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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | Looking at a nice 1D horse, too far away to go try, realistically. He is my style of horse, a free runner, and I love his videos. Has a huge win record...if horse vetted sound, would you have the balls to buy him unridden, and have him shipped? Because that's what I'm thinking of doing...help! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Could you fly out to where this horse is and try it out? Just a thought  |
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| I would if I could find someone local that knows the horse and talk to them about it. The owner might be a known shyster or a honest and great horseman. |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | How would I find someone who knew horse or owner?? They are in northern CA? |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | Southtxponygirl - 2014-03-13 10:30 PM Could you fly out to where this horse is and try it out? Just a thought
thought strongly about just that $600 roundtrip ticket...then Id have to get him home, how much does horse transport cost, anyway? |
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Location: home for the winter...what a dumb idea | Depends on how far and if you are a priority slot....I shipped a horse to KY from CO last year.... wasn't bad....I was a fill horse if when they had space they took him.....Hitch your horse a ride..is a FB page there are tons of good shippers on there |
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | Rodeo_cowgirl - 2014-03-13 10:43 PM
Depends on how far and if you are a priority slot....I shipped a horse to KY from CO last year.... wasn't bad....I was a fill horse if when they had space they took him.....Hitch your horse a ride..is a FB page there are tons of good shippers on there
do they charge by mileage or what? This horse is comin from CA to TX about 1800 miles (gasp)away. How much would that cost? |
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Location: Montana | Me, I'd go look at him any ways...if he is a true 1D horse, it may be the best $600 you'd spend...and if he's not at least you only spent $600 to find that out. JMHO.
You might check the transportation forum on here to see if anyone is heading from CA to TX. :-) |
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Location: Here | mtcanchazer - 2014-03-13 10:56 PM
Me, I'd go look at him any ways...if he is a true 1D horse, it may be the best $600 you'd spend...and if he's not at least you only spent $600 to find that out. JMHO.
You might check the transportation forum on here to see if anyone is heading from CA to TX. :-)
Exactly No to your question I would have to
Try video doesn't show feel. |
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| I bet someone on here knows the horse and rider especially if its a 1D horse.
Google search the registered name and also search for it on youtube for random videos.
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | yall have given me much to think about...thank you. Concensus is, spend the money, go try the horse. Thanks again  |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | If I was planing on spending top dollar on a 1d barrel horse I would spend the extra money and go try him. I would not want to risk spending money on a horse that may not fit my style of riding.
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Location: Kansas | No
Unless the horse is 2 or younger, I would never try without riding
For a horse that is currently competevie in the 1D, trying is a must. No way would I buy without riding him or getting personal help in getting with him
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Location: In a happy place | I think you would be way ahead to fly out and try him. I had a horse shipped from California to Texas, but it was a few years back. It cost me $600. I was very pleased with the man doing the shipping. |
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| In 2012 I bought 2 horses sight unseen. I had flown all over and was just over it, so I bought them without seeing them first. Tons of videos, tons of pictures, tons of conversations. Both horses came to me EXACTLY as advertised...and if I had gone to see them in person I wouldn't have bought either of them! I am picky about little things...personality, willingness and conformation, and photos are just hard to be really sure about.
Luckily I sold one quickly, the other got hurt and now he's a lifer here that honestly is hard to be around.
I have since bought 3 that I flew to see. I couldn't ride any of them, because I was just out of back surgery, but I went and watched them handled, handled them myself, watched them ride. And love, love, love them.
I spent some money traveling, but nothing compared to ending up with another expensive horse I did not like.
Southwest and Frontier are usually the cheapest...Good Luck! |
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| If you are wanting to ship then call Equine Express. They are great and take really good care if the horses while in Transport. |
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Location: mi | Spend the money and fly out and ride him. Also I would try to schedule the trip around some time when you could actually run the horse even if its just alittle playday. So you can have a feel of him in the pen. And I would also have a Vet appointment for your prepurchase scheduled for when you are out there if possible. Then you are there first hand to see everything. Then you can fly home and arrange shipping with total peace of mind.
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Location: Sherman, TX | I bought a DTF bred stud last October from CAL. I got quotes from $650-900 for shipping here to Texas. Lucked out and found someone coming from CAL. to the Andalusian show in Fort Worth, they were advertising slots open on Facebook. I only had to pay $300 to get him here and they did an excellent job because they stopped so frequently so their horses would be rested up for the show. So I would try asking on Facebook. I have used Equine Express in the past as have several of my friends, they always did an excellent job. Think they said they make 2 trips a month to CA. |
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Location: North Dakota | Myself personally? I would need to actually ride the horse and see how he felt to me, and if we would seem to match.
