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Location: Arkansas | For about an hour, and my horse was LAME when I took them off. It's the first time I've ever tried BOT and was wanting to buy the bell boots but now..? Anyone else have this happen? When I asked the lady whose I tried, she said her horse did the same thing.
Also going to add, this horse had been injected two years ago but hadn't needed injected since. |
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Location: PA | No - never had one come up sore . I also have the hock boots for an older barrel horse with sore hocks . She is much better after wearing her boots and doesnt mind me putting them on her either . Could the boots possibly been too tight ? |
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Location: Where the stars at night are big and bright, TX | Nope, never had that happen. All they do is reflect the horses own body heat. Maybe your horse needed cold therapy instead of heat therapy. |
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| That is odd...I have a BOT shirt and a knee brace and I think they both feel great, knee especially I've noticed a big difference.
Too tight? Did he work out of it? |
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Location: Arkansas | I had ridden him about an hour and a half before I put it on him. He was cooled out and had walked kids around the arena a few times. He was fine when I tied him to the fence. When I put them on he had been tied up for a bout 30 ,minutes while everyone was roping and stayed there with them on while we roped. I didn't think they were on tight. I thought they fit perfectly but I could be wrong. It was the first time for him to ever have any BOT on him. I didn't know if this was an indication of something or if it was common? This horse usually has to have his coffin joints injected so I wanted to try the BOT bell boots. I am kind of scared to now. I have never heard anything bad about them, but he was dead shot lame when I took them off and walked him to the house. He seems fine this morning. I am not against this product; I just want to figure out why it did this to him. I thought maybe it was something that he had to get accustomed too? I appreciate your replies. |
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Location: Arkansas | Could be. I typically have only cold hosed or iced after workouts.
ETA: Sorry, I thought I had hit the quote button.
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| I use the hock boots on both of my barrel horses. I usually leave them on overnight. Both of my horses always feel better after having them on. I would guess you probably had them on too tight. You want to leave the top strap a little loose, so the horse can comfortably move its leg. The other two straps should be snug. |
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Location: Arkansas | I will try them again this evening and try putting them on looser, and see how that works. I really hope that is the problem. |
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| Esther - 2014-03-31 7:02 AM
I had ridden him about an hour and a half before I put it on him. He was cooled out and had walked kids around the arena a few times. He was fine when I tied him to the fence. When I put them on he had been tied up for a bout 30 ,minutes while everyone was roping and stayed there with them on while we roped. I didn't think they were on tight. I thought they fit perfectly but I could be wrong. It was the first time for him to ever have any BOT on him. I didn't know if this was an indication of something or if it was common? This horse usually has to have his coffin joints injected so I wanted to try the BOT bell boots. I am kind of scared to now. I have never heard anything bad about them, but he was dead shot lame when I took them off and walked him to the house. He seems fine this morning. I am not against this product; I just want to figure out why it did this to him. I thought maybe it was something that he had to get accustomed too? I appreciate your replies.
call and talk to Wendy at BOT. she is super friendly and informative. Maybe she could give you some ideas as to why that happened
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| I had the same thing happen,,,back leg swelled up on my horse ,,the first and last time I tried them,,,only 1 leg and then he was even stumbling and lame,,,I sold mine not gonna mess with lameness ,,,,he has never had any other problems with his leg other than that
I also didn't like how bad he sweated with the sheet,,,maybe just me but I have all the magnets and love them!! to those of you who love bot,,,GREAT!! is just not for me
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Location: At home with the rents, somewhere in Indiana | The first pair of BOT hock wraps I had were the ones without the padding, and they rubbed a sore on her hock. I traded them in for the Royals with padding and haven't had a problem since. She is BOT from nose to tail and hasn't ever had a problem with soreness. I love their products!! |
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Location: Arkansas | gosweetfancy - 2014-03-31 10:30 AM Esther - 2014-03-31 7:02 AM I had ridden him about an hour and a half before I put it on him. He was cooled out and had walked kids around the arena a few times. He was fine when I tied him to the fence. When I put them on he had been tied up for a bout 30 ,minutes while everyone was roping and stayed there with them on while we roped. I didn't think they were on tight. I thought they fit perfectly but I could be wrong. It was the first time for him to ever have any BOT on him. I didn't know if this was an indication of something or if it was common? This horse usually has to have his coffin joints injected so I wanted to try the BOT bell boots. I am kind of scared to now. I have never heard anything bad about them, but he was dead shot lame when I took them off and walked him to the house. He seems fine this morning. I am not against this product; I just want to figure out why it did this to him. I thought maybe it was something that he had to get accustomed too? I appreciate your replies. call and talk to Wendy at BOT. she is super friendly and informative. Maybe she could give you some ideas as to why that happened 1-888-758-9836
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| I've been using BOT hock boots on my gelding for about a month now. Never showed any signs of lameness with them on, he now wears them overnight every day. His soreness has improved 100% and he feels better than ever.
