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 The Bird Lady
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Location: The end of the Earth, SE AR | I am sick, depressed, upset, disgusted after watching a dream die, watching my husbands dream and hope die. But now we have to deal with getting a yearling through 6 months of stall rest with once a week hand walk turnout so she can maybe be sound enough to be a broodmare prospect. We are supposed to try to prevent side to side rocking movement of her hoof/foot.
So I guess we need to level a stall and get mats for it (12x12).
Tell me how you kept your yearlings from climbing the walls on stall rest? Best calming supplement? Best drug for hand walking so she doesn't jump and try to run
What other issues so I need to watch out for on stall rest for 6 months? Laminitis? Colic? Stocking up? How do I prevent them or deal with them? |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | I had a mare crack her pelvis as a 3yr old..and it was recommended 6 months stall rest and recheck at the end of 12 months.....but anyway I didnt have a barn so I had to keep her in a smallish pen..I kept her with a gelding that she loved and she had all the grass she could eat and never took to running or bucking and no drugs ...being out in the sun was way better than being cooped up.......good luckMSome back on track quick wraps and some magnetic bell boots may help..and some softrides
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Location: a secret | I feel your pain... DO NOT GIVE UP.... I just did this but my filly was stall rest was almost 9 months. Her stall was 12 x20 dutch door to hang her head over always had a buddy across and next to her. I spent lots of time checking in hanging with her when I could. It is extremely challegeing but can be done. My filly got turned out three weeks ago after 9 months of confinement. I am not sure what happened to your horse but I was told to put my filly down at 6 months of age. I sent her case to Rood n Riddle/ Dr Bramledge. He saved my filly and to him I will be forever grateful. They have great podiatry clinic there as well. Check it out and dont lose hope. You have a good thing on your side your horse is young. |
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  Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Sort of dealing with that myself. I also chose an outdoor pen. He seems to want to climb the walls inside and despises being locked inside away from buddies. THE has Calming powder now, easier to feed than the cookies for some that don't like cookies. Just sprikle in grain. I also wouldn't over do the grain as you don't want them too spunky. Pm me if interested. Mine just got sore so to be proactive we locked him up by himself for 3-4 months. So far so good. |
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Neat Freak
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | rollingrfarm - 2014-03-27 7:02 AM I am sick, depressed, upset, disgusted after watching a dream die, watching my husbands dream and hope die. But now we have to deal with getting a yearling through 6 months of stall rest with once a week hand walk turnout so she can maybe be sound enough to be a broodmare prospect. We are supposed to try to prevent side to side rocking movement of her hoof/foot.
So I guess we need to level a stall and get mats for it (12x12).
Tell me how you kept your yearlings from climbing the walls on stall rest? Best calming supplement? Best drug for hand walking so she doesn't jump and try to run
What other issues so I need to watch out for on stall rest for 6 months? Laminitis? Colic? Stocking up? How do I prevent them or deal with them?
I would suggest free choice feed. It will help with boredom and colic, laminitis would depend on what kind of injury (if she is 3 legged for awhile, than yes you will have to watch for stress founder of the other feet). Stocking up wouldn't be a big worry to me, it doesn't seem to have major lasting effects like the other issues. |
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The Bird Lady
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Location: The end of the Earth, SE AR | The avulsion fracture is like a sliver of bone that has detached with the ligament. They cannot pin it due to its small size. The sliver has to grow bone to adhere it back to the P2. We can't keep her in a turn out pen because he wants her on flat surface as her foot is not allowed to become unstable or rock from side to side according to Dr. Tilley. He wants very limited walking or movement. We have lots of biting bugs about to hit so if she was in a pen outside she'd be bucking horseflies off her back. |
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Location: a secret | isnt there a shoe that could support her from the rocking motion? |
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 Reaching for the stars....
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| OK, don't know if this will help, but . .
When my last orphan was born he had an issue with one back leg. Stability and length were just not working right. We glued a plastic shoe/boot with a 'wing,' level with the ground, on the outside, thus providing support to keep that leg straight.
So, my thinking or wondering is - can a larger version of this, with wings inside and out, be put on her and keep your fillys foot stabilized? I've never seen such a thing, but I bet an open minded and creative vet or farrier could give a good answer, not just a 'no, it's never been done' answer.
My little guy wore his special shoe for a few weeks and never took a bad step after so I know the stabilization part of this idea is a good one. |
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The Advice Guru
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| I would inject bone marrow, or stem cells I to the injured area.
I would also get a quiet mini donkey or horse to keep as a companion for your baby.prayers on a speedy recovery |
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 Ditch the Stirrups
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Location: Sorrow Not! Defending against workplace bullies | My hyper gelding fractured his coffin bone and is perfectly sound after 3+ months in a stall. He was very happy if he could see outside and had a slow feeder full of hay. |
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Location: Memphis, TN | Could you use something like a kimzey splint? |
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Location: N Texas | rollingrfarm - 2014-03-27 3:01 PM
The avulsion fracture is like a sliver of bone that has detached with the ligament. They cannot pin it due to its small size. The sliver has to grow bone to adhere it back to the P2. We can't keep her in a turn out pen because he wants her on flat surface as her foot is not allowed to become unstable or rock from side to side according to Dr. Tilley. He wants very limited walking or movement. We have lots of biting bugs about to hit so if she was in a pen outside she'd be bucking horseflies off her back.