If I was spending the big bucks on a proven 1D horse, I'd fly out to see him. Absolutely. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | If it was an unbroke young one, yes.
But for the money spent if it's a TRUE 1D horse, then absolutely not. My horse is a 1D horse. With me on him. He has never run in the 1D the few times others have gotten on him.
Just because he's 1D for that rider doesn't mean he will be for you. For a horse to be a top top 1D horse, they have to match with their rider. You may be a capable rider, but that doesn't mean you will match this horse. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | No, I wouldn't buy a 1d without seeing them, riding them in person. |
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Location: Midwest | Assuming said horse is priced competitively, he will be at least 5 figures (I imagine)
What's 600 or so odd dollars to go try him at this point? |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | barrelracr131 - 2014-03-14 9:07 AM Assuming said horse is priced competitively, he will be at least 5 figures (I imagine) What's 600 or so odd dollars to go try him at this point?
That was my thought. when you spend that much money on a true 1D horse the flight there and the shipping of the horse is small potatoes |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | No, I wouldn't....pictures, videos, etc can be deceptive...AND unless you have the actual feel of the horse under you, you will not know if he is a match for your riding style!
Edited by NJJ 2014-03-14 9:40 AM
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| Unless money is absolutely not a problem take the time and money to go ride the horse |
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Location: Sweet Home Alabama | Sangria - 2014-03-13 11:51 PM
No
Unless the horse is 2 or younger, I would never try without riding
For a horse that is currently competevie in the 1D, trying is a must. No way would I buy without riding him or getting personal help in getting with him
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| We bought a calf horse sight unseen (didn't even see pictures of him) a year and a half ago. A trusted friend had checked him out and said he was what the owner said he was, and he looked good.
When we drove down to bring him home (about a 24 hour trip, one way) he was under weight, had badly under run heels, and was UGLY. We met somebody part way so couldn't exactly send him home so we took a chance, brought him home, fed him up, and despite his awful conformation he has been 100% sound, is wicked fast, and takes his job as a calf horse very seriously. We were very lucky.
Im about 99% sure I couldn't do that again... we were so lucky that this gelding ended up being a good calf horse because he's ugly enough that he'd be really really hard to sell if it hadn't worked out. lol |
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Location: Oklahoma | The only way I would do that is if the horse seemed REALLY cheap for what he was....I bought one last year, and he is a true 1D horse, and I couldn't ride him. I'm too old to stay with a horse like that any more, but luckily, there were plenty of young riders that loved to run him for me, so I got him sold, and came out all right and his new owner loves him and is winning on him....but if he hadn't been really cheap for what he appeared to be, I'd have never bought him. If he's priced like a true 1D horse and I was going to drop that kind of money, you can bet I'd be in the truck w/a trailer driving to try him. Miles, diesel and time are cheaper than loosing 5 figure money on a horse that doesn't fit you. |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | CrossCreek - 2014-03-13 10:49 PM Rodeo_cowgirl - 2014-03-13 10:43 PM Depends on how far and if you are a priority slot....I shipped a horse to KY from CO last year.... wasn't bad....I was a fill horse if when they had space they took him.....Hitch your horse a ride..is a FB page there are tons of good shippers on there do they charge by mileage or what? This horse is comin from CA to TX about 1800 miles (gasp )away. How much would that cost?
First off,
contact John Floyd.
He is from northern Cali and might know them. He can give you people that will reputably try the horse. However, I would want to ride it myself for the kind of money it would cost.
Then once again, John is a dang good hauler and could tell you what it would cost. Plus, he lives in Texas and makes trips out there pretty frequently.
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Location: Texas | The last 2 horses I purchased were sight unseen. Both were priced below $30k and advertised on BHW. They both had win records and both ended up being a great horses. As a matter of fact, I ended up selling the mare to a friend last year, and they are doing great together. They are actually in the top 15 at present. The horse I replaced her with I didn't even get a vet check on. I bought him on the phone, did a little research, picked him up and brought him home. That one has worked out really good for me too. He can get you a 1d check pretty much every run. You're always taking a chance when you do it so you really need to do some homework and be smart about it. I always go pick them up myself though. The nice ones that are priced right will sell really fast, so sometimes you have to be on your toes and get them bought before someone else does. Good luck with whatever you decide. And pray about it! :)
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Location: Ky | CrossCreek - 2014-03-13 10:24 PM Looking at a nice 1D horse, too far away to go try, realistically. He is my style of horse, a free runner, and I love his videos. Has a huge win record...if horse vetted sound, would you have the balls to buy him unridden, and have him shipped? Because that's what I'm thinking of doing...help!
