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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | I'm just stirring the pot today... Does it bother anyone else when people say WHOA when queing the horse to turn the barrel? In my neck of the woods you could pick whatever word you'd like but Whoa and Hoe are words that que a STOP. So I constantly wonder what others think or just it just come flyin out of your mouth like whoa turn dang it! lol |
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| My horses are trained to check with a 'Hey!' I sometimes forget that word and they get 'Barrel!' LOL! But no, not 'whoa,' or 'hoe,' they are different commands. Maybe a 'whoa' in the alley, but not during the pattern. |
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| I say whoa on my young horses, and really I don't care what other people do or say to their horse as long as they are not abusing the horse |
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Location: Qld Australia | Whoa means STOP to all my horses. If you say Whoa to any of them you better mean it!!!
Easy means slow down., also some I hum to as they are too responsive to words. |
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Location: Alberta | Honestly people can do as they please- whoa means stop to my horses and a cluck or smooch means go, my body talks enough to my horse when we run I don't need to speak, except smooch :) |
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | Some seem to find it beneath them to worry about what others do or say- I'm just trying to discuss if you've noticed it, and if it ever irks you. Personally whoa/hoe is stop to my horses :) |
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| FirstFirewater - 2014-03-09 6:59 PM
Some seem to find it beneath them to worry about what others do or say- I'm just trying to discuss if you've noticed it, and if it ever irks you. Personally whoa/hoe is stop to my horses :)
I do find this comment to be rude.
I have to focus on my own horses, my own run, I don't need to be distracted with what someone else is doing. If I have a free moment after my run or while I am waiting, I would rather spend my time visiting with friends then tearing apart someone's run.
There are so many different ways to train a successful barrel horse, the only thing that matters is if the rider is having fun. |
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Location: rabbit run | WHOA YOU HO!!!
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | I'm one of the ones that dont worry about how others ride or train their horses, to busy with my own  |
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Location: the end of the rainbow | I would not buy a horse that had been taught that whoa or hoe meant to rate a barrel. I have never been able to teach or ride a good stop & I use my voice a lot. So I'm pretty sure I would eat dirt on a horse that thought whoa meant turn fast & run like hell. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | diggerdoo - 2014-03-09 7:27 PM
WHOA YOU HO!!!
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Location: ND | i think that using whoa/hoe to check a horse says a lot about someone's training if that's their method.....and that they don't figure there's much use for their horse other than barrels.... |
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Location: Qld Australia | dhdqhllc - 2014-03-10 11:43 AM i think that using whoa/hoe to check a horse says a lot about someone's training if that's their method.....and that they don't figure there's much use for their horse other than barrels....
I agree with you . . . but have you seen Marlene's videos? She practically YELLS it at them.
She does only train for barrel just like you say. |
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Location: Midwest | I say "here" to rate
I'm pretty sure it doesn't really do much as I mostly use my body to cue my horse to turn, but it makes me feel better to say something. LOL |
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Location: Texas | I say whoa. One of mine I would like her to think she needs to stop at the first because she can fly by it LOL.
Honestly, when I cue my horses to stop or transition down from any gate, it's a body positioning thing. I sit down, shift my weight back, and then apply bit pressure…saying anything is usually last.
and if you watch my videos.. I think they are already rating when I'm saying whoa.. so they probably have it covered without me LOL |
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| diggerdoo - 2014-03-09 7:27 PM
WHOA YOU HO!!!
That's exactly what I'm thinking since one of mine thinks that Ho is her name.
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| Sometimes I have a conversation with my horse during our runs! I'm sure people wonder what I'm jabbering about out there! But most of the time I don't really say anything. I have a free-running gelding that is blind in one eye, and if I feel like he's rolling a little too hard into the barrel I'll say easy. With my ratey/turny horse I better be smooching around the barrel to keep her moving, if I said whoa or easy she'd probably stop. |
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Location: in the ozone | cheryl makofka - 2014-03-09 6:18 PM
FirstFirewater - 2014-03-09 6:59 PM
Some seem to find it beneath them to worry about what others do or say- I'm just trying to discuss if you've noticed it, and if it ever irks you. Personally whoa/hoe is stop to my horses :)
I do find this comment to be rude.
