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 Some Kind of Trouble
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| I recently adopted a puppy from the pound that had been abandoned. It wasn't a great time for me to get a puppy (tax season, long hours at work) but I wanted to give him a home and originally thought he was older than he is so crate training would work. I would guess he can't be more than 9-10 weeks now. That, along with a wormy belly that hasn't cleared up yet, and he is bloating a lot, is making it impossible for him to make it with crate training right now. I want to break up his feed and watering a lot more through out the day, which is only going to make him need a potty break even more often.
He did okay for a while but now has been having accidents in his crate, even when I'm letting him out a lot. I completely realize he is just too young so I need a better solution for a few weeks until I can attempt the crate again and he can make it longer and work slows down, etc. He's only allowed in the garage, but letting him have the run of it really isn't an option with vehicles going in and out. I have a small puppy pen but I'm worried that it's too small to allow him to potty in one area and sleep and eat in another and he'll just be one big mess... lol I don't want him to learn that it's okay to go where he sleeps or in his crate.
Any ideas for this poor little guy and this frazzled owner? 
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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | Do you have any friends or family that could "puppysit" while you are at work OR come and take him out during the day?
How big is your "puppy pen"? |
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Location: Southeastern Idaho | I wish you lived closer, I have a HUGE dog crate that you could put puppy pads at one end and his bed at the other. I use this when I am fostering puppies for our local shelter. They learn to use those puppy pads quickly. But maybe you could do that with your puppy pen. |
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Some Kind of Trouble
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| RacingQH - 2014-02-26 9:35 AM Do you have any friends or family that could "puppysit" while you are at work OR come and take him out during the day?
How big is your "puppy pen"?
I'm sure I could talk my mom into keeping him for a while, which I considered. My only problem with that is that he has had a few accidents in the crate even during the hours I'm home and routinely taking him outside. I'm just not sure he's mature enough to hold it yet even when he tries.
The pen is probably 3x3 feet or slightly larger but he's a pretty good sized puppy.
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Some Kind of Trouble
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| luvropin - 2014-02-26 9:44 AM I wish you lived closer, I have a HUGE dog crate that you could put puppy pads at one end and his bed at the other. I use this when I am fostering puppies for our local shelter. They learn to use those puppy pads quickly. But maybe you could do that with your puppy pen.
I do have puppy pads but I've never "trained" a puppy with them... any advice? I've had them laying around and he's never chosen to go on them, but I've never been actively trying to teach him either. It would be great if I could get him to stick to one in his little pen. |
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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | If they are healthy, a puppy that age can hold it for a few hours. When you take him out, do you make USRE he "goes"? Or just take him out for a while them bring him in wether he "goes" or not? Why is he in the crate when you are home? You mean when you are busy and can't watch him? What kind of a puppy is he? (Best guess.) |
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Some Kind of Trouble
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| RacingQH - 2014-02-26 10:07 AM If they are healthy, a puppy that age can hold it for a few hours. When you take him out, do you make USRE he "goes"? Or just take him out for a while them bring him in wether he "goes" or not? Why is he in the crate when you are home? You mean when you are busy and can't watch him? What kind of a puppy is he? (Best guess.)
He's not 100% healthy.. he was abandoned, still scrawny and wormy (being treated) so I'm sure that doesn't help. He will always pee when he goes out, #2 is more the problem. It has been overnight, even with setting my alarm to take him out. He's a pit x hound of some kind. Thanks.. |
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Location: Southeastern Idaho | What I do with puppy pads is put them in a confined space, like a crate or you could use your puppy pen. Make one side his living space with food, water and bed...but make it tight so there isn't a lot of open floor. Then on the other side place a pad or two to cover the area. I haven't had a dog mess where they sleep if they have an option, so not sure what to do if yours is messing where he sleeps. I check often and if I happened to catch them using the pads they get TREATS! and lots of pets. Also, change the pad before it gets too soiled for him to walk on it and find a good place to pee or poo. As they start using the pads you can extend the space between the bed and the pads. Good luck! |
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Location: Midwest | We are gone for 8-12 hours on a regular basis. Here is what we did for our puppy.
