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Location: Southern OK aka God's Country | I was wondering if anyone has had any experience with arthritis that started in their 30's? I am in my early 30's and have been noticing that certain tasks are becoming more difficult and even painful, usually things that involve grasping for extended periods of time. Gripping the reins for long periods is one thing that tends to trigger it, but the worst is peeling potatoes--that has become more and more difficult and now I almost dread it. It's not a sharp pain, just more of a stiff, dull discomfort in the knuckles across the top of my hands. I do experience a very sharp pain in the knuckle above my pointer finger at times when I grasp something with it. This has all started becoming an issue in the last year or so.
Is this arthritis? Has anyone else had it start this early? And did anything you do or take lessen the progression of it? I don't want to have useless hands by the time I'm 50. |
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| It sounds like arthritis. I would see a doctor about it. I don't have arthritis in my hands, but I have it in my spine, from horse injuries. The biggest thing I can tell you is to keep moving as much as possible, it helps keep things loose. A doc can prescribe meds to help. I might also add a glucosamine supplement to my diet. |
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Location: Southern OK aka God's Country | Thanks I'll look into that. I figured with as many ladies on here there would be a few with some experience with it. . . It seems like it is more prevalent in women, or maybe that's just been my experience. I know my mom and my grandmother both have arthritis but I'm not sure they had trouble with it in their 30's. |
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| I started having problems in my mid 20's with gripping items for a lond period of time. With barrel reins i dont have too much of a problem beause i am very light and dont keep in a fist position when riding so it dont bother me then. But I dont peel potatoes anymore... we eat them with skin... fishing, scooping poop, and sometimes even driving seem to be my triggers. bascially anytime i'm gripping something for very long will do it. I dont have any answers for ya on how to help but i just try to avoid grasping anything very long. i will clean one stall then go do somehting else for awhile them do the next stall later so it gives my hands a break. I do have the back on track gloves and on the nights my hands are really bothering me they help sooth them. |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | I was diagnosed with Juvenile rumatiod arthritis when I was teens and I'm now 30. I was able to manage it with diet. I can tell you more about what I eat if you want to hear what works for me. So far the most I take for it is an Ibuprophen once in a blue moon.
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Location: Southern OK aka God's Country | Yes, I do want to hear what works in your diet! I wondered if some foods could help or hinder the progression. And I didn't know Back on Track made people products, so I will check into the gloves. |
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Location: Somewhere else | I have it in both knees due to playing sports all thru school and after..my knees are shot. They hurt so bad that 2000mg of ibufroen won't touch it. Finally went to the Ortho Dr & my left knee has no cartliage left in it, so it's bone on bone and the right one is going to. I have to have help to get on my horses that's how bad it is. Went this past week to the Ortho to get injections & he gave me a new med that has come out & it's helping so much. Now I can get back to the gym & working out.
Mine is arthritis and he said it won't ever get better but hopefully we can control the pain for a long time with the new meds |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | Well it was a bit of a long road and the reason I'm now a full time farmer. My first step was avoiding additives, preservatives and high fructose corn syrup. Then a friend recommend I try raw dairy, pasteurized diary makes my joints flair. SO that was my main change. I make sure my meat and eggs are from pastured animals. I avoid processed oils and live on butter, lard and coconut oil. I have also eliminated refined sugars and grains as they always lead to flairs for me. I have found I can tolerate a little bit of grains if they soaked, sours or sprouted but in moderation always. As far as veggies I grow my own so they are organic.
I also incorporate organ meat, and fermented foods into my diet as much as I can.
Everyone says it is a restrictive diet but I pretty much eat like a queen. I do use a lot of healthy fats and no so far it hasn’t led to any weight gain. I’ve actually lost 30lbs eating this way and I never feel deprived.
As far as supplements I’ve had good luck with cetyl-m, I currently take krill oil, Epicor, vitamin D, K and nattokinase and fermented cod liver and high vitamin butter oil. You can google them for more info. Also look up the Weston A Price foundation. This is where I learned about eating real food. At 17 I was ready to give up on horses because of the pain I had. Today it is just a dark memory. |
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Location: Southern OK aka God's Country | I have actually started trying to be more aware of what I'm eating, which was why I was really curious as to what food decisions you were making for your arthritis. For instance, I had no idea that Griffin's and other syrups are actually not maple syrup until like a year ago (that is sad, but true). They are actually corn syrup and a bunch of other "stuff." I was even more surprised to see how expensive real, organic maple syrup is. It's no wonder people buy bad food--it's so much cheaper! Same thing with creamers--they don't have any cream in them. They are all syrups of various kinds. So I started buying the Simple creamer and it is milk, sugar and cream. I can pronounce everything on the ingredients list. I try to use only unsalted butter and no longer buy margerine of any kind.
