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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | Long story short my mom has the stomach flu or norovirus per her dr. but was not "tested" Since monday she's had symptoms and I live with her and have yet to get sick- as I'm aware 24-48hrs is the incubation time.
I am to leave for FL on Mon. with non refunable tix traveling with my prego best friend- My drs office thinks its fine as I show no symptoms and have been keeping good hygiene.
Her dr.'s office told her its a horrible idea and the virus particles are shed 2 weeks after and I could have it although I'm not having any symptoms. My issue here is I will be losing out on $400 worth of tix for something I Do Not have please help me I'm literally in tears and fighting with my germophobe best friend. I understand shes 34 weeks prego and concerned but I'm not sure its quite as deadly as shes thinking? |
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Location: Slipping down the slope of old age. Boo hoo. | Your friend is going to get on an airplane with a hundred + people who may or may not have who knows what virus and spend several hours with those people yet she is worried about you? Oh my. I'd be much more worried about who was sitting behind me or in front of me on the airplane what was on those flip down trays on the airplane. When I travel I use cleansing wipes to wipe down the tray on the airplane seat and anything and everything else on the airplane I *might* touch as well as watch out when sitting in or touching those chairs in the waiting area in the airport. Eeeeewwwww. ICKY. I think she is worrying way too much about you.... For all she knows, Typhoid Mary could be on that airplane flight with you. (By the way, I am very surprised she is flying at 34 weeks.)
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | Delta Cowgirl - 2014-02-27 5:54 PM Your friend is going to get on an airplane with a hundred + people who may or may not have who knows what virus and spend several hours with those people yet she is worried about you? Oh my. I'd be much more worried about who was sitting behind me or in front of me on the airplane what was on those flip down trays on the airplane. When I travel I use cleansing wipes to wipe down the tray on the airplane seat and anything and everything else on the airplane I *might* touch as well as watch out when sitting in or touching those chairs in the waiting area in the airport. Eeeeewwwww. ICKY. I think she is worrying way too much about you.... For all she knows, Typhoid Mary could be on that airplane flight with you. (By the way, I am very surprised she is flying at 34 weeks.)
yeah her dr. told her until 35 weeks which is when she will be back.... I'm just so distraught over this She is my very best friend in the world but not when shes acting this way... I just dont think I'm wrong when I'm not sick... plus the way its spread is through vomit and fecal matter |
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Location: ND | 'stomache flu' can be from a variety of virus' not just noro......either way, if she's that worried about contracting 'stomach flu', she shouldn't be checking in, standing in line for screening, waiting at a gate, dealing with tickets and hands, using any handrail, touching any seat, or door, or sink on an airplane, deplaning, picking up luggage, moving through crowds to bathroom...........and then flying back........
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| FirstFirewater - 2014-02-27 5:36 PM
Long story short my mom has the stomach flu or norovirus per her dr. but was not "tested" Since monday she's had symptoms and I live with her and have yet to get sick- as I'm aware 24-48hrs is the incubation time.
I am to leave for FL on Mon. with non refunable tix traveling with my prego best friend- My drs office thinks its fine as I show no symptoms and have been keeping good hygiene.
Her dr.'s office told her its a horrible idea and the virus particles are shed 2 weeks after and I could have it although I'm not having any symptoms. My issue here is I will be losing out on $400 worth of tix for something I Do Not have please help me I'm literally in tears and fighting with my germophobe best friend. I understand shes 34 weeks prego and concerned but I'm not sure its quite as deadly as shes thinking?
With the norovirus, I would like to see the research her doctor is referring to, as a nurse one must only be 48 hours symptom free before returning to work |
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | This is what she texted me after she spoke with the nurse.
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Location: ND | FirstFirewater - 2014-02-27 6:13 PM This is what she texted me after she spoke with the nurse. you've already learned enough of what you need to know on this thread to make your decision .......
as such, no matter what the retarded OB office says, you are not in a serious medical pickle....only a crazy pregnant friend pickle...
