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Location: Idahome | Be careful on an 06 Dodge. I can't remember if it is the late 06 or early (someone can clarify), but they had some issues. I have an 03 Ford now and while it is comfortable to ride in and tows good, it doesn't turn worth a **** and it sucks to start in the winter if not plugged it. When we do buy a new truck, we have already decided to go with Dodge. My family grew up with them and this was the first Ford I have had. It really isn't a bad truck, I just like the Dodges better. |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | I had either Fords or Chevy's all my life. Then...I decided on a 2005 Dodge 2500 Diesel with the 5.9L Cummins engine. It's a long wheel base (Quad cab with Long bed)...and yet it is FAR easier to maneuver than my 2009 Chevy short bed ever thought of being. This truck pulls like a champ and I absolutely love it.
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Location: Kentucky | Drive both, make decision from there. |
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Location: Montana | We had an 06 Dodge 2500 crew cab long box with the 5.9 Cummins 4x4 and we really liked it. Averaged pretty good fuel mileage too (I'm thinking 18 on the highway not pulling). Haven't tried the newer Fords...I am a Ford fan but WILL NOT have a 6.0 liter diesel. I'm interested to see how the 6.7 liter diesel does and how reliable it is. The last three trucks we have had have been Cummins (an 01, an 06, and now a 94...on the 94 we lucked into finding it as it was perfect for what we need it to do) and have NOTHING to complain about as far as reliability. Love em. The only thing I can say is where our trailer is parked, a long box with a crew or extended cab is a little hard to maneuver, but that has nothing to do with the truck but where our trailer is parked. |
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Location: Kentucky | 6.7 is a badass, but we can't afford it, so we stick with our 7.3 and 6.0. I like them both.
I have no idea what my diesels get MPG wise. I'm sure it's not great. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | We had a 2008 dodge and HATED it. Lemon. Was able to get rid of it and get a 2011 that we love.
I have heard 04-08 dodges have issues, not sure on the Fords though. I am a die hard Dodge fan. But will be the first to say that I think Fords have a superior interior for comfort and looks.
I think you should look at everything available in your price range and do a ton of homework and research on it. Anytime you buy used you take risks. |
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| missroselee - 2014-03-27 1:13 PM
We had a 2008 dodge and HATED it. Lemon. Was able to get rid of it and get a 2011 that we love.
I have heard 04-08 dodges have issues, not sure on the Fords though. I am a die hard Dodge fan. But will be the first to say that I think Fords have a superior interior for comfort and looks.
I think you should look at everything available in your price range and do a ton of homework and research on it. Anytime you buy used you take risks.
I have an 06 and it is a good truck, the automatic transmission is not as strong as the 08, but the 08 standards have a computer glitch, there is a bog, my parents cut the Catoloic converter out, the bog went away.
I do know there is a class action law suit going on about the bog in the 08, it will be interesting to see what comes of that.
Fords in those years have injector problems. 2006 seem to be the worst
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Location: MD | sold my 99 dodge ram 1500... bought a '12 ford F-250 super duty last year. I'm currently shopping for another dodge. It his plenty of power but my trailer sways all over, I've gotten this thing stuck in dry, short grass. my dodge sucked gas like it was nothing, but it was also in a bit of... shall we say... disrepair. |
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Location: Randolph, Utah | We have an 01 dodge with almost 300K miles on it, still runs and pulls like a champ. Then we have an 05 dodge and it runs and pulls great. Tons of power!
Both trucks are 2500 with stick shift.
I did drive a new ford last fall I'm not sure how the pulling power is but it could sure go fast, and it was so smooth riding. |
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Location: Willows, CA | We run a 09 Dodge 2500 for the business. It has just under 100k miles on it and has only been back to the dealer twice, and that was for two recalls. Other than that it just got brakes, and U-joints. No other repairs, just normal oil changes and one set of tires. This is the most reliable truck I have ever owned. It is a Cummins with automatic and 4x4. I have always been a Ford fan for towing horses, but this Dodge has been great. Dodge had a big discount going when I bought it and it was priced almost $14k under what a Ford or Chevy would have cost me that day. I had to give it a try at that difference in price. Glad I did. |
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Location: Online | Crowned Image - 2014-03-27 12:20 PM sold my 99 dodge ram 1500... bought a '12 ford F-250 super duty last year. I'm currently shopping for another dodge. It his plenty of power but my trailer sways all over, I've gotten this thing stuck in dry, short grass. my dodge sucked gas like it was nothing, but it was also in a bit of... shall we say... disrepair.