I have to focus on my own horses, my own run, I don't need to be distracted with what someone else is doing. If I have a free moment after my run or while I am waiting, I would rather spend my time visiting with friends then tearing apart someone's run.
There are so many different ways to train a successful barrel horse, the only thing that matters is if the rider is having fun.
isn't this kind of like the pot calling the kettle black??
at any rate, if I "say" anything, it's "hey" or easy. |
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Location: where ever my L/Q trl is parked | Most of the time I'm to busy just trying to stay centered in my turns to say anything... but if I do I will say hey or easy for a rate usually after I sit and something nasty when I get whiplashed because I can't seem to get up and out of a turn. Then of course the run is so quick I'm thanking Jesus that we both had a safe run and I can run another day. |
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Location: Benton City, WA | dhdqhllc - 2014-03-09 5:43 PM i think that using whoa/hoe to check a horse says a lot about someone's training if that's their method.....and that they don't figure there's much use for their horse other than barrels....
I think that statement is absurd and judgemental. I do say whoa at the barrels, if I need more rate. I don't pull on a horse or check them for rate. I would rather use my body position and voice (if needed) to cue them. What exactly is wrong with that?
I do use my horses for things other than barrels, BTW. My horses aren't stupid- they know the difference when I say it at a barrel or riding around. And no I don't pull on them to stop either. When I say sit down and say whoa, It means get on your ass now. It works for me.
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| dhdqhllc - 2014-03-09 7:43 PM
i think that using whoa/hoe to check a horse says a lot about someone's training if that's their method.....and that they don't figure there's much use for their horse other than barrels....
Here is my philosophy
Reiners don't say whoa, they sit, the horse stops, how I was taught to stop a horse by a reining trainer was to sit first, then say whoa pick up the reins and back the horse to where you sat.
Therefore if you sit your horse should be stopping.
In barrels when trainers teach you to go to your rate point, and sit to teach the horse to rate. Most will get the rider to stop at the rate point to over emphasize the importance of rating. Most people when they stop will say whoa, at this rate point as they want their horse to stop (talking just starting a horse)
So how many people when starting a horse on barrels don't say whoa when stopping at the rate point?
Also going back to the reiners stop, shouldn't the horse be stopping when you sit for the turn if the horse is Reiner broke? What is the difference between sitting if that is how the horse learned to stop, or by saying whoa?
Horses are intelligent animals, with proper patterning whatever cues a person uses and however the horse was trained, the horse will figure out what the person is requiring of them in and out of the arena. |
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| Ran one horse that if you said woah he would stop. Hard. My horse now he doesn't care if you say anything or not he turns the same. |
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Location: Benton City, WA | I guess my thought would be that pulling and hanging on the horse to rate and turn is much more telling on the "training methods" than someone using whoa as a verbal cue.
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | slipperyslope - 2014-03-09 9:14 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-03-09 6:18 PM
FirstFirewater - 2014-03-09 6:59 PM
Some seem to find it beneath them to worry about what others do or say- I'm just trying to discuss if you've noticed it, and if it ever irks you. Personally whoa/hoe is stop to my horses :)
I do find this comment to be rude.
I have to focus on my own horses, my own run, I don't need to be distracted with what someone else is doing. If I have a free moment after my run or while I am waiting, I would rather spend my time visiting with friends then tearing apart someone's run.
There are so many different ways to train a successful barrel horse, the only thing that matters is if the rider is having fun.
isn't this kind of like the pot calling the kettle black??
at any rate, if I "say" anything, it's "hey" or easy.
couldn't have said it better myself. Although that's not why I posted |
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | LeterBuck - 2014-03-09 9:53 PM
Ran one horse that if you said woah he would stop. Hard. My horse now he doesn't care if you say anything or not he turns the same.
that's always my fear that if I said it my guy would stop so hard I'd fly by myself to third lol |
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Location: North MS | I admit- I say ho. Not even long enough to add an e to the end. Sometimes I'm called Santa Claus. I just say it for extra reinforcement. MIT for me than them. |
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Location: Benton City, WA | FirstFirewater - 2014-03-09 8:03 PM LeterBuck - 2014-03-09 9:53 PM Ran one horse that if you said woah he would stop. Hard. My horse now he doesn't care if you say anything or not he turns the same. that's always my fear that if I said it my guy would stop so hard I'd fly by myself to third lol
Yeah its not something that I would just go out and try during a run on a finished horse, thats for sure.