We have a dairy that sells unprocessed milk but it's about an hour drive. I bought some a few months ago, but I did a lot of research and while I had no problem with it myself, I was really scared to give it to my young child because of the risk of foodborne illnesses. While the risk may have been small, it was enough to scare me into not giving it to him. If it were readily available, I would buy it for myself and keep giving him the pasteurized milk until he's older. I do get eggs from my mom's chickens or our neighbors and I try to buy cage-free chicken. Our beef is from a calf that our friends butchered, so I know how it was raised and treated.
We do have a great health food cafe and store here and they are very helpful, so I will go by and see what they recommend for supplements. Unfortunately they are vegan and don't carry any meat or cheese products. |
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Location: North Dakota | When I went through puberty around the age of 13, when my period started I developed arthritis in my knees and shoulders. Now that I am 40 I almost drag my feet trying to walk some days. For whatever reason my body attacked my joints when I started growing up. Go to a DR. and make sure they do ALL they can to diagnose you 100%. I am sorry you have developed this problem and I wish you all the best. |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | I have to order my supplements online. As far as Raw Milk safety my best advice is to know your farmer. My diary cows are 100% grass fed and we follow very strict guidlines for cleanliness and test our milk regularly for pathogenic bacteria. I used to drive two hours everyweek to get my milk before I bought my cows. My nephews have been drinking raw milk since they could hold a cup and never been sick from it. My oldest one has bad ezema that totally clears up when he is with me for the summer due to our diet here. I've also caught them out with the cows milking them into their hands and drinking it. I about had a heart attack that day Lol not because they were drinking the milk from the cow before she had been cleaned but because they were out with her loose in the pasture.
Also to make it more affordable you can look in to a local CSA program to get local grass fed meat and veggies at a more reasonable price. |
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Location: Southern OK aka God's Country | equussynergy - 2014-03-05 9:41 AM
I have to order my supplements online. As far as Raw Milk safety my best advice is to know your farmer. My diary cows are 100% grass fed and we follow very strict guidlines for cleanliness and test our milk regularly for pathogenic bacteria. I used to drive two hours everyweek to get my milk before I bought my cows. My nephews have been drinking raw milk since they could hold a cup and never been sick from it. My oldest one has bad ezema that totally clears up when he is with me for the summer due to our diet here. I've also caught them out with the cows milking them into their hands and drinking it. I about had a heart attack that day Lol not because they were drinking the milk from the cow before she had been cleaned but because they were out with her loose in the pasture.
Also to make it more affordable you can look in to a local CSA program to get local grass fed meat and veggies at a more reasonable price.
My son has eczema and allergies, and that was actually the reason I looked at the raw milk in the first place. I just talked myself out of it! If I were like you and had dairy cows, I would have no problem with it at all. We do have a farmer's market here on Wednesday and Saturday spring-fall, so I can hit that up for veggies once they get started again. Thanks for all your info. |
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| Research antinflamtory foods. It may not cure it, but it will help. If yours is not burning, you don't know what your missing. Keeping moving is critical. |
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| If there is anything specific you've eliminated from your diet that helps?
My knees kill. Especially at the gym, I can't do lunges at all.
I will say do good research about production agriculture please. Look at both sides of the issue before you make a decision. I have no problem with people who choose to eat organic, or non-GMO, or cage free etc IF they've researched both sides. Cage free hens are raised in the same buildings that caged hens are, with the same lack of access to sun/outside etc. cage free is not free range, but the media machine has led many people who haven't done their research to paint a picture of free range when they hear cage free.
We eat a mix of all, based on a healthy diet with few processed foods and price. |
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Location: The end of the Earth, SE AR | dakota88 - 2014-03-05 8:50 AM I have it in both knees due to playing sports all thru school and after..my knees are shot. They hurt so bad that 2000mg of ibufroen won't touch it. Finally went to the Ortho Dr & my left knee has no cartliage left in it, so it's bone on bone and the right one is going to. I have to have help to get on my horses that's how bad it is. Went this past week to the Ortho to get injections & he gave me a new med that has come out & it's helping so much. Now I can get back to the gym & working out.
Mine is arthritis and he said it won't ever get better but hopefully we can control the pain for a long time with the new meds
What is the new med you are on?