You're problem isn't that it's a Ford. It's that it's a 3/4 ton. My F350 Ford long bed handles a trailer way better than a 1 ton dodge. I've pulled with both.....
To each their own, but I won't own a Dodge. Just stay away from late '03 to '07 Fords. There was a article in one of the car magazines that had a list of cars and trucks to never buy used. The 6.0 liter Ford was on it and some Dodge trucks were included, just don't remember years. |
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Location: Montana | We have an 07 Dodge, big horn. We bought it new. Love the truck, we get 22 empty and 18 loaded. The trucks that were produced in the first half of the year have the 5.9 and do not have the imission stuff the those made in the last half do (the trucks made in the last half have the 6.7). They are hard to find, we get offers from dealerships all of the time trying to buy this truck from us. This specific truck made diesel of the year above all the others. Other then normal maintence we have had no problems with it. |
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| Stay away from the 6.0 Ford engines. You will spend more time in the shop then on the road. |
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Location: Texas | Id stay away from 6.0 fords or 07-2010 dodges.
Too much work goes into them. I have a 2004 dodge 2500 and i LOVE my truck. Sadly it has a lot of issues that are of no faults of the truck.
The kid ran the hell out of this truck and i have been slowly fixing it. And with all its issues its never left me stranded and (knock on wood) its never had any motor or tranny issues.
Wanted to add I get 20 MPG empty and 15 loaded with 3 horses and a steel trailer.
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Location: North Texas | I would not touch a 04-06 Ford 6.0-6.4 Powerstroke w/ a ten foot pole! I am not real up to date on Dodges. But not a Dodge fan either. The Cummins is perhaps the better powerplant, but the 94-03 1/2 Ford Powerstroke is my favorite. And the 99-03 Ford is a much better truck than the 94-97. The later model 2010 and later Ford Powerstrokes are proving themselves to 'King of The Mountain'......................
However, many Rodeo people swear by Dodge. True story (I told numerous times on here) in 1999 I was riding in mid 90s Dodge 4x4 Cummins Automatic, on road and the ride was so rough, I was hitting the passenger side headliner w/ my head! I won't own anything but a Ford Powerstroke!
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Location: Montana | foundation horse - 2014-03-27 2:58 PM I would not touch a 04-06 Ford 6.0-6.4 Powerstroke w/ a ten foot pole! I am not real up to date on Dodges. But not a Dodge fan either. The Cummins is perhaps the better powerplant, but the 94-03 1/2 Ford Powerstroke is my favorite. And the 99-03 Ford is a much better truck than the 94-97. The later model 2010 and later Ford Powerstrokes are proving themselves to 'King of The Mountain'...................... However, many Rodeo people swear by Dodge. True story (I told numerous times on here) in 1999 I was riding in mid 90s Dodge 4x4 Cummins Automatic, on road and the ride was so rough, I was hitting the passenger side headliner w/ my head! I won't own anything but a Ford Powerstroke!
I couldn't agree with you more about mid 90's Dodges. The 94 Dodge Cummins we have is fine with a trailer behind it, but it is very rough to ride in without a trailer. But they are built heavy duty for a lot of hard use. The 2006 Dodge crew cab long box Cummins we had had a lot nicer ride.
We also had a 99 Ford V10 gas, and the ride on that was much more like a car, but the fuel mileage left some to be desired (it averaged 12 MPG no matter what speed you went, how careful you drove, etc.).
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Location: North Dakota | I had a dodge around that year and it cost us more in repairs than we paid for it. The transmission went out just after the milage warrenty expired, we had it replaced and within 2 years it burned again. Had three radiators put in, the eletrical computer system replaced which burned two days later and smoked the inside of the cab up. Replaced eletrical again and the warning systems would go on and off. Lots more to list but the experience I had with dodge is that they are junk! Try GMC it will last and is much better quality! You pay more but it will last years longer!!!!
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Location: NOT at Wal Mart | True story, 12 Ford F350, 4X4, 13 GMC 3500, 4X4, 13 Dodge 3500 4X4, pulling same trailer Sundowner 3 horse, small LQ, same route, same driver. Not sure of the rear-ends in the trucks. ONLY difference in the trucks was/is suspension, the Dodge has Shocks and a leveling kit. All trucks stock other than that.
