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Location: Hill Country of TEXAS!! | It changed formulas and all 10 horses lost along of weight fast as did others who I knew fed it. It was too expensive and I had to pour the feed to all 10 and pile up the hay to keep them decent weight. I only fed it because a friend was a dealer and delivered it to my barn for a little over his cost. Definitely not worth it!! I'm happy with Patriot. Half a scoop 2x a day keeps my crew in good shape. Hard working horses get 1- 1.5 scoops 2x a day. |
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Location: Here | Dash4KJ - 2014-03-20 10:10 PM It changed formulas and all 10 horses lost along of weight fast as did others who I knew fed it. It was too expensive and I had to pour the feed to all 10 and pile up the hay to keep them decent weight. I only fed it because a friend was a dealer and delivered it to my barn for a little over his cost. Definitely not worth it!! I'm happy with Patriot. Half a scoop 2x a day keeps my crew in good shape. Hard working horses get 1- 1.5 scoops 2x a day.
I agree it was good at first but I stopped feeding it long time ago
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Location: Texas | SG, what did you switch to? I am still feeding it and thinking about switching... |
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| I tried it for two yrs, only 2 out of 8 horses did ok on it, my mare came up with too much calcium almost point of kidney stones, I stopped feeding it all together,
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Location: South MS | I had all my horses on it for about 6 months - then they all started to drop off and I was pouring the feed to try to get it back on them and for $19 a bag (40# bag= about 17 scps in each back) I was flying through feed
I ended up putting the pasture horses on just a cheap 12% pellet feed and the performance horses are now on oats/beet pulp/flax and alfalfa
I will say the horses looked great for the first few months but I can afford to pour 2 scps 2x per day to 5 horses - I was going through like 20-24 bags a month |
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Location: South TEXAS | Dash4KJ - 2014-03-20 10:10 PM
It changed formulas and all 10 horses lost along of weight fast as did others who I knew fed it. It was too expensive and I had to pour the feed to all 10 and pile up the hay to keep them decent weight. I only fed it because a friend was a dealer and delivered it to my barn for a little over his cost. Definitely not worth it!! I'm happy with Patriot. Half a scoop 2x a day keeps my crew in good shape. Hard working horses get 1- 1.5 scoops 2x a day.
do you know when the formula changed??? I had fed it(4#/day) and loved it till maybe November and mine went down hill. my BFF is a dealer and feeds her barrel horses 2 sc twice a day=8# that's a lot |
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Location: Hill Country of TEXAS!! | starkfarms - 2014-03-21 9:19 AM Dash4KJ - 2014-03-20 10:10 PM It changed formulas and all 10 horses lost along of weight fast as did others who I knew fed it. It was too expensive and I had to pour the feed to all 10 and pile up the hay to keep them decent weight. I only fed it because a friend was a dealer and delivered it to my barn for a little over his cost. Definitely not worth it!! I'm happy with Patriot. Half a scoop 2x a day keeps my crew in good shape. Hard working horses get 1- 1.5 scoops 2x a day. do you know when the formula changed??? I had fed it (4#/day ) and loved it till maybe November and mine went down hill. my BFF is a dealer and feeds her barrel horses 2 sc twice a day=8# that's a lot
Sometime in the fall. Sept/ Oct maybe? Anderson denies it changed but color and smell changed. |
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Location: Texas | Hmmm, mine have all the sudden become hard keepers too. Been feeding it for a couple of years, but this winter they are all looking ribby and stragley............ |
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Location: My Own Little World | I have never used it because for me to feed it to 4 horses was going to cost $264/ month at their reccomended dose. And as far as feeding less hay, I certainly wouldn't want to do that because we live in Nevada where there is no pasture and I think giving them less forage is not a good idea |
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Location: Anywhere my horses are ! Lost in Texas!!!!! | I feed TE to my mare,and had no problems. I have to be careful what I feed her. And TE has worked the best for her. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I fed it and liked it, but haven't since last fall. I just had my babies and show horse on something else. I don't think I will go back after reading this. It's hard for me to get anyways. I have actually been very happy with Safechoice Perform. |
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Location: Where the road leads me | I feed it and also noticed a change in the feed last fall. It use to smell yummy sweet like blueberry muffins and it sure don't smell like that anymore. Glad to know Im not the only one to have noticed something is different. Not happy. The hoof quality on my horses has declined however my horses still look and perform well and I will continue to feed Total Equine for now. I hope they get it fixed I would hate to have to switch.