My husband was diagnosted with osteoarthritis when he was in his 20s and has had 3 knee replacements. He has bone spurs on almost every bone in his body and he's in his mid 60s now. |
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| I was diagnosed with arthritis in my back when I was 23-24 (I'm 26 now). I've noticed a huge difference when I take any kind of joint pill (msm, glucosamine, or chondritin). Smooth run makes a human joint supplement that I LOVE! |
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Location: Southern OK aka God's Country | OhMax - 2014-03-05 10:28 AM
If there is anything specific you've eliminated from your diet that helps?
My knees kill. Especially at the gym, I can't do lunges at all.
I will say do good research about production agriculture please. Look at both sides of the issue before you make a decision. I have no problem with people who choose to eat organic, or non-GMO, or cage free etc IF they've researched both sides. Cage free hens are raised in the same buildings that caged hens are, with the same lack of access to sun/outside etc. cage free is not free range, but the media machine has led many people who haven't done their research to paint a picture of free range when they hear cage free.
We eat a mix of all, based on a healthy diet with few processed foods and price.
You are right, I make the mistake sometimes of assuming cage-free and free range are the same thing and mean super happy chickens until their day to go. I wish that I had the stomach and the heart to raise and process our own animals, especially chickens and pork, but I don't see that happening. We do eat a lot of deer and wild turkey, and I am curious about elk and buffalo but have not tried any. I think cutting a lot of the sugar out that I eat would be a good step but I so love cookies and brownies and cake . . . they are my weakness. |
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| I have arthritic changes in most of the joints in my hands, some worse than others, my shoulders and elbows, one hip, both knees, both feet, one ankle, an probably the second ankle after a break last fall.
I'm TERRIBLE with eating right for it, so I just try to keep moving. I limit my Aleve to 2 a week (Saturday night is pain-free night!), and as needed for horse shows. I start every day by walking thru the house and heading outside to feed and do morning chores. Do not stop - no time to chit chat! After that if I find that I'm sitting in a chair for over an hour solid I will become somewhat stuck, so I'll take a walkabout. It's really tough since I broke my 'good' foot/ankle last September because I need to stay off it to heal.
My changes were first x-rayed when I was in my late 20's (elbow, knee and hip), and then the other elbow, shoulders, other knee, feet and hands went by 38 or so. Since then, these past 13 years or so, I've only noticed another joint or two in my fingers (little finger on left hand?) getting worse. My knees scream when I ride a lot, but this winter I have -0- knee pain since I haven't ridden forever. I found the trigger motions that flared each area and learned new motions which helped tons. I DO NOT carry water buckets! That took care of most of my elbow and shoulder pain. I also don't pitch the fork much, also elbows and shoulders.
I know I would probably be much better if I ate a better diet. Someday I may have to pay attention to continue to ride and feed and move about somewhat freely. |
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Location: Southern OK aka God's Country | lonely va barrelxr - 2014-03-05 12:02 PM
I have arthritic changes in most of the joints in my hands, some worse than others, my shoulders and elbows, one hip, both knees, both feet, one ankle, an probably the second ankle after a break last fall.
I'm TERRIBLE with eating right for it, so I just try to keep moving. I limit my Aleve to 2 a week (Saturday night is pain-free night!), and as needed for horse shows. I start every day by walking thru the house and heading outside to feed and do morning chores. Do not stop - no time to chit chat! After that if I find that I'm sitting in a chair for over an hour solid I will become somewhat stuck, so I'll take a walkabout. It's really tough since I broke my 'good' foot/ankle last September because I need to stay off it to heal.
My changes were first x-rayed when I was in my late 20's (elbow, knee and hip), and then the other elbow, shoulders, other knee, feet and hands went by 38 or so. Since then, these past 13 years or so, I've only noticed another joint or two in my fingers (little finger on left hand?) getting worse. My knees scream when I ride a lot, but this winter I have -0- knee pain since I haven't ridden forever. I found the trigger motions that flared each area and learned new motions which helped tons. I DO NOT carry water buckets! That took care of most of my elbow and shoulder pain. I also don't pitch the fork much, also elbows and shoulders.
I know I would probably be much better if I ate a better diet. Someday I may have to pay attention to continue to ride and feed and move about somewhat freely.
