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Location: Arkansas | I know there has been an insane amount of threads over ulcers, and I've read them, but I wanted to hear yalls current opinions.
So I have a horse who is unusually cinchy and is very sore on his heartgirth, withers and lower back where the spine ties into the pelvis. Its like a light bulb went off yesterday that he probably has ulcers!! Ive changed cinches and adjusted my saddle to different positions to see if it helped, but it didnt. He also gets very nervous and upset when we go to barrel races, which is very unlike him!!
I have picked up some pepto bismal and some OTC Omeprazole tabs from the store (I know it may not be of much help) but was wondering what doses I could use of those as a temporary aide until I can order something else? What other Ulcer treatment/ preventatives have worked for yall? Thanks in advance! |
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Location: Arkansas | melaself - 2014-03-28 11:51 AM
If I were you, I'd spend $150 to treat him for a full month with Ulcer Cure OTC. You can order it from ulcercureotc.com
yikes! That's pricey! I think Im going to see if the pepto and Omeprazole tabs do anything first; If I notice a difference I will order some... Is that a paste that you have to give orally every day? |
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Location: Mississippi | My vet had me try maximum strenght Maalox to see if it made a difference in my mare. 60cc orally three times day. I think we did it for two or three days. |
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Location: Arkansas | wildride - 2014-03-28 12:13 PM My vet had me try maximum strenght Maalox to see if it made a difference in my mare. 60cc orally three times day. I think we did it for two or three days.
So this wasn't for treatment; just to see if ulcers were present?? |
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| Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-28 12:08 PM
melaself - 2014-03-28 11:51 AM
If I were you, I'd spend $150 to treat him for a full month with Ulcer Cure OTC. You can order it from ulcercureotc.com
yikes! That's pricey! I think Im going to see if the pepto and Omeprazole tabs do anything first; If I notice a difference I will order some... Is that a paste that you have to give orally every day?
It a powder you top dress with a little feed.
It's not pricey, as if you buy gastro guard is it 20-30/tube for 30 days so 600-900/month.
From my experience nothing else works except omeprazole and nothing is as cheap as ulcercureotc.
As soon as mine get cinchy, they go onto ulcer meds. I have two that are prone. |
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Location: Arkansas | cheryl makofka - 2014-03-28 12:34 PM Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-28 12:08 PM melaself - 2014-03-28 11:51 AM If I were you, I'd spend $150 to treat him for a full month with Ulcer Cure OTC. You can order it from ulcercureotc.com yikes! That's pricey! I think Im going to see if the pepto and Omeprazole tabs do anything first; If I notice a difference I will order some... Is that a paste that you have to give orally every day? It a powder you top dress with a little feed. It's not pricey, as if you buy gastro guard is it 20-30/tube for 30 days so 600-900/month. From my experience nothing else works except omeprazole and nothing is as cheap as ulcercureotc. As soon as mine get cinchy, they go onto ulcer meds. I have two that are prone.
That is a big difference! I just don't have much experience with this so I am clueless. I do feed ACV and Aloe on a regular basis and it seems to help him. He had been a bit sensitive under his heartgirth for a little while, nothing too serious. When I work him hard or go to a barrel race I can tell it gets worse. |
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Location: Arkansas | cheryl makofka - 2014-03-28 12:34 PM Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-28 12:08 PM melaself - 2014-03-28 11:51 AM If I were you, I'd spend $150 to treat him for a full month with Ulcer Cure OTC. You can order it from ulcercureotc.com yikes! That's pricey! I think Im going to see if the pepto and Omeprazole tabs do anything first; If I notice a difference I will order some... Is that a paste that you have to give orally every day? It a powder you top dress with a little feed. It's not pricey, as if you buy gastro guard is it 20-30/tube for 30 days so 600-900/month. From my experience nothing else works except omeprazole and nothing is as cheap as ulcercureotc. As soon as mine get cinchy, they go onto ulcer meds. I have two that are prone.
another question, why can't you just put it on top of their whole feed ration? Why do you mix it with a small amount of feed? |
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| Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-28 12:39 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-03-28 12:34 PM Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-28 12:08 PM melaself - 2014-03-28 11:51 AM If I were you, I'd spend $150 to treat him for a full month with Ulcer Cure OTC. You can order it from ulcercureotc.com yikes! That's pricey! I think Im going to see if the pepto and Omeprazole tabs do anything first; If I notice a difference I will order some... Is that a paste that you have to give orally every day? It a powder you top dress with a little feed. It's not pricey, as if you buy gastro guard is it 20-30/tube for 30 days so 600-900/month. From my experience nothing else works except omeprazole and nothing is as cheap as ulcercureotc. As soon as mine get cinchy, they go onto ulcer meds. I have two that are prone.