Results: The GMC won hands down with acceleration/power, Ford second, Dodge last. The amount of power the GMC made was significant and VERY noticeable from the get go! Both Ford and GMC continued to make power higher into the RPM's where Dodge didnt, choked into the higher RPM. Was a fun test and now I know what truck has more power. |
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| I had a2004 dodge. I wouldnt EVER buy another one unless it is newer than 2007.5. They are lemons. Even have a couple friends with the same truck.. 2004 and 2005 and they have nothing but problems as well. fords... I am not sure on, never owned one. I do love my 2005 gmc duramax though |
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| Puddy - 2014-03-27 3:48 PM
I had a2004 dodge. I wouldnt EVER buy another one unless it is newer than 2007.5. They are lemons. Even have a couple friends with the same truck.. 2004 and 2005 and they have nothing but problems as well. fords... I am not sure on, never owned one. I do love my 2005 gmc duramax though
I hve a 2004 dodge dually, cummins and its been an awesome pickup. Pulls great and gets great mileage. I've had it for several years. |
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Location: BFE | DODGE ALL THE WAY 5.9 will out last any of them. and will get better mileage stock than any other Truck out there Hands Down!!!!  |
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Location: Texas | 3TurnsonSpud - 2014-03-27 7:32 PM
Puddy - 2014-03-27 3:48 PM
I had a2004 dodge. I wouldnt EVER buy another one unless it is newer than 2007.5. They are lemons. Even have a couple friends with the same truck.. 2004 and 2005 and they have nothing but problems as well. fords... I am not sure on, never owned one. I do love my 2005 gmc duramax though
I hve a 2004 dodge dually, cummins and its been an awesome pickup. Pulls great and gets great mileage. I've had it for several years.
Yup I absolutly love love love my 04 2500 :) |
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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | dodge and cummins all the way baby, nothing better |
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| 5.9 Cummins  We have a '95 and an '03. Both are standard transmission, and we bought both new. We are nit picks though. We put a 1000 miles on our trucks before we pull with them, and we didn't drive either over 55 MPH until they had 300 miles on them. So far, all we have done to the 19 yr old truck is replace the clutch and the fuel line, both after it was 17 years old. The '03 hasn't required anything yet. We change the oil every 3000 miles.
I will say the paint on any Chrysler product is much lower quality. Just heard they changed the formula and it is much better though.
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Location: Kentucky | I always laugh when someone says brand is "the best". If one was indeed "the best" then we wouldn't have three diesel truck brands to choose from. Just go with what you like. |
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Location: North Dakota | 3TurnsonSpud - 2014-03-27 7:32 PM Puddy - 2014-03-27 3:48 PM I had a2004 dodge. I wouldnt EVER buy another one unless it is newer than 2007.5. They are lemons. Even have a couple friends with the same truck.. 2004 and 2005 and they have nothing but problems as well. fords... I am not sure on, never owned one. I do love my 2005 gmc duramax though I hve a 2004 dodge dually, cummins and its been an awesome pickup. Pulls great and gets great mileage. I've had it for several years.
I love my 3500 '04.5. We were looking at upgrading to a '12 or newer but decided to hang on to our 5.9 without all the new tech crap. My dad has a '13 Longhorn Laramie and we all love it and it is a pulling machine but it is the techy crap like computers, fancy schmancy radio, and sensors that have been a bit of a pain already and it is less than a year old. I hate to see what these newer model trucks will be like in 10 years. I just don't think they are made to last anymore. My dads old Dodge was a '95 with over 500k miles on it. He never had an issue with it other than normal wear and tear. He thinks he is losing 5th gear now but heck something is bound to happen with that many miles on a truck and most of them with a heavy load on. |
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Location: At the barn | Ford cannot compare to Dodge. They just aren't the same animal as far as pulling. Ive had 4 Dodges from a 99 3/4 to a 2012 ton. They are great for pulling and the Fords I've been in can't hold them a light to go by. |
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Location: North Texas | trotncowpony - 2014-03-28 11:34 AM
Ford cannot compare to Dodge. They just aren't the same animal as far as pulling. Ive had 4 Dodges from a 99 3/4 to a 2012 ton. They are great for pulling and the Fords I've been in can't hold them a light to go by.
Then why do I see the market for 99-03 Powerstrokes going through the roof and one can buy an older Dodge for a little of nothing?
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Location: Kentucky | trotncowpony - 2014-03-28 12:34 PM Ford cannot compare to Dodge. They just aren't the same animal as far as pulling. Ive had 4 Dodges from a 99 3/4 to a 2012 ton. They are great for pulling and the Fords I've been in can't hold them a light to go by.
