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Location: Texas | http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/chicks+dashing+pride
Im trying to bring a stallion down here but have a lot of people say they'd never own a Chicks Beduino horse and I was just wondering why. I looked on here at previous threads but couldn't find a straight answer other than one person said hers gets frazzled easily.
Are they buckers? Mean? Dirty? Hard to train? Dense?
The horse I am asking about Ive ridden personally and LOVED him. If i had one bad thing to say about him was when he was over being ridden he started doing the prettiest flying lead changes LOL! He was a real character and I thoroughly enjoyed him. And from what ive heard his babies are good too.
Also I am talking about direct sons, daughters, or grand GET. Once they get past that it doesnt matter to me if CB is 3 or 30 generations back.
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Location: PNW | I love mine! He's got the biggest heart and super great personality. But he's a squirrely sucker: scared of his own shadow, sheep, turkeys, hay string, the pitchfork, that bumper sticker across the parking lot.... The list is a mile long.
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Location: Texas | svincent - 2014-04-01 12:33 AM
I love mine! He's got the biggest heart and super great personality. But he's a squirrely sucker: scared of his own shadow, sheep, turkeys, hay string, the pitchfork, that bumper sticker across the parking lot.... The list is a mile long.
But I think he will grow out of it
your reply made me laugh so loud I woke the dog up!! haha!
Is your guy a youngster? |
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Location: MD | http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pulling+punches I have this one in at the moment. Cool dude. Very easy to get along with, but he's not the sort that you could leave sit for a couple of weeks and then just go lope circles on. Very gritty, fast, can clock with the best of them, but you better ride him every other day and make him tow the line. So long as you do that, couldn't ask for a nicer one.
I also have a Special Crown Royal mare that belongs to a client that I have worked with for a couple of years now. Huge mare, pushing an honest 16.3 HH. She's a baby doll, but every once in a while, that one can crack her back and kick up her heels out of nowhere. I like the CB's overall, but from the ones that I have encountered through the years, he throws a certain sort of quirk. Just like with many other lines, it all takes all types of riders to either like/dislike the characteristics attributed to any bloodline. |
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Location: PNW | WrapSnap - 2014-04-01 12:52 AM
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/pulling+punches I have this one in at the moment. Cool dude. Very easy to get along with, but he's not the sort that you could leave sit for a couple of weeks and then just go lope circles on. Very gritty, fast, can clock with the best of them, but you better ride him every other day and make him tow the line. So long as you do that, couldn't ask for a nicer one.
I also have a Special Crown Royal mare that belongs to a client that I have worked with for a couple of years now. Huge mare, pushing an honest 16.3 HH. She's a baby doll, but every once in a while, that one can crack her back and kick up her heels out of nowhere. I like the CB's overall, but from the ones that I have encountered through the years, he throws a certain sort of quirk. Just like with many other lines, it all takes all types of riders to either like/dislike the characteristics attributed to any bloodline.
Ha "quirk"
Alicat - he's 7 almost 8. But he came off the track, first he raced then I guess compared to the other nutjobs he was "so calm" they used him as a pony horse for a while. He's really good about legitimately scary things like loudspeakers, children screaming, car alarms, etc. BUT LOOK OUT if a leaf looks at him the wrong way. He's an oddball, but I love him.
In the arena he is a worker - it's just the other 23 hours, 59 minutes and 43 seconds of the day you gotta worry about. |
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Location: SE KS | The story I got from an old timer on CB was that he was mean. Story went that he killed a guy. However, there probably is more to that story!!!!
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Location: Kansas | High strung from what I was told, but I wouldn't hesitate to own one with the ones I've seen that can flat out fly in the pen.
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Location: Western performance horse Hades | Statiscally, there are lot of other lines more successful in the barrel racing arena. The most successful barrel horses with Chicks Bedunio in their pedigrees have been out of daughters or have sires that were out of daughters. Direct siring sons don't fare so well statistically. |
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Location: Benton City, WA | The one's I have been around are tougher minded horses. Some of them are are hot, some of them are just plain dumb. It is not a bloodline that IMHO has ideal trainability for barrels, although I do think most of them can run. Again JMO. |
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| I have a son of Special Crown Royal love him to death. Laid back and good natured but he has gotten a wild hair up his behind and bucked pretty good with my boyfriend. Granted he only did it once and has never tried it with me or anybody else. I have been told they are hard to make futurity horses out of because they do not follow a training schedule very well which I believe because mine was just not coming along really great for a while then something clicked and he started clocking overnight. Also he is very honest since whatever clicked we have not gone backwards in training. I have never rode anything that can get across the pen like he can either (and I have a son of Tres Seis who has nothing on this one both off the track) I would get another in a heartbeat. Mine is out of a Runaway winner mare |
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| svincent - 2014-03-31 11:33 PM I love mine! He's got the biggest heart and super great personality. But he's a squirrely sucker: scared of his own shadow, sheep, turkeys, hay string, the pitchfork, that bumper sticker across the parking lot.... The list is a mile long. But I think he will grow out of it
Mine too! |
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| barrel_racing_angel - 2014-04-01 7:44 PM
The one's I have been around are tougher minded horses. Some of them are are hot, some of them are just plain dumb. It is not a bloodline that IMHO has ideal trainability for barrels, although I do think most of them can run. Again JMO.
