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| Anyone have good or bad results with tildren? Would like some input! Thank you! |
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| For broken bones, I have had great results, vet gave if tildren, you can't even tell by X-ray the horses had fractures or breaks.
For non calcified bone spurs, completely reabsorbed.
Thank goodness I haven't had navicular problems, knock on wood but have heard many have had good luck |
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| My mare has a bruised pastern bone per MRI. We did three Tildren injections two weeks apart. At first she improved then about a month after the last injection she was totally lame again. We are turning her out and breeding her. |
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| ktbracer - 2014-02-26 9:14 PM
My mare has a bruised pastern bone per MRI. We did three Tildren injections two weeks apart. At first she improved then about a month after the last injection she was totally lame again. We are turning her out and breeding her.
Oh no!!! I'm sorry to hear that :( thank you for sharing!!! |
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| Great results with my navicular mare. |
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Location: Everywhere | Would also like to try but don't know if it is good for arthritis??? |
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| I injected hocks with it because steroids were no longer working, my guy is working better than he has in a while. (Knock on wood) could tell he felt better in the pasture just a few days after. I did this middle of December and have not had to inject again yet. |
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| My vet used tildren on one of my mares when she was fusing and she was lame for some time and progressively got worse. She is ok now but it took 2 years for her to get past it.
so either it did not work or it made it worst. either way it was a waste of money
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | People often get confused or use the incorrect terms but it does not help to "resbsorb" bone- it stops "resorption" which is bone mass loss or breakdown. So instead of bone loss from whatever injury or issue you may have- it stops the chemical reaction process thing -(pardon my technical terms)aka damaging process of bone loss. So if you catch an issue early- it can be very effective.
I used it twice and saw long term results. Navicular and hocks. |
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Location: Buffalo, Wyoming | For those who have used it how much did you pay. If you want to PM that is fine. |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | Mine was several years ago- and two different methods at two different clinics. I want to say it was $1500 for the IV and $600 and $900 regional profusion?? |
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| KV Farm - 2014-02-27 7:01 AM
My vet used tildren on one of my mares when she was fusing and she was lame for some time and progressively got worse. She is ok now but it took 2 years for her to get past it.
so either it did not work or it made it worst. either way it was a waste of money
Good to know!!! |
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| The hock injections cost less than steroid injections and the regional perfusion for navicular was $640 |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | My navicular horse showed zero improvement on it (via regional limb profusion) in either bone density or soundness. But he was fairly advanced before we tried it.
Edited by RockinGR 2014-02-27 1:28 PM
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| TurnLane - 2014-02-27 9:09 AM
People often get confused or use the incorrect terms but it does not help to "resbsorb" bone- it stops "resorption" which is bone mass loss or breakdown. So instead of bone loss from whatever injury or issue you may have- it stops the chemical reaction process thing -(pardon my technical terms)aka damaging process of bone loss. So if you catch an issue early- it can be very effective.I used it twice and saw long term results. Navicular and hocks.
Question how can it work on hocks as it is the cartilage that is damaged not the bone in the beginning |
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| I just did IV and it was just over 900. Regional was around 350-400 I believe. |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | cheryl makofka - 2014-02-27 2:08 PM TurnLane - 2014-02-27 9:09 AM People often get confused or use the incorrect terms but it does not help to "resbsorb" bone- it stops "resorption" which is bone mass loss or breakdown. So instead of bone loss from whatever injury or issue you may have- it stops the chemical reaction process thing -(pardon my technical terms)aka damaging process of bone loss. So if you catch an issue early- it can be very effective.
I used it twice and saw long term results. Navicular and hocks. Question how can it work on hocks as it is the cartilage that is damaged not the bone in the beginning
Im not exactly well versed on this topic as it was 5 years ago- but I am just gonna guess that this often we dont see the changes until it is too late as far as on xray? So if in fact the cartilage is damaged first- then next will be bone? Much like in younger life of the horse the formation of bone exceeds resorption. Then as they age or inflamation/damage occurs the opposite is true. So loss of bone exceeds formation and Tildren is proven to stop the chemical breakdown/loss of more bone therefore slowing the damaging effects. Just how I have it in my mind when I was deep in study on this topic. |
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| luckygirl04 - 2014-02-27 12:17 PM
KV Farm - 2014-02-27 7:01 AM
My vet used tildren on one of my mares when she was fusing and she was lame for some time and progressively got worse. She is ok now but it took 2 years for her to get past it.
so either it did not work or it made it worst. either way it was a waste of money
Good to know!!!
If I recall correctly I paid about 90 bucks a joint ( it was bilateral)
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| TurnLane - 2014-02-27 4:26 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-02-27 2:08 PM TurnLane - 2014-02-27 9:09 AM People often get confused or use the incorrect terms but it does not help to "resbsorb" bone- it stops "resorption" which is bone mass loss or breakdown. So instead of bone loss from whatever injury or issue you may have- it stops the chemical reaction process thing -(pardon my technical terms)aka damaging process of bone loss. So if you catch an issue early- it can be very effective.