I train my own, so its just a part of the training, and slow work. If the horse gets really ratey, then clearly I'm not going to be saying whoa! |
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Location: Texas! | I have to agree with Cheryl...on the sit deep stop and sorry my horse doesn't stop when making a full out run and I sit too deep. He knows his job and that it's go time. Same if someone happens to says whoa during a run your horse is not going to think stop with all that momentum going but most likely OK time to slow this speed wagon down.
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Location: Central Montana | Hoe??? A hoe is a garden tool or a Ho is someone who stands on a corner. Seriously, why would anyone use "hoe" as a voice command?
I agree with Cheryl, if using proper horsemanship skills a horse is taught to slow and stop by how the rider uses their body in the saddle. Talking to them while running shouldn't be necesarry and unless you are really screaming chances are they can't hear you anyhow. It must just make a rider feel better. |
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Location: Texas! | bennie1 - 2014-03-09 10:16 PM This is in the top 3 most ridiculous threads ever posted on this board.
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| Well I was taught "hoe/ho" sounds too much like "no" so I say "whoa" and that means stop your feet. They all learn it from the first time I touch them. "Hey" is the attention getter & "easy" is to slow it down or relax. So depending on the response I want, that's what I say. I got out of the habit of saying "whoa" to rate when I ran a reiner. Whoa and sitting down at an increased rate of speed meant slide stop. I only got dashboarded 10 or so times before I finally learned to quit that habit. |
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| slipperyslope - 2014-03-09 9:14 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-03-09 6:18 PM
FirstFirewater - 2014-03-09 6:59 PM
Some seem to find it beneath them to worry about what others do or say- I'm just trying to discuss if you've noticed it, and if it ever irks you. Personally whoa/hoe is stop to my horses :)
I do find this comment to be rude.
I have to focus on my own horses, my own run, I don't need to be distracted with what someone else is doing. If I have a free moment after my run or while I am waiting, I would rather spend my time visiting with friends then tearing apart someone's run.
There are so many different ways to train a successful barrel horse, the only thing that matters is if the rider is having fun.
isn't this kind of like the pot calling the kettle black??
at any rate, if I "say" anything, it's "hey" or easy.
What I got from the op's comment is that she is insinuating that since some of us don't notice how people are cueing their horses, that rudely she is saying we think, we the people who don't notice what other people do, that we are better then everyone at the barrel race.
I don't know the op, still think that she was insulting the riders who don't notice or pay attention to how other people ride.
As I said, I would rather spend the time on my horse preparing for my run, or visiting with my friends, this does not make me any better or worse then any other barrel racer.
I also believe a good horse person if they did notice someone saying whoa at the barrel instead of being disturbed by it, reflect with an open mind and ask the question why would someone do this, what would the point be, and should I be integrating this into my practice.
A good horse person doesn't quit learning and looks at everything with an open mind, as a good horse person knows not all horses are the same, and some training methods needs to be tweaked.
Myself, I am still learning, I try to go to a barrel clinic yearly, I also attend seminars on horse topics such as bits, saddle fit, reining demos. I also have friends that I can ride with that have cutting and working cow background that will give me pointers/suggestions.
To me there is only one individual who is qualified to judge a person, that is definitely not me. |
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| cheryl makofka - 2014-03-09 11:58 PM
slipperyslope - 2014-03-09 9:14 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-03-09 6:18 PM
FirstFirewater - 2014-03-09 6:59 PM
Some seem to find it beneath them to worry about what others do or say- I'm just trying to discuss if you've noticed it, and if it ever irks you. Personally whoa/hoe is stop to my horses :)
I do find this comment to be rude.
I have to focus on my own horses, my own run, I don't need to be distracted with what someone else is doing. If I have a free moment after my run or while I am waiting, I would rather spend my time visiting with friends then tearing apart someone's run.
There are so many different ways to train a successful barrel horse, the only thing that matters is if the rider is having fun.
isn't this kind of like the pot calling the kettle black??
at any rate, if I "say" anything, it's "hey" or easy.
