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what can you tell me about these bloodlines
Alicat0909
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2014-02-24 4:35 PM
Subject: what can you tell me about these bloodlines



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I have a gelding in training who has about as much athletic ability of a snail. Hard keeper no desire to work anf when I first got him in he would rather fight you than just do what I asked. Hed throw temper tantrums when asked to work and then turn into an all around dead head. I know what his hreeding his but I've never actually worked with an animal with these particular bloodlines. A little history on him.

I got him in august for training. Found out two months into training he had an injury as a 2 year old. She is trying to get a chiro and massage therapist out. He doesn't act in pain just doesn't want to work. The only indicator of the injury is he has a hard time picking up his right lead. (He took a t post to the chest on the left side.) Now he is pretty quiet and I give lessons on him but again no desire to work. He is over developed on his roght side in his muscles so o assume that was from protecting his injury.

I literally just found out his breeding yesterday so this all came as a shock to me. Iwith that breeding I expected it to belong to a horse who wants to work and is very athletic. Yes she is addressing his old injury and is going to have him tube wormed, scoped for ulcers, and a corrective farrier come out.

Here's his breeding .

http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/wicked+rain+dancer

If someone wants to see him I can send pics to be posted but I don't know how to from my phone.


Wanted to add before he came to me he had 3 months training as a 3 year old then wasn't touched until july when he kicked at his owner and she brought him to me then.





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Tilt The Kilt
Reg. Jan 2005
Posted 2014-02-24 4:47 PM
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Horses don't know what they "should be" on paper - that's all that is. They are what they are.  I've known a few lazy Streakin Six horses and my The Ole Man granddaughter was also just a pleasure riding horse, sold her to a friend for ranch work. 
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Alicat0909
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2014-02-24 4:57 PM
Subject: RE: what can you tell me about these bloodlines



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Tilt The Kilt - 2014-02-24 4:47 PM

Horses don't know what they "should be" on paper - that's all that is. They are what they are.  I've known a few lazy Streakin Six horses and my The Ole Man granddaughter was also just a pleasure riding horse, sold her to a friend for ranch work. 

I know this. But from other people and what I've read on here generally this breeding is pretty athletic, smart, willingness to work. He's total opposite. I'm not sure if he will perk up after treatment or just always be this way.
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Honeymoney
Reg. Apr 2012
Posted 2014-02-24 8:14 PM
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The Ole Man horses can run down the track but have not really been know for their athletic ability.
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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-02-24 11:43 PM
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I had a mare bred similar. She came in as a type of rescue from a horse trader. She was starved and had little trust. She was not a mare that you could force into anything. I was the only person who got along with her long term and it was a lot of trust. She also wouldnt turn right, which actually resolved itself with time.

I spent tons and tons of time with her. I did a lot of outside work, trails and field work. If you pushed her, she would rear and lock up both mentally and physically. It took me a year of just messing with her, trail rides, just good ole bonding and she ended up being one of the best horses ive ever had.

She did pass away too young at 8 right before we were really gonna start hauling. I miss her everyday and never know where her potential may have stopped. Very talented.

These characteristics could be related to her backstory which obviously we could only speculate.

Good luck
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Alicat0909
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2014-02-24 11:55 PM
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Thanks yall. Like I said I've heard good things about these about these horses but never had the chance to work with one so wasn't sure if this was the norm or if he was a thrw back. His attitude doesn't change anything. If he isn't meant to work he won't.
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BARRELHORSE USA
Reg. Sep 2011
Posted 2014-02-25 12:31 PM
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I would put his problems with the t post injury and not his breeding ... his smaller left side sez muscle atrophy to me and no telling what his ligament and joint problems are. Always keep in mind the shoulder and stifles are held in place only by muscles and if those muscles are strained or torn and allows the shoulder to move then it puts tremendous strain on his shoulder and clavicle.

His resistance to a right lead could come from his inability to drop his left side back behind the right lead and movement of his shoulder blade. In a lope or canter in the right lead his front right and left rear are moving in unison and that leaves his left front and right rear supporting weight or movement when all 4 feet are off the ground.

I would make a trail horse out of him and forget about training him for any strenuous events such as barrel racing or other arena events ....

Even race track horses that have been injured at full gallop have pain memory and will refuse to go full out after an injury and there is nothing you can do about it ...



Edited by BARRELHORSE USA 2014-02-25 12:33 PM
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LRQHS
Reg. Nov 2011
Posted 2014-02-25 12:34 PM
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I don't know a Streakin Six horse that I don't like or of any with training problems.
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Three 4 Luck
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-02-25 1:16 PM
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LRQHS - 2014-02-25 12:34 PM I don't know a Streakin Six horse that I don't like or of any with training problems.

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Alicat0909
Reg. Mar 2011
Posted 2014-02-25 1:48 PM
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BARRELHORSE USA - 2014-02-25 12:31 PM

I would put his problems with the t post injury and not his breeding ... his smaller left side sez muscle atrophy to me and no telling what his ligament and joint problems are. Always keep in mind the shoulder and stifles are held in place only by muscles and if those muscles are strained or torn and allows the shoulder to move then it puts tremendous strain on his shoulder and clavicle.

His resistance to a right lead could come from his inability to drop his left side back behind the right lead and movement of his shoulder blade. In a lope or canter in the right lead his front right and left rear are moving in unison and that leaves his left front and right rear supporting weight or movement when all 4 feet are off the ground.

I would make a trail horse out of him and forget about training him for any strenuous events such as barrel racing or other arena events ....

Even race track horses that have been injured at full gallop have pain memory and will refuse to go full out after an injury and there is nothing you can do about it ...


I agree. She orginally sent him to me for barrel training. After two days I knew he'd never be a barrel horse. I knew nothing about him when I got him but have slowly learned thinhs over yhe months. Like the injury and his breeding.

After a few weeks in training I made it clear he'd never be a barrel horse but with time could make a ranch pleasure horse. She is a very timid rider and orginally wanted me to sell him. I've convinced her to keep him because he will be perfect for her. Now I have to stay on her about getting him the proper care he needs. When I got him in he had never even seen a farrier. And hes 6 years old. He finally had his teeth done and a farrier work on him. Not to see a vet and specialist! As sad as it is I'm glad to know what the issue actually is and he isn't just a hard horse who hates work. Camt wait to help fix his problems now. I have high hopes for hom. Even if he is just a trail horse : )
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