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Location: In a happy place | I had good luck with it a few years back when I fed it to my stud horse. After reading this I won't use it again. |
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Location: Ellensburg, Washington | I just finished 30 days on it and I really like it. I just got 3 new bags today and noticed the color and smell difference. The pellets also look smaller. I feed 8# a day. I am hoping after reading all this I didn't waste my money on 3 more bags! |
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| I just got 4 more bags. My mare that I just could NOT get to fill out now looks amazing! She also went from 4D to 1/2D. I have not had any problems with her dropping weight at all. The bags I just got yesterday do seem to have smaller pellets, but I think that is good. My mare doesn't lose any that way! Smaller pellets doesn't hurt anything the weight of the bag is the same.
I just started my gelding on it too. They are OBSESSED with it. It still smells sweet to me like the bags before. I am sure it is like anything else it doesn't work for every horse. I would also check the hay your feeding, water content (if you are having calcium problems) and other supplements. The only thing I'd like to take out of TE is the sugar. I avoid sugar and corn in any feed. I am sure we are all crazy horse ladies/guys here and have our preferences though! lol |
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Location: South MS | My horses did really well on it for 6-8 months - then started dropping weight - I was feeding 2x what I was told I would need to so it got really expensive
I feed non performance horses a 12% stock pellet
Performance horses get rolled oats, beet pulp, and flax - they look better than they every have on that and they are only getting 1/2scp oats and 1/2 beet pulp 2x daily and are fat |
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| I feed it.. and have loved it. My colt really filled out on his top line and nothing I have is loosing weight.. I did notice a change in the size and also the smell... does anyone know what the deal with the smell was? It started to smell like some weird sweet flower or something.. interesting? |
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| I used TE for a couple of years, 2 out of 10 I thought did ok on it, as far as weight, then my mare starting acting colicy, had impaction, first vet said, then she quit urinating, went another vet, she had so much calcium build up to the point of kidney stones. I have been dealing with this since july year ago, poor mare, had meds injected into her kidneys, this has been a nightmare. I thought soreness in her back was ovaries. its been a long road of treatment,
I WILL NEVER FEED TOTAL EQUINE TO ANYTHING AGAIN!!
I use Safe Choice maintence now , mare is getting better not sure she will ever totally recover the other was a 20 yr old gelding. he is turned out now |
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Location: Texas | We've fed it for a long time. Have three geldings on it. I haven't noticed any changes since the fall. Hubby is the one who feeds though and is real picky about how our horses are fed. He hasn't mentioned anything different about it and we still use it. We're really happy with it.
Like all feeds though, it works for some but not all. It has helped supplement our average hay. Here in Texas, we just have coastal. My father-in-law also feeds TE and he has awesome hay. He's in Wyoming. But he doesn't feed as much TE as we do. |
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Location: Kansas | Made my best friends horses super hot, and also caused them to look pretty sunk in. She has since switched. Others that feed it love it, and their horses look great. Must of been a flook with her horses LOL |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | I can't believe I missed this thread! I had to switch my horse off of a new feed because we found out through alergy testing that he is allergic to Flax. I don't want to mess around with combining this and that so I want a complete feed. Do you know how hard it is to find feed or supplements without Flax? TE and Triple Crown Lite was the only feed I could find. I just started him on TE and he loves it. This thread has put a knot in my stomach! Especially when SG turned it down. LOL! |
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Location: Central Texas | About 1 1/2 years ago I bought 2 tons for 8 horses. One horse improved on it, the 25 yr old mare, and all the others dropped condition dramatically. It is the only feed out of all that I have tried through the years that made my horses fall off so much. Never again! |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | I really can't tell you how well our horses did on it .....because we purchased 400# and couldn't get them to eat it......we had to finally mix it WITH another feed to get rid of it....... |
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| We fed one horse TE for about 2 months this spring. We fed the recommended amount. He didn't do very well on it. We went back to Ultium. On the Ultium he fills out really nice and we didn't notice that on the TE. We usually don't feed grain in the winter, so it was a good experiment to go from no grain for about 4 months to trying something totally different.
