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Can I get some "cow lines" that have proven themselves in barrels?
Longneck
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2014-03-24 10:53 AM
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Can be a cow line crossed with a barrel or race bred horse... just curious as to what some good cow lines are that have been in the barrel pen.
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casualdust07
Reg. Mar 2005
Posted 2014-03-24 11:00 AM
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I've seen several shining spark grand get do well in the barrels.
Nonobadgirl has done really well breeding her Docs Superstar bar mares to make phenomenal barrel horses
Genuine Doc is another good line I've seen.
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koi322
Reg. Jul 2010
Posted 2014-03-24 11:14 AM
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Vanilas Whiskey Girl:
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www.allbreedpedigree.com/vanilas+whiskey+girl

Bring It On Guys:
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ETA, check out the pedigrees of these nice babies: http://www.frenchmansquarterhorses.com/ForSale_FQH.htm

Vanilas Whiskey Girl is by Paddys Irish Whiskey, Bring It On Guys is out of a daughter of Paddys Irish Whiskey, and several of the foals on Frenchmans Quarter Horses' website have Paddys Irish Whiskey blood.

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smrowdy
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-03-24 11:14 AM
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Doc Olena
Docs Hickory
Doc Bar/Leo bred
Have had nice horses with these blood lines that could flat out run and turn!
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FlyingJT
Reg. Jan 2014
Posted 2014-03-24 11:17 AM
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Peppy San Badger
Matts King
Harlan

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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2014-03-24 11:39 AM
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There are two Royal Fletch horses in my area that are very nice 1D supershow/rodeo horses. Here's an article BHN did about cow-bred horses succeeding at barrels. http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/articles/rodeo/3553-a-cut-above


I wish I could get my hands on a Highbrow Cat, but all the really nice ones go to the cutting pen. Anyone know of any running barrels?
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Longneck
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2014-03-24 11:44 AM
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BamaCanChaser - 2014-03-24 11:39 AM There are two Royal Fletch horses in my area that are very nice 1D supershow/rodeo horses. Here's an article BHN did about cow-bred horses succeeding at barrels. http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/articles/rodeo/3553-a-cut-above I wish I could get my hands on a Highbrow Cat, but all the really nice ones go to the cutting pen. Anyone know of any running barrels?

Very interesting article, thanks!


Keep 'em coming, everyone!  Very interesting! 
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sorrel horse ranch
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-03-24 11:45 AM
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I thought my stud was awesome....of course that was my opinion.
His sire was Streakin Six and he was out of an own daughter of Genuine Doc which had previously owned by Matlock Rose so she had been cut on.

 
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2014-03-24 11:48 AM
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I'm really big into two eyed jack, jackie bee, peptoboonsmal and high brow cat. I avoid hancock bred horses. I'm breeding my mare to a peptoboonsmal bred stallion on the time side and he goes back to lady bugs moon on the bottom. I'm very excited!!! 
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Reg. Aug 2013
Posted 2014-03-24 12:26 PM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2014-03-24 11:48 AM

I'm really big into two eyed jack, jackie bee, peptoboonsmal and high brow cat. I avoid hancock bred horses. I'm breeding my mare to a peptoboonsmal bred stallion on the time side and he goes back to lady bugs moon on the bottom. I'm very excited!!! 

You can't go wrong with a good Peptoboonsmal or High Brow Cat ... those lines consistently throw athletic, sound, good feet/legs, and fabulous minds. These horses are showing in many different pens with consistent wins.

My filly is Pepto on the top and Two Eyed Jack on the bottom. Big, smooth, and SOUND with color and a great mind. I'd have a whole barn full.
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luvrdeo
Reg. Mar 2012
Posted 2014-03-24 12:29 PM
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Docs Hickory, Docs Stylish Oak - love mine with that breeding! He's solid.
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ksbarrelchick
Reg. Dec 2004
Posted 2014-03-24 3:22 PM
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Both of my horse's are double bred Doc's Prescription and I love them!  They can be a little hot and stubborn but very smart and athletic, good bone and size to them too.  I actually searched for another double Doc's Prescription when I started looking.
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2014-03-24 3:25 PM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2014-03-24 11:48 AM I'm really big into two eyed jack, jackie bee, peptoboonsmal and high brow cat. I avoid hancock bred horses. I'm breeding my mare to a peptoboonsmal bred stallion on the time side and he goes back to lady bugs moon on the bottom. I'm very excited!!! 
You can't go wrong with a good Peptoboonsmal or High Brow Cat ... those lines consistently throw athletic, sound, good feet/legs, and fabulous minds. These horses are showing in many different pens with consistent wins. My filly is Pepto on the top and Two Eyed Jack on the bottom. Big, smooth, and SOUND with color and a great mind. I'd have a whole barn full.

I agree 100%!!!! The ones I've ridden, I've fallen in love with. I don't have the $$$ to spend on them since the price tag is normally triple what I can afford LOL.

The stallion is a sorrel, and my mare is a blue roan....I'm hoping I'll get some color! 
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GWR
Reg. Jan 2006
Posted 2014-03-24 3:28 PM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2014-03-24 9:48 AM I'm really big into two eyed jack, jackie bee, peptoboonsmal and high brow cat. I avoid hancock bred horses. I'm breeding my mare to a peptoboonsmal bred stallion on the time side and he goes back to lady bugs moon on the bottom. I'm very excited!!! 

Just out of curosity, why do you stay away from Hancock bred horses?  

Genunine Doc and Docs Superstar Bar horses have proven to be good ones.   
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hoofs_in_motion
Reg. Apr 2011
Posted 2014-03-24 3:35 PM
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GWR - 2014-03-24 3:28 PM
hoofs_in_motion - 2014-03-24 9:48 AM I'm really big into two eyed jack, jackie bee, peptoboonsmal and high brow cat. I avoid hancock bred horses. I'm breeding my mare to a peptoboonsmal bred stallion on the time side and he goes back to lady bugs moon on the bottom. I'm very excited!!! 
Just out of curosity, why do you stay away from Hancock bred horses?  



Genunine Doc and Docs Superstar Bar horses have proven to be good ones.   