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | Thank you all so very much for helping me not to feel so bad unfortunately I'm still going and it may not be enjoyable but oh well. I spent the money I better catch some UV rays... It's sincerely scary how pregnancy can make you so crazy  |
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Location: Texas | I don't get it. She's worried about you getting her sick, but she is going to walk through an airport and get on a plane with several other people? My old boss didn't call the air control things on planes pneumonia nozzles for nothing.
Wash your hands, stay a few feet from her and go have fun! |
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Location: Memphis, TN | Heck tell her not to go if she's that worried about germs. Sounds to me like she needs to lock herself in a room with a can of Lysol and bottle of hand sanitizer for the next 4-5 weeks. I'm sure it's mostly stemming from hormones This far into it she's mentally and emotionally preparing to be a protective momma. Just bring her back down to reality with the risk she is taking in general traveling. Also the big reason doctors consider stomach bugs dangerous is the dehydration from getting sick. It's not necessarily the bug itself from what I understand. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | If she is so paranoid she shouldn't have planned this vacation period. If anyone stays home it should be her. |
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | I tried to tell her since she got insurance on her flight not knowing if she was able to go being so far along she should stay but she wont cancel because we are afterall going to her parents home lol! They are like family to me I guess I'm just going to plan on going until her parents say I'm not welcome? |
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | Stride - 2014-02-27 6:57 PM I don't get it. She's worried about you getting her sick, but she is going to walk through an airport and get on a plane with several other people? My old boss didn't call the air control things on planes pneumonia nozzles for nothing.
Wash your hands, stay a few feet from her and go have fun!
Yep shes worried about me because her doctor told her I probably already have it although I have absolutely NO symptoms! |
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Location: ND | FirstFirewater - 2014-02-27 7:04 PM Stride - 2014-02-27 6:57 PM I don't get it. She's worried about you getting her sick, but she is going to walk through an airport and get on a plane with several other people? My old boss didn't call the air control things on planes pneumonia nozzles for nothing.
Wash your hands, stay a few feet from her and go have fun! Yep shes worried about me because her doctor told her I probably already have it although I have absolutely NO symptoms!
bring along some fake vomit for the flight....... |
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Location: Right Where I'm Meant To Be :) | Oh hockey sticks! When I was that pregnant with my first son, I flew to Chicago to be in an Oprah taping (before she was pro-obama). Rode in a crazy cabs and walked numerous blocks. Germs were the last thing I was worried about, I had better things to enjoy like Bon Jovi AND Matthew McConaughey being there!!!! Germs sherms/ pregnant schmegnant, you only live once!! Tell your friend to stay home, if she's that worried she's not gonna be any fun anyways :) |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | dhdqhllc - 2014-02-27 6:07 PM
'stomache flu' can be from a variety of virus' not just noro......either way, if she's that worried about contracting 'stomach flu', she shouldn't be checking in, standing in line for screening, waiting at a gate, dealing with tickets and hands, using any handrail, touching any seat, or door, or sink on an airplane, deplaning, picking up luggage, moving through crowds to bathroom...........and then flying back........
i think you see my point.........
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | FirstFirewater - 2014-02-27 7:04 PM
Stride - 2014-02-27 6:57 PM I don't get it. She's worried about you getting her sick, but she is going to walk through an airport and get on a plane with several other people? My old boss didn't call the air control things on planes pneumonia nozzles for nothing.
Wash your hands, stay a few feet from her and go have fun!
Yep shes worried about me because her doctor told her I probably already have it although I have absolutely NO symptoms!
Her doc's comment was a little sloppy, in my opinion. |
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | HotbearLVR - 2014-02-27 7:37 PM
FirstFirewater - 2014-02-27 7:04 PM
Stride - 2014-02-27 6:57 PM I don't get it. She's worried about you getting her sick, but she is going to walk through an airport and get on a plane with several other people? My old boss didn't call the air control things on planes pneumonia nozzles for nothing.