What I got from the op's comment is that she is insinuating that since some of us don't notice how people are cueing their horses, that rudely she is saying we think, we the people who don't notice what other people do, that we are better then everyone at the barrel race.
I don't know the op, still think that she was insulting the riders who don't notice or pay attention to how other people ride.
As I said, I would rather spend the time on my horse preparing for my run, or visiting with my friends, this does not make me any better or worse then any other barrel racer.
I also believe a good horse person if they did notice someone saying whoa at the barrel instead of being disturbed by it, reflect with an open mind and ask the question why would someone do this, what would the point be, and should I be integrating this into my practice.
A good horse person doesn't quit learning and looks at everything with an open mind, as a good horse person knows not all horses are the same, and some training methods needs to be tweaked.
Myself, I am still learning, I try to go to a barrel clinic yearly, I also attend seminars on horse topics such as bits, saddle fit, reining demos. I also have friends that I can ride with that have cutting and working cow background that will give me pointers/suggestions.
To me there is only one individual who is qualified to judge a person, that is definitely not me.
Ok well on that note, I'll say I am the type of person that notices what other people do simply because I'm an observer, a people watcher. Therefore, I notice when people yell or scream things at their horses during a run, or warming up or whatever. If they're just talking to their horse, I generally don't notice it because it doesn't draw my attention. However, I do note in my head during a run when a jockey starts yelling whoa and the horse doesn't pay any attention. I can see the run off, the blown barrel, the knock, from a figurative mile away. Generally I think to myself that the poor horse was set up to fail and/or doesn't know what a true whoa is in my book at least. I don't think I'm necessarily "judging" someone. I may be thinking "well I maybe would try this, do that, think about something else for that horse" and I can't say I've ever worried about being judged from above for it. If anything, I think I'd be doing exactly what you said, attempting to be a good horseperson with an open mind to learn from what others do... |
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Location: WYOMING | Sweet! Guess my horses are smarter than your average horse... they stop and stand to whoa AND they prepare to turn to whoa, when I remember to say something. Whoda thunk I have always had above average intelligence horses!
Whats Spanish or Chinese for whoa? They are so smat Im gonna teach them a secord or third language!
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | WYOracer - 2014-03-09 11:35 PM
bennie1 - 2014-03-09 10:16 PM This is in the top 3 most ridiculous threads ever posted on this board.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Three 4 Luck - 2014-03-10 7:44 AM It's 'ho for mares, whoa for geldings, and close your eyes, hold on for dear life and pray for stallions.
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Location: Stillwater, OK | Whoa means STOP. Hoe means a promiscuous person.
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | CYA Ranch - 2014-03-10 7:47 AM
Three 4 Luck - 2014-03-10 7:44 AM It's 'ho for mares, whoa for geldings, and close your eyes, hold on for dear life and pray for stallions.
Baaahaaaaaahaaaa!
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Location: MD | I have kind of always agreed . but then again my horses don't stop for "whoa" they stop for my seat so I probably could spit out anything and it probably wouldn't matter.
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Location: Texas | First of all, if you truly are concerned about what people say during their pattern, I suggest you find something better to spend your time on...I really only notice it if people drop cuss words, I don't pass judgment on people saying whoa at a barrel...or when they drop a bomb, LOL.
If someone says whoa at a barrel and you find it odd, that's your perogative. I was taught to say whoa, and I think I have an idea of what I am doing. this reminds me of the tiedown threads. It works for me to say it, and I'm really not going to give a flip if someone thinks I'm ignorant for not choosing a different word. Like I said earlier, my horses stop and transition down based on my body language. And they know when we are making a run, not to completely stop.. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | casualdust07 - 2014-03-10 10:30 AM First of all, if you truly are concerned about what people say during their pattern, I suggest you find something better to spend your time on...I really only notice it if people drop cuss words, I don't pass judgment on people saying whoa at a barrel...or when they drop a bomb, LOL. If someone says whoa at a barrel and you find it odd, that's your perogative. I was taught to say whoa, and I think I have an idea of what I am doing. this reminds me of the tiedown threads. It works for me to say it, and I'm really not going to give a flip if someone thinks I'm ignorant for not choosing a different word. Like I said earlier, my horses stop and transition down based on my body language. And they know when we are making a run, not to completely stop..