Couple questions and I guess comments about it...wasn't it developed in Texas? And isn't the main ingredient alfalfa hay? The reason I ask is that in the NW we have access to great alfalfa and orchard grass hay. We feed a quality mix, so my expectation of this feed doing anything spectatular for us maybe too high.
Also, what is everyone feeding with this? Wouldn't how well versus not well a horse does on it be impacted by what else is fed? For example, me feeding it with a good alfalfa/orchard grass mix with no other supplements would be different than someone only feeding TE and coastal grass or someone feeding TE, some kind of hay, and adding in a supplement such as Pureform or Platinum. Not trying to tear down anyone...just enjoy these types of discussions.  |
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Location: Texas | I LOVE Total Equine. It's great feed. My horse is an easy keeper and thought that he might be insulin resistent by how he reacted to some other feeds we tried. I put him on Total Equine, and he has done awesome since then. His coat is great and he eats it fine. My soon to be father-in-law feeds it to all his horses, even a 30 year old mare who is a very hard keeper and she does well on it. I haven't had trouble with colicing or high and low energy spells like my horse had before due to his insulin being out of whack. |
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Location: Texas | GWR - 2014-05-05 3:28 PM We fed one horse TE for about 2 months this spring. We fed the recommended amount. He didn't do very well on it. We went back to Ultium. On the Ultium he fills out really nice and we didn't notice that on the TE. We usually don't feed grain in the winter, so it was a good experiment to go from no grain for about 4 months to trying something totally different.
Couple questions and I guess comments about it...wasn't it developed in Texas? And isn't the main ingredient alfalfa hay? The reason I ask is that in the NW we have access to great alfalfa and orchard grass hay. We feed a quality mix, so my expectation of this feed doing anything spectatular for us maybe too high.
Also, what is everyone feeding with this? Wouldn't how well versus not well a horse does on it be impacted by what else is fed? For example, me feeding it with a good alfalfa/orchard grass mix with no other supplements would be different than someone only feeding TE and coastal grass or someone feeding TE, some kind of hay, and adding in a supplement such as Pureform or Platinum. Not trying to tear down anyone...just enjoy these types of discussions.
I feed mine with coastal hay and good alfalfa, but my father-in-law feeds his with only grass hay and his horses do well too. I think though you're right about it depends on what they feed with it. It does have a lot of alfalfa in the grain. |
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Location: Texas | GWR - 2014-05-05 3:28 PM We fed one horse TE for about 2 months this spring. We fed the recommended amount. He didn't do very well on it. We went back to Ultium. On the Ultium he fills out really nice and we didn't notice that on the TE. We usually don't feed grain in the winter, so it was a good experiment to go from no grain for about 4 months to trying something totally different.
Couple questions and I guess comments about it...wasn't it developed in Texas? And isn't the main ingredient alfalfa hay? The reason I ask is that in the NW we have access to great alfalfa and orchard grass hay. We feed a quality mix, so my expectation of this feed doing anything spectatular for us maybe too high.
Also, what is everyone feeding with this? Wouldn't how well versus not well a horse does on it be impacted by what else is fed? For example, me feeding it with a good alfalfa/orchard grass mix with no other supplements would be different than someone only feeding TE and coastal grass or someone feeding TE, some kind of hay, and adding in a supplement such as Pureform or Platinum. Not trying to tear down anyone...just enjoy these types of discussions.
Yes to both questions. The vet who developed it lives in Houston (I believe) and the main ingredient is alfalfa.
The main hay grown in Texas is coastal, which is a bermuda grass. As far as nutritional content goes, it's not great hay. We feed coastal more for the roughage and the fiber. That may be why all our horses have done well on TE. We also didn't have hard keepers or anything to begin with. All our geldings were fine prior to it, but seem to look better on it.
Like all feeds, I think it works for some and not others. And it may work better for horses that only have access to poorer quality hay. |
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| NJJ - 2014-05-05 11:54 AM
I really can't tell you how well our horses did on it .....because we purchased 400# and couldn't get them to eat it......we had to finally mix it WITH another feed to get rid of it.......