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| foundation horse - 2014-03-28 2:00 PM
trotncowpony - 2014-03-28 11:34 AM
Ford cannot compare to Dodge. They just aren't the same animal as far as pulling. Ive had 4 Dodges from a 99 3/4 to a 2012 ton. They are great for pulling and the Fords I've been in can't hold them a light to go by.
Then why do I see the market for 99-03 Powerstrokes going through the roof and one can buy an older Dodge for a little of nothing?
Please message me the cheap dodges as in my area the 12 valves go for anywhere from 10-20k. My truck is a 2006 and the black book price is still 25k.
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98 percent of fords are still on the road today, the other 2 percent made it home, ROFLMAO |
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Location: Kentucky | cheryl makofka - 2014-03-28 3:11 PM foundation horse - 2014-03-28 2:00 PM trotncowpony - 2014-03-28 11:34 AM Ford cannot compare to Dodge. They just aren't the same animal as far as pulling. Ive had 4 Dodges from a 99 3/4 to a 2012 ton. They are great for pulling and the Fords I've been in can't hold them a light to go by. Then why do I see the market for 99-03 Powerstrokes going through the roof and one can buy an older Dodge for a little of nothing? Please message me the cheap dodges as in my area the 12 valves go for anywhere from 10-20k. My truck is a 2006 and the black book price is still 25k. Again please message me the links to the cheap dodges
It must be your area. You can get 12v for less than 8k all day long around here. |
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Location: North Dakota | foundation horse - 2014-03-28 2:00 PM trotncowpony - 2014-03-28 11:34 AM Ford cannot compare to Dodge. They just aren't the same animal as far as pulling. Ive had 4 Dodges from a 99 3/4 to a 2012 ton. They are great for pulling and the Fords I've been in can't hold them a light to go by. Then why do I see the market for 99-03 Powerstrokes going through the roof and one can buy an older Dodge for a little of nothing?
I guess I'm not seeing that at all. We paid $16k for our 01 in 2007 and I am seeing trucks the exact age and mileage now going for $18k. We also paid $20k for our 04 in 2010 and could sell it for that if not more even though it now has higher mileage. It's hard to find one under $10k even in rough shape. |
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Location: NOT at Wal Mart | trotncowpony - 2014-03-28 9:34 AM Ford cannot compare to Dodge. They just aren't the same animal as far as pulling. Ive had 4 Dodges from a 99 3/4 to a 2012 ton. They are great for pulling and the Fords I've been in can't hold them a light to go by.
Ha ha ha, in the test, we started at a stop and accelerated to a certin point, what truck got to the point fastest, and what speed it was at when it got to the point. lol Dodge was last and obtained the slowest speed, so much for power. |
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Location: At the barn | That's pretty interesting since the latest test was a Ford f450 and Dodge 3500 and the Dodge beat the Ford significantly. Ford is a poor comparison to Dodge. Plus, look at the Ford injector deal. Pretty sad. Oh, and the frame twist test lol. Ford looked like a flimsy a$$ half ton. Dodge was stout as an ox!
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Location: SE Louisiana | FORD... Freaked Out Racing Dodge... Old.. I know.... I'm ducking for cover 'cuz I know Murphy is coming for me!!! 
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| trotncowpony - 2014-03-29 2:42 AM
That's pretty interesting since the latest test was a Ford f450 and Dodge 3500 and the Dodge beat the Ford significantly. Ford is a poor comparison to Dodge. Plus, look at the Ford injector deal. Pretty sad. Oh, and the frame twist test lol. Ford looked like a flimsy a$$ half ton. Dodge was stout as an ox!
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| I own a auto parts store and shop and had customer with a 6.0 die in my parking lot. I have a customer who works for virginia power and they use all ford products. Tye 7.3, 6.0 and the 6.7 this man has worked on them all they had so much trouble he told me that they are starting to use dodge ram and have not had nowhere near the problem with them. I am a die hard dodge cummings person. If i where to buy a new one would spend the money to take the emmission junk off the truck and u would void warranty but you would be wqy better off. |
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Location: Kentucky | daisycake123 - 2014-03-29 7:00 AM I own a auto parts store and shop and had customer with a 6.0 die in my parking lot. I have a customer who works for virginia power and they use all ford products. Tye 7.3, 6.0 and the 6.7 this man has worked on them all they had so much trouble he told me that they are starting to use dodge ram and have not had nowhere near the problem with them. I am a die hard dodge cummings person. If i where to buy a new one would spend the money to take the emmission junk off the truck and u would void warranty but you would be wqy better off.