I used it twice and saw long term results. Navicular and hocks. Question how can it work on hocks as it is the cartilage that is damaged not the bone in the beginning
I get that but tildren is not a pain reliever nor an antiinflammatory, so if the hock is bone on bone, yes there is no bone breakdown, but there is still the shearing action which cause inflammation and pain.
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Location: Central Texas | navicular issues and Tildren saved my guy's career. Long term success with my guy. Yeah
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| It helped my navicular horse alot. I did a treatment last June she has been sound every since and she gets used and hauled alot.
I am curious who all has had to do multiple treatments and if so how far apart? My vet told me we would see how she does but should prob plan on yearly. |
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Location: Middle Tennessee | I was told it was used in one of my geldings by his previous owner. He had changes to the navicular bone at a very young age, was given Tildren, and is now very competitve and will be starting his WPRA rodeo career soon. He was also successful in the futurities. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | My vet told me Tildren was not a viable option for my mare with Navicular. |
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Location: Weatherford, TX | We have used it for about 3 years. Our vet was one of first approved to use it here.
We do it at least once of the year. We have a 15YO DTF gelding that has had 2 serious knee surgeries. It has really done wonders for him.
ETA... I think the younger you use it, the better results you get. Say if a colt had an injury in the knee maybe, I think it would help more than we started our guy at 12. Hope that makes sense.
Love be it and will continue to use it. :)
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Location: Sperry, OK | missroselee - 2014-03-03 12:40 PM My vet told me Tildren was not a viable option for my mare with Navicular.
depends on how advanced the disease is on the bone... once they are too far gone, there is no point because even Tildren won't make it better. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-03-03 1:50 PM missroselee - 2014-03-03 12:40 PM My vet told me Tildren was not a viable option for my mare with Navicular. depends on how advanced the disease is on the bone... once they are too far gone, there is no point because even Tildren won't make it better.
it's not advanced at all. She's not even lame, never been lame. She just started obliterating barrels two years ago and I wouldn't stop until we came up with something. Started xraying her every six months until we saw changes in the cartilage on the bottom of her right navicular bone. Vet said those changes were causing soft tissue camage to the tendons. Only better look was to do an MRI but it wouldn't change the treatment so I just turned her out to breed. I don't want to haul her with my current gelding anways. We put her on TLC equibone but it hasn't been long enough to see a difference. |
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Location: Texas Baby!! | I have used it with great success!! My gelding improved GREATLY.....treatment cost me $500 and I did it IV! |
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Location: Sperry, OK | missroselee - 2014-03-03 12:55 PM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-03-03 1:50 PM missroselee - 2014-03-03 12:40 PM My vet told me Tildren was not a viable option for my mare with Navicular. depends on how advanced the disease is on the bone... once they are too far gone, there is no point because even Tildren won't make it better.
She probably wasn't a candidate because it wasn't in the bone... it was cartilidge and soft tissue. Sounds similar to an issue TurnLane had, they treated with stem cells to repair damage to the tendons in the foot. |
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| I had super results for hock issues I was having. Injections were not working any longer. Tildren IV systemic was $650. Very impressed with my Tildren results. |
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Location: Central Texas | Opinions please. If your horse has arthritic hocks, would you suggest going straight to Tildren or doing the regular injections first? I am just curious if the Tildren would be more bang for the buck in addition to maybe not be as detrimental on the cartilage as regular injections. Also, if Tildren is used for hocks, is the procedure systemic IV or could regional limb perfusion be done? |
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Location: Texas | I have read that Tildren is most effective on relatively new issues, and not as effective on chronic issues that have been going on for a while. Have any of you experienced this? I have a horse that has had chronic heel pain for about the past five years and wondering if it would help him at all. |
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| My mare was crippled for nearly two years and Tildren worked on her (for hocks).
IDK about going directly to Tildren. I just followed the path of my vet and he did injections, then Tildren. Not sure why.
He also told me regional profusion was not as effective as systemic.
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Location: Central Texas | y_do_i_do_this - 2014-11-07 8:59 AM
My mare was crippled for nearly two years and Tildren worked on her (for hocks).
IDK about going directly to Tildren. I just followed the path of my vet and he did injections, then Tildren. Not sure why.
He also told me regional profusion was not as effective as systemic.
How long ago did you do the Tildren for the hocks? I was just wondering how long it might last. I know every horse is different but was just curious.
Edited: I was wondering if the new drug Osphos, which is an IM, would be beneficial to hocks as Tildren is? Might have to check with my vet on this.
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| I had it done in September, so not long enough to tell......vet said may last 6 mos to a year.
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Tildren, what are your results with it??