Wash your hands, stay a few feet from her and go have fun!
Yep shes worried about me because her doctor told her I probably already have it although I have absolutely NO symptoms!
Her doc's comment was a little sloppy, in my opinion.
I agree her dr.also Didn't explain how the virus is shed she just said how badly it's shed. Her husband just called me saying she's just as upset as me and he hates us fighting he said she wants me to try and get insurance which they won't give me when my flights on Monday. |
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Location: minnesota | Tell her to wash her hands! Hands down number one way to prevent the spread of germs.
It really is just that simple. Ever wonder why nurses spend hours upon hours around sick people and never get sick.... We wash our hands, a lot. :) |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | FirstFirewater - 2014-02-27 7:51 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-02-27 7:37 PM FirstFirewater - 2014-02-27 7:04 PM Stride - 2014-02-27 6:57 PM I don't get it. She's worried about you getting her sick, but she is going to walk through an airport and get on a plane with several other people? My old boss didn't call the air control things on planes pneumonia nozzles for nothing.
Wash your hands, stay a few feet from her and go have fun! Yep shes worried about me because her doctor told her I probably already have it although I have absolutely NO symptoms! Her doc's comment was a little sloppy, in my opinion. I agree her dr.also Didn't explain how the virus is shed she just said how badly it's shed. Her husband just called me saying she's just as upset as me and he hates us fighting he said she wants me to try and get insurance which they won't give me when my flights on Monday.
You have four more days to make up your mind....If you are not showing any symptoms on Monday, I would hop on that flight. If you have symptoms by then you won't WANT to get on the flight. She has just as much chance of catching something from the hundreds of OTHER people she will be around. I think she is being a little selfish. |
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Location: Kansas | dhdqhllc - 2014-02-27 6:39 PM
FirstFirewater - 2014-02-27 6:13 PM This is what she texted me after she spoke with the nurse. you've already learned enough of what you need to know on this thread to make your decision .......
as such, no matter what the retarded OB office says, you are not in a serious medical pickle....only a crazy pregnant friend pickle...
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | My kids and I had the nasty one before Christmas, and it lingered for about a week after the puking stopped. My husband never got it because he washed the crap out of his hands, and I washed mine before preparing food. Contact doesn't make it inevitable. |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Oh Good Grief!
Your friend is just not thinking clearly. There are far worse things she can catch touching any one thing on that trip. That aside...
Maybe you can get your seat changed on the plane if she is that worried. Let her end up sitting next to some snotty germ infested stranger that likes to touch pregnant ladies bellies...that ought to make her more comfortable!  |
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Location: ND | TrailGirl - 2014-02-28 8:23 AM Oh Good Grief!
Your friend is just not thinking clearly. There are far worse things she can catch touching any one thing on that trip. That aside...
Maybe you can get your seat changed on the plane if she is that worried. Let her end up sitting next to some snotty germ infested stranger that likes to touch pregnant ladies bellies...that ought to make her more comfortable!
tip the flight attendant a benjamin or two to sit her in between two out of control children....both ways.... |
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| Three 4 Luck - 2014-02-28 6:28 AM
My kids and I had the nasty one before Christmas, and it lingered for about a week after the puking stopped. My husband never got it because he washed the crap out of his hands, and I washed mine before preparing food. Contact doesn't make it inevitable.
If it was the norovirus, from puking and diarrhea, the spores can grave up to 3 feet away, you may have caught it that way.
Also the best way to prevent the spread is hand washing with normal soap for at least 30 seconds then alcohol sanitizer. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | cheryl makofka - 2014-02-28 9:37 AM
Three 4 Luck - 2014-02-28 6:28 AM
My kids and I had the nasty one before Christmas, and it lingered for about a week after the puking stopped. My husband never got it because he washed the crap out of his hands, and I washed mine before preparing food. Contact doesn't make it inevitable.