If you were a diehard Dodge person then you would know its a Cummins, not Cummings. As far as someone saying they are having problems with the 7.3 and 6.7... Please let me know their name so I can never have them work on my trucks. The 7.3 is a workhorse... I don't even think Dodge people can deny that.
Im a big girl and can say that Cummins makes a dang good engine. I just hate the way Dodges look and drive. Plus they are loud. I think the Chevys are good looking and the Duramax has a good rep, plus they have the Allison tranny.
Like all things, please only take advice and opinions from someone who has experience and not someone who says "x brand all the way". They each have pros and cons.
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| Murphy - 2014-03-29 8:44 AM daisycake123 - 2014-03-29 7:00 AM I own a auto parts store and shop and had customer with a 6.0 die in my parking lot. I have a customer who works for virginia power and they use all ford products. Tye 7.3, 6.0 and the 6.7 this man has worked on them all they had so much trouble he told me that they are starting to use dodge ram and have not had nowhere near the problem with them. I am a die hard dodge cummings person. If i where to buy a new one would spend the money to take the emmission junk off the truck and u would void warranty but you would be wqy better off. If you were a diehard Dodge person then you would know its a Cummins, not Cummings. As far as someone saying they are having problems with the 7.3 and 6.7... Please let me know their name so I can never have them work on my trucks. The 7.3 is a workhorse... I don't even think Dodge people can deny that.
Im a big girl and can say that Cummins makes a dang good engine. I just hate the way Dodges look and drive. Plus they are loud. I think the Chevys are good looking and the Duramax has a good rep, plus they have the Allison tranny.
Like all things, please only take advice and opinions from someone who has experience and not someone who says "x brand all the way". They each have pros and cons.
^This.
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Location: North Texas | Just Plain Lucky - 2014-03-29 9:14 AM
Murphy - 2014-03-29 8:44 AM daisycake123 - 2014-03-29 7:00 AM I own a auto parts store and shop and had customer with a 6.0 die in my parking lot. I have a customer who works for virginia power and they use all ford products. Tye 7.3, 6.0 and the 6.7 this man has worked on them all they had so much trouble he told me that they are starting to use dodge ram and have not had nowhere near the problem with them. I am a die hard dodge cummings person. If i where to buy a new one would spend the money to take the emmission junk off the truck and u would void warranty but you would be wqy better off. If you were a diehard Dodge person then you would know its a Cummins, not Cummings. As far as someone saying they are having problems with the 7.3 and 6.7... Please let me know their name so I can never have them work on my trucks. The 7.3 is a workhorse... I don't even think Dodge people can deny that.
Im a big girl and can say that Cummins makes a dang good engine. I just hate the way Dodges look and drive. Plus they are loud. I think the Chevys are good looking and the Duramax has a good rep, plus they have the Allison tranny.
Like all things, please only take advice and opinions from someone who has experience and not someone who says "x brand all the way". They each have pros and cons.
Also, the only "tests" that have any credibility would be those performed by actual scientists in a controlled environment. NOT in someone's backyard.
Per Real World Experience, the Dodge Bodies fall apart before Ford Bodies. IE Dodge Dashboard that disintegrate.....................
Don't get me wrong, the Cummins is an EXCELLENT Powerplant and The Allison Transmission has proven itself as well, but the Package this combo is presented in is of low quality. I personally see more 'Old' Ford Diesels in my travels than I do 'Old' Dodge Diesels. And I do believe that when History is examined, that more Fords will be on the road than Dodges or Chevrolets.
From first hand experience, The Accessories on a Powerstroke will stroke out before the Powerstroke.
I have driven Fords all my life (and I am two days older 'n dirt) and Powerstrokes for the last twenty years, so, I believe I am qualified to speak on this subject.
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| foundation horse - 2014-03-29 11:36 AM Just Plain Lucky - 2014-03-29 9:14 AM Murphy - 2014-03-29 8:44 AM daisycake123 - 2014-03-29 7:00 AM I own a auto parts store and shop and had customer with a 6.0 die in my parking lot. I have a customer who works for virginia power and they use all ford products. Tye 7.3, 6.0 and the 6.7 this man has worked on them all they had so much trouble he told me that they are starting to use dodge ram and have not had nowhere near the problem with them. I am a die hard dodge cummings person. If i where to buy a new one would spend the money to take the emmission junk off the truck and u would void warranty but you would be wqy better off. If you were a diehard Dodge person then you would know its a Cummins, not Cummings. As far as someone saying they are having problems with the 7.3 and 6.7... Please let me know their name so I can never have them work on my trucks. The 7.3 is a workhorse... I don't even think Dodge people can deny that.
