find what works.  |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | missroselee - 2014-02-24 2:56 PM Nevertooold - 2014-02-24 3:31 PM missroselee - 2014-02-24 2:04 PM Well I've asked several knowledgable people to come here and help out but they turned me down because of the reputation for drama here. I'm thinking of starting a Facebook page where we can post, ask questions, share links, and maybe get more people involved. But then I hate feeling like I'm excluding the people who don't have Facebook. That's an oxymoron as if Facebook doesn't have drama!
I find it to be the #1 in drama, soap opera and TMI! LOL
Alison said Charon Caldwell was very nice and knowledgable. Maybe you could ask her to come talk. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I would think Carl Ammerman would be a good one to visit with, I have talked to him a few times and I like the way he thinks |
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Lickable I mean Likeable
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Location: De Berry, Tx | I would totally love for some good non drama saddle input! I have invested over $6000 in saddles trying to fit my gelding. I still have one for sale and unless I give it away no one is interested and it is new and a good name brand. I wish there was some one that would help you that didn't just represent one brand that could help you. I will say when I was at Kinder last weekend I was very impressed with Lynn Mckenzie and Double J and their thirst to make sure the horse is comfortable. They seemed like they would custom make a tree to fit if they didn't have it already |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Nevertooold - 2014-02-24 12:55 PM wimpyB is a saddle fitting expert and does it for a living. She has helped me the most when I get in a saddle fitting bind. She helped me fix 2 horses with proper saddle fitting.
I agree......
Another option would be to make up a "set of questions" and send it to each company requesting answers and then post those answers. |
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More bootie than waist!
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | cheryl makofka - 2014-02-24 3:51 PM Barnmom - 2014-02-24 10:14 AM I just want someone to invent a thingy that will scan a horses back and tell you what will fit your horse. There is a lady Barbara Kennedy from Calgary Alberta that is starting to do this, she is using thermal imaging to assist with saddle fit. I messaged her on Facebook to inquire about it.
There is a vet in SE South Dakota that is doing this also. I can PM anyone with a contact if interested. |
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 Own It and Move On
Location: The edge of no where | NJJ - 2014-02-24 5:01 PM Nevertooold - 2014-02-24 12:55 PM wimpyB is a saddle fitting expert and does it for a living. She has helped me the most when I get in a saddle fitting bind. She helped me fix 2 horses with proper saddle fitting.
Another option would be to make up a "set of questions" and send it to each company requesting answers and then post those answers.
Awesome idea! |
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Location: Arkansas | Love this idea!! I've used the same saddle since I was 14 and I feel like its time to shop around for a new one. This would be perfect to help me shop!! |
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Damn Yankee
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | What do you guys think of this article?
http://www.western-saddle-guide.com/saddle-tree.html |
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 Winner winner chicken dinner
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Location: California | CYA Ranch - 2014-02-25 4:01 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-02-24 3:51 PM Barnmom - 2014-02-24 10:14 AM I just want someone to invent a thingy that will scan a horses back and tell you what will fit your horse. There is a lady Barbara Kennedy from Calgary Alberta that is starting to do this, she is using thermal imaging to assist with saddle fit. I messaged her on Facebook to inquire about it.
One of my high school friends is a leading integrated vetrinarian and she does thermal imaging in addition to other alternative and traditional methods. She just posted on her practice's FB page (Inspiritus Equine) that she needed to get her saddle adjusted after doing a scan. She is an English rider, but I just thought I'd share her pics because you all were chatting about it and it's really interesting!
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Location: Living in my Promised Land | Good basic information. No wonder we all get so confused. |
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With all the saddle talk lately....