Mine wouldn't eat it either. Switched back to Woodys. |
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| I know of several horses who’ve have problems with repeated hoof abscesses while on TE including my own. Not a fan. |
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| It is $32 a bag here so I wouldn't buy it but I won a bag at a race so fed that it wasn't enough to notice anything but I did take some around to the whole herd and only had a few who would even try it. When I look at the ingredients there isn't anything that impresses me. I mix my own right now. |
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Location: Texas | My 7-yr old gelding has been on Total Equine for probably 8 months. The last month or so, I thought he was not looking or feeling as good. I started him on Triple Crown Senior last week. He really likes it and has already kind of perked up. I am feeding him a little more so that may be the difference. I guess we will see. |
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| aggiejudger - 2014-05-05 1:36 PM GWR - 2014-05-05 3:28 PM We fed one horse TE for about 2 months this spring. We fed the recommended amount. He didn't do very well on it. We went back to Ultium. On the Ultium he fills out really nice and we didn't notice that on the TE. We usually don't feed grain in the winter, so it was a good experiment to go from no grain for about 4 months to trying something totally different.
Couple questions and I guess comments about it...wasn't it developed in Texas? And isn't the main ingredient alfalfa hay? The reason I ask is that in the NW we have access to great alfalfa and orchard grass hay. We feed a quality mix, so my expectation of this feed doing anything spectatular for us maybe too high.
Also, what is everyone feeding with this? Wouldn't how well versus not well a horse does on it be impacted by what else is fed? For example, me feeding it with a good alfalfa/orchard grass mix with no other supplements would be different than someone only feeding TE and coastal grass or someone feeding TE, some kind of hay, and adding in a supplement such as Pureform or Platinum. Not trying to tear down anyone...just enjoy these types of discussions.
The main hay grown in Texas is coastal, which is a bermuda grass. As far as nutritional content goes, it's not great hay. We feed coastal more for the roughage and the fiber. That may be why all our horses have done well on TE. We also didn't have hard keepers or anything to begin with. All our geldings were fine prior to it, but seem to look better on it.
Like all feeds, I think it works for some and not others. And it may work better for horses that only have access to poorer quality hay.
This is what I was thinking...that Texas doesn't have quality hay as easily accessible like in the NW. Don't mean that negative; I just know it's hard to get good alfalfa or alfalfa at all in Texas. So my thought was that it was mostly developed for those who cannot get that and that maybe I wouldn't see noticeable results with it since I was already feeding a quality forage. |
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| TXBarrelRacer84 - 2014-05-05 1:34 PM GWR - 2014-05-05 3:28 PM We fed one horse TE for about 2 months this spring. We fed the recommended amount. He didn't do very well on it. We went back to Ultium. On the Ultium he fills out really nice and we didn't notice that on the TE. We usually don't feed grain in the winter, so it was a good experiment to go from no grain for about 4 months to trying something totally different.
Couple questions and I guess comments about it...wasn't it developed in Texas? And isn't the main ingredient alfalfa hay? The reason I ask is that in the NW we have access to great alfalfa and orchard grass hay. We feed a quality mix, so my expectation of this feed doing anything spectatular for us maybe too high.
Also, what is everyone feeding with this? Wouldn't how well versus not well a horse does on it be impacted by what else is fed? For example, me feeding it with a good alfalfa/orchard grass mix with no other supplements would be different than someone only feeding TE and coastal grass or someone feeding TE, some kind of hay, and adding in a supplement such as Pureform or Platinum. Not trying to tear down anyone...just enjoy these types of discussions.