Im a big girl and can say that Cummins makes a dang good engine. I just hate the way Dodges look and drive. Plus they are loud. I think the Chevys are good looking and the Duramax has a good rep, plus they have the Allison tranny.
Like all things, please only take advice and opinions from someone who has experience and not someone who says "x brand all the way". They each have pros and cons.
Also, the only "tests" that have any credibility would be those performed by actual scientists in a controlled environment. NOT in someone's backyard. Per Real World Experience, the Dodge Bodies fall apart before Ford Bodies. IE Dodge Dashboard that disintegrate..................... Don't get me wrong, the Cummins is an EXCELLENT Powerplant and The Allison Transmission has proven itself as well, but the Package this combo is presented in is of low quality. I personally see more 'Old' Ford Diesels in my travels than I do 'Old' Dodge Diesels. And I do believe that when History is examined, that more Fords will be on the road than Dodges or Chevrolets. From first hand experience, The Accessories on a Powerstroke will stroke out before the Powerstroke. I have driven Fords all my life (and I am two days older 'n dirt ) and Powerstrokes for the last twenty years, so, I believe I am qualified to speak on this subject.
I was talking more along lines of a Dodge vs. Chevy vs. Ford battle royale being passed off as "tests". LOL. And I would have to agree with seeing more Fords on the road, with Chevy being second and Dodge being third. But, I think you have to also acknowledge the fact that Ford trucks (not just the F150) were real best sellers. That has to skew those findings a little bit.
I rarely ever see the old Dodges around. Come to think of it, I rarely see new Dodges, but that could simply be a regional thing.
I can't tell you how many Ford vs. Dodge, Dodge vs. Chevy etc. videos I've seen on Youtube that are filmed on the backroads and in backyards of 'Muricans. Those are not tests, they're stupid and don't prove anything (other than the fact that their owners have too much money and time on their hands). LOL |
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Location: Montana | Murphy - 2014-03-29 5:44 AM daisycake123 - 2014-03-29 7:00 AM I own a auto parts store and shop and had customer with a 6.0 die in my parking lot. I have a customer who works for virginia power and they use all ford products. Tye 7.3, 6.0 and the 6.7 this man has worked on them all they had so much trouble he told me that they are starting to use dodge ram and have not had nowhere near the problem with them. I am a die hard dodge cummings person. If i where to buy a new one would spend the money to take the emmission junk off the truck and u would void warranty but you would be wqy better off. If you were a diehard Dodge person then you would know its a Cummins, not Cummings. As far as someone saying they are having problems with the 7.3 and 6.7... Please let me know their name so I can never have them work on my trucks. The 7.3 is a workhorse... I don't even think Dodge people can deny that.
Im a big girl and can say that Cummins makes a dang good engine. I just hate the way Dodges look and drive. Plus they are loud. I think the Chevys are good looking and the Duramax has a good rep, plus they have the Allison tranny.
Like all things, please only take advice and opinions from someone who has experience and not someone who says "x brand all the way". They each have pros and cons.
Just a note; my husband works on the North Slope of Alaska. They get all three of these trucks as fleet trucks. He has worked up there for over 15 years. Dodge beats the other two hands down. His company is going to only Dodge. Those are about the hardest conditions that these trucks can be worked under. Ford pukes out before the other two, every time. No offense. |
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Location: minnesota | Haven't read this thread nor will I pretend to know enough about motors to contribute anything of relevance. However......
I am lucky and unlucky enough to own an F350 6 liter. All the regular **** that'll run your pocket book dry keepin that truck on the road has happened. But even running on a couple injectors that beast never let me sit. And when she's running good, the power is like no other.
But the one thing I can say about being a proud owner of a FORD vehicle, and not just my truck, is that NO ONE has had to pay out of their pocket for me to actually own it.
I don't care if Chevrolet makes a vehicle that can fly, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot flippen pole. I prefer my vehicles "federal government baleout free." It's a matter of principle sometimes.
And I was Pro Ford before the baleout, now it just makes it easier to like them.
And to all you chevy owners, your welcome. Not exactly what I wanted to spend my tax dollars on, but then again, that's not my choice.
Dodge, well they make one heck of a truck. But when the body rattles apart on you, that gets annoying. And they don't heat or cool worth a crap after a few years.