Is a cast not an option? Or at least something sturdy that would prevent much movement when she walks? |
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Location: Tennessee | I had a yearling flip over a fence and break his neck in the growth plate. Doc said to put him down or cross our fingers and pray. He was on stall rest for 6 months, I couldn't even hand walk him due to the stress it would cause on his neck if he tried to jerk away. We got really close during that time, I just spent a lot of time brushing him, loving on him, and giving him attention. He's 14 now and as sound as a dollar, you'd never know his neck was ever broken... |
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 The Color Specialist
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Location: Washington. (The DRY side.) | What is her disposition like? Depending on how "energetic" she typically is, the stall rest may not be an issue. My 3yo could handle total stall rest for the rest of his life and not be bothered. He had been like this since birth, very quite and calm even when in a small area. (Like a stall) He isn't the type to get "hyped up" due to being locked up. |
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The Bird Lady
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Location: The end of the Earth, SE AR | RacingQH - 2014-03-27 10:09 PM What is her disposition like? Depending on how "energetic" she typically is, the stall rest may not be an issue. My 3yo could handle total stall rest for the rest of his life and not be bothered. He had been like this since birth, very quite and calm even when in a small area. (Like a stall) He isn't the type to get "hyped up" due to being locked up.
She's a grandaughter of Corona Cartel, and a grandaughter of Chicks Beduino if that's any help in understanding her disposition. She's very calm and willing when things are going her way, but she gets hot in a heartbeat when she can't do what she wants. |
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The Bird Lady
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Location: The end of the Earth, SE AR | lonely va barrelxr - 2014-03-27 3:12 PM OK, don't know if this will help, but . .
When my last orphan was born he had an issue with one back leg. Stability and length were just not working right. We glued a plastic shoe/boot with a 'wing,' level with the ground, on the outside, thus providing support to keep that leg straight.
So, my thinking or wondering is - can a larger version of this, with wings inside and out, be put on her and keep your fillys foot stabilized? I've never seen such a thing, but I bet an open minded and creative vet or farrier could give a good answer, not just a 'no, it's never been done' answer.
My little guy wore his special shoe for a few weeks and never took a bad step after so I know the stabilization part of this idea is a good one.
Wouldn't a shoe with a wing on the inside and outside be ripped off when she stepped on it with her right foot? |
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The Bird Lady
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Location: The end of the Earth, SE AR | barrelracin85 - 2014-03-27 4:13 PM Could you use something like a kimzey splint?
Looks interesting, going to check into that. |
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The Bird Lady
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Location: The end of the Earth, SE AR | cheryl makofka - 2014-03-27 3:26 PM I would inject bone marrow, or stem cells I to the injured area. I would also get a quiet mini donkey or horse to keep as a companion for your baby.prayers on a speedy recovery
Can they do those injects into the hoof capsule? The injury is below the coronary band. |
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Reaching for the stars....
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| rollingrfarm - 2014-03-28 7:34 AM lonely va barrelxr - 2014-03-27 3:12 PM OK, don't know if this will help, but . .
When my last orphan was born he had an issue with one back leg. Stability and length were just not working right. We glued a plastic shoe/boot with a 'wing,' level with the ground, on the outside, thus providing support to keep that leg straight.
So, my thinking or wondering is - can a larger version of this, with wings inside and out, be put on her and keep your fillys foot stabilized? I've never seen such a thing, but I bet an open minded and creative vet or farrier could give a good answer, not just a 'no, it's never been done' answer.
My little guy wore his special shoe for a few weeks and never took a bad step after so I know the stabilization part of this idea is a good one. Wouldn't a shoe with a wing on the inside and outside be ripped off when she stepped on it with her right foot?
They weren't huge wings. I wish I could find a pic of this little shoe thing. The wing part way maybe 1" out? It could be less on the inside and more on the outside for your filly? Maybe 1" max on the inside with 1.5" front and outside? Maybe even a little to the back? I'm thinking off the cuff here with no technical expertise behind me, but I know how stabilizing the little bit of wing was for my colt so just a thought of something to help your filly heal quicker.
Found a couple things to look at:
BestBuyHorseShoes.com
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FarrierDepot.com, Grand Circuit Stabilizer
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Location: Indiana, United States | Just got through having my gelding in a stall for almost 6 months. He'll be 2 in May. He would only pace back in forth when I let the other horses out. If there was a horse beside him in the stall he was fine. I tried a calming supplement but I didn't see a change in his temperment. He didn't start any bad habits....thankfully. I kept plenty of hay in front of him and threw a jolly ball in with him. He's fully healed now. Hoping for the best for you!! At that age...they are absolutely amazing with their resilliancy for these situations...good luck! |
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The Bird Lady
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Location: The end of the Earth, SE AR | rearin2go - 2014-03-28 12:41 PM Just got through having my gelding in a stall for almost 6 months. He'll be 2 in May. He would only pace back in forth when I let the other horses out. If there was a horse beside him in the stall he was fine. I tried a calming supplement but I didn't see a change in his temperment. He didn't start any bad habits....thankfully. I kept plenty of hay in front of him and threw a jolly ball in with him. He's fully healed now. Hoping for the best for you!! At that age...they are absolutely amazing with their resilliancy for these situations...good luck!
Thank you, and congrats on your geldings successful healing, that's great! |
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