It could be that your horse needs a different type of therapy. I would check with your vet and see what he/she thinks is best before spending any more on therapy products. |
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Location: So. Cali. | I know in the instructions it states to introduce them to horses in short periods of time. (not saying you didn't because an hour is less than their recommended 2 hours first intial use). But it does go on to say some horses can become sore when first introduced to them. I have the hock wraps, bell boots, and saddle pad, and have not had any soreness/lameness after use. But I am assuming it has happened per how their instructions are worded.
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Location: So. Cali. | These instructions are on the UK site, couldnt find it on the general one. I'm pretty sure the ones that come with the products now say 2 hours max the first few times, but I could very well be wrong
http://www.backontrack.com/uk/instructions-for-use/
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Location: In a happy place | Roseysbarrelhorses - 2014-03-31 10:32 AM I had the same thing happen,,,back leg swelled up on my horse ,,the first and last time I tried them,,,only 1 leg and then he was even stumbling and lame,,,I sold mine not gonna mess with lameness ,,,,he has never had any other problems with his leg other than that
I also didn't like how bad he sweated with the sheet,,,maybe just me but I have all the magnets and love them!! to those of you who love bot,,,GREAT!! is just not for me
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That's scary. |
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Location: Sperry, OK | barrelracr131 - 2014-03-31 10:32 AM I prefer to use mine before riding and cooling therapy after (like a poultice) I think this should be just the opposite. You want cooling (like alcohol mixed with mineral ice) to bring everything down tight. Then after the workout, use the BOT's to remove any imflammation caused by the workout. If everything is warmed up and loose when you start, that is when injuries have a greater chance of occuring. This is just my opinion.
ETA: The above is if you are using the leg boots for soft tissue, not the hock boots, sorry.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-03-31 1:19 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-03-31 10:32 AM I prefer to use mine before riding and cooling therapy after (like a poultice) I think this should be just the opposite. You want cooling (like alcohol mixed with mineral ice) to bring everything down tight. Then after the workout, use the BOT's to remove any imflammation caused by the workout. If everything is warmed up and loose when you start, that is when injuries have a greater chance of occuring. This is just my opinion.
ETA: The above is if you are using the leg boots for soft tissue, not the hock boots, sorry.
I'm not a BOT user but I cold hose my horses and try to cool them down after a run. I guess I don't understand the logic of trying to heat up an already hot horse after they run. JMO. |
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Location: Sperry, OK | CYA Ranch - 2014-03-31 2:01 PM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-03-31 1:19 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-03-31 10:32 AM I prefer to use mine before riding and cooling therapy after (like a poultice) I think this should be just the opposite. You want cooling (like alcohol mixed with mineral ice) to bring everything down tight. Then after the workout, use the BOT's to remove any imflammation caused by the workout. If everything is warmed up and loose when you start, that is when injuries have a greater chance of occuring. This is just my opinion.
ETA: The above is if you are using the leg boots for soft tissue, not the hock boots, sorry.
The BOT wraps use the horses body heat to remove any imflammation that might be in the applied area. So if your horse strained itself or anything during your run and just had some minor imflammation, the BOT wraps would remove it (kinda like a sweat to some degree) before it became a bigger issue. They increase circulation, so the blood flow removes the toxins/excess fluid from the area they are applied. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-03-31 2:07 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-03-31 2:01 PM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-03-31 1:19 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-03-31 10:32 AM I prefer to use mine before riding and cooling therapy after (like a poultice) I think this should be just the opposite. You want cooling (like alcohol mixed with mineral ice) to bring everything down tight. Then after the workout, use the BOT's to remove any imflammation caused by the workout. If everything is warmed up and loose when you start, that is when injuries have a greater chance of occuring. This is just my opinion.
ETA: The above is if you are using the leg boots for soft tissue, not the hock boots, sorry.