When I had a 3 year old hancock bred filly attempt to kill me, and she broke the trainers arm....I've always been leery about them, but I wouldn't pass one by if it was good looking and super broke 
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Whiteboy
Reg. Jul 2012
Posted 2014-03-24 3:35 PM
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I think this "Cow Line" is probably the most under-rated.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ePbMbkX_g  
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CowboyUp!!!
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2014-03-24 3:36 PM
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CowboyUp!!!
Reg. Aug 2004
Posted 2014-03-24 3:37 PM
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dianeguinn
Reg. Oct 2003
Posted 2014-03-24 3:43 PM
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Well, I've come over to the dark side....I was one of the Hancock haters, but I bought a gorgeous 3 yr old bay roan that is out of an AWESOME race mare and he is one of the gentlest, smartest, most athletic horses I've ever owned. I just bought him to resell, but I'm liking him so much, I think he may have to stay at the Guinn house for awhile. www.allbreedpedigree.com/rafter+jet+jud
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Longneck
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2014-03-24 3:48 PM
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Whiteboy - 2014-03-24 3:35 PM I think this "Cow Line" is probably the most under-rated.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ePbMbkX_g  



Barrel horse & Bronc!  Thanks for sharing! 
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Longneck
Reg. Mar 2004
Posted 2014-03-24 3:50 PM
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BamaCanChaser - 2014-03-24 11:39 AM There are two Royal Fletch horses in my area that are very nice 1D supershow/rodeo horses. Here's an article BHN did about cow-bred horses succeeding at barrels. http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/articles/rodeo/3553-a-cut-above I wish I could get my hands on a Highbrow Cat, but all the really nice ones go to the cutting pen. Anyone know of any running barrels?

I found a colt (assuming unbroke) on CL I can PM you if you'd like! 
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quikchik
Reg. Jun 2007
Posted 2014-03-24 4:08 PM
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BamaCanChaser - 2014-03-24 12:39 PM

There are two Royal Fletch horses in my area that are very nice 1D supershow/rodeo horses. Here's an article BHN did about cow-bred horses succeeding at barrels. http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/articles/rodeo/3553-a-cut-above


I wish I could get my hands on a Highbrow Cat, but all the really nice ones go to the cutting pen. Anyone know of any running barrels?

I was going to mention Especial - he is in the article a lot.
My mare has Especial, he has a lot of get & grandget in the barrel pen.
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OregonBR
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-03-24 4:27 PM
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One of the greatest barrel horses running right now is by Biebers Oakie (Double bred Doc Bar and Poco Tivio) out of a race mare by Judge Cash.  http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/an+oakie+with+cash 
 
 
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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-03-24 4:36 PM
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ksbarrelchick - 2014-03-24 3:22 PM

Both of my horse's are double bred Doc's Prescription and I love them!  They can be a little hot and stubborn but very smart and athletic, good bone and size to them too.  I actually searched for another double Doc's Prescription when I started looking.

Couldnt agree more! I ran two docs prescription grandbabies and both were phenominal and proved themselves well in the AQHA and rodeo scenes in the 90s. A offspring of one mentioed ones AQHA world and congress. She was docs prescription x organ grinder (peppy san) bred.
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Reg. Apr 2009
Posted 2014-03-24 4:36 PM
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From what I have seen, rode, and heard, for best results if you are going to cross race on cow for a barrel prospect, breed a race bred mare to a cow bred stud.
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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-03-24 4:37 PM
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ksbarrelchick - 2014-03-24 3:22 PM

Both of my horse's are double bred Doc's Prescription and I love them!  They can be a little hot and stubborn but very smart and athletic, good bone and size to them too.  I actually searched for another double Doc's Prescription when I started looking.

Couldnt agree more! I ran two docs prescription grandbabies and both were phenominal and proved themselves well in the AQHA and rodeo scenes in the 90s. A offspring of one mentioed ones AQHA world and congress. She was docs prescription x organ grinder (peppy san) bred.

Also forgot to mention Mighty Mouse was out of the stud I am referring to. She won the IFR I wanna say?
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Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2014-03-24 5:31 PM
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I had a really nice Peppy San Badger Mare that ran 1D times at super shows and did awesome in High School Rodeos
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Reg. Aug 2007
Posted 2014-03-24 5:51 PM
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I like freckles playboy. I have a cowbred mare now that's peppy san and some old three bars shes 2d-3d
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rockinas
Reg. Sep 2003
Posted 2014-03-24 6:42 PM
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 I've had excellent luck with the Docs Jack Frost lines---Docs Jack Frost is the sire of Sun Frost and Doc Bruce and of course Sun Frost being the sire of Frenchmans Guy, I absolutely love the FG horses.

I am also a huge fan of anything Peppy San, Peponita, Peppy San Badger (Paddys Irish Whiskey is a son of Peppy San Badger).
Doc's Oak, Docs Hickory, and Miss N Cash.

I've had several really nice cutting bred barrel horses in the past.  Most recently I've switched over to race breeding because they seem to sell better (for me) but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for a cow horse.
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Reg. Sep 2009
Posted 2014-03-24 6:43 PM
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BamaCanChaser - 2014-03-24 11:39 AM There are two Royal Fletch horses in my area that are very nice 1D supershow/rodeo horses. Here's an article BHN did about cow-bred horses succeeding at barrels. http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/articles/rodeo/3553-a-cut-above I wish I could get my hands on a Highbrow Cat, but all the really nice ones go to the cutting pen. Anyone know of any running barrels?

Interesting read. My colt has similar breeding to Diane's horse referenced in the article on his bottom side and Mighty Mouse on his top. May be when he can breath this year he will show me he can get it too! 
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koi322
Reg. Jul 2010
Posted 2014-03-24 8:05 PM
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rockinas - 2014-03-24 7:42 PM

 I've had excellent luck with the Docs Jack Frost lines---Docs Jack Frost is the sire of Sun Frost and Doc Bruce and of course Sun Frost being the sire of Frenchmans Guy, I absolutely love the FG horses.

I am also a huge fan of anything Peppy San, Peponita, Peppy San Badger (Paddys Irish Whiskey is a son of Peppy San Badger).
Doc's Oak, Docs Hickory, and Miss N Cash.

I've had several really nice cutting bred barrel horses in the past.  Most recently I've switched over to race breeding because they seem to sell better (for me) but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for a cow horse.