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | CYA Ranch - 2014-03-10 10:33 AM
casualdust07 - 2014-03-10 10:30 AM First of all, if you truly are concerned about what people say during their pattern, I suggest you find something better to spend your time on...I really only notice it if people drop cuss words, I don't pass judgment on people saying whoa at a barrel...or when they drop a bomb, LOL. If someone says whoa at a barrel and you find it odd, that's your perogative. I was taught to say whoa, and I think I have an idea of what I am doing. this reminds me of the tiedown threads. It works for me to say it, and I'm really not going to give a flip if someone thinks I'm ignorant for not choosing a different word. Like I said earlier, my horses stop and transition down based on my body language. And they know when we are making a run, not to completely stop..
You worded that so well.
She did, hit it on the mark  I'm another one that say's Whoa and I really don't care what anyone says. |
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Location: Texas | I didn't even know it was an issue..LOL I wonder how many times I've been judged for posting my videos on here and oh lord, you can hear me say whoa! At least the timer doesn't add tenths to my time over it. |
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Location: Midwest | LopinOkie88 - 2014-03-10 9:17 AM
Whoa means STOP. Hoe means a promiscuous person.
Actually,
Whoa means stop.
Hoe is a gardening tool.
Ho is a lady of the night.
Ho ho ho is what Santa says.
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | barrelracr131 - 2014-03-10 10:54 AM LopinOkie88 - 2014-03-10 9:17 AM Whoa means STOP. Hoe means a promiscuous person. Actually, Whoa means stop. Hoe is a gardening tool. Ho is a lady of the night. Ho ho ho is what Santa says. The end.
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Location: 31 lengths farms | I'm guilty of typing or writing "whoa" and saying "Ho" but my horses stop so I'm good with it. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Lovin Life - 2014-03-10 9:27 AM
Whoa dammit!! NO WHOA you sorry SOB.... that's kinda how it's been lately. lol
Love it!!! But to answer everyone... The horse does not hear the 'W' in "whoa" only the "O".
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Location: Way down yonder in the indian nation~Oklahoma | It depends... if I'm calming a baby, or one that is having a momentary melt down, I say whoa... slowly, in a low, soft quiet type of voice (ie: inside voice). If I'm trying to stop a runaway I'm probably gonna scream cuss words with a few whoa and ho both... If I'm asking for rate at a barrel, and I remember to speak, it probably sounds more like ho than whoa, but I'm certain my horse knows what I'm saying!!! |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | FirstFirewater - 2014-03-09 6:59 PM Some seem to find it beneath them to worry about what others do or say-
HUH?????
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I have used whoa and here are cues to rate a barrel. What someone else uses doesn't bother me in the least....it's their horse! And anybody who chooses to judge me for using whoa....well that bothers me just about as much.....as in not much at all. I could friggin care less what they think.
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Omg who friggin' cares???? (Did find entertainment in making up my little littanies though. That was fun, somebody get me some new words, I wore all mine out. :) |
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Location: Great NW | barrel_racing_angel - 2014-03-09 7:33 PM dhdqhllc - 2014-03-09 5:43 PM i think that using whoa/hoe to check a horse says a lot about someone's training if that's their method.....and that they don't figure there's much use for their horse other than barrels.... I think that statement is absurd and judgemental. I do say whoa at the barrels, if I need more rate. I don't pull on a horse or check them for rate. I would rather use my body position and voice (if needed) to cue them. What exactly is wrong with that?
I do use my horses for things other than barrels, BTW. My horses aren't stupid- they know the difference when I say it at a barrel or riding around. And no I don't pull on them to stop either. When I say sit down and say whoa, It means get on your ass now. It works for me.
Sorry if I am misunderstanding your statement.
This... and if they are not smart enough to understand I sure as heck do not want to be sitting on their back going all out. JMO. |
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| Havent read all the posts.. I am guilty of saying "hoe." (dont know why I was taught that over whoa). I say it sometimes during a run but I honestly think my body language says more... usually if I feel I dont have his attention, I talk. But its the tone of my voice more than anything. ho or hey or even his name are all in the same voice where hoe to stop is lower and slower. If that makes sense. Its not what you say but how you say it, I think. My horses knows me and he knows my cues. |
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Location: North Dakota | If I have to say anything I say, EASY. I had an old school professor in college that would go on a rampage if anyone said whoa and didn't make the horse stop completely! |
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Location: Qld Australia | angelica - 2014-03-11 10:56 AM If I have to say anything I say, EASY. I had an old school professor in college that would go on a rampage if anyone said whoa and didn't make the horse stop completely!
