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Location: Oregon | I'm think of breeding this mare to A Streak Of Fling, hoping for a buckskin roan. She is a big mare 16 hands solid, and is a finished reiner that grew to big. We are currently trying to rope on her.
If you don't think that she would cross wel with him, please tell me why? Or maybe suggest another that would work well with her conformation.
If you don't think she should be bred, let me know too... I'm just wanting some insight.
I would be breeding for myself but a want a quality horse, even thought I wouldn't intend on selling.
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Location: Oregon | No opinons? I understand right now the horse market is flooded and it really isnt a good time to breed, but the prospect horse that I was wanting to buy isnt going to be an option anymore so I'm throwing around the idea of trying to breed for one. |
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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | pedigree wise, she's ok from what i know cow/foundation breeding wise.
Conformationally? i think she's exceptional. She does look like she might have a longer back than she should which most people like to breed short backed horses to ASOF because he is so long backed. So that is something to think about. That is jsut what the pictures show me I could be wrong.
The ASOF/cow crosses have been great so she could potentially throw something nice. and with her A s s dragging ability, that would make a nice barrel foal. |
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| Breeding a short backed horse to a long backed horse does not get a happy medium. Genetics do not work like that.
I would look at as many pictures of horses I like by ASOF and compare their pedigrees. If possible, look at pictures of what they are out of to compare those mares as far as body types go to what you have to see if there is one phenotype that seems to cross on him better than others. From what I've seen... he throws either really pretty, nice horses... or they are really ugly with not a lot inbetween.
Can he produce? Absolutely. But I've always said I would rather buy one of his babies than breed to him because it would be my luck I'd get an ugly one, lol!
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| SKM - 2014-03-12 5:24 PM I would rather buy one of his babies than breed to him because it would be my luck I'd get an ugly one, lol!
My thoughts too!
Of my mares, I have 2 I'd risk it with...but I haven't risked it even though I've thought about it. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I like her better then ASOF. Nice mare.
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| She's gorgeous! I love the way she is built and the fact that she has a reining background makes me love her more.
Here's my 2 cents. As someone else mentioned, ya either hit awesome or crap with the ASOF colts. They are either gorgeous or ugly as sin. I'd do some more digging to look at the breeding on those good made gorgeous colts ... looking especially on the dam side. I love running bred horses on the top and cow bred on the bottom for barrels. I don't think you'll go wrong with ASOF but perhaps be aware of what "might could" happen with the genetics :)
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Location: In a happy place | Sorry it took so long for anyone to respond. I'm going to be different and I would certainly consider ASOF. That is if you really like him. Have you considered Stoli? Or was it the roan color that attracted you. I love your mare....nice nice nice. |
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Location: Oregon | Thank you everyone for the replies.
That colt that got me started thinking about a baby again was a "corona cartel" grandson on sire side and an "on a high" great grandson on the dam side.
I know that I can't get something that well bred with my mare but I was hoping to add some race blood to her cowhorse.
I liked the ASOF because all the ones I have seen running have been more butt draggin ratey type horse which is what I seem to do better with.
I also wouldn't mind adding some height either because I have been warned that she might be a fluke since she was supposed to be a reiner and got HUGE.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | ~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-03-12 5:44 PM Thank you everyone for the replies. That colt that got me started thinking about a baby again was a "corona cartel" grandson on sire side and an "on a high" great grandson on the dam side. I know that I can't get something that well bred with my mare but I was hoping to add some race blood to her cowhorse. I liked the ASOF because all the ones I have seen running have been more butt draggin ratey type horse which is what I seem to do better with. I also wouldn't mind adding some height either because I have been warned that she might be a fluke since she was supposed to be a reiner and got HUGE.
I don't think you are going to get much height with him if that is something you want. If you want butt dragging style, I'd go with a Firewater Flit. Your girl is obviously buckskin so unless you like cremellos and such, you may need to find a bay or sorrel one. Which there are plenty of and Hart farms is now standing a gray and a sorrel out of OUTSTANDING dam lines. |
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Location: Oregon | wyoming barrel racer - 2014-03-12 7:19 PM
~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-03-12 5:44 PM Thank you everyone for the replies. That colt that got me started thinking about a baby again was a "corona cartel" grandson on sire side and an "on a high" great grandson on the dam side. I know that I can't get something that well bred with my mare but I was hoping to add some race blood to her cowhorse. I liked the ASOF because all the ones I have seen running have been more butt draggin ratey type horse which is what I seem to do better with. I also wouldn't mind adding some height either because I have been warned that she might be a fluke since she was supposed to be a reiner and got HUGE.