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Location: Kentucky | Bandit94 - 2014-03-29 12:34 PM Murphy - 2014-03-29 5:44 AM daisycake123 - 2014-03-29 7:00 AM I own a auto parts store and shop and had customer with a 6.0 die in my parking lot. I have a customer who works for virginia power and they use all ford products. Tye 7.3, 6.0 and the 6.7 this man has worked on them all they had so much trouble he told me that they are starting to use dodge ram and have not had nowhere near the problem with them. I am a die hard dodge cummings person. If i where to buy a new one would spend the money to take the emmission junk off the truck and u would void warranty but you would be wqy better off. If you were a diehard Dodge person then you would know its a Cummins, not Cummings. As far as someone saying they are having problems with the 7.3 and 6.7... Please let me know their name so I can never have them work on my trucks. The 7.3 is a workhorse... I don't even think Dodge people can deny that.
Im a big girl and can say that Cummins makes a dang good engine. I just hate the way Dodges look and drive. Plus they are loud. I think the Chevys are good looking and the Duramax has a good rep, plus they have the Allison tranny.
Like all things, please only take advice and opinions from someone who has experience and not someone who says "x brand all the way". They each have pros and cons.
Did you even read my post? I gave props to both Cummins and Duramax and you respond with this. Seriously?
Yikes, I'm done with this thread. It's just as bad as a tie down or clone thread. Bunch of mud slinging.
OP - in my original post, I still suggesting drive BOTH brands, if those are the only two you are interested in, and making your decision there. No matter what people are saying, they are comparable. If they weren't there would be a monopoly, which would be very, very bad. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | My personal experiences with the old 6.0 powerstroke in 3 different trucks was a nightmare and I love Fords in general, but I just evolved to the point where I decided it was time to try something else, even if Ford's new engine is a much better. That, plus I was able to get a much better deal on trade with the dodge dealer versus ford.
I think arguing about pickups is like arguing about cigars. I lurk and learn, but they all have pros and cons. Unfortunately for me, I ended up dealing with more cons selling Fords than pros. |
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Location: NOT at Wal Mart | HotbearLVR - 2014-03-30 7:50 AM My personal experiences with the old 6.0 powerstroke in 3 different trucks was a nightmare and I love Fords in general, but I just evolved to the point where I decided it was time to try something else, even if Ford's new engine is a much better. That, plus I was able to get a much better deal on trade with the dodge dealer versus ford. I think arguing about pickups is like arguing about cigars. I lurk and learn, but they all have pros and cons. Unfortunately for me, I ended up dealing with more cons selling Fords than pros.
I got 4 Cuban's sitting in the humidor..... |
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | It's not a truck but we have a Dodge Grand Caravan and it's a piece of junk. It is an 08 that hardly gets used and is stored in the garage. It's a wheelchair van for my dad and MAYBE has 22,000 km of all hwy. We get recalls up the wazoo and have had to fix a number of things. I agree that the dashboard will fall apart. The entire inside is cheap. And if you saw the van you would think it was brand new from the outside. My dad babies it.... it also has some of the most UNCOMFORTABLE seats.
I'm a ford girl. I know of several trucks in the family that get the crap worked out of them and are still going strong. If you saw what they go through in a summer... Mine will be a ford when I get it. |
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| JazzyGirl - 2014-03-29 11:32 PM
Haven't read this thread nor will I pretend to know enough about motors to contribute anything of relevance. However......
I am lucky and unlucky enough to own an F350 6 liter. All the regular **** that'll run your pocket book dry keepin that truck on the road has happened. But even running on a couple injectors that beast never let me sit. And when she's running good, the power is like no other.
But the one thing I can say about being a proud owner of a FORD vehicle, and not just my truck, is that NO ONE has had to pay out of their pocket for me to actually own it.
I don't care if Chevrolet makes a vehicle that can fly, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot flippen pole. I prefer my vehicles "federal government baleout free." It's a matter of principle sometimes.
And I was Pro Ford before the baleout, now it just makes it easier to like them.
And to all you chevy owners, your welcome. Not exactly what I wanted to spend my tax dollars on, but then again, that's not my choice.
Dodge, well they make one heck of a truck. But when the body rattles apart on you, that gets annoying. And they don't heat or cool worth a crap after a few years.
I have to disagree with some of your information,
The heating and cooling
My father has a 1992, 1996, 1998 all with over 500k on them these trucks have worked in the oil patch been run hard, pulled hard, they still produce awesome heat, the ac works wonderful, but as any vehicle the ac needs to be recharged.
As for the interior, all dashboards are intact not a crack, I have actually never seen a poor dashboard. The seats have broken down, but that is it. I live where 40 below can be normal.
I have a 2006 I have no problem with the interior, the heat and ac work perfect.