Have you ever owned one or rode one? Jw |
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| I will say I do not think they fit with everyone. Trainers I have talked to that love them all agree you can't force them to do it. Can't pick on them over and over |
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Location: In a happy place | I loved everyone I have had. You do not pick on them, they won't take it. I would not hesitate to have another one. |
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Location: Benton City, WA | RoadToVegas - 2014-04-01 6:30 PM barrel_racing_angel - 2014-04-01 7:44 PM The one's I have been around are tougher minded horses. Some of them are are hot, some of them are just plain dumb. It is not a bloodline that IMHO has ideal trainability for barrels, although I do think most of them can run. Again JMO. Have you ever owned one or rode one? Jw
My SO owns one, we've taken several as outside horses, and my best friend has ran 4 of them. Should I get you her number for a personal reference? |
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Location: Big Blue Skies | Love mine. She is a hard worker, honest, and willing. Easy to teach. Could be hot in the wrong hands but good at the alley and does whatever I ask. |
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Location: Texas | Thanks everyone for the replies. I got to thinking and stupid me forget about the old man! He was an own son of CB too and was a wicked fast 1D horse even at 17. I remember I liked riding him but didnt like to handle him. He was a real turd. But was wicked fast...even faster than this horse lol.
Again thanks for the replies and to whoever said they weren't statistically as succesful in the barrel pen. I have to agree, you dont see many own sons or daughters. I also think in my opinion that he was an excellent brood mare sire :) But thats just me. I think the same thing of strawfly special lol |
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Location: PNW | Alicat0909 - 2014-04-01 10:50 PM
Thanks everyone for the replies. I got to thinking and stupid me forget about the old man! He was an own son of CB too and was a wicked fast 1D horse even at 17. I remember I liked riding him but didnt like to handle him. He was a real turd. But was wicked fast...even faster than this horse lol.
Again thanks for the replies and to whoever said they weren't statistically as succesful in the barrel pen. I have to agree, you dont see many own sons or daughters. I also think in my opinion that he was an excellent brood mare sire :) But thats just me. I think the same thing of strawfly special lol
I should have specified: my gelding is out of a DAUGHTER of Chicks Beduino - he's not an own son.
And I love him to pieces... My big red scaredy cat. :) |
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Location: Texas | everytime i picture your horse i lol!! |
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| That first pedigree doesn't actually exist. I'm sure this is the horse you are actually refering to http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/chicks+dashing+pride2 . |
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Location: PNW | Alicat0909 - 2014-04-02 12:46 AM
everytime i picture your horse i lol!!
I laugh at him a lot too. And do a lot of face-palming.  |
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| I have a one I love...he does have a quirk, as soon as I get him somewhere I have to saddle up and ride him around even if its for 10 minutes and he's fine the rest of the day...don't ride him around and he sets back at the trailer. He loves to work the cows and check fence too and is not spooky at all.
That's him in my profile pic!
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Location: Alberta | sorrel horse ranch - 2014-04-01 7:40 PM I loved everyone I have had. You do not pick on them, they won't take it. I would not hesitate to have another one. This sums up my experience with my beduino bred colt....he is a smart smart horse, very curious and willing...he was an EVIL colt bit,kick run away, but has turned around alot  .....as my chiropractor said, they aren't horses for just anyone and if you find one and make it work you'll have a heck of a horse.....
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Location: PNW | 3ToBurn - 2014-04-02 2:02 PM
I firmly believe that peoples opinions of Chick Beduino horses are in direct relation to the heaviness of their hands! Just because you can ride a horse doesn't mean you are a horseman/woman.
I 150% agree! And also YOUR temperament.
For example: my CB, I LOVE! But I'm also very laid back and easy going for the most part. When he gets scared, I just tell him to get over it and carry on. When he maybe sets back being tied - I ignore him. When he's being just goofy I laugh at him, and move on. I grew up riding equitation hunters and so I am VERY conscious of my hands.