Thanks for the reply. It would make sense to see greater results or the horse turn crazy when feeding it to a horse that doesn't or isn't used to getting alfalfa already, or that's my thought. I always wonder what other things people are feeding their horses when I see a review on a product. Hard to know if it's just that one product that gives results or something else they are feeding. |
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Location: Kansas | When I read threads like this all I think of is how many horses have hock issues caused by bone overgrowth. In other words spurs etc. To much calcium versus phosphorus and magnesium. Feeding a feed with this much alfalfa equates to a lot of calcium?? I haven't seen the label. Then if your feeding alfalfa hay on top of it. Vets sure like it when people run in to get injections all the time though. |
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Location: Florida.. | amy laymon - 2014-05-06 9:01 AM When I read threads like this all I think of is how many horses have hock issues caused by bone overgrowth. In other words spurs etc. To much calcium versus phosphorus and magnesium. Feeding a feed with this much alfalfa equates to a lot of calcium?? I haven't seen the label. Then if your feeding alfalfa hay on top of it. Vets sure like it when people run in to get injections all the time though.
That is a Unfair statement . I think its far from the truth. Vets know its a risk of infection and dont promote injections and in fact most will not do them unless called for the comfort of horse.
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | amy laymon - 2014-05-06 8:01 AM When I read threads like this all I think of is how many horses have hock issues caused by bone overgrowth. In other words spurs etc. To much calcium versus phosphorus and magnesium. Feeding a feed with this much alfalfa equates to a lot of calcium?? I haven't seen the label. Then if your feeding alfalfa hay on top of it. Vets sure like it when people run in to get injections all the time though.
Thank goodness the Purina thread is frozen and you didnt get on that one- you may have taken a bashing for your COBB mix--- corn is the devil dont ya know? 
But on the topic of bone spurs-- I do wonder the role nutrition plays. We have had customers xray colts before they came to have a base line. You would be surprised the number BORN with boney issues- OCD, spurs, growth plate. And each had their own idea of the best nutrition plan before we ever had their colts. |
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Location: Texas | GWR - 2014-05-05 11:41 PM aggiejudger - 2014-05-05 1:36 PM GWR - 2014-05-05 3:28 PM We fed one horse TE for about 2 months this spring. We fed the recommended amount. He didn't do very well on it. We went back to Ultium. On the Ultium he fills out really nice and we didn't notice that on the TE. We usually don't feed grain in the winter, so it was a good experiment to go from no grain for about 4 months to trying something totally different.
Couple questions and I guess comments about it...wasn't it developed in Texas? And isn't the main ingredient alfalfa hay? The reason I ask is that in the NW we have access to great alfalfa and orchard grass hay. We feed a quality mix, so my expectation of this feed doing anything spectatular for us maybe too high.
Also, what is everyone feeding with this? Wouldn't how well versus not well a horse does on it be impacted by what else is fed? For example, me feeding it with a good alfalfa/orchard grass mix with no other supplements would be different than someone only feeding TE and coastal grass or someone feeding TE, some kind of hay, and adding in a supplement such as Pureform or Platinum. Not trying to tear down anyone...just enjoy these types of discussions.
The main hay grown in Texas is coastal, which is a bermuda grass. As far as nutritional content goes, it's not great hay. We feed coastal more for the roughage and the fiber. That may be why all our horses have done well on TE. We also didn't have hard keepers or anything to begin with. All our geldings were fine prior to it, but seem to look better on it.
Like all feeds, I think it works for some and not others. And it may work better for horses that only have access to poorer quality hay.
Not negative at all. You can get alfalfa in Texas, but it will run you at least $13/small bale in good years and up to $20/bale or more in drought years. So for us, combining TE and coastal has been cost effective and a great combination. I think that is really why it works for us. The horses are getting the required roughage in the coastal, but the TE has fulfilled their other nutritional requirements. If we lived elsewhere and had access to better hay, we might not feed TE.
I truly believe there is not one feed that works for everyone. Just like a diet doesn't work for all people. No need to bash a feed if it doesn't work for your horses. Everyone's setup is different. TE seems to be a great feed in Texas, but it was designed with the state's setup in mind (that's my guess). So that may be why it doesn't work elsewhere. Also, since it is made here, our costs for it aren't near as high as other parts of the country. |
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Location: Got Lobsta? | I just started my horse on it and he LOVES it. All the other horses I gave a handful too and my oldest which has been leaving his Senior grain behind ate it up. I had to find a feed with no flax and molasses. I will go through this and see how he does to decide if it works. We have Timothy mix up in our area. I've read the feed posts and everyone is passionate about the feed they choose. Its just gets a little nerve wracking when its turns ugley. *referring to past posts* I feed 3 different brands that work on 5 different horses. Like people, not all horses are alike in what their bodies need/require. |
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| aggiejudger - 2014-05-06 7:42 AM GWR - 2014-05-05 11:41 PM aggiejudger - 2014-05-05 1:36 PM GWR - 2014-05-05 3:28 PM We fed one horse TE for about 2 months this spring. We fed the recommended amount. He didn't do very well on it. We went back to Ultium. On the Ultium he fills out really nice and we didn't notice that on the TE. We usually don't feed grain in the winter, so it was a good experiment to go from no grain for about 4 months to trying something totally different.