After the first week I do mix it in or if I don't have enough time, I do, but I believe the research showed better results giving it on an empty stomach.
I suggest messaging Douglas Gordan as he is the owner/distributor he can answer all your questions |
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Location: Arkansas | cheryl makofka - 2014-03-28 12:53 PM Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-28 12:39 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-03-28 12:34 PM Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-28 12:08 PM melaself - 2014-03-28 11:51 AM If I were you, I'd spend $150 to treat him for a full month with Ulcer Cure OTC. You can order it from ulcercureotc.com yikes! That's pricey! I think Im going to see if the pepto and Omeprazole tabs do anything first; If I notice a difference I will order some... Is that a paste that you have to give orally every day? It a powder you top dress with a little feed. It's not pricey, as if you buy gastro guard is it 20-30/tube for 30 days so 600-900/month. From my experience nothing else works except omeprazole and nothing is as cheap as ulcercureotc. As soon as mine get cinchy, they go onto ulcer meds. I have two that are prone. After the first week I do mix it in or if I don't have enough time, I do, but I believe the research showed better results giving it on an empty stomach. I suggest messaging Douglas Gordan as he is the owner/distributor he can answer all your questions
Okay, thanks! That makes sense! |
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Location: My Own Little World | A friend of mine tried the "cheap" route by getting the omeprazol from Wa Mart and she said by the time you got the correct dosage that was equine sized, it cost more than just getting it from Doug on here |
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Location: Florida | To those that have tried the Ulcer Cure how long does it take for you to start noticing a difference? I am thinking about trying it.
Also I see after you first do it that you go into "maintenance". Is there ever an end in sight on when they can go off it? Thanks. |
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Location: Arkansas | rodeorun68 - 2014-03-28 1:06 PM A friend of mine tried the "cheap" route by getting the omeprazol from Wa Mart and she said by the time you got the correct dosage that was equine sized, it cost more than just getting it from Doug on here
Yeah, thats what I had read too.... I just got some as a temp thing to see if it even helped. I gave him 10 pills earlier, which is probably nowhere close to what he needs! But I figured anything would help! |
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Location: Muskogee, OK | What you have to be very careful about when deciding with the mass amounts of Ulcer treatments out there---is whether or not they are enteric formulations. If they arent enterically coated to get through the stomach and absorbed in the small intestine, they aren't going to do anything for you!
The only enterically formulated Ulcer Treatment out there that I know of is UlcerGard---they spent a lot of time researching this formulation and it WORKS. People will tell you just to go and buy Omeprazole from a compounding pharmacy or something of the like, but most of the time these are NOT enterically coated and will not be absorbed. Basically wasted money.
Hope this helps! This was something I recently learned in my performance horse veterinary medicine class and it was something I had never thought about before. Kind of surprised me! |
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Location: Sunny So Cal | I use THE GastroPLUS, works the fastest, most cost effective and no adverse affects I can see. You usually only need 1 bag of it, sometimes 2 if the ulcers are really bad. Then if you want you can go on an ulcer prevent for an extra $5 added to your supplement. Keeps my horses happy and healthy. |
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Location: in my box with all my colors! | my mare has ulcers and I did the 150.00 treatment with no symptoms for about 7 months, I used a compound. So this bout I chose to use Oxymax, it is a treatment and preventive. so far so good, eating all her feed and not looking like she doesnt feel well. She is cleaning her bowl and licking it clean, also feeding about 6 alfalfa cubes as I have read that it buffers the stomach. Alfalfa hay will stay longer in the belly than cubes, but havent heard good on the pellets as it has been crushed down. My mare is a very picky eater as it had seemed but I think the ulcers played a huge part in it. Good luck it can rattle your brain for sure!! |
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| Cowgirl Kat - 2014-03-28 3:35 PM
I use THE GastroPLUS, works the fastest, most cost effective and no adverse affects I can see. You usually only need 1 bag of it, sometimes 2 if the ulcers are really bad. Then if you want you can go on an ulcer prevent for an extra $5 added to your supplement. Keeps my horses happy and healthy.
Second! Comes with money back guarantee too! |
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Location: ND | Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-28 12:08 PM
melaself - 2014-03-28 11:51 AM
If I were you, I'd spend $150 to treat him for a full month with Ulcer Cure OTC. You can order it from ulcercureotc.com
yikes! That's pricey! I think Im going to see if the pepto and Omeprazole tabs do anything first; If I notice a difference I will order some... Is that a paste that you have to give orally every day?