I don't think you are going to get much height with him if that is something you want. If you want butt dragging style, I'd go with a Firewater Flit. Your girl is obviously buckskin so unless you like cremellos and such, you may need to find a bay or sorrel one. Which there are plenty of and Hart farms is now standing a gray and a sorrel out of OUTSTANDING dam lines.
What is the Grays name?
With her being buckskin it has made me turn away from some of my favorite "hot" studs right now as I don't really want a perlino/ cremello. |
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Location: Oregon | SKM - 2014-03-12 5:24 PM
Breeding a short backed horse to a long backed horse does not get a happen medium. Genetics do not work like that.
I would look at as many pictures of horses I like by ASOF and compare their pedigrees. If possible, look at pictures of what they are out of to compare those mares as far as body types go to what you have to see if there is one phenotype that seems to cross on him better than others. From what I've seen... he throws either really pretty, nice horses... or they are really ugly with not a lot inbetween.
Can he produce? Absolutely. But I've always said I would rather buy one of his babies than breed to him because it would be my luck I'd get an ugly one, lol!
Thank you, there are some things that a really don't like about him, like his back, hip/tail set, but I think my mare could clean that up. I do understand that she is kinda long back although she seems long necked as well. It's hard to find pictures of the dams that produced the horses I like from him. Maybe I should consider a more solid producer. |
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Location: Four Corners Colorado | ~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-03-12 6:44 PM SKM - 2014-03-12 5:24 PM Breeding a short backed horse to a long backed horse does not get a happen medium. Genetics do not work like that.
I would look at as many pictures of horses I like by ASOF and compare their pedigrees. If possible, look at pictures of what they are out of to compare those mares as far as body types go to what you have to see if there is one phenotype that seems to cross on him better than others. From what I've seen... he throws either really pretty, nice horses... or they are really ugly with not a lot inbetween.
Can he produce? Absolutely. But I've always said I would rather buy one of his babies than breed to him because it would be my luck I'd get an ugly one, lol! Thank you, there are some things that a really don't like about him, like his back, hip/tail set, but I think my mare could clean that up. I do understand that she is kinda long back although she seems long necked as well. It's hard to find pictures of the dams that produced the horses I like from him. Maybe I should consider a more solid producer.
If you really want a roan check out Platinum Bully!
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| ASOF only throws two ways, a perfect replica of him, or ugly. You are from Oregon, if you want run Judge Cash, if you want a rate style Firewater Twist. Both of these horses stand in Oregon, I loved my first FWT so much, I had to go buy another. My Judge Cash was a free runner, but I have also heard that not all are free runners.
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Location: Montana | I'm going to add to what Cheryl said, and since you are in Oregon, I'd look into Best Advice for running bred. He doesn't have as high of a breeding fee as ASOF or Judge Cash (and I'd LOVE to cross my mare on Judge Cash if I could afford it and could keep another horse) but he is an own son of Corona Cartel, and is grand-get of Bully Bullion. AAANNNDDD he's a sorrel so no worry about perlino or cremello.  |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | cheryl makofka - 2014-03-12 7:07 PM ASOF only throws two ways, a perfect replica of him, or ugly. You are from Oregon, if you want run Judge Cash, if you want a rate style Firewater Twist. Both of these horses stand in Oregon, I loved my first FWT so much, I had to go buy another. My Judge Cash was a free runner, but I have also heard that not all are free runners. If you want the speed CS Flashlight holds some record for fastest sprint not sure the distance.
I wouldn't even want the perfect replica of him. He's too long. He has a son that is nice though (if pics aren't Dr'd up) called French Steaktovegas. Very pretty roan and won a TON of money at the futurity/derbys. Hallie Melvin (she is married now so diff last name) has him. He's gorgeous in the pics. The gray FWF stud that Hart has is Firewater Canyon http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/articles/industry-news/3974-chad-hart-acquires-young-stallions-firewater-canyon-and-boxers-n-briefs
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Location: In a happy place | jenagarwood - 2014-03-12 9:27 PM
This thought always comes to my mind when people on BHW are talking about ASOF's longer back, or being smaller....so for once I am just going to get it off my chest. Unless you want a halter horse--pretty is as pretty does. And they win!