Not looking forward to it spreading to other joints! Luckily (I guess) my hands and fingers are the only thing that are affected at this point, but I do notice more stiffness now than when I was younger in general. Unfortunately I work in an office and sit on my rear for 9 hours a day, which somewhat limits my mobility. I suspect typing all day has contributed to the effect on my hands. My left knee will start hurting when I ride for long periods, but I don't think I ever attributed that to an arthritic process--I guess it is possible that it is. I always thought it was my stirrup angle and being out of shape. |
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Location: Oologah, Oklahoma | I am 31 and going through this same exact thing. It started about a month ago in fingers (not thumb though) of my right hand across the knuckles. A dull, sharp pain, stiffness, heat, and swelling. Aleve seems to help a TINY bit, but I'm going to have a doctor look at it next Monday. Seems like the onset of osteoarthritis. I'll post on this thread after my appointment if you'd like to know what I find out. Not fun!!! |
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Location: Southern OK aka God's Country | GypsyQueen - 2014-03-05 1:57 PM
I am 31 and going through this same exact thing. It started about a month ago in fingers (not thumb though) of my right hand across the knuckles. A dull, sharp pain, stiffness, heat, and swelling. Aleve seems to help a TINY bit, but I'm going to have a doctor look at it next Monday. Seems like the onset of osteoarthritis. I'll post on this thread after my appointment if you'd like to know what I find out. Not fun!!!
Yes, please do!! I am very curious. I usually won't go until I feel like I'm dying for something, so I would like to know what they say to someone smart enough to actually go lol. . .
When you (and others) say burning, do you mean like a sudden sharp burn or a prolonged burn? My pointer finger knuckle burns when I grasp things sometimes, but it's a sudden sharp burn, almost like I've been shocked. It's like the nerve gets caught on something. . . It's very painful! |
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Location: Oologah, Oklahoma | The burning for me occurs at the end of the day when my hands are resting after I've used my fingers a lot (I type 9 hours a day). It's more like a burning sensation. This whole thing has gotten very annoying. My index finger is the worst and that's the one I use to scroll with the wheel on my mouse and it hurts all the time now. |
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Location: Oologah, Oklahoma | Are your fingers swollen as well? |
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Location: Southern OK aka God's Country | GypsyQueen - 2014-03-05 2:17 PM
Are your fingers swollen as well?
My fingers swell on and off through the day period, so it's hard to tell when they're truly swollen unless I take my ring on and off, which I usually don't. I type all day too, so I actually wondered if some of these symptoms could be related to carpal tunnel, but I haven't really sat down and looked into all that. Since arthritis runs in my family, I suspected it first, but I honestly wasn't sure how they would even diagnose it. So let me know what they do to you. I am terrified of needles, so that is another reason I stay away from the doctor. The risk of an incidental shot is enough to make me rough out most illnessess. |
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Location: Oologah, Oklahoma | I will definitely let you know! I have a feeling he'll diagnose it and put me on meds but hopefully he will x-ray first or refer me to a specialist; I'd like the progress to be stopped if possible. |
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| yes yes yes i was told in late 30 i had a lot of arthritis in my neck. i was told by drs that that is probably why i am in a wheelchair today ny c5c6c7 cracked
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Location: Too far from home | Gypsy, this sounds like it could be rheumatoid arthritis. I was diagnosed at 32 and had the same type of symptoms.
In general, I've found my best relief from meds, though I've started on a modified paleo diet (only modified because I'm not dedicated enough) as there's quite a bit of research that it is helpful for many forms of autoimmune illnesses. No one would ever guess there's anything wrong with me now, but I've had a couple nasty flare-ups. I feel great, but am still on 2 meds (methotrexate and enbril).
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Location: Where humidity does wonders for hair! | I am like dakota88. I am 55yrs old and in constant pain in my knees and lower back. had ruptured disc 20 yrs ago and the shot they gave me didn't work. Sure didn't have time or $$$ for back surgery. Just lived with it. But my KNEES are the WORST. Kinda afraid to go to Dr. Nothing (meds over counter) helps. I have always been active and have did mostly a mans job. I now have to have bucket to get on my 14.3 hand horse. I hate having anyone see me get on my horse. I work at couple cattle auctions at least 15 hour days and boy howdy let me tell ya the next day I cant walk I am so sore. OLD AGE creeping up on me or my job. Hopefully one of these days can get it fixed. Cant imagine having it in your 20's. Thats way to young to be feeling old. |
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| First i would start with a vit d blood test if your vit d3 is low it will make you hurt, also you need blood work for inflammatory markers you crp and you esr. If they are high you might have the precursor to ra. If you have high inflammatory marker then you need to find a rheumatalogist.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I am in my early 30's too and have had that same thing in my hands for a good 5+ years. It runs in my family too, both grandparents and my dad. Try not to let your hands get too cold, good gloves if you live in a cold climate. That really triggers mine. I do vitamins, but may need to get something specific for arthritis soon. |
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| For those of u with knee issues when riding... Has anyone tried any slanted stirrups that help with the pain? |
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Location: Southern OK aka God's Country | Kgirl - 2014-03-05 8:32 PM
For those of u with knee issues when riding... Has anyone tried any slanted stirrups that help with the pain?