LOVE both your stallions, especially Pablo :)
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Reg. Oct 2011
Posted 2014-03-24 8:16 PM
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I have 1 cowbred mare and she is very consistent making 3D times with only a year of training and a handful of hauling. And she's very nicely built with a nice front and back end on her. She has two-eyed Jack and Jackie Bee top and bottom and everyone gives me complements on her. Vey well minded horse and great all around. I've beaten top notch western pleasure horses at some of our big local shows and she's my barrel horse. The western pleasure people always say barrel horses are crazy but I show them that not all of them are it's just the way their trained and she's knows the difference between a run and a horse show. She's bred this year so can't wait to see how the baby turns out. Should be born the first part of December.
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rachellyn80
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2014-03-24 8:24 PM
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BamaCanChaser - 2014-03-24 11:39 AM There are two Royal Fletch horses in my area that are very nice 1D supershow/rodeo horses. Here's an article BHN did about cow-bred horses succeeding at barrels. http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/articles/rodeo/3553-a-cut-above I wish I could get my hands on a Highbrow Cat, but all the really nice ones go to the cutting pen. Anyone know of any running barrels?

I have a 5 yr old full sister to one of the Fletch mares you're talking about.  Our little mare "Hotbox" looks just like "Ditto".  They are super fun little horses.  We love Royal Fletch and you can breed a Docs Stylish Oak mare to just about anything and get a nice colt.
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Reg. Jan 2006
Posted 2014-03-24 8:38 PM
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rockinas - 2014-03-24 6:42 PM  I've had excellent luck with the Docs Jack Frost lines---Docs Jack Frost is the sire of Sun Frost and Doc Bruce and of course Sun Frost being the sire of Frenchmans Guy, I absolutely love the FG horses.



I am also a huge fan of anything Peppy San, Peponita, Peppy San Badger (Paddys Irish Whiskey is a son of Peppy San Badger).

Doc's Oak, Docs Hickory, and Miss N Cash.



I've had several really nice cutting bred barrel horses in the past.  Most recently I've switched over to race breeding because they seem to sell better (for me) but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for a cow horse.

To me the biggest debate about the most influential barrel horse sire in the north would be,  is it Docs Jack Frost, his son Sun Frost or his g-son Frenchmans Guy.

We have a 5 year old by a Real Gun son and so far she is super easy to get along with, trainable and talented.  We really like watching the Playguns work, the Freckles Playboy in the pedigrees seem to transfer to the barrels pretty well.
 
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Reg. Aug 2009
Posted 2014-03-24 10:17 PM
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Shining Spark out of a Zan Parr Bar mare, I've ridden three that were super talented.
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Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-03-24 10:20 PM
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dianeguinn - 2014-03-24 2:43 PM Well, I've come over to the dark side....I was one of the Hancock haters, but I bought a gorgeous 3 yr old bay roan that is out of an AWESOME race mare and he is one of the gentlest, smartest, most athletic horses I've ever owned. I just bought him to resell, but I'm liking him so much, I think he may have to stay at the Guinn house for awhile. www.allbreedpedigree.com/rafter+jet+jud

There are some really good ones out there

 
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Posted 2014-03-24 10:27 PM
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hoofs_in_motion - 2014-03-24 9:48 AM I'm really big into two eyed jack, jackie bee, peptoboonsmal and high brow cat. I avoid hancock bred horses. I'm breeding my mare to a peptoboonsmal bred stallion on the time side and he goes back to lady bugs moon on the bottom. I'm very excited!!! 
Just out of curosity, why do you stay away from Hancock bred horses?  



Genunine Doc and Docs Superstar Bar horses have proven to be good ones.   
When I had a 3 year old hancock bred filly attempt to kill me, and she broke the trainers arm....I've always been leery about them, but I wouldn't pass one by if it was good looking and super broke 

 Well I can understand you being leery now!  They are really tough and gritty horses. I think that's what makes the good ones good. Some of the toughest horses we've had in the NW go back to Hancock. 
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Posted 2014-03-24 10:42 PM
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BamaCanChaser - 2014-03-24 11:39 AM

There are two Royal Fletch horses in my area that are very nice 1D supershow/rodeo horses. Here's an article BHN did about cow-bred horses succeeding at barrels. http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/articles/rodeo/3553-a-cut-above


I wish I could get my hands on a Highbrow Cat, but all the really nice ones go to the cutting pen. Anyone know of any running barrels?

I have a friend in FL who is running a VERY nice, young High Brow Cat that came from Jud Little's that is amazing. He's still running a bit green and winning tougher jackpots.
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Posted 2014-03-24 11:33 PM
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BamaCanChaser - 2014-03-24 11:39 AM

There are two Royal Fletch horses in my area that are very nice 1D supershow/rodeo horses. Here's an article BHN did about cow-bred horses succeeding at barrels. http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/articles/rodeo/3553-a-cut-above


I wish I could get my hands on a Highbrow Cat, but all the really nice ones go to the cutting pen. Anyone know of any running barrels?

My gelding is High Brow cat bred and he is 1D. He is wicked in his turns. He is 2D is big pens. His little legs just cant move fast enough lol

Put him a small pen and he is unbeatable.
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Reg. Jan 2007
Posted 2014-03-25 12:01 AM
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I love cowbreds! The lines I like are Freckles Playboy, Doc O Lena, Boon Bar and would love to try a Docs Superstar Bar. I just got a new gelding in thats a grandson of Highbrow Cat and Freckles Merada. I'm loving him so far - he's big hippef, long strided and fast!http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/cats+call+me+elvis.
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Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2014-03-25 7:22 AM
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One by Sweet Little Pepto out of a Highbrow Cat mare made the finals at Diamonds and Dirt last weekend.  
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Reg. May 2004
Posted 2014-03-25 7:46 AM
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Anything with Doc Bar on its papers in any shape or form interests me.  I have tried the straight race breds...just not for me and Im getting back to my roots!!  Race and cow is the perfect mix.  Louie is my favorite example as he is downright perfect!!!   

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rockinas - 2014-03-24 6:42 PM  I've had excellent luck with the Docs Jack Frost lines---Docs Jack Frost is the sire of Sun Frost and Doc Bruce and of course Sun Frost being the sire of Frenchmans Guy, I absolutely love the FG horses.



I am also a huge fan of anything Peppy San, Peponita, Peppy San Badger (Paddys Irish Whiskey is a son of Peppy San Badger).