My husband: can barely do anything with the gelding because they have the EXACT SAME PERSONALITIES. Both are very reactive and don't always think their next move through. My husband is very intelligent and horse-savvy (he played polo professionally in CA before he moved to Oregon), but when a horse spooks or does something silly my husband tends to blow it out of proportion which then makes the horse just carry on. My husband has never been allowed on my CB gelding because he has polo hands - and my gelding would spontaneously combust.
I love the CB horses, but I feel like sometimes they "insult" people and then those people end up blaming the horse instead of looking at maybe clashing personalities or mismatched styles. |
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | OK this is coming from a guy that is not a horseman. Some times these kinds of horses are to smart for their own good and people just can't figure them out.
Beduino, Chicks Beduino. In our area there was a TB stallion name Current Concept and his babies had issues but they could run.
Sometimes the horses are smarter than the people. |
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Location: PNW | Douglas J Gordon - 2014-04-02 6:56 PM
OK this is coming from a guy that is not a horseman. Some times these kinds of horses are to smart for their own good and people just can't figure them out.
Beduino, Chicks Beduino. In our area there was a TB stallion name Current Concept and his babies had issues but they could run.
Sometimes the horses are smarter than the people.
I totally agree - and it seems like the SCARY SMART horses are often the ones that get called dumb sonsabetches the most often. Lol
If my gelding was a person: he would be Sheldon from Big Bang Theory - picture THAT Alicat! Lol |
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| svincent - 2014-04-02 7:00 PM Douglas J Gordon - 2014-04-02 6:56 PM OK this is coming from a guy that is not a horseman. Some times these kinds of horses are to smart for their own good and people just can't figure them out. Beduino, Chicks Beduino. In our area there was a TB stallion name Current Concept and his babies had issues but they could run. Sometimes the horses are smarter than the people. I totally agree - and it seems like the SCARY SMART horses are often the ones that get called dumb sonsabetches the most often. Lol If my gelding was a person: he would be Sheldon from Big Bang Theory - picture THAT Alicat! Lol
Lol, you crack me up! |
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Location: PNW | Whiteboy - 2014-04-02 8:31 PM
svincent - 2014-04-02 7:00 PM Douglas J Gordon - 2014-04-02 6:56 PM OK this is coming from a guy that is not a horseman. Some times these kinds of horses are to smart for their own good and people just can't figure them out. Beduino, Chicks Beduino. In our area there was a TB stallion name Current Concept and his babies had issues but they could run. Sometimes the horses are smarter than the people. I totally agree - and it seems like the SCARY SMART horses are often the ones that get called dumb sonsabetches the most often. Lol If my gelding was a person: he would be Sheldon from Big Bang Theory - picture THAT Alicat! Lol
He's literally JUST. LIKE. SHELDON. A 16.3 hand, brand new penny red Sheldon. I really wish he could talk - I'd love to know what actually goes on in his head. Maybe I should have a psychic come talk to him.... |
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| Well I have a double bred Beduino mare that's quirky YES...every spring she's a handful! But she trys so hard for me I try to ignore her spunky personality |
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| I had an own son of CB. Bought him off the track. He could FLY. And TURN. Not an ounce of hot or mean in him. He was super tough minded though. Very stoic about pain, not opportunistic with kids, good solid rodeo horse. 16h, gray, looked like CB reincarnate. Out of anEasy Jet/FanDancer mare. Once in a lifetime kind of horse for me. I personally don't get the bad rap. But then, I'm a quiet rider and not heavy handed or prone to picking. |
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Location: Texas | svincent - 2014-04-02 7:00 PM
Douglas J Gordon - 2014-04-02 6:56 PM
OK this is coming from a guy that is not a horseman. Some times these kinds of horses are to smart for their own good and people just can't figure them out.
Beduino, Chicks Beduino. In our area there was a TB stallion name Current Concept and his babies had issues but they could run.
Sometimes the horses are smarter than the people.
I totally agree - and it seems like the SCARY SMART horses are often the ones that get called dumb sonsabetches the most often. Lol
If my gelding was a person: he would be Sheldon from Big Bang Theory - picture THAT Alicat! Lol
Oh my I laughed so hard picturing your horse version of sheldon my sides hurt. Lmao! |
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| My avatar is my stud colt (2yrs) that is a grand son of CB on the dams side. SR Check Ta Fame he is calm, quiet and completely mild, easy to handle, fast learner. But dont pick.
My gelding I run is a GS of Beduino on the dams side, and is quirky, but fast.. you tolerate some things just because of what he can do... and I like the