If it was the norovirus, from puking and diarrhea, the spores can grave up to 3 feet away, you may have caught it that way.
Also the best way to prevent the spread is hand washing with normal soap for at least 30 seconds then alcohol sanitizer.
Oh yeah, mama is always on the front lines when kid puke is involved. LOL. The bad part was I took my daughter to the dr for a UTI and she started puking in the waiting room. She had to get a shot in the butt since she obviously wasn't going to keep meds down and we exposed a bunch of poor innocents to her cooties. |
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| hmmmmm I think you should text your friend and tell her you're doing her a big favor and watching out for her safety by cancelling her tickets... send her an article about how dangerous germs float around in the ventilation systems in the jets...then go enjoy yourself and see if you can get another friend to go. Lots of times tickets aren't refundable, but the cost of them (minus some charges) can be credited toward another flight within a year.
well I guess I'm being a little brat huh? ha ha.
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | I just cancelled my returning flight for a 85 dollar fee abd one bag so out of 300 bucks I'm getting 53 back in credit. My friend thinks I'm a selfish person who doesn't care about her I've never questioned our friendship before until now... |
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| I am sorry that your friend is doing this to you. I am guessing this is her first, and I thought doctors and air travel frown upon women travelling in their last trimester.
Also the norovirus will not cause harm to the fetus, but measles, and chicken pox can cause fetal demise, and I know we have had 2 measles outbreaks already this year.
I think your friend just has pregnancy brain.
I still think you should go, just don't sit beside her, and you have fun on your trip. |
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Location: Sperry, OK | Maybe you should ask your friend to reimburse you for your lost monies, since she is being a dipsh!t. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | FirstFirewater - 2014-02-28 1:29 PM I just cancelled my returning flight for a 85 dollar fee abd one bag so out of 300 bucks I'm getting 53 back in credit. My friend thinks I'm a selfish person who doesn't care about her I've never questioned our friendship before until now...
I am confused........why did you just cancel the "return" flight?
I would tell your friend that IF you cancel for HER health, SHE can pay you what you are out....I don't think she is much of a "friend"........ |
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | with the airline we used the flights are separately priced. She won't reimburse me she didn't even buy her tickets someone did for her. It's a done deal that I'm not going. I told her I am just sick of fighting and want to move past this. Told her she should appreciate me doing this she then said she did but I'm not sure how sincere that was I'm just realizing she's very selfish yet I love her to pieces we are normally inseparable friends |
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | illlookup - 2014-02-28 9:46 AM
hmmmmm I think you should text your friend and tell her you're doing her a big favor and watching out for her safety by cancelling her tickets... send her an article about how dangerous germs float around in the ventilation systems in the jets...then go enjoy yourself and see if you can get another friend to go. Lots of times tickets aren't refundable, but the cost of them (minus some charges) can be credited toward another flight within a year.
well I guess I'm being a little brat huh? ha ha.
unfortunately it's her second but she is a dramatic person in general |
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Location: ND | not much of a friend, imo...... |
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Location: ND--it snows, it floods, it snows, it floods | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-02-28 2:19 PM Maybe you should ask your friend to reimburse you for your lost monies, since she is being a dipsh!t.
That was my thought... |
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Location: ND--it snows, it floods, it snows, it floods | I would start distancing myself from said "friend" because you know she really doesn't care about your thoughts or feelings. Sorry she sounds spoiled and selfish in my mind. |
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Location: The edge of no where | Your friend is an idiot......... airports, schools, taxis..all fabulous places to catch germs.
If she thinks no one is sick in those places, she's crazy. |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | So now your "friend" will be traveling alone in her third trimester. Her choice. I'm sorry it turned out this way. But...there will be other trips. Just don't plan them with her.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | docschic - 2014-02-28 2:41 PM I would start distancing myself from said "friend" because you know she really doesn't care about your thoughts or feelings. Sorry she sounds spoiled and selfish in my mind.