Doc's Oak, Docs Hickory, and Miss N Cash.



I've had several really nice cutting bred barrel horses in the past.  Most recently I've switched over to race breeding because they seem to sell better (for me) but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for a cow horse.
To me the biggest debate about the most influential barrel horse sire in the north would be,  is it Docs Jack Frost, his son Sun Frost or his g-son Frenchmans Guy.



We have a 5 year old by a Real Gun son and so far she is super easy to get along with, trainable and talented.  We really like watching the Playguns work, the Freckles Playboy in the pedigrees seem to transfer to the barrels pretty well.
 

To me its Docs Jack Frost.  He doesn't get a lot of credit IMO.  Everyone looks beyond him but he was the start to a huge line of great horses in the north.  I'm like Amy.  I have a huge soft spot in my heart for those old lines.  
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Whiteboy - 2014-03-24 3:35 PM I think this "Cow Line" is probably the most under-rated.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ePbMbkX_g  

 That sucker sure does cow a barrel.  Thanks for posting that.
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rockinas - 2014-03-24 6:42 PM  I've had excellent luck with the Docs Jack Frost lines---Docs Jack Frost is the sire of Sun Frost and Doc Bruce and of course Sun Frost being the sire of Frenchmans Guy, I absolutely love the FG horses.



I am also a huge fan of anything Peppy San, Peponita, Peppy San Badger (Paddys Irish Whiskey is a son of Peppy San Badger).

Doc's Oak, Docs Hickory, and Miss N Cash.



I've had several really nice cutting bred barrel horses in the past.  Most recently I've switched over to race breeding because they seem to sell better (for me) but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for a cow horse.
To me the biggest debate about the most influential barrel horse sire in the north would be,  is it Docs Jack Frost, his son Sun Frost or his g-son Frenchmans Guy.



We have a 5 year old by a Real Gun son and so far she is super easy to get along with, trainable and talented.  We really like watching the Playguns work, the Freckles Playboy in the pedigrees seem to transfer to the barrels pretty well.
 
To me its Docs Jack Frost.  He doesn't get a lot of credit IMO.  Everyone looks beyond him but he was the start to a huge line of great horses in the north.  I'm like Amy.  I have a huge soft spot in my heart for those old lines.  

For me, Docs Jack Frost is a "What Could Have Been" kind of story. Stanley Johnston sold him to a syndicate in the early 80's---if he had lived out his whole life under Johnstons care, with the mare power he had, the sky could have been the limit. He is still a great one but I think he could have even been bigger. 
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rockinas - 2014-03-24 6:42 PM  I've had excellent luck with the Docs Jack Frost lines---Docs Jack Frost is the sire of Sun Frost and Doc Bruce and of course Sun Frost being the sire of Frenchmans Guy, I absolutely love the FG horses.



I am also a huge fan of anything Peppy San, Peponita, Peppy San Badger (Paddys Irish Whiskey is a son of Peppy San Badger).

Doc's Oak, Docs Hickory, and Miss N Cash.



I've had several really nice cutting bred barrel horses in the past.  Most recently I've switched over to race breeding because they seem to sell better (for me) but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for a cow horse.
To me the biggest debate about the most influential barrel horse sire in the north would be,  is it Docs Jack Frost, his son Sun Frost or his g-son Frenchmans Guy.



We have a 5 year old by a Real Gun son and so far she is super easy to get along with, trainable and talented.  We really like watching the Playguns work, the Freckles Playboy in the pedigrees seem to transfer to the barrels pretty well.
 
To me its Docs Jack Frost.  He doesn't get a lot of credit IMO.  Everyone looks beyond him but he was the start to a huge line of great horses in the north.  I'm like Amy.  I have a huge soft spot in my heart for those old lines.  
For me, Docs Jack Frost is a "What Could Have Been" kind of story. Stanley Johnston sold him to a syndicate in the early 80's---if he had lived out his whole life under Johnstons care, with the mare power he had, the sky could have been the limit. He is still a great one but I think he could have even been bigger. 

One of those woulda coulda shoulda type deals.  Hind sight is 20/20 and yes he could have made a much bigger impact.  I'm proud to have him on many of my horses papers.  
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FlyinByU - 2014-03-25 12:01 AM

I love cowbreds! The lines I like are Freckles Playboy, Doc O Lena, Boon Bar and would love to try a Docs Superstar Bar. I just got a new gelding in thats a grandson of Highbrow Cat and Freckles Merada. I'm loving him so far - he's big hippef, long strided and fast!http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/cats+call+me+elvis.

Very nice. Love High Brow Cat and Freckles Merada.
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rockinas - 2014-03-24 6:42 PM  I've had excellent luck with the Docs Jack Frost lines---Docs Jack Frost is the sire of Sun Frost and Doc Bruce and of course Sun Frost being the sire of Frenchmans Guy, I absolutely love the FG horses.



I am also a huge fan of anything Peppy San, Peponita, Peppy San Badger (Paddys Irish Whiskey is a son of Peppy San Badger).

Doc's Oak, Docs Hickory, and Miss N Cash.



I've had several really nice cutting bred barrel horses in the past.  Most recently I've switched over to race breeding because they seem to sell better (for me) but I will always have a soft spot in my heart for a cow horse.
To me the biggest debate about the most influential barrel horse sire in the north would be,  is it Docs Jack Frost, his son Sun Frost or his g-son Frenchmans Guy.



We have a 5 year old by a Real Gun son and so far she is super easy to get along with, trainable and talented.  We really like watching the Playguns work, the Freckles Playboy in the pedigrees seem to transfer to the barrels pretty well.
 
To me its Docs Jack Frost.  He doesn't get a lot of credit IMO.  Everyone looks beyond him but he was the start to a huge line of great horses in the north.  I'm like Amy.  I have a huge soft spot in my heart for those old lines.  
For me, Docs Jack Frost is a "What Could Have Been" kind of story. Stanley Johnston sold him to a syndicate in the early 80's---if he had lived out his whole life under Johnstons care, with the mare power he had, the sky could have been the limit. He is still a great one but I think he could have even been bigger. 
One of those woulda coulda shoulda type deals.  Hind sight is 20/20 and yes he could have made a much bigger impact.  I'm proud to have him on many of my horses papers.  