Couple questions and I guess comments about it...wasn't it developed in Texas? And isn't the main ingredient alfalfa hay? The reason I ask is that in the NW we have access to great alfalfa and orchard grass hay. We feed a quality mix, so my expectation of this feed doing anything spectatular for us maybe too high.
Also, what is everyone feeding with this? Wouldn't how well versus not well a horse does on it be impacted by what else is fed? For example, me feeding it with a good alfalfa/orchard grass mix with no other supplements would be different than someone only feeding TE and coastal grass or someone feeding TE, some kind of hay, and adding in a supplement such as Pureform or Platinum. Not trying to tear down anyone...just enjoy these types of discussions.
The main hay grown in Texas is coastal, which is a bermuda grass. As far as nutritional content goes, it's not great hay. We feed coastal more for the roughage and the fiber. That may be why all our horses have done well on TE. We also didn't have hard keepers or anything to begin with. All our geldings were fine prior to it, but seem to look better on it.
Like all feeds, I think it works for some and not others. And it may work better for horses that only have access to poorer quality hay.
I truly believe there is not one feed that works for everyone. Just like a diet doesn't work for all people. No need to bash a feed if it doesn't work for your horses. Everyone's setup is different. TE seems to be a great feed in Texas, but it was designed with the state's setup in mind (that's my guess). So that may be why it doesn't work elsewhere. Also, since it is made here, our costs for it aren't near as high as other parts of the country.
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Location: Big Sky Country | CBGalaxy - 2014-05-01 10:05 PM I just got 4 more bags. My mare that I just could NOT get to fill out now looks amazing! She also went from 4D to 1/2D. I have not had any problems with her dropping weight at all. The bags I just got yesterday do seem to have smaller pellets, but I think that is good. My mare doesn't lose any that way! Smaller pellets doesn't hurt anything the weight of the bag is the same. I just started my gelding on it too. They are OBSESSED with it. It still smells sweet to me like the bags before. I am sure it is like anything else it doesn't work for every horse. I would also check the hay your feeding, water content (if you are having calcium problems) and other supplements. The only thing I'd like to take out of TE is the sugar. I avoid sugar and corn in any feed. I am sure we are all crazy horse ladies/guys here and have our preferences though! lol
The second ingredient is CORN so you are feeding corn, just so you know.
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| Total Equine has added a new mill in California. Lots of people are commenting that the recipe has changed. I wonder if that could have anything to do with the change. California and Arizona alfalfa is very different than Texas alfalfa. |
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| I'm well aware but thanks for pointing that out anyway Donkey Jockey. I try to avoid corn as much as possible. In this case TE worked so well for my horse that I don't care. Actually, it is the only feed I have ever fed with corn. I don't grain/etc. and never have. I think it is important to remember if you get to hung up on certain things it won't do you any good and probably doesn't make much sense. If it works for your horse, it works for your horse end of story. For me anyway. |
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Location: Lost in Texas | Bales Hay - 2014-05-31 12:16 PM
Total Equine has added a new mill in California. Lots of people are commenting that the recipe has changed. I wonder if that could have anything to do with the change. California and Arizona alfalfa is very different than Texas alfalfa.
It's not Texas alfalfa it's made from.. The feed is made from alfalfa in Utah, that's cubed there for Hay Rite. Hay Rite has a location in Weatherford, Tx, about a hour from the mill that makes the total equine. Yes, TE buys their alfalfa from hay rite. My parents are dealers for both TE and now hay rite.. They pick up their feed at both places themselves.. Many times you'll find one of the guys that developed TE in the hay rite office. Hay Rite now makes a feed that's very comparable to TE.. But without corn and by products like wheat middlings, ect. It's also cheaper for a 50# sack. Most of my parents customers switched over.. I didn't like how any of mine looked on TE, but they all look amazing on Hay Rites feed.