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Location: Southern OK aka God's Country | wyoming barrel racer - 2014-03-05 8:31 PM
I am in my early 30's too and have had that same thing in my hands for a good 5+ years. It runs in my family too, both grandparents and my dad. Try not to let your hands get too cold, good gloves if you live in a cold climate. That really triggers mine. I do vitamins, but may need to get something specific for arthritis soon.
Our climate is usually not cold but this year it's been brutal, and the last few months it seems have really bothered me. So the cold may be making it more noticeable. |
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| My sister got it when she was 12 she's now 58 and it bothers her a lot and about every 10 years or so she has surgery on her feet and hands .I think she gets around good she rides bikes and walks a lot.
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| I am 32 and have a lot of pain in my lower back, right above my butt. It hurts all day every day and hurts to ride. My chiro said I have 2 closed vertebrae in my spine but after numerous trips to the chiro it wasn't getting any better and the $'s were adding up quickly so I quit going. I really do need to try a joint supplement and lose weight and focus on moving more. This winter has been miserable weather-wise and I can definitely tell my pain is worse when I'm stuck inside all day. |
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| I'm 30 and recently went to a rheumatologist because the pain in my hands/wrists is so severe - apparently I'm double-jointed, and that's the reason for all of my issues (knees, elbows, ankles, list goes on...). I've been putting doTerra deep blue on my hands/wrists at night, because after weekends of cuttings and barrel races, I can hardly use my hands at all. They also think I have osteoarthritis in my knee from a previous injury, and recommended an anti-inflammatory daily to keep the pain down (and injections if needed). I also suffer from celiac and IBS, so there isn't much in my diet that could be changed based on how I eat already. I've had all kinds of bloodwork done because I tested positive for another autoimmune disease along the rheumatology lines, but they can't pin anything down at this point. Kind of defeating, being so young and having these issues just seems wrong! I hope you find relief...the doTerra is kind of a saving grace for me right now! |
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Location: Oologah, Oklahoma | crazy&lazy - 2014-03-05 8:00 PM
Gypsy, this sounds like it could be rheumatoid arthritis. I was diagnosed at 32 and had the same type of symptoms.
In general, I've found my best relief from meds, though I've started on a modified paleo diet (only modified because I'm not dedicated enough) as there's quite a bit of research that it is helpful for many forms of autoimmune illnesses. No one would ever guess there's anything wrong with me now, but I've had a couple nasty flare-ups. I feel great, but am still on 2 meds (methotrexate and enbril).
Good luck!
Thank you for the info! Do you have any side effects from the meds? That's a big fear of mine! |
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Location: Too far from home | GypsyQueen - 2014-03-06 10:30 AM crazy&lazy - 2014-03-05 8:00 PM Gypsy, this sounds like it could be rheumatoid arthritis. I was diagnosed at 32 and had the same type of symptoms.
In general, I've found my best relief from meds, though I've started on a modified paleo diet (only modified because I'm not dedicated enough) as there's quite a bit of research that it is helpful for many forms of autoimmune illnesses. No one would ever guess there's anything wrong with me now, but I've had a couple nasty flare-ups. I feel great, but am still on 2 meds (methotrexate and enbril).
Good luck! Thank you for the info! Do you have any side effects from the meds? That's a big fear of mine!
Truthfully, I don't think I have any terrible side-effects from the medications, however, I have a gut of titanium - nothing bothers me. The small issues that may be related to the meds are nothing compared to having a full out rheumatoid flare. The shots (enbrel) hurt a little, but nothing that can't be dealt with. I highly recommend finding a good rheumatologist ( you may have to wait a really long time to get in with one) and would search your area to find the one most people recommend. I used one rheumatologist for several years and it was fine...until I had a flare and NEEDED him. Then I could hardly get an appointment. His nurse was awful and I finally found another doc that some other people recommended and went with him. He made some med switches and I straightened right up. I was so angry that I spent so much time in pain waiting on the other guy. Good luck! With the right medication, you will feel much, much better. |
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| SoonerLawyer - 2014-03-05 9:28 AM
I have actually started trying to be more aware of what I'm eating, which was why I was really curious as to what food decisions you were making for your arthritis. For instance, I had no idea that Griffin's and other syrups are actually not maple syrup until like a year ago (that is sad, but true). They are actually corn syrup and a bunch of other "stuff." I was even more surprised to see how expensive real, organic maple syrup is. It's no wonder people buy bad food--it's so much cheaper! Same thing with creamers--they don't have any cream in them. They are all syrups of various kinds. So I started buying the Simple creamer and it is milk, sugar and cream. I can pronounce everything on the ingredients list. I try to use only unsalted butter and no longer buy margerine of any kind.