^^^^ THIS........You really need to take a hard look at this "friendship". |
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| So sorry your friend is so self centered and will not even reimburse you for the money. I would still go, and stay somewhere else.
And you both could wear masks! Her especially, since is she is so worried.
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Location: Oklahoma | That is true. You can be non symptomatic with Norovirus and "shed" the virus unknowingly and get others sick.
Even those that have been sick and appear to be over the virus, can shed the virus for 2 weeks after they feel well.
It only takes about 18 virus particles to become ill with Norovirus.
If you are well on Monday, you should go. Continue to practice your good hygiene and enjoy your trip.
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Location: Oklahoma | cheryl makofka - 2014-02-27 6:07 PM FirstFirewater - 2014-02-27 5:36 PM Long story short my mom has the stomach flu or norovirus per her dr. but was not "tested" Since monday she's had symptoms and I live with her and have yet to get sick- as I'm aware 24-48hrs is the incubation time.
I am to leave for FL on Mon. with non refunable tix traveling with my prego best friend- My drs office thinks its fine as I show no symptoms and have been keeping good hygiene.
Her dr.'s office told her its a horrible idea and the virus particles are shed 2 weeks after and I could have it although I'm not having any symptoms. My issue here is I will be losing out on $400 worth of tix for something I Do Not have please help me I'm literally in tears and fighting with my germophobe best friend. I understand shes 34 weeks prego and concerned but I'm not sure its quite as deadly as shes thinking? With the norovirus, I would like to see the research her doctor is referring to, as a nurse one must only be 48 hours symptom free before returning to work
This information that the OP stated is straight from the CDC. |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | http://www.cdc.gov/norovirus/about/transmission.html
roanrobey - 2014-02-28 10:43 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-02-27 6:07 PM FirstFirewater - 2014-02-27 5:36 PM Long story short my mom has the stomach flu or norovirus per her dr. but was not "tested" Since monday she's had symptoms and I live with her and have yet to get sick- as I'm aware 24-48hrs is the incubation time.
I am to leave for FL on Mon. with non refunable tix traveling with my prego best friend- My drs office thinks its fine as I show no symptoms and have been keeping good hygiene.
Her dr.'s office told her its a horrible idea and the virus particles are shed 2 weeks after and I could have it although I'm not having any symptoms. My issue here is I will be losing out on $400 worth of tix for something I Do Not have please help me I'm literally in tears and fighting with my germophobe best friend. I understand shes 34 weeks prego and concerned but I'm not sure its quite as deadly as shes thinking? With the norovirus, I would like to see the research her doctor is referring to, as a nurse one must only be 48 hours symptom free before returning to work ~~Norovirus can be found in your stool (feces) even before you start feeling sick. The virus can stay in your stool for 2 weeks or more after you feel better. You are most contagious
•when you are sick with norovirus illness, and
•during the first 3 days after you recover from norovirus illness. I think you are reading MUCH more into the information by the CDC...........the virus can be shed through YOUR STOOL up to 2 weeks....If a person practices good hygiene, they would NOT spread it that long......See the link above.......
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Location: Central Montana | docschic - 2014-02-28 1:41 PM I would start distancing myself from said "friend" because you know she really doesn't care about your thoughts or feelings. Sorry she sounds spoiled and selfish in my mind.
I would agree with the above.
Sorry you canceled your ticket. If it had been me I wouldn't have done it and would have just booked myself into a hotel for the trip.
I fly a few times a year and get sick every single time with a nasty sinus infection. I haven't quite figured out how to avoid it. I would love to be able to fly and wear a surgical mask to try to keep from getting sick but I'm afraid it would freak out the other people.
Your friend is taking a huge chance just getting on the plane, there is no telling what health issues the other passengers are dealing with. |
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