I agree. The reason I am a fan of ASOF is I had a stud that was by Streakin Six too....only mine was out of an own daughter of Genuine Doc. Most all of the ASOF offspring I have seen have a running style just like my stud. Funny thing about my stud though was he was 15.1 hands tall but most of his offspring was 16+ hands. I love ASOF and it has nothing to do with his color. |
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Location: USA | I have had 2 ASOF offspring and I LOVE THEM!
One of them is 16.2 and beautiful! His momma was a buckskin DTF mare, and he is kind of a buckskin/grulla roan. If I could post pictures from my iPad I would, but it says my picture is to big.
The other one is just a yearling out of a cow bred mare so not sure how big he will get but I love his attitude so far! Both are very laid back and easy to get along with.
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| NICE mare! Like others, I have my own opinions about ASOF babies. It's not so much their conformation, it's the attitude. The ones I've been around aren't mean, but they definitely have a bit of an attitude and that seems to be consistent no matter what the dam line is. If she was my mare and was hoping to get the style of turn you want, I'd take her to either Darkelly, Oh Whatta Boy, or Perks Alive. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Oakley - 2014-03-12 9:55 PM I have had 2 ASOF offspring and I LOVE THEM!
One of them is 16.2 and beautiful! His momma was a buckskin DTF mare, and he is kind of a buckskin/grulla roan. If I could post pictures from my iPad I would, but it says my picture is to big.
The other one is just a yearling out of a cow bred mare so not sure how big he will get but I love his attitude so far! Both are very laid back and easy to get along with.
long back or not, he's a proven producer!
He is and they win. But the beauty of it, is there is a stallion out there for everyone. Different strokes for different folks. I just don't want to walk out every day and look at an ugly horse (no matter how he is bred). I like what I like. She wanted thoughts on ASOF and is getting the good and the bad. In the end, it is still her choice to make, but now she has maybe some more + and - to help her make her choice. There are stallions out there with the WHOLE package, disposition, conformation, pedigree and proven sire. If I ever get my husband to let me AI again, Oh boy! I don't even know where I would start. |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | jenagarwood - 2014-03-12 9:27 PM This thought always comes to my mind when people on BHW are talking about ASOF's longer back, or being smaller....so for once I am just going to get it off my chest. Unless you want a halter horse--pretty is as pretty does. And they win! I agree Jena. People have to find something to pick on. With DTF it was always his head. A winner is a winner to me. I've had some pretty ugly ones myself that suddenly became beautiful in the winners circle.
To the OP, I had an ASOF out of a working bred mare. She was super nice, very athletic, good minded. Her only problem (for me) is that she never grew up. She was 14 hands. I sold her to a more petite rider who is getting along with her great!
I bred one of my DTF daughters to ASOF and we are expecting a foal towards the end of the month.
I bred as an investment. His foals bring 3-4X what the stud fee is. Whether you are breeding for yourself or to sell, I would say he is one of the best investments for the money right now on the stud fee. So go for it.
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jenagarwood - 2014-03-12 9:27 PM This thought always comes to my mind when people on BHW are talking about ASOF's longer back, or being smaller....so for once I am just going to get it off my chest. Unless you want a halter horse--pretty is as pretty does. And they win! I agree Jena. People have to find something to pick on. With DTF it was always his head. A winner is a winner to me. I've had some pretty ugly ones myself that suddenly became beautiful in the winners circle.
To the OP, I had an ASOF out of a working bred mare. She was super nice, very athletic, good minded. Her only problem (for me) is that she never grew up. She was 14 hands. I sold her to a more petite rider who is getting along with her great!
I bred one of my DTF daughters to ASOF and we are expecting a foal towards the end of the month.
I bred as an investment. His foals bring 3-4X what the stud fee is. Whether you are breeding for yourself or to sell, I would say he is one of the best investments for the money right now on the stud fee. So go for it.
I could not agree more with your statement. The one thing I would add is every time one of these threads comes up on ASOF every one states his back is to long. I have seen him on two different times in person with tack on and off. In my opinion when you compare his top line against his bottom line he is not to long. He does have more mass in person than he shows in his pictures and his legs maybe a little short for his body type. But dollar for dollar I think he is an excellent investment. The other stud option I would add to the OP is On A Gator 1500 fee colts average 13000 and the ones I have seen are vary nice.
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jenagarwood - 2014-03-12 9:27 PM This thought always comes to my mind when people on BHW are talking about ASOF's longer back, or being smaller....so for once I am just going to get it off my chest. Unless you want a halter horse--pretty is as pretty does. And they win! I agree Jena. People have to find something to pick on. With DTF it was always his head. A winner is a winner to me. I've had some pretty ugly ones myself that suddenly became beautiful in the winners circle.