I am also a HUGE fan. 
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Doc O Dynamite's are proven.
 
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I am also a huge fan of Hancock horses but they have to be brought on very slow and be one person hands on horses . My red colt from cross spur is the best riding horse in town . .
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I grew up riding cow or ranch bred horses but somewhere along the line, got away from them.  Well, I'm back.  I just lost a 5 year old who was Blue Valentine on top and Driftwood (Drifts Chip) on bottom.  He reminded me why I love that type of horse.  I just bought a 3 year old to start who is Dash For Perks and Sunfrost on top and Freckles Playboy, Doc Bar (Docs Last Chance) and King Glo on bottom.  After just a handful of rides, I love him.  Very smart, trainable, quick footed and willing.  I'm excited to see what he will be. 
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Whiteboy - 2014-03-24 3:35 PM I think this "Cow Line" is probably the most under-rated.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ePbMbkX_g  
 That sucker sure does cow a barrel.  Thanks for posting that.

I think his hocks are bothering him.  
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I am going to say that I had a Peptoboonsmal grandgit-was a good horse, but was SLOW and took a while to come on.

Her heart was not really with running, but boy did she LOVE to turn. If I knew anything about cows I would have made her a cutter because I feel like she really had a natural ability for that.

I probably would not go for another Peptoboonsmal, but would go for a Reminic or Peppy San Badger. I had some luck with those cow lines with my first barrel horse. She ended up being a great youth/beginner barrel horse and that was what we sold her as.
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Love my 3 year old filly by Bucks Hancock Dude. Bought her six months ago, and everything about her has impressed me. She is so calm and patient. Knowing that I am going to saddle and work her past a sweat, she will still run from the front pasture when she sees me at the gate with her halter. Will she make a great barrel horse? Who knows!
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The Gelding im running now is all cow

On the top he is a grandson of peppysan badger and down the line Doc o'lena
the mare is all Foundation, on her papers she has King and Wimpy, and just off her papers one generation she has Leo

He is a pretty cool horse, Gritty, But can be on the lazy side. But I also own his Full Brother and he is the Complete opposite, Im just getting him going and he is alot of work tho, but once it all comes together he should finish out really cool!

They definatly eat up the barrels! I have a harder time getting them by them than running past!
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I have a gelding I run that's Freckles Playboy/Docbar top side and a Highbrow hickory/Okie leo bottom and I'd get a 1000 of them if I could lol
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hoofs_in_motion - 2014-03-24 9:48 AM I'm really big into two eyed jack, jackie bee, peptoboonsmal and high brow cat. I avoid hancock bred horses. I'm breeding my mare to a peptoboonsmal bred stallion on the time side and he goes back to lady bugs moon on the bottom. I'm very excited!!! 
Just out of curosity, why do you stay away from Hancock bred horses?  



Genunine Doc and Docs Superstar Bar horses have proven to be good ones.   
When I had a 3 year old hancock bred filly attempt to kill me, and she broke the trainers arm....I've always been leery about them, but I wouldn't pass one by if it was good looking and super broke 
 Well I can understand you being leery now!  They are really tough and gritty horses. I think that's what makes the good ones good. Some of the toughest horses we've had in the NW go back to Hancock. 

But don't get me wrong.....my jaw will still drop for hancock bred horse if they are shapey and a roan!!!  
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Here is a list of all time leading sires for barrel racing, it might help answer your question as to how the "cow lines" stack up against the "race lines" and everything in between. Full list is available at this link:
http://www.qhd.com/records/ranking.asp?ranktype=All-Time+Stallions&methodID=51

Rank Name of Stallion Equi-stat Number of Equi-stat Sire x Dam x Dam's Sire
BR Offspring $ Earners Avg. BR
LTE Offspr Earnings


#1 Dash Ta Fame $11,135,702 781 $14,258 (First Down Dash x Sudden Fame x Tiny's Gay)


#2 Frenchmans Guy $4,095,692 505 $8,110 (Sun Frost x Frenchman's Lady x Laughing Boy)


#3 On The Money Red $3,050,431 349 $8,740 (Bennie's Big Red x Dolly Priest x Little Dick Priest)


#4 Fire Water Flit $2,567,668 302 $8,502 (Flit Bar x Slash J Harletta x Harlan)


#5 Dash For Perks $2,502,323 319 $7,844 (Dash For Cash x Perks x Easy Jet)


#6 Jet Of Honor $2,026,503 294 $6,893 (Jet Deck x Quincy Liz x Lightning Bar)


#7 BULLY BULLION $1,989,064 342 $5,816 (Special Effort x Mary Poppins x Bond Issue)


#8 Dr Nick Bar $1,875,343 176 $10,655 (Flit Bar x Este Tag x LEO TAG)


#9 Marthas Six Moons $1,739,482 162 $10,738 (Six Fols x Lady Bugs Martha x LADY BUG'S MOON)


#10 Cash Not Credit $1,515,554 155 $9,778 (Dash For Cash x Cute And Sassy x Azure Te (TB))


#11 Designer Red $1,052,355 91 $11,564 (On The Money Red x Pin A Rose On Me x Mr Jet Magic)


#12 Packin Sixes $1,020,250 86 $11,863 (Streakin Six x Copasetti x Three Oh's)


#13 PC Frenchmans Hayday $981,050 54 $18,168 ( x x )


#14 Judge Cash $847,682 131 $6,471 (Dash For Cash x Mary Mito x Mito Paint (TB))


#15 A Streak Of Fling $844,193 112 $7,537 (Streakin Six x Moon Fling x Fast Fling)


#16 Sticks An Stones $774,005 138 $5,609 (Easy Jet x Hop Skip And Jump x Tiny Charger)


#17 Nonstop Jet $772,408 88 $8,777 (Jet Deck x Princess Dial x Johnny Dial)


#18 Flaming Talent $654,048 44 $14,865 (Flaming Jet x Hy Talent x Talent Bar)


#19 Alive N Firen $651,252 70 $9,304 (Fire Water Flit x Whichwitch S Witch x Bugs Alive in 75)


#20 Smoke N Sparks $620,068 92 $6,740 (Dash For Perks x Crazy Daisy x SHAWNE BUG)


#21 Blazin Jetolena $615,324 65 $9,467 (Lenas Sugar Daddy x Blazin Jennie Jet x Jet Of Honor)