I am with you!!!
Whoa means whoa. Not slow down, turn or lick your lips but STOP.
To whoever posted and said reiners don't say whoa I don't know where you got that idea from. Most reiners use that word in a major way from teaching babies to stop all the way to trained show horses in the show pen.
Also, I though the OP was just trying to start a fun topic to discuss, what is with all the animosity? |
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | I'm very glad some of you understand what I was talking about and I'm sorry that others dislike the thread. |
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Location: Where Governor's make the liscense plates | rockinj - 2014-03-10 7:37 PM
angelica - 2014-03-11 10:56 AM If I have to say anything I say, EASY. I had an old school professor in college that would go on a rampage if anyone said whoa and didn't make the horse stop completely!
I am with you!!!
Whoa means whoa. Not slow down, turn or lick your lips but STOP.
To whoever posted and said reiners don't say whoa I don't know where you got that idea from. Most reiners use that word in a major way from teaching babies to stop all the way to trained show horses in the show pen.
Also, I though the OP was just trying to start a fun topic to discuss, what is with all the animosity?
thank you for the support I'm not sure why it went so south maybe due to the fact someone commented rudely and I returned the favor? Unfortunately it's not the first or last time it'll happen on this forum I just take it with a grain of salt. I just enjoy talking horses:) |
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| rockinj - 2014-03-10 7:37 PM
angelica - 2014-03-11 10:56 AM If I have to say anything I say, EASY. I had an old school professor in college that would go on a rampage if anyone said whoa and didn't make the horse stop completely!
I am with you!!!
Whoa means whoa. Not slow down, turn or lick your lips but STOP.
To whoever posted and said reiners don't say whoa I don't know where you got that idea from. Most reiners use that word in a major way from teaching babies to stop all the way to trained show horses in the show pen.
Also, I though the OP was just trying to start a fun topic to discuss, what is with all the animosity?
Reiners use it in their training, but at the professional futurity level, my understanding is that the judge doc's the score if your hand moves, legs, and voice commands.
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Location: Qld Australia | cheryl makofka - 2014-03-11 11:51 AM rockinj - 2014-03-10 7:37 PM angelica - 2014-03-11 10:56 AM If I have to say anything I say, EASY. I had an old school professor in college that would go on a rampage if anyone said whoa and didn't make the horse stop completely! I am with you!!!
Whoa means whoa. Not slow down, turn or lick your lips but STOP.
To whoever posted and said reiners don't say whoa I don't know where you got that idea from. Most reiners use that word in a major way from teaching babies to stop all the way to trained show horses in the show pen.
Also, I though the OP was just trying to start a fun topic to discuss, what is with all the animosity? Reiners use it in their training, but at the professional futurity level, my understanding is that the judge doc's the score if your hand moves, legs, and voice commands.
Nope - reining is not judged that way at all. It is very specific and you could talk out loud the whole way round without being penalised.
I can't remeber who it is off the top of my head, maybe Shawn Flarida's dad that hums REALLY LOUD, it echos around indoor pens lol.
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| FirstFirewater - 2014-03-10 7:38 PM
I'm very glad some of you understand what I was talking about and I'm sorry that others dislike the thread.
I'm the one who said it was ridiculous. I thought your original post was innocuous enough, kind of along the lines of a pet peeve. The ridiculousness started with the "high horse" posters who act like it's a sin against all that is holy and one must be a moron to say Whoa or Hoe and pretty much have no business riding because they are so ignorant. |
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Sorry - in a snarky mood tonight and some comments just rubbed me wrong. 
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| It depends on if she rates or not..... lol
I say whoa, or hey, or easy, or really whatever pops to mind in a very calm tone when rating, and it doesn't seem to matter what I say, as long as I say it calmly and SIT on my butt.