OK thank you for explaining that. I'm a PHT user so I haven't studied up on the BOT much. |
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Location: Arkansas | CYA Ranch - 2014-03-31 2:08 PM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-03-31 2:07 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-03-31 2:01 PM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-03-31 1:19 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-03-31 10:32 AM I prefer to use mine before riding and cooling therapy after (like a poultice) I think this should be just the opposite. You want cooling (like alcohol mixed with mineral ice) to bring everything down tight. Then after the workout, use the BOT's to remove any imflammation caused by the workout. If everything is warmed up and loose when you start, that is when injuries have a greater chance of occuring. This is just my opinion.
ETA: The above is if you are using the leg boots for soft tissue, not the hock boots, sorry.
I am like CYA with the cold hosing. So my question is, if you use BOT after a run do you cold hose after you use the BOT or is that enough? |
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Location: Here | Remember Anytime you apply heat to a fresh injury the results cannot be what you are wanting. Google has lots of information about effects of applying heat to fresh injurys. That being said I would not apply heat after a work out. |
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Location: Here | Esther - 2014-03-31 4:01 AM For about an hour, and my horse was LAME when I took them off. It's the first time I've ever tried BOT and was wanting to buy the bell boots but now..? Anyone else have this happen? When I asked the lady whose I tried, she said her horse did the same thing. Also going to add, this horse had been injected two years ago but hadn't needed injected since.
I know Nevertooold had the same problem with the Knee wrap on herself |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | SG. - 2014-03-31 3:16 PM Esther - 2014-03-31 4:01 AM For about an hour, and my horse was LAME when I took them off. It's the first time I've ever tried BOT and was wanting to buy the bell boots but now..? Anyone else have this happen? When I asked the lady whose I tried, she said her horse did the same thing. Also going to add, this horse had been injected two years ago but hadn't needed injected since. I know Nevertooold had the same problem with the Knee wrap on herself
I had it on for about 20 minutes and I was walking with it on and had it under my jeans. I couldn't get home soon enough to get it off. My knee blew up like crazy. It took days between icing and mags to get it down and for it to quit hurting.
I had wondered if I was allergic to the materials in it?
My husband tore his rotator cuff and he has been using ice, mags and a Pain X light. I bought him a BOT T-shirt to sleep in as some have said they got good results. He said it does nothing and has been sticking just using the above. |
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Location: Arkansas | I just got home from work and my horse is STILL limping. I hought this morning he was some better but he isnt. My husband is so mad at me right now. My question now is what could this have done to him in order for me to get him sound again and be comfortable? There's no heat in his legs anywhere and no obvious swelling. I'm at a loss. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Nevertooold - 2014-03-31 3:33 PM SG. - 2014-03-31 3:16 PM Esther - 2014-03-31 4:01 AM For about an hour, and my horse was LAME when I took them off. It's the first time I've ever tried BOT and was wanting to buy the bell boots but now..? Anyone else have this happen? When I asked the lady whose I tried, she said her horse did the same thing. Also going to add, this horse had been injected two years ago but hadn't needed injected since. I know Nevertooold had the same problem with the Knee wrap on herself
I had wondered if I was allergic to the materials in it?
My husband tore his rotator cuff and he has been using ice, mags and a Pain X light. I bought him a BOT T-shirt to sleep in as some have said they got good results. He said it does nothing and has been sticking just using the above.
I bought a tshirt for myself. I felt absolutely nothing either.
To the OP - I have no idea what to try now but here's a bump for you. |
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| Esther - 2014-04-01 12:47 PM
CYA Ranch - 2014-03-31 2:08 PM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-03-31 2:07 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-03-31 2:01 PM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-03-31 1:19 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-03-31 10:32 AM I prefer to use mine before riding and cooling therapy after (like a poultice) I think this should be just the opposite. You want cooling (like alcohol mixed with mineral ice) to bring everything down tight. Then after the workout, use the BOT's to remove any imflammation caused by the workout. If everything is warmed up and loose when you start, that is when injuries have a greater chance of occuring. This is just my opinion.
ETA: The above is if you are using the leg boots for soft tissue, not the hock boots, sorry.
This is the easiest/simplest way I have had it explained. BOT reflects the infrared heat waves back towards the horse which causes vasodilation (opens up the veins & arteries) which leads to increased circulation. For legs I usually cold horse directly after workout or run then apply BOT later like over night. There have been studies that show it is beneficial to bring the temperature of a horses tendons and ligaments down after exercise. |
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So I put BOT hock boots on today