#22 Panama Edition $592,285 90 $6,581 (Panama Jet x Mary Wanna x Crasher (TB))


#23 Biebers Oakie $569,366 5 $113,873 ( x x )


#24 Dashin Is Easy $555,529 35 $15,872 (Mitey Easy Dash x Queenies Dash x Man In The Money)


#25 Shilabar Gold $550,210 8 $68,776 (Gold Finger Bar x Shilee x Jim Nance)


#26 Hot Colours $534,091 83 $6,435 (Special Effort x Little ViVi Go x Chick's Deck)


#27 Dashin Elvis $531,574 54 $9,844 (Dash For Cash x Erie Legend (TB) x Lake Erie (TB))


#28 Leaving Memories $520,542 83 $6,272 (First Down Dash x Sweet Blush x Hempen (TB))


#29 Runnerelse $511,325 72 $7,102 (Magnolia Bar x Buck's St Pat x Buck's Bar None)


#30 Down Home Dash $504,285 87 $5,796 (Victory Dash x Dimples Up x )

 
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dianeguinn - 2014-03-24 3:43 PM Well, I've come over to the dark side....I was one of the Hancock haters, but I bought a gorgeous 3 yr old bay roan that is out of an AWESOME race mare and he is one of the gentlest, smartest, most athletic horses I've ever owned. I just bought him to resell, but I'm liking him so much, I think he may have to stay at the Guinn house for awhile. www.allbreedpedigree.com/rafter+jet+jud

lol.... Just cause I can, I had to quote this... ;) Welcome to the other side DG!  
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3 to go that information should be taken with a *.

* Most of those numbers don't have any rodeo winnings in them before the last couple of years where they are trying to include rodeo winnings.  They are missing all the small local races, amatuer rodeos and jackpots in the areas of the country that don't report to equistat.   
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NITAS WOOD- I have been training them for the last few years they can really run. Jackie Ganter was running "Woodys Wild Kiss"- he was a Nitas Wood. I am currently running one now and have more on the way.  
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Ditto to whoever said Doc O Dynamite... Part of why I bought a filly out of a Doc O Dynamite daughter, she is also by a Dual Peppy/Mr Gunsmoke stud who has sired some nice barrel horses around here. Now if only I can keep her from following in my other horse's footsteps and continuing to hurt herself she will be awesome! Hope to be running later this year, she is a quick footed thing that turns out from under me trotting... Lol.
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 Just curious. I have a grand daughter of Smart Chica Lena out of a daughter of Son of a Doc. She looks like she would make a barrel horse. What do yall think?
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BamaCanChaser - 2014-03-24 11:39 AM There are two Royal Fletch horses in my area that are very nice 1D supershow/rodeo horses. Here's an article BHN did about cow-bred horses succeeding at barrels. http://www.barrelhorsenews.com/articles/rodeo/3553-a-cut-above I wish I could get my hands on a Highbrow Cat, but all the really nice ones go to the cutting pen. Anyone know of any running barrels?

I just got a 2 yr  grandson of High Brow Cat  o/o a Cals Frost daughter in the barn to start
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ksbarrelchick - 2014-03-24 3:22 PM Both of my horse's are double bred Doc's Prescription and I love them!  They can be a little hot and stubborn but very smart and athletic, good bone and size to them too.  I actually searched for another double Doc's Prescription when I started looking.

 I've got a mare like this. Haven't started her because of so many outsides coming in and I got a Doc Olena bred gelding that was taller I personally liked. 
Docs skipped remedy is her name ( allbreed). 
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OregonBR - 2014-03-26 2:58 PM 3 to go that information should be taken with a *.

* Most of those numbers don't have any rodeo winnings in them before the last couple of years where they are trying to include rodeo winnings.  They are missing all the small local races, amatuer rodeos and jackpots in the areas of the country that don't report to equistat.   
Ditto.  My buckskin stud has over $30,000 of barrel earnings that were not recorded by EquiStat because he was running before they started recording pro rodeo money, & they don't include any open or amateur rodeo money earned.  If you look him up it says around $6000 recorded which is not at all accurate.
Some of our local shows in this area pay out very well and they are also not recorded.  I won over $1200 at one local show last fall on one of my mares that was not recorded by EquiStat so that's a real bummer when it comes to try to document earnings.   


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Quick3 - 2014-03-25 1:57 PM I grew up riding cow or ranch bred horses but somewhere along the line, got away from them.  Well, I'm back.  I just lost a 5 year old who was Blue Valentine on top and Driftwood (Drifts Chip) on bottom.  He reminded me why I love that type of horse.  I just bought a 3 year old to start who is Dash For Perks and Sunfrost on top and Freckles Playboy, Doc Bar (Docs Last Chance) and King Glo on bottom.  After just a handful of rides, I love him.  Very smart, trainable, quick footed and willing.  I'm excited to see what he will be. 

Sounds just like my 5 yr. old gelding that's Dash for Perks and Raise Your Glass on top and Colonel Freckles and Wayward Win on the bottom - he's quick footed and willing....but very laid back. 
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I am LOVING this threadI have been running cow breds for years & being told they would never make barrel horses. I tried the race breds, I like them, but my cow breds have been my favorites, and gritty beyond words, with serious work ethic. 
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barrelracer4sure - 2014-03-26 7:03 PM

 Just curious. I have a grand daughter of Smart Chica Lena out of a daughter of Son of a Doc. She looks like she would make a barrel horse. What do yall think?

I have to ask, who did you buy her from? Sounds like a pedigree that came across my place and we dont live far apart. I think cutters can be barrel horses. I have a Docs Stylish Oak/Smart Little Lena gelding that is pretty Dynamic. His second time entered at an ameture rodeo he clocked in the middle of the pack. If they have the look good chances are they can do it :)
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luvrdeo - 2014-03-24 12:29 PM Docs Hickory, Docs Stylish Oak - love mine with that breeding! He's solid.

DITTO!! My Docs Stylish Oak grandson is the BEST thing on our place. He heads, heels, and runs barrels. Is good at all three and is just 5! :) :)  If they are all similar to him, Ill go broke trying to buy them all lol!