To the OP, I had an ASOF out of a working bred mare. She was super nice, very athletic, good minded. Her only problem (for me) is that she never grew up. She was 14 hands. I sold her to a more petite rider who is getting along with her great!
I bred one of my DTF daughters to ASOF and we are expecting a foal towards the end of the month.
I bred as an investment. His foals bring 3-4X what the stud fee is. Whether you are breeding for yourself or to sell, I would say he is one of the best investments for the money right now on the stud fee. So go for it.
I HATE when people comment on heads...Who cares? As long as it has a brain in it, what else does it matter? I would rather run a long backed horse or a big head to a win, than have a halter-pretty horse to show off to friends, that runs in the 3d. |
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Location: Oregon | Thank you everyone for you replies you have given me lots to think about! And several new options to put some research into!! |
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | jbhoot - 2014-03-13 9:53 AM
rockinas - 2014-03-13 9:23 AM
jenagarwood - 2014-03-12 9:27 PM This thought always comes to my mind when people on BHW are talking about ASOF's longer back, or being smaller....so for once I am just going to get it off my chest. Unless you want a halter horse--pretty is as pretty does. And they win! I agree Jena. People have to find something to pick on. With DTF it was always his head. A winner is a winner to me. I've had some pretty ugly ones myself that suddenly became beautiful in the winners circle.
To the OP, I had an ASOF out of a working bred mare. She was super nice, very athletic, good minded. Her only problem (for me) is that she never grew up. She was 14 hands. I sold her to a more petite rider who is getting along with her great!
I bred one of my DTF daughters to ASOF and we are expecting a foal towards the end of the month.
I bred as an investment. His foals bring 3-4X what the stud fee is. Whether you are breeding for yourself or to sell, I would say he is one of the best investments for the money right now on the stud fee. So go for it.
I could not agree more with your statement. The one thing I would add is every time one of these threads comes up on ASOF every one states his back is to long. I have seen him on two different times in person with tack on and off. In my opinion when you compare his top line against his bottom line he is not to long. He does have more mass in person than he shows in his pictures and his legs maybe a little short for his body type. But dollar for dollar I think he is an excellent investment. The other stud option I would add to the OP is On A Gator 1500 fee colts average 13000 and the ones I have seen are vary nice.
On a gator is certainly tempting. His family is producing and are winners. He sold well at heritage too! Love him. I've tossed around a streak of fling but never bit the bullet on breeding to him. Can't go wrong with either IMO. |
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Location: Oregon | I'm really liking On A Gator, with his size and the possiblity that I might be able to just take my mare to be live covered.. He seems to have a much shorter back then ASOF and I do like the Tiny's Gay in there and his maternal side is attractive. Are there any running that anyones knows of? |
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| ~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-03-13 1:47 PM
I'm really liking On A Gator, with his size and the possiblity that I might be able to just take my mare to be live covered.. He seems to have a much shorter back then ASOF and I do like the Tiny's Gay in there and his maternal side is attractive. Are there any running that anyones knows of?
I don't think any are old enough to run barrels yet. There might be a couple on the track as 2yr olds this year. My trainer/jocky has a 3 yr old stud colt by him that is really,really nice. She will start running him next year. |
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Location: Peg-Leg Julia Grimm | ~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-03-13 11:47 AM I'm really liking On A Gator, with his size and the possiblity that I might be able to just take my mare to be live covered.. He seems to have a much shorter back then ASOF and I do like the Tiny's Gay in there and his maternal side is attractive. Are there any running that anyones knows of?
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | OregonBR - 2014-03-13 2:05 PM ~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-03-13 11:47 AM I'm really liking On A Gator, with his size and the possiblity that I might be able to just take my mare to be live covered.. He seems to have a much shorter back then ASOF and I do like the Tiny's Gay in there and his maternal side is attractive. Are there any running that anyones knows of? I can pretty much guarantee Scottie won't be live covering with OAG.
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Location: Oregon | wyoming barrel racer - 2014-03-13 3:15 PM
OregonBR - 2014-03-13 2:05 PM ~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-03-13 11:47 AM I'm really liking On A Gator, with his size and the possiblity that I might be able to just take my mare to be live covered.. He seems to have a much shorter back then ASOF and I do like the Tiny's Gay in there and his maternal side is attractive. Are there any running that anyones knows of? I can pretty much guarantee Scottie won't be live covering with OAG.