Edited by CaughtYawl 2014-06-01 10:07 AM
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Location: Beggs, OK | Bales Hay - 2014-05-31 12:16 PM Total Equine has added a new mill in California. Lots of people are commenting that the recipe has changed. I wonder if that could have anything to do with the change. California and Arizona alfalfa is very different than Texas alfalfa.
Does anyone know who mills Total Equine Feed? Do they have their own facilities? |
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Maine-iac
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Location: Got Lobsta? | We used to sell it and I tried to get the information but was always told "its from a mill down south and that they make some batches at a time". We stopped carrying the feed before all the information that was revealed later about mills. Wish I could be of more help. |
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| I had fed my horse Total Equine for almost 2 years (only horse I fed it too) it helped with bad feet. This summer my horse stopped sweating, hair became dry and burnt feeling, I hadnt changed anything so I started dark beer and it helped some but still not normal. I sent a mane analysis off to Simply Equine and she told me that my horse had something synthetic in it body that was shutting glands down (the gland that produces sweat and oils for hair) and she asked me about my horse' daily routine and it was determined that TE was the cause of the sweating and poor coat problems from the type of corn that is used to make TE. Took my horse off Total Equine and put it on the Herbs recommended by Simply Equine and now we have no problems with sweating and hair coat is normal deep rich color. |
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| CaughtYawl - 2014-06-01 10:06 AM
Bales Hay - 2014-05-31 12:16 PM
Total Equine has added a new mill in California. Lots of people are commenting that the recipe has changed. I wonder if that could have anything to do with the change. California and Arizona alfalfa is very different than Texas alfalfa.
It's not Texas alfalfa it's made from.. The feed is made from alfalfa in Utah, that's cubed there for Hay Rite. Hay Rite has a location in Weatherford, Tx, about a hour from the mill that makes the total equine. Yes, TE buys their alfalfa from hay rite. My parents are dealers for both TE and now hay rite.. They pick up their feed at both places themselves.. Many times you'll find one of the guys that developed TE in the hay rite office. Hay Rite now makes a feed that's very comparable to TE.. But without corn and by products like wheat middlings, ect. It's also cheaper for a 50# sack. Most of my parents customers switched over.. I didn't like how any of mine looked on TE, but they all look amazing on Hay Rites feed.
I have fed TE in the past and liked it ok. What is exactly is hayright and is it only in TX? Is it similar to the Omni cubes on here (I called them and they don't have a dealer near me). I can only find cubes that are just hay in my area, so far. |
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| aggiejudger - 2014-05-05 3:36 PM GWR - 2014-05-05 3:28 PM We fed one horse TE for about 2 months this spring. We fed the recommended amount. He didn't do very well on it. We went back to Ultium. On the Ultium he fills out really nice and we didn't notice that on the TE. We usually don't feed grain in the winter, so it was a good experiment to go from no grain for about 4 months to trying something totally different.
Couple questions and I guess comments about it...wasn't it developed in Texas? And isn't the main ingredient alfalfa hay? The reason I ask is that in the NW we have access to great alfalfa and orchard grass hay. We feed a quality mix, so my expectation of this feed doing anything spectatular for us maybe too high.
Also, what is everyone feeding with this? Wouldn't how well versus not well a horse does on it be impacted by what else is fed? For example, me feeding it with a good alfalfa/orchard grass mix with no other supplements would be different than someone only feeding TE and coastal grass or someone feeding TE, some kind of hay, and adding in a supplement such as Pureform or Platinum. Not trying to tear down anyone...just enjoy these types of discussions.
The main hay grown in Texas is coastal, which is a bermuda grass. As far as nutritional content goes, it's not great hay. We feed coastal more for the roughage and the fiber. That may be why all our horses have done well on TE. We also didn't have hard keepers or anything to begin with. All our geldings were fine prior to it, but seem to look better on it.