We set up the crate with his water. Do not put down any soft bedding in this are just yet. We would leave the door to the crate open and put the puppy playpen around it just a tiny bit (like having 4 panels make a small "square" in the area just in front of the crate. We put a tarp down, then covered that area in the puppy pads.
He soon learned to lay where his food/water was, and pee on the pads (which have some scent to entice them). Peeing in the crate was bad news because he was forced to lay in the wetness, so he stopped. Hence, the no bedding rule. While we had bedding in there, he would pee on it and not be uncomfortable. So the bedding went byebye.
Worked well for us. Once he was 3-6 months and could actually hold it, we just removed the "pen" and shut the crate door. He is about 3 now and once he was house trained, he has never had any accidents since. |
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Location: The edge of no where | luvropin - 2014-02-26 2:30 PM What I do with puppy pads is put them in a confined space, like a crate or you could use your puppy pen. Make one side his living space with food, water and bed...but make it tight so there isn't a lot of open floor. Then on the other side place a pad or two to cover the area. I haven't had a dog mess where they sleep if they have an option, so not sure what to do if yours is messing where he sleeps. I check often and if I happened to catch them using the pads they get TREATS! and lots of pets. Also, change the pad before it gets too soiled for him to walk on it and find a good place to pee or poo. As they start using the pads you can extend the space between the bed and the pads. Good luck!
^^ This
Thank you for adopting him and giving him a chance. |
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This is what I'm hoping will work out... I tried it first and he just kind of went EVERYWHERE and tracked it everywhere in his pen, etc. but he was in a new place, all alone, etc and maybe he has settled in better now. Thank you for letting me know it did work for you!
I'm so glad I adopted this time.. I think he's really going to be a nice dog too!
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Location: Texas! | Crate training usually works best when the crate is just big enough for them to get up turn around and lay down. Less likely for them to mess in their little home. |
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Location: Kansas | http://modernpuppies.com/
This looks like a great idea, for you and your pup. It is one crate with two areas. They have an instructional video, on crate training and it makes sense to me. They don't seem much more expensive than a normal crate. |
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Location: Wisconsin | Yes make sure the crate is not much bigger than the pup is. They figure it out pretty quickly not to go to the bathroom where they sleep. I would also put a cover or a sheet over ours, sometimes they like a little quiet den to rest in. We have always figured for every month old they are, its about a hour of bladder hold time. |
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Location: Everywhere | Our puppy was doing the same thing peeing in his crate so we started to controll his drinking not letting him have all he wanted and no water after 9:00 pm this worked for us good luck  |
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Some Kind of Trouble
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| runnin hard - 2014-02-26 8:27 PM http://modernpuppies.com/
This looks like a great idea, for you and your pup. It is one crate with two areas. They have an instructional video, on crate training and it makes sense to me. They don't seem much more expensive than a normal crate.
Now that's an idea... I have a large crate that I bet I could make into this!
I tried the puppy pen with attached kennel last night.. that little sucker got out within 5 minutes and I rigged it up everyway I knew how. lol So the puppy pen is a failure.
Then I tried the large kennel with a puppy pad at one end and not bedding it down so he wouldn't sleep in a wet spot... nope, he prefers to sleep on the puppy pad and go wherever he wanted and now my garage stinks from him wallering around in everything!
His regular kennel/crate is only big enough for him to lay in, it's not a matter of him having room to go.. it's just that he can't hold it with the hours I'm working right at the moment. And he has some health issues going on that he needs to be fed and watered in small amounts all day long. He's not being a bad puppy, we're just having scheduling conflicts!
I may try to make my large kennel into two areas like the one in the link or I've talked to my brother and I will haul the puppy to town in the morning to his house so he's close enough to get to easier during the day and he gets off work earlier so he can let him out also before I pick him up. Hopefully a couple weeks and it'll get better!
Thanks for all of the suggestions.
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Location: Never in one place long | I think the above have given some good tips! Maybe a treat EVERY time he potties outside?? You are awesome for adopting/saving him!!! :) |
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Puppy too young for crate training...ideas please..