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Location: NE WY | So not to rain on your parade, but I am in heart of ASOF country, lots and lots of them around here....people either love them or hate them. I would be in the second category. We have owned 2, I found them to be pea hearted, cold personalities, snorty and of average talent. Now, I wont disagree that I see some video's of friends that have one and they look pretty great, I guess I was just unlucky in that department, but I also have some other friends, notable NFR qualifiers that have had the same luck as me....
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Location: Oklahoma | rockinas - 2014-03-13 9:23 AM jenagarwood - 2014-03-12 9:27 PM This thought always comes to my mind when people on BHW are talking about ASOF's longer back, or being smaller....so for once I am just going to get it off my chest. Unless you want a halter horse--pretty is as pretty does. And they win! I agree Jena. People have to find something to pick on. With DTF it was always his head. A winner is a winner to me. I've had some pretty ugly ones myself that suddenly became beautiful in the winners circle.
To the OP, I had an ASOF out of a working bred mare. She was super nice, very athletic, good minded. Her only problem (for me) is that she never grew up. She was 14 hands. I sold her to a more petite rider who is getting along with her great!
I bred one of my DTF daughters to ASOF and we are expecting a foal towards the end of the month.
I bred as an investment. His foals bring 3-4X what the stud fee is. Whether you are breeding for yourself or to sell, I would say he is one of the best investments for the money right now on the stud fee. So go for it.
I think thats apples to oranges ... an ugly head is one thing but doesnt cause one to break down ... a long, weak back DOES cause soreness issues and one to break down ... SI, lower back, etc etc. JMO. :) |
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Runnin < C > - 2014-03-14 7:51 AM rockinas - 2014-03-13 9:23 AM jenagarwood - 2014-03-12 9:27 PM This thought always comes to my mind when people on BHW are talking about ASOF's longer back, or being smaller....so for once I am just going to get it off my chest. Unless you want a halter horse--pretty is as pretty does. And they win! I agree Jena. People have to find something to pick on. With DTF it was always his head. A winner is a winner to me. I've had some pretty ugly ones myself that suddenly became beautiful in the winners circle.
To the OP, I had an ASOF out of a working bred mare. She was super nice, very athletic, good minded. Her only problem (for me) is that she never grew up. She was 14 hands. I sold her to a more petite rider who is getting along with her great!
I bred one of my DTF daughters to ASOF and we are expecting a foal towards the end of the month.
I bred as an investment. His foals bring 3-4X what the stud fee is. Whether you are breeding for yourself or to sell, I would say he is one of the best investments for the money right now on the stud fee. So go for it.
I was stating that people have to find something to be critical about.
Furthermore, I live in the middle of ASOF country and have yet to see one in real life that has a "weak back".
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Location: Oklahoma | rockinas - 2014-03-14 8:40 AM Runnin < C > - 2014-03-14 7:51 AM rockinas - 2014-03-13 9:23 AM jenagarwood - 2014-03-12 9:27 PM This thought always comes to my mind when people on BHW are talking about ASOF's longer back, or being smaller....so for once I am just going to get it off my chest. Unless you want a halter horse--pretty is as pretty does. And they win! I agree Jena. People have to find something to pick on. With DTF it was always his head. A winner is a winner to me. I've had some pretty ugly ones myself that suddenly became beautiful in the winners circle.
To the OP, I had an ASOF out of a working bred mare. She was super nice, very athletic, good minded. Her only problem (for me) is that she never grew up. She was 14 hands. I sold her to a more petite rider who is getting along with her great!
I bred one of my DTF daughters to ASOF and we are expecting a foal towards the end of the month.
I bred as an investment. His foals bring 3-4X what the stud fee is. Whether you are breeding for yourself or to sell, I would say he is one of the best investments for the money right now on the stud fee. So go for it.
I was stating that people have to find something to be critical about.
Furthermore I live in the middle of ASOF country and have yet to see one with a "weak back".
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I love his dam line though it gives me my two favorite lines Streakin Six and his dam same lines as Frenchmans Guy. Cant go wrong there !
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Location: Beggs, OK | I said Whoa - 2014-03-13 9:45 PM So not to rain on your parade, but I am in heart of ASOF country, lots and lots of them around here....people either love them or hate them. I would be in the second category. We have owned 2, I found them to be pea hearted, cold personalities, snorty and of average talent. Now, I wont disagree that I see some video's of friends that have one and they look pretty great, I guess I was just unlucky in that department, but I also have some other friends, notable NFR qualifiers that have had the same luck as me....