Whoever said anyone who says whoa to their barrel horse when rating doesn't have good horses, ummm, this mare is a very nice all around show horse who will go from running barrels to winning an english pleasure class with only a little bit of prep work. She is so untrained though because she doesn't stop on a dime going full speed, even though she pivots, spur stops, sidepasses, and does flying lead changes without blinking an eye. Really? I would rather see someone say whoa than see them haul back on the horse's mouth because it didn't rate.
ETA: Fix some major grammar problems. lol
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Location: PNW | rockinj - 2014-03-10 7:56 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-03-11 11:51 AM rockinj - 2014-03-10 7:37 PM angelica - 2014-03-11 10:56 AM If I have to say anything I say, EASY. I had an old school professor in college that would go on a rampage if anyone said whoa and didn't make the horse stop completely! I am with you!!!
Whoa means whoa. Not slow down, turn or lick your lips but STOP.
To whoever posted and said reiners don't say whoa I don't know where you got that idea from. Most reiners use that word in a major way from teaching babies to stop all the way to trained show horses in the show pen.
Also, I though the OP was just trying to start a fun topic to discuss, what is with all the animosity? Reiners use it in their training, but at the professional futurity level, my understanding is that the judge doc's the score if your hand moves, legs, and voice commands.
I can't remeber who it is off the top of my head, maybe Shawn Flarida's dad that hums REALLY LOUD, it echos around indoor pens lol.
Yes, it is Shawn's dad, I've seen him at many shows and it is funny to hear. My cousin showed reiners for a LONG time very successfully before getting into a serious accident. Reiners definitely say whoa in a pattern - they just don't YELL it like we might yell "______" to cue for rate. It's more of an under-the-breath-deep-in-the-chest "whoa" rather than a loud sharp whoa. More like whooooooaaa instead of WHOA. Reining is judged on the quality of your maneuvers and the willingness of your mount - CUTTING is judged on whether you use your hands.
But back on track.... I don't say anything usually, and if I do it's "here" and that is more for MY benefit than the horse. It's telling ME to sit on my butt and get around the barrel - my horse knows HIS job.lol |
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Location: PNW | RidenFly - 2014-03-10 10:18 PM
Lately it's been..."Why are you clobbering over that barrel? Dammmmiitt I said get past it before you turn it...What? Now? you have to poop NOW?"
Lol been there, had that conversation.
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| svincent - 2014-03-11 8:24 PM RidenFly - 2014-03-10 10:18 PM Lately it's been..."Why are you clobbering over that barrel? Dammmmiitt I said get past it before you turn it...What? Now? you have to poop NOW?" Lol been there, had that conversation. PS I LOVE YOUR BOOK COVER <-----------------
Thank you and yeah, it's kind of sad when you get that many words out when you should be through by that point. LOL |
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Location: Kansas | Whatever works.....works. I try to use my body first, voice last when it comes to asking for a stop.
My big bay gelding I use to own would stop on a dime if you said WHOA. Loved that kid. |
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| It depends on the horse! It also depends on how freaked out I am coming into first barrel! LOL
Some I draw it out Wwhhhoooaaaa in a low voice. Sometimes it's shouted WHOA! And other times it's HOE. Hoe comes out much better when speech is hurried or you are in a bind!
Other times is "Whoa Whoa Whoa, I'm gonna die! Dang it horse! Hoe! I said Hoe! wwhhhoooaaa, it's ok, you are fine." Not sure if I mean the horse is fine or I'm fine, I lived through it! LOL |
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"When I say Whoa...I mean WHOA!!!!"
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| Adding that I had a POA pony who Stopped on a dime when you said Whoa. I went over head several times becaues I'd forget and snap out WHOA. That's where I learned to draw it out. Wwhhhoooaaaa. |
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| casualdust07 - 2014-03-10 10:47 AM
I didn't even know it was an issue..LOL I wonder how many times I've been judged for posting my videos on here and oh lord, you can hear me say whoa! At least the timer doesn't add tenths to my time over it.
what do you think of someone screaming AHHHHHHHH or OOUUU around the barrel.
that's the noise I make when I get to close to barrel or I think im going to fall off... and I really doubt that in a run, if you say whoa your horse will whoa.....and stop all the way. I would like to see that.
they know where the barrels are and I think sometimes people say whoa to help themselves not the horse. I forget to say anything, its all in your body language...... |
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