Like all feeds, I think it works for some and not others. And it may work better for horses that only have access to poorer quality hay.
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Location: Carpenter, WY | I'm generally not a fan of many of the supplements and actually the only thing besides hay we buy is T E. I've had 32 year old Teehaha on it for a few years now and she looks and feels great. She gets a soaked scoop in the morning and one at night and gums it down without any waste. She was even out there bucking yesterday as she ran around. Whatever is in it definitely is helping her maintain weight and keeping the grand old lady feeling fiesty. |
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| Bibliafarm - 2014-05-06 6:05 AM amy laymon - 2014-05-06 9:01 AM When I read threads like this all I think of is how many horses have hock issues caused by bone overgrowth. In other words spurs etc. To much calcium versus phosphorus and magnesium. Feeding a feed with this much alfalfa equates to a lot of calcium?? I haven't seen the label. Then if your feeding alfalfa hay on top of it. Vets sure like it when people run in to get injections all the time though. That is a Unfair statement . I think its far from the truth. Vets know its a risk of infection and dont promote injections and in fact most will not do them unless called for the comfort of horse.
eta: and Utah and Colorado....
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Location: Beggs, OK | CaughtYawl - 2014-06-01 10:06 AM Bales Hay - 2014-05-31 12:16 PM Total Equine has added a new mill in California. Lots of people are commenting that the recipe has changed. I wonder if that could have anything to do with the change. California and Arizona alfalfa is very different than Texas alfalfa. It's not Texas alfalfa it's made from.. The feed is made from alfalfa in Utah, that's cubed there for Hay Rite. Hay Rite has a location in Weatherford, Tx, about a hour from the mill that makes the total equine. Yes, TE buys their alfalfa from hay rite. My parents are dealers for both TE and now hay rite.. They pick up their feed at both places themselves.. Many times you'll find one of the guys that developed TE in the hay rite office. Hay Rite now makes a feed that's very comparable to TE.. But without corn and by products like wheat middlings, ect. It's also cheaper for a 50# sack. Most of my parents customers switched over.. I didn't like how any of mine looked on TE, but they all look amazing on Hay Rites feed.
It's interesting that TE would be made out of processed alfalfa... If it's baled and then cubed and then made into an extruded feed, you'd have to wonder what the nutritional value would be at the end?
I still haven't figured out where it's being milled. TE only lists a PO Box address and the physical address is a home. |
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Location: Beggs, OK | Got it. TE says their feed is milled here:
https://muenstermilling.com/ |
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boon
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| Yes, it is milled in Muenster, TX. We are getting a shipment tomorrow from there. We have been dealers for years and have good success with the feed. |
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 No Name Nancy
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Location: never in the right place | SG. - 2014-03-21 12:12 AM Trying something new :) I think my horses are happier too Standlee
so SG you only feed hay pellets and grass/baled hay? |
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Location: Beggs, OK | ctdrumrunr - 2015-12-02 3:40 PM SG. - 2014-03-21 12:12 AM Trying something new :) I think my horses are happier too Standlee so SG you only feed hay pellets and grass/baled hay?
She's feeding Omnis Cubes now. This is an old thread that I bumped up to get some information. |
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| I started mixing my own from feed that I know is from ionophore free mills. Oats, Barkley, beet pulp shreds and Timothy pellets. My hay has a high alfalfa content, hence the Timothy. If I was feeding mainly grass, I would swap out the timothy for alfalfa. I'm adding THE for the vitamin and a trace mineral salt. So far my results have been outstanding. |
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Location: Bama | http://alabamahorsetalk.com/equinenutritiontips/
Total Equine is produced in two locations:
In Texas
In Alabama at AFC’s Demopolis mill
I don't know if this is correct, but it may give you more info for researching. My feed dealer today did tell me it came out of Alabama, because I was asking about the low starch version. |
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No Name Nancy
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Location: never in the right place | rachellyn80 - 2015-12-02 4:41 PM ctdrumrunr - 2015-12-02 3:40 PM SG. - 2014-03-21 12:12 AM Trying something new :) I think my horses are happier too Standlee so SG you only feed hay pellets and grass/baled hay?
thanks I didn't look at the dates
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