GastroGard comes as a paste.. I treated with Gastrogard and do maintenance with the UlcerCure OTC, both are great products! I have seen the results with both.. I just like the Gastrogard to treat because my mare can be picky at what she will eat, but she does eat the UlcerCure with no problem! |
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | horselover_jenn - 2014-03-28 1:11 PM To those that have tried the Ulcer Cure how long does it take for you to start noticing a difference? I am thinking about trying it. Also I see after you first do it that you go into "maintenance". Is there ever an end in sight on when they can go off it? Thanks.
After you dose for ulcers you can stop, but following up with maintenance is a good idea. If a horse is prone to get ulcers they will get them again. Many of my clients after they treat for ulcers then they just treat with maintenance just a day of so before they haul and while they are away racing.
Some treat for Ulcers and then stop and wait for symptoms to show again on a prone horse.
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Location: Arkansas | Thank you all for the comments and info! It has helped a lot.
When yall say "buffer the stomach", do you mean reduce acid production? Like someone said in a post that alfalfa buffers the stomach.
Would this mean that it would help more if I feed Alfalfa cubes with the ulcer treatment? |
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| Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-30 2:09 PM
Thank you all for the comments and info! It has helped a lot.
When yall say "buffer the stomach", do you mean reduce acid production? Like someone said in a post that alfalfa buffers the stomach.
Would this mean that it would help more if I feed Alfalfa cubes with the ulcer treatment?
You need the buffer with the omeprazole so it can pass into the intestine to be absorbed.
Yes alfalfa will help to reduce the acid in the stomach it is a natural buffer, but alfalfa alone will not cure ulcers.
The other thing that will help prevent ulcers is to get rid of highly fermentable foods such as whole oats, feed more fat such as flax (remember everything in moderation)
Also try and keep hay in front of them at all times, horses were designed to constantly eat. |
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Location: Arkansas | cheryl makofka - 2014-03-30 2:22 PM Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-30 2:09 PM Thank you all for the comments and info! It has helped a lot.
When yall say "buffer the stomach", do you mean reduce acid production? Like someone said in a post that alfalfa buffers the stomach.
Would this mean that it would help more if I feed Alfalfa cubes with the ulcer treatment? You need the buffer with the omeprazole so it can pass into the intestine to be absorbed. Yes alfalfa will help to reduce the acid in the stomach it is a natural buffer, but alfalfa alone will not cure ulcers. The other thing that will help prevent ulcers is to get rid of highly fermentable foods such as whole oats, feed more fat such as flax (remember everything in moderation ) Also try and keep hay in front of them at all times, horses were designed to constantly eat.
Well I knew alfalfa wouldn't cure alone, but if it helps the omeprazole do its job, I am willing to try it.
Also, I am currently feeding Omolene 200 with 1/4c aloe vera and 1/4c Apple Cider Vinegar. If I remember correctly, the sugar in the sweet feed irritates the ulcers and makes them worse. So would it be more practical to just switch his feed to say SafeChoice or another pelleted feed with less sugar and starch? It would be hard to switch him over where I keep him now, so if it is absolutely neccessary for him to heal, I will do it. |
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| Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-30 2:33 PM
cheryl makofka - 2014-03-30 2:22 PM Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-30 2:09 PM Thank you all for the comments and info! It has helped a lot.
When yall say "buffer the stomach", do you mean reduce acid production? Like someone said in a post that alfalfa buffers the stomach.
Would this mean that it would help more if I feed Alfalfa cubes with the ulcer treatment? You need the buffer with the omeprazole so it can pass into the intestine to be absorbed. Yes alfalfa will help to reduce the acid in the stomach it is a natural buffer, but alfalfa alone will not cure ulcers. The other thing that will help prevent ulcers is to get rid of highly fermentable foods such as whole oats, feed more fat such as flax (remember everything in moderation ) Also try and keep hay in front of them at all times, horses were designed to constantly eat.
Also, I am currently feeding Omolene 200 with 1/4c aloe vera and 1/4c Apple Cider Vinegar. If I remember correctly, the sugar in the sweet feed irritates the ulcers and makes them worse. So would it be more practical to just switch his feed to say SafeChoice or another pelleted feed with less sugar and starch? It would be hard to switch him over where I keep him now, so if it is absolutely neccessary for him to heal, I will do it.