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Someone please tell me more about the Playgun horses. I just got a GD of him.
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I have 2 like this. A full brother and sister. The filly is a 2 year old and is so smart and easy to work with. The colt is a yearling and I kept him back against my better judgement (I don't normally ride geldings). Both are people pleasers and super quick on their feet.

I love them both, and am super excited about them.

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We also had a great Docs Prescription gelding, dam was a daughter of Cal Bar.
There have been some nice Docs Quixote in our area and you can't forget Doc O Dynamite.
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LP22654 - 2014-04-08 2:25 PM Someone please tell me more about the Playgun horses. I just got a GD of him.
Watch for the Fiestas Gotta Gun babies to hit the barrel pen.  Have a feeling they are going to be impressive.
 


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We have an own son of CD Olena and with some more time time hauling will be a hell of a barrel horse! He's short and stocky but boy does he have a turn and will flat out s**t and git! My fiancé worked him some tonight and she was blown away by the power and speed coming home!
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Nutin But A Houndog won over $100,000 as a 4 & 5 year old. He's by Dashin Elvis and out of a cowbred mare by Peppy Doc San.
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Zan Parity is a world champion cow bred horse he has had several babies do really well in the barrel pen and had 2 qualify for the American this year
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I just crossed over to the dark side myself. I've been riding a three year old cowbred gelding for the last couple of months and have fallen head over heels. He is smart without being too smart, easy to train, easy to live with, athletic and patterned in about six rides. I actually started teaching him poles and trail obstacles since he patterned so quickly and easily. Might have to start on reining patterns next.

He's Young Gun, Docs Prescription and Vibrant Chex.  I'd take a barn full. 
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Yall give me such hope for my Peppy San Badger colt. He just made 2 and is at the trainers getting broke. I love the cow bred horses. We have a 28 year old double bred Doc Bar gelding who is still running barrels. He runs 2 seconds off at local and big shows. My mom had a vet tell her today he is in excellent condition and could run for a few more years.
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Love the Hancock horses. Athletic and good all around horses. My aunt had a Hancock bred Stud that produced amazing babies. Great in the branding pen and as rope horses and barrel horses. One mare is Hancock on one side Sugar Vandy on the other and a phenomenal athlete.
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Frenchie - 2014-04-08 9:34 PM
LP22654 - 2014-04-08 2:25 PM Someone please tell me more about the Playgun horses. I just got a GD of him.
Watch for the Fiestas Gotta Gun babies to hit the barrel pen.  Have a feeling they are going to be impressive.

 

 I WANT A FIESTAS GOTTA GUN SOOOOOOO BAD!!!!!!
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What do you guys think of this mare? I personally prefer 100% all run, or something barrel bred with run on the bottom (like Frenchmans Guy in the pedigree out of a running bred mare). Anywho, we have this mare at the house and she's cute, definitely has a STOP.

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My breeding program through the last twenty years has evolved from straight race breeds to race/cow cross to straight cowbreds. While I loved to watch the little straight run colts stretch their legs and play, they lacked any noticeable amount of common sense for everyday occurrences like shots, worming, halter breaking and loading in the trailer. However, they were fast, just frustrating sometimes. The crossbreds were a little more sensible, but not that much, probably due to the running bred mares as mothers, even though they were all old track horses and easy to handle. When I was not running barrels much anymore, i decided to sell the running breds and only keep the cowbreds, the majority of which were NCHA money winners. They are daughters of Miss N Cash, Docs Hickory, Tanquery Gin, Haidas Little Pep, High Brow Hickory, and Colonel Freckles granddaughters. They are bred to my old son of Freckles Playboy. Given that I am probably biased, I have never had such good looking, good minded, athletic, quick, friendly, joyful, fun to watch colts in my life. They might not be able to outrun some of the straight runs on a straight away, but I can guarantee they will outmaneuver them in tighter spaces, and you will have a horse that you can do more things on than just run barrels. In the big picture of things, most barrel racers are not going to run in the 1D, which is why we have at least 3 more D's. My opinion is that a good quick cow bred will give the average barrel racer more joy and options than a straight run, be easier to train, and still get you to the pay window.
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I love my Zan Parr Bar horses. I have two of them. That being said...we may lack a little extra run on the straightaways but I've got lots of turn :)
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Reg. Apr 2011
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http://www.sandyridge.ab.ca/stal_pgs/paradise.htm

That guy is pretty known up here, and hes got a ton of get runing and daughters producing
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Posted 2014-06-14 10:06 AM
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Has anyone ever ran a Hollywood Dun It horse and been successful? I have a 4 year old that was a reining reject b/c he was too long strided that I just put in training for 30 days. He's still a little immature, but very talented. He's very willing and laid back..almost too lazy :)  I am really loving the cow bred. 
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Y'all are making me hopefully about my newest project he's top and bottom hancock/blue valentine! I wish he had some TB in there but maybe I'll get lucky and he will be able to run too
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Posted 2014-06-15 2:51 PM
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Longneck - 2014-03-24 3:48 PM

Whiteboy - 2014-03-24 3:35 PM I think this "Cow Line" is probably the most under-rated.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ePbMbkX_g  



Barrel horse & Bronc!  Thanks for sharing! 

I don't think you could get a more serious "barrel type" cow line.
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Whiteboy - 2014-03-24 3:35 PM I think this "Cow Line" is probably the most under-rated.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ePbMbkX_g  



Barrel horse & Bronc!  Thanks for sharing! 

I don't think you could get a more serious "barrel type" cow line.

You made my night :)
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Posted 2014-06-16 12:30 AM
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Borudm - 2014-06-14 10:06 AM

Has anyone ever ran a Hollywood Dun It horse and been successful? I have a 4 year old that was a reining reject b/c he was too long strided that I just put in training for 30 days. He's still a little immature, but very talented. He's very willing and laid back..almost too lazy :)  I am really loving the cow bred. 