No. Not for supposedly finished horse. Not only go ride the horse but ride the horse at a show or barrle race. That's the only way to find out if it's a fit for you. It might ride great at home.
I learned this lesson the hard way. Cost me far more than what trip to ride it ever would have. If they balk at letting you ride it competition then balk at the purchase. |
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Location: California | I messaged you |
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Location: Oklahoma | I PM'ed you as well! Headed to a race in Red Bluff in a bit |
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Location: Texas | I know of someone in Texas who bought a horse from Washington state or Oregon (cannot remember which) and paid 25K plus shipping. The horse is/was 1D with lots of video, she was in love. Now she will not ride the horse because he is nervous and a pain to just ride around. I would either find something closer or fly out to ride. |
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Location: TEXAS | Absolutely not! I sold a PROBLEM mare last year for 1000 and the girl turned around 2 days later and listed her for 10,000 with all kinds of lies in the ad!!!! AND had the balls to use MY pics and videos!!! I am sure she ended up scamming somebody because I lost track of her but I blocked a couple of her sales and got the ad deleted from a couple places. Wayyyy to scary. |
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| BarrelStarr - 2014-03-15 10:20 PM
Absolutely not! I sold a PROBLEM mare last year for 1000 and the girl turned around 2 days later and listed her for 10,000 with all kinds of lies in the ad!!!! AND had the balls to use MY pics and videos!!! I am sure she ended up scamming somebody because I lost track of her but I blocked a couple of her sales and got the ad deleted from a couple places. Wayyyy to scary.
something very similar happened to me! Plus someone's description of free runner can be very different than the truth. Videos can be deceiving and so can records. You just never know now days.
spend the money and go ride it. |
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Location: Central Montana | Probably not. Been there, done that. Unless the horse was super cheap and you could recoup the money if it wasn't what it is advertised as I would pass.
I traded for one a few years ago that absolutely was not what it was advertised as. Neither of us tried horses, just swapped because she was in TX and I"m in MT. I kept her for about 3 months and sold her.
Bought a reiner in October and had him shipped from MN without having ridden him. After talking to the owner several times on the phone and seeing several videos the owner told me he thought the horse would do well with me and he thought I'd do a good job with him and take care of him and offered him to me for a lot less than he had him advertised for. It was very obvious the owner loved the horse, very much. Although he has what I consider issues (doesn't like to load, stand tied, ride alone, drink when traveling) that I didn't know about I think he is going to be just fine and work well for what I wanted.
Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose, it just depends on how big of a gamble you are willing to take and how much you can afford to lose if it doesn't work out. |
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Location: relocated to Texas | CrossCreek - 2014-03-14 9:39 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-03-13 10:30 PM Could you fly out to where this horse is and try it out? Just a thought
Going to cost a lot more than $600 dollars if the horse is not what they say it is. I would buy a young horse sight unseen (as long as I had someone that could go look at it for me) but not a finished horse. You need to know if you are a fit for this horse. I don't care how big a win record he has with someone else. |
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Location: Viola, IL | I bought my good mare, sort of without trying her. I knew I liked her and would get along with her from talking to the owner and seeing dozens of videos. I paid the $25,000 before meeting her halfway. I paid for her to transport her to the halfway point, and I rode her there. (Rented a big indoor). I took an hour lesson on her, and loved her even more than I did when I left home! I loaded her on the trailer and left for home.
It can go both ways. I was very happy with the transaction. They would not let me buy her without riding her, and I was very thankful for that!
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Location: Probably On the Road to the Next Barrel Race! | thank all of you...I am praying and researching with help :) |
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| RocketPilot - 2014-03-14 8:13 PM I know of someone in Texas who bought a horse from Washington state or Oregon (cannot remember which) and paid 25K plus shipping. The horse is/was 1D with lots of video, she was in love. Now she will not ride the horse because he is nervous and a pain to just ride around. I would either find something closer or fly out to ride.
Can I have her number? LOL
It makes WAY more sense to try the horse first and I would suggest doing so...but having said that I have purchased a few horses without riding them. One was a 2D horse, the other was a 1D horse. Both horses were exactly as they were represented.
It takes me a while to get with a horse and I'm not comfortable getting on a strange horse and making a run. I'm not talking a 4D run, I'm talking about riding a 1D rocket. It takes me a while to trust a new horse (aka FAST horse) so even if I would have drove the 500+ miles to see said horse I wouldn't have made a "real" run on the horse.
Yes the smart thing is to see and ride horse first but I've done it before and if my gut trusts the seller I'd probably do it again.
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would you buy this horse w/o having ever ridden it??