Good luck!!
We have had the same experience. I won't say I will never have one, but it's going to have to already be riding. |
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Extreme Veteran
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| ~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-03-12 8:40 AM I'm think of breeding this mare to A Streak Of Fling, hoping for a buckskin roan. She is a big mare 16 hands solid, and is a finished reiner that grew to big. We are currently trying to rope on her. If you don't think that she would cross wel with him, please tell me why? Or maybe suggest another that would work well with her conformation. If you don't think she should be bred, let me know too... I'm just wanting some insight. I would be breeding for myself but a want a quality horse, even thought I wouldn't intend on selling. Thank you http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/tardys+golden+jewel
If your first thought for breeding was to get a pretty color or a specific color then you are breeding for the wrong reasons. Just go buy one that you think is a pretty color rather than continue adding to an already flooded horse market. If you are set on having ASOF, just go buy one. There are tons out there. Then you can see if it's pretty already rather than hoping it will be. |
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Proud to be Deplorable
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| 3 To Go - 2014-03-14 4:33 PM
~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-03-12 8:40 AM I'm think of breeding this mare to A Streak Of Fling, hoping for a buckskin roan. She is a big mare 16 hands solid, and is a finished reiner that grew to big. We are currently trying to rope on her. If you don't think that she would cross wel with him, please tell me why? Or maybe suggest another that would work well with her conformation. If you don't think she should be bred, let me know too... I'm just wanting some insight. I would be breeding for myself but a want a quality horse, even thought I wouldn't intend on selling. Thank you http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/tardys+golden+jewel
If your first thought for breeding was to get a pretty color or a specific color then you are breeding for the wrong reasons. Just go buy one that you think is a pretty color rather than continue adding to an already flooded horse market. If you are set on having ASOF, just go buy one. There are tons out there. Then you can see if it's pretty already rather than hoping it will be.
Just how is she flooding the horse market? She would be breeding for her own use. Or did you not read that? Her horse she can do what she likes. |
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Heeler Hoarder
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| rockinas - 2014-03-14 11:58 AM
That's also a very nice horse. I booked my retired rodeo mare, that won the 2008 WPRA Derby World Finals, to him for this year. Anxious to see what we get.
I know I so wanted to breed a mare to him this year, but my Fg mare had to go and cut her ear off and stick me with a outrageous vet bill lol Oh well hopefully next year ! |
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Location: Oregon | jbhoot - 2014-03-14 4:54 PM
3 To Go - 2014-03-14 4:33 PM
~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-03-12 8:40 AM I'm think of breeding this mare to A Streak Of Fling, hoping for a buckskin roan. She is a big mare 16 hands solid, and is a finished reiner that grew to big. We are currently trying to rope on her. If you don't think that she would cross wel with him, please tell me why? Or maybe suggest another that would work well with her conformation. If you don't think she should be bred, let me know too... I'm just wanting some insight. I would be breeding for myself but a want a quality horse, even thought I wouldn't intend on selling. Thank you http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/tardys+golden+jewel
If your first thought for breeding was to get a pretty color or a specific color then you are breeding for the wrong reasons. Just go buy one that you think is a pretty color rather than continue adding to an already flooded horse market. If you are set on having ASOF, just go buy one. There are tons out there. Then you can see if it's pretty already rather than hoping it will be.
Just how is she flooding the horse market? She would be breeding for her own use. Or did you not read that? Her horse she can do what she likes.
Thank you, whenever I'm breeding I at least think about the color possibilities, as well as the all the other factors. With this mare being buckskin it took more then a couple of stallions that I would love to bred to out to the question due to color alone. there are many Palomino stallions that I like but I hate the look of a cremello or perlino baby. So is that thinking any different then saying what might be nice with a certain breeding of two colors. I did firstly want views of how everyone thought that this mare would cross with ASOF on all traits not just color.
From what everyone has said and given me lots to think about I'm not fairly sure that I'm not wanting to chance getting lucky and getting one of the nice foals out of him. I'm currently researching other options.
Thank you for your insight though!
edited to say that I only even consider breeding once every five years so I don't think that I would be doing much adding to the flooded horse market. I just want a quality horse because you never can tell what may happen in your future.
Edited by ~rodeojunkie~ 2014-03-14 9:33 PM
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