I was running a daughter of Dun It With A Whiz by Hollywood Dun It I only have about 30 runs on her but she was running 1D times in bigger races here 100 plus horses. She is so athletic and pretty fast for a short squatty bodied mare. She can run a standard but excels at a slightly smaller set. She got hurt but I think she was going to be fairly tough little horse, we ran less than .5 off some nice circuit and pro horses . She is being bred to a son of Special Leader now since I can't figure out what is wrong with her. I would ride another.
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Posted 2014-06-16 8:23 AM
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koi322 - 2014-03-24 11:14 AM Vanilas Whiskey Girl: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ym7Bm2eJ85g www.allbreedpedigree.com/vanilas+whiskey+girl Bring It On Guys:  photo 1012657_486316161447627_1538917854_n.jpeg www.allbreedpedigree.com/bring+it+on+guys ETA, check out the pedigrees of these nice babies: http://www.frenchmansquarterhorses.com/ForSale_FQH.htm Vanilas Whiskey Girl is by Paddys Irish Whiskey, Bring It On Guys is out of a daughter of Paddys Irish Whiskey, and several of the foals on Frenchmans Quarter Horses' website have Paddys Irish Whiskey blood.

That is awesome news for me!!
 Thank you for posting this.
I just bought a Paddys son and love him.
Was wondering if he might cross over into the barrel pen.  
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Reg. Jan 2006
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Some friends of mine are sure doing well on the Colonel Freckles horses. Not sure how far back he is on their horses papers though.

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I got my first cutting bred colt started and am pretty pleased with him. He is double bred Docs Prescription on top with Peppy San Badger, Dry Doc and Mr Gun Smoke on the bottom. All are within 3 generations on his papers. He has a nice gas pedal and a lot of brains, natural when it comes to working off leg pressure and just a super nice colt in general. Big boned but on the short side... slow grower for sure! I would love to get my hands on another horse with these lines but with some running bred lines mixed in for height. Not sure I like being that close to the ground when riding lol
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Rockin BS
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Leo Goldseeker Bars bloodlines have done well...  Regers He Might & Catman Goldseeker are 2 that came outta those bloodlines & their offspring have REALLY been successful in barrel pen.  I know Catman has been darn successful himself in the barrel pen. 
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Rockin BS - 2014-06-16 9:26 AM Leo Goldseeker Bars bloodlines have done well...  Regers He Might & Catman Goldseeker are 2 that came outta those bloodlines & their offspring have REALLY been successful in barrel pen.  I know Catman has been darn successful himself in the barrel pen. 

 You got that right! There is a daughter of Catman Goldseeker that runs in my area. SUPER nice! Qualified for the WPRA Southeastern Circut Finals. Has run with the best of em. Shes so fun to watch!
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Whiteboy - 2014-03-24 3:35 PM I think this "Cow Line" is probably the most under-rated.  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-ePbMbkX_g  

 
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I cant wait to find out how the cow and running bloodlines work out for me. I just got a yearling I am pretty excited about. She is the buckskin in my photo.

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Posted 2015-03-25 9:42 PM
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Awesome thread. I was just telling someone the other day how my two best horses are more cow/performance bred.

The top pedigree is the mare I just started riding, one heck of an athletic, quick-footed, barrel hunting, free running fool!!!! So smooth and fun to ride.

And the 2nd one is my good ole faithful super consistant gelding

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ThreeCorners - 2014-03-25 7:22 AM

One by Sweet Little Pepto out of a Highbrow Cat mare made the finals at Diamonds and Dirt last weekend.  

Does anyone know if this was in the open or the futurity?

Im guessing the futurity...
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We have a Doc O Dynamite daugter out of a Peppy San Badger daughter going to El Scorcho this year. I've never had many Doc Bar mares around, but lordy be, I love this mare. We love this mare. I would do anything for another just like her.

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Have this little mare too. A daughter of Pat Cowan out of a daughter of Wilywood. She's a catty mare. Had bought her to resale, but she isn't going anywhere now.


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Posted 2015-03-26 8:36 AM
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Had a daughter of Shiners Lena Doc, heck of a little barrel horse, should have never sold her. Currently run a Hollywood Dun It and is solid 1D at the big shows. Love my cowbred horses and they can really eat up a barrel.
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Rockin BS
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There are some in Oklahoma running, I believe, and doing very well.   

Goldseekers do very well too.  Prefer cowbred horses over race bred - more heart & gritty as heck plus they seem to hold up longer.

 
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I really like the foundation breds... I really like Lone Drifter on Sun Frost.... goes back to Docs Jack Frost/Driftwood Ike. Smart horses that excel in many arenas and can handle the pressure of multiple events.
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TwistedK - 2015-03-26 9:36 AM I really like the foundation breds... I really like Lone Drifter on Sun Frost.... goes back to Docs Jack Frost/Driftwood Ike. Smart horses that excel in many arenas and can handle the pressure of multiple events.

OH GRASSHOPPER----I have taught you well. LOL
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Mighty Broke - 2015-03-26 8:39 AM

TwistedK - 2015-03-26 9:36 AM I really like the foundation breds... I really like Lone Drifter on Sun Frost.... goes back to Docs Jack Frost/Driftwood Ike. Smart horses that excel in many arenas and can handle the pressure of multiple events.

OH GRASSHOPPER----I have taught you well. LOL

absolutely..... I blame you.... but in the best way possible!!!
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We have a Doc stud & my barrel mare is a Poco bred horse :) Her registered name is Poco Tari's Beauty, and let me tell you, she's not super easy to ride, you can't just sit up there and lob along, you have to RIDE. but MAN she can fly, AND any time we work cows or ride out in the pasture she will watch a cow. She LOVES to hate a cow. lol She's cow bred on both sides but she's catty, put together & sits down and snaps around them :) But like I said, she's definitely not an easy rider/keeper. Low maintenance overall, but SASSY.
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I have a Grays Starlight/ Blue Duck Okie that is no bigger than a pony, literally....  She isn't even 14 hands tall that just won a barrel race with 86 entered by .2.  She does everything so effortlessly that I just hold on!   

I bought her from a horse sale as a reject cutter February of her 3 year old year and turned her out until September of her 4 year old  year and by December she was running bottom of the 1D, and that was without any pushing at all, like she MAYBE went around the barrel 4 days a week a few times a night.  She was so broke I showed her what to do and she did it, including when it came to picking her speed!  Lol.  It literally becomes a 'watch this mom' when I run her, so literally I hang on and she does it!  LOVE LOVE LOVE her, and she has a personality to go along right with it! 
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Dox Serendipity, love his combination on run bred mares!! They have turn like no other, I mean fly at a barrel and not having to worry if they will turn or not, barrel hunters!!!
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/dox+serendipity

http://www.y-yquarterhorses.com/
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