My family has been dodge since dirt as you can't beat the cummins engine.
Also ford did take bailout money, atleast they did in Canada. |
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| We aren't biased at our house, weve had all three, GM, Ford and Dodge...always end up back at the Fords...have a 2012 F350 dually awesome truck...love everything about it. |
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Location: North Texas | cheryl makofka - 2014-03-30 2:37 PM
JazzyGirl - 2014-03-29 11:32 PM
Haven't read this thread nor will I pretend to know enough about motors to contribute anything of relevance. However......
I am lucky and unlucky enough to own an F350 6 liter. All the regular **** that'll run your pocket book dry keepin that truck on the road has happened. But even running on a couple injectors that beast never let me sit. And when she's running good, the power is like no other.
But the one thing I can say about being a proud owner of a FORD vehicle, and not just my truck, is that NO ONE has had to pay out of their pocket for me to actually own it.
I don't care if Chevrolet makes a vehicle that can fly, I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot flippen pole. I prefer my vehicles "federal government baleout free." It's a matter of principle sometimes.
And I was Pro Ford before the baleout, now it just makes it easier to like them.
And to all you chevy owners, your welcome. Not exactly what I wanted to spend my tax dollars on, but then again, that's not my choice.
Dodge, well they make one heck of a truck. But when the body rattles apart on you, that gets annoying. And they don't heat or cool worth a crap after a few years.
I have to disagree with some of your information,
The heating and cooling
My father has a 1992, 1996, 1998 all with over 500k on them these trucks have worked in the oil patch been run hard, pulled hard, they still produce awesome heat, the ac works wonderful, but as any vehicle the ac needs to be recharged.
As for the interior, all dashboards are intact not a crack, I have actually never seen a poor dashboard. The seats have broken down, but that is it. I live where 40 below can be normal.
I have a 2006 I have no problem with the interior, the heat and ac work perfect.
My family has been dodge since dirt as you can't beat the cummins engine.
Also ford did take bailout money, atleast they did in Canada.
Note: Ford did not take "Federal Bail Out Money" in The U.S. However, Chrysler which is Dodge Corporate Parent has been "bailed out" by U.S. Taxpayers at least twice. Once in the late '80s when Lee Iacocca left Ford to head Chrysler's Restructure and later in 07-08 or and is currently owned primarily owned by Fiat an Italian Automaker................
Chevrolet has actually repaid their Federal Bailout Money.
And ask Dodge Owners in Texas and other Southern States (hot!) about their dashboards..................... |
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I'm not opinionated
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Location: Online | When I can catch myself (just today) going 90 mph in a 30+ mph head wind with a loaded 5 horse in my Ford, I think it has plenty of power to do whatever I want it to...... Nuff said. Although my mileage went in the toilet.....
And it's NOT a 6.0...... I would have been going backwards in that wind in the 6.0 I had. 
I have yet to have a dodge pass me that I didn't want to pass me. |
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Location: BFE | WHAT were you getting in That Ford doing 90 today MPG That is Let me Guess 8 MPG NO Diesel Truck is made to Run 90 Miles an hour Good Luck On it holding up for the LONG HAUL!!!!! |
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| My dad worked for the government for 30 years they used dodge trucks gas teucks and they lasted forever, i had a first generation for diesel 6.9 it stayed at the dealers they put 2 transmissions in it and at 50k that trans was staeting to,slip we sold it and got out of it. I dont know i never said anything about the 7.3s they are good trucks the powerstrokes are good trucks also. The 6.0 are good trucks too if yiu do a bunch of stuff to,them. One of my customers work for virginia powers they have tons of trucks, theymgot tired of fixing the fords, went with dodges and he said he has not had any problems with dodges and thye started changing over 3 years ago. Not talking about the body, the wheels, or anytning other than motor. He said the dodges are great no problems, they use as a work truck. |
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I'm not opinionated
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Location: Online | Falcon1 - 2014-03-30 7:05 PM WHAT were you getting in That Ford doing 90 today MPG That is Let me Guess 8 MPG NO Diesel Truck is made to Run 90 Miles an hour Good Luck On it holding up for the LONG HAUL!!!!!
LOL! I didn't say it was a sustained 90...... I had to set the cruise at 75. My point is it will run away if I'm not watching my speed...... SHEESH!
We all know what a truck will get for mileage driving loaded at 90 in a head wind. Any truck will get single digits...... (Nobody try to convince me your Dodge will get better than that because I've pulled the same trailer with a Dodge and it was the same..... ) Just sayin'. |
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