He will heal with the omeprazole, the other stuff changing feeds, increasing fat, alfalfa this is all a preventative measure. I don't use aloe Vera, I use papaya puréed 1/4 cup daily as my vet found research articles stating papaya is clinically proven to cure ulcers, it is also a natural dewormer. It is more pricey then the aloe Vera but I find it works |
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Location: Arkansas | cheryl makofka - 2014-03-30 3:11 PM Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-30 2:33 PM cheryl makofka - 2014-03-30 2:22 PM Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-30 2:09 PM Thank you all for the comments and info! It has helped a lot.
When yall say "buffer the stomach", do you mean reduce acid production? Like someone said in a post that alfalfa buffers the stomach.
Would this mean that it would help more if I feed Alfalfa cubes with the ulcer treatment? You need the buffer with the omeprazole so it can pass into the intestine to be absorbed. Yes alfalfa will help to reduce the acid in the stomach it is a natural buffer, but alfalfa alone will not cure ulcers. The other thing that will help prevent ulcers is to get rid of highly fermentable foods such as whole oats, feed more fat such as flax (remember everything in moderation ) Also try and keep hay in front of them at all times, horses were designed to constantly eat.
Also, I am currently feeding Omolene 200 with 1/4c aloe vera and 1/4c Apple Cider Vinegar. If I remember correctly, the sugar in the sweet feed irritates the ulcers and makes them worse. So would it be more practical to just switch his feed to say SafeChoice or another pelleted feed with less sugar and starch? It would be hard to switch him over where I keep him now, so if it is absolutely neccessary for him to heal, I will do it. He will heal with the omeprazole, the other stuff changing feeds, increasing fat, alfalfa this is all a preventative measure. I don't use aloe Vera, I use papaya puréed 1/4 cup daily as my vet found research articles stating papaya is clinically proven to cure ulcers, it is also a natural dewormer. It is more pricey then the aloe Vera but I find it works
That's interesting... I may just add alfalfa to his feed and treat with omeprazole until Im able to switch his feed. Apparently the ulcercureotc has worked for others, so I will give it a try! |
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Location: Arkansas | Another question, will probiotics help an ulceric horse? Have yall tried the probios from tractor supply?? |
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| Brrlracengirl - 2014-03-30 8:01 PM
Another question, will probiotics help an ulceric horse? Have yall tried the probios from tractor supply??
Yes, it aids in producing the "good" bacteria to encourage healthier digestion. I used probios on an ulcer horse and he seemed to improve. |
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Location: Stillwater, OK | I would quit wasting my money on the prilosec and just go and buy some horse formulated omeprazole. If I remember correctly, it takes about 30 pills of prilosec to hit the horse dose. That is going to cost you more money than Ulcergard will run.
I did find a research article (which of course, I can't find again for you) about omeprazole and the Smart Pak Smart Gut Ultra (SGU). The paper found that when a horse was treated with ulcers and fed the SGU, there was a slightly increased efficiency of healing of the ulcers, however, the greatest effects of the SGU were noted after the omeprazole treatment ended. Horses fed SGU (during and after omeprazole treatment) were found to have been much less likely to have their ulcers reoccur while on SGU. The even bigger thing that I like about this SGU is that they offer their Colic Care guarantee. So basically, while your horse is on SGU, if they colic and require surgery, Smart Pak will give you $7500 towards your colic surgery! That is HUGE to me seeing as my horses are not insured! |
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Location: Bandera, TX | I just spent a bunch of money on ulcer meds yesterday: I got a few tubes of GastroGard to start her off and a tub of omeprazole. She will also get alfalfa for lunch now. In addition, I will probably start her on Succeed to treat her hind-gut in the next couple of weeks. What bugs me the most is that this horse has been on an ulcer preventative for the past 5 years, as well as a low starch diet.  |
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Location: Arkansas | I have ordered the Ulcercure OTC so its on the way and I went to TSC today and picked up some Dumor Alfalfa cubes and Probios, which I started feeding today. I went ahead and fed the alfalfa and probios an hour before his grain, just so I can start getting him in the routine of the Ulcercure. Plus I want to get the alfalfa in there to help slow acid production before he gets grain. I've read up on the digestive system and ulcers and have learned a lot!! Thanks again for all of yalls input! If there is anything else, please feel free to share! I realize there is so much that I have yet to learn.  |
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Location: Arkansas | GoMistyGo - 2014-03-31 10:52 AM I just spent a bunch of money on ulcer meds yesterday: I got a few tubes of GastroGard to start her off and a tub of omeprazole. She will also get alfalfa for lunch now. In addition, I will probably start her on Succeed to treat her hind-gut in the next couple of weeks. What bugs me the most is that this horse has been on an ulcer preventative for the past 5 years, as well as a low starch diet.
Oh I hope everything works out for you! It stinks when you try to prevent something like that and it happens anyways! |
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