We have a dairy that sells unprocessed milk but it's about an hour drive. I bought some a few months ago, but I did a lot of research and while I had no problem with it myself, I was really scared to give it to my young child because of the risk of foodborne illnesses. While the risk may have been small, it was enough to scare me into not giving it to him. If it were readily available, I would buy it for myself and keep giving him the pasteurized milk until he's older. I do get eggs from my mom's chickens or our neighbors and I try to buy cage-free chicken. Our beef is from a calf that our friends butchered, so I know how it was raised and treated.
We do have a great health food cafe and store here and they are very helpful, so I will go by and see what they recommend for supplements. Unfortunately they are vegan and don't carry any meat or cheese products.
I was having arthritic symptoms in all my joints a couple of years ago, thought I was getting rheumatoid arthritis or something, I could hardly turn a doorknob, my ankles would burn when I stood up, every joint in my body hurt. I am not a fan of taking drugs so i started researching triggers and allergies that cause RA. Dairy came up right away. I went off all dairy products and within a few days I felt like I could run to the top of the big mountain outside my house. I was a big yogurt and cheese eater. Now I eat very little dairy, once in awhile I will eat cheese if it's cooked on something, I use almond milk if I'm cooking and I use coconut milk in my coffee and tea. I haven't tried raw milk products, but maybe I will. |
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Location: Oologah, Oklahoma | I went to my GP yesterday and he drew blood to run tests for arthritis, waiting for those results and then he said he'll refer me to a rheumatologist. Fun, fun. Why did he even draw blood if he's referring me to a specialist? The specialist will have to do the same dang thing. Ugh. More money in his pocket I suppose. Meanwhile, my index finger is getting worse. Ouch! |
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Location: Southern OK aka God's Country | GypsyQueen - 2014-03-11 10:51 AM
I went to my GP yesterday and he drew blood to run tests for arthritis, waiting for those results and then he said he'll refer me to a rheumatologist. Fun, fun. Why did he even draw blood if he's referring me to a specialist? The specialist will have to do the same dang thing. Ugh. More money in his pocket I suppose. Meanwhile, my index finger is getting worse. Ouch!
Thanks for keeping me posted!! Please let me know how it comes out with the specialist! |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | THE FlamOxide is a great rheumatoid, bursitis and severe arthritis supplement you should try. This is what my mom takes and loves it. |
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Location: Oologah, Oklahoma | My lab work results came back positive for rheumatoid arthritis; they're setting me up with a specialist. I am not surprised at all. :-(
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Location: Southern OK aka God's Country | GypsyQueen - 2014-03-13 8:36 AM
My lab work results came back positive for rheumatoid arthritis; they're setting me up with a specialist. I am not surprised at all. :-(
Well at least you know now, but that stinks :( I need to go get tested I'm just scared to. . . |
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Location: Oologah, Oklahoma | You should still go get checked, the sooner the better! RA is a lot more serious than I thought and can affect other parts of your body such as organs, skin, and eyes. |
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| GypsyQueen - 2014-03-11 10:51 AM I went to my GP yesterday and he drew blood to run tests for arthritis, waiting for those results and then he said he'll refer me to a rheumatologist. Fun, fun. Why did he even draw blood if he's referring me to a specialist? The specialist will have to do the same dang thing. Ugh. More money in his pocket I suppose. Meanwhile, my index finger is getting worse. Ouch! The tests a rheumatologist runs will be more in depth than what the general practitioner will do. It will give the rheumatologist a base for evaluation and possible treatment to assist you until the futher test results he/she will do are completed. A positive rheumotoid arthritis factor test doesn't always mean an RA diagnosis. The rheumotologit will do more extensive autoimmune blood tests.
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Location: on airplane in some other country | i didnt read all the responses- but, did they do an ANA? rule out any type of lupus or autoimmune disorders. they can affect each joint individually. a rheumatologist is a great start. good luck for pain relief. |
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Location: relocated to Texas | SoonerLawyer - 2014-03-06 7:44 AM Yes, I do want to hear what works in your diet! I wondered if some foods could help or hinder the progression. And I didn't know Back on Track made people products, so I will check into the gloves.
My Dad had severe RA. I have been diagnosed with Lupus. Both are auto immune diseases. I think diet is the key to managing them. You can get meds, but then you have side effects from them. Long term use of some of them can cause major problems. I went on a gluten free diet and have had no problems since doing so. I would recommend this to anyone with any auto immune disorder. Google gluten free diet and you can get lots of info off the internet. Basically, nothing with wheat, barley or rye in it. Eat fresh foods, fruits, veggies and lean meats, not processed and no alcohol. |
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Location: relocated to Texas | GypsyQueen - 2014-03-14 7:36 AM My lab work results came back positive for rheumatoid arthritis; they're setting me up with a specialist. I am not surprised at all. :-(
RA cannot be cured, only managed. My Dad went through it for years, he had severe RA. The pain meds caused him stomach problems which got worse as he got older. I would suggest that you try to manage it yourself with diet, exercise and joint supplements if it is not that bad. See how that goes before taking a bunch of meds. A gluten free diet will help tremendously, but you have to stick to it. Most all of the meds have side effects so ask a lot of questions about anything they suggest you take, especially if you will be taking it long term. |
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| My sister has had rheumatoid arthritis since she was 12 she's now 60 and does pretty good she's had several surgeries on her hands and feet both which last about ten years but she stays active which is the best thing for it. |
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Didn't read all responses: stop vaccinating yourself, take out potatoes, tomatoes and dairy. Go gluten free if you can. Paleo diet has seen a LOT of people that are symptom free, but that is a fairly drastic diet change and hard to sustain IMO only. I would love to go Paleo but it's hard enough trying to be gluten free. I would remove all white stuff, flour, sugar, breads, etc.
Probiotics, vitamins, filtered water and don't underestimate sleep. My daughter has had JRA since she was 1 and it was triggered from her MMR shot. And if HotBear comes on here to argue with me about that, I dont' have that kinda time today. I was there, the specialist in Kansas City even told me not to ever vaccinate her again. This wasn't the first case she'd seen from vaccinations and she covered three states as RA peds specialists are few and far between, she used to fly to small towns in two states to see her patients. She was dedicated. We also moved from KS to CO and the weather differences have helped as well. |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | smiley - 2014-03-19 7:35 AM
Didn't read all responses: stop vaccinating yourself, take out potatoes, tomatoes and dairy. Go gluten free if you can. Paleo diet has seen a LOT of people that are symptom free, but that is a fairly drastic diet change and hard to sustain IMO only. I would love to go Paleo but it's hard enough trying to be gluten free. I would remove all white stuff, flour, sugar, breads, etc.
Probiotics, vitamins, filtered water and don't underestimate sleep. My daughter has had JRA since she was 1 and it was triggered from her MMR shot. And if HotBear comes on here to argue with me about that, I dont' have that kinda time today. I was there, the specialist in Kansas City even told me not to ever vaccinate her again. This wasn't the first case she'd seen from vaccinations and she covered three states as RA peds specialists are few and far between, she used to fly to small towns in two states to see her patients. She was dedicated. We also moved from KS to CO and the weather differences have helped as well. I had a terrible reaction to the MMR vaccine as well. My doctor told my mom to never give it to me again because the next reaction may be far worse. Growing up my legs and hands hurt all the time. but I thought It was normal because I never new any different. My mom figured out something was wrong when I could keep up with my class on all day field trips.
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| Those of you diagnosed with RA who are managing it with diet may I ask the severity of your condition? I know people with it who would not be able to get out of bed or function through the day without their medication. Two of them have had lots of surgeries on their joints. I am just wondering if or how diet would change things for them. As long as they've had it, I would assume if diet would control it for them, they would do it only & not use medication. I know a few of the girls just basically woke up one day unable to move. All I am talking about except one were diagnosed as teenagers. |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | sodapop - 2014-03-23 12:18 PM Those of you diagnosed with RA who are managing it with diet may I ask the severity of your condition? I know people with it who would not be able to get out of bed or function through the day without their medication. Two of them have had lots of surgeries on their joints. I am just wondering if or how diet would change things for them. As long as they've had it, I would assume if diet would control it for them, they would do it only & not use medication. I know a few of the girls just basically woke up one day unable to move. All I am talking about except one were diagnosed as teenagers. I had changes in my lower back and my hips at 17. They also said I had fusing in my lower back and would have to give up riding. Diet did me more good than anything the drs gave me. I live with very little pain these days and my joints don't swell anymore. I need to have a new set of x-rays to see how things are doing. You would be surprised how many people refuse to change their diet even it would help them.
eta: I remeber crying because it hurt to bad to hold the reins, and sitting crying in the barn or pasture from pain, total exhaustion, and no being able to finish stripping the stalls or moving our irrigation pipe.
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| equussynergy - 2014-03-23 1:24 PM sodapop - 2014-03-23 12:18 PM Those of you diagnosed with RA who are managing it with diet may I ask the severity of your condition? I know people with it who would not be able to get out of bed or function through the day without their medication. Two of them have had lots of surgeries on their joints. I am just wondering if or how diet would change things for them. As long as they've had it, I would assume if diet would control it for them, they would do it only & not use medication. I know a few of the girls just basically woke up one day unable to move. All I am talking about except one were diagnosed as teenagers. I had changes in my lower back and my hips at 17. They also said I had fusing in my lower back and would have to give up riding. Diet did me more good than anything the drs gave me. I live with very little pain these days and my joints don't swell anymore. I need to have a new set of x-rays to see how things are doing. You would be surprised how many people refuse to change their diet even it would help them.
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | sodapop - 2014-03-23 12:28 PM equussynergy - 2014-03-23 1:24 PM sodapop - 2014-03-23 12:18 PM Those of you diagnosed with RA who are managing it with diet may I ask the severity of your condition? I know people with it who would not be able to get out of bed or function through the day without their medication. Two of them have had lots of surgeries on their joints. I am just wondering if or how diet would change things for them. As long as they've had it, I would assume if diet would control it for them, they would do it only & not use medication. I know a few of the girls just basically woke up one day unable to move. All I am talking about except one were diagnosed as teenagers. I had changes in my lower back and my hips at 17. They also said I had fusing in my lower back and would have to give up riding. Diet did me more good than anything the drs gave me. I live with very little pain these days and my joints don't swell anymore. I need to have a new set of x-rays to see how things are doing. You would be surprised how many people refuse to change their diet even it would help them. Two of them I know eat very healthy, but take the medication. Don't know the others eating habits. They say the alternative far outweighs the risk since they are basically bed bound without the medication & functional with healthy diet and medication. I think it is a weekly shot one takes, but not sure if that is all. Don't know if the other takes a weekly or daily med.
"Healthy" is hard to define honestly. If you ask most Drs. about what I eat they will tell you I'm headed down the road for an early heart attack because I eat so much sataruated fat. The traditional "healthy diet left me over weight and with constant joint flares. It was a dark point in my life because I was doing things I thought would help my body and it felt like I was falling apart. |
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| I'd like to hear more comments from those of you who were helped by changing your diet. Examples of what to eat/not to eat? Also, how does cold weather v/s warm weather affect you? Being very active v/s not very active? Etc..... |
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| Used2B - 2014-03-24 9:02 AM I'd like to hear more comments from those of you who were helped by changing your diet. Examples of what to eat/not to eat? Also, how does cold weather v/s warm weather affect you? Being very active v/s not very active? Etc.....
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| I have ra and while diet might help,some people it has not changed my symptoms. I need to,change the meds i am on because they are not doing there job,as my hips are killing this week, next week something else. But i cant change meds until allergy season is over as i dont need to have a problem there. Rhuemy says rutixin is next, dont my trying if it makes me feel better. I think you cant use diet to augment regular meds. I am 55 and want tomride for another 10 years, to see me you would not kmow anything is wrong. |
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| sodapop - 2014-03-24 11:49 PM
Used2B - 2014-03-24 9:02 AM I'd like to hear more comments from those of you who were helped by changing your diet. Examples of what to eat/not to eat? Also, how does cold weather v/s warm weather affect you? Being very active v/s not very active? Etc.....
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Why, thank you! I'd like to know more about which foods trigger inflammation in some people and how cold weather affects them? I've noticed my nagging back pain is at its worst when its cold outside and especially if I don't stay VERY active. My body feels pretty good as long as I keep moving but when I sit down for even 30 minutes I stiffen right back up, ugh! |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | The cold really doesn't like me much. If its below 60 I really prefer to wear my coveralls.
Supplements I take, D3, K2, Krill oil, Epicor. I've also had good luck with cetyl myristoleate and Vaxamine. Vaxamine in a natural COX-2 inhibitor. http://www.eworldwire.com/pressreleases/12287
As far as things that I avoid, preservatives, MSG, highfructose corn syrup and pretty much all chemically processed sugars and salts, vegetable oils such as corn and soy, most grains, fast food anything.
What I do eat, grass fed and finished meats, pastured eggs, organ meats. I uses butter,cream, lard, coconut and olive oil. I eat lots of veggies and fruits. I do eat some grains these days but I handle them a lot better if they are sporuted, soaked or soured. I eat a lot of cultured foods, keifer, kombucha, saurkraut. I use raw sugars.
My joints do tell me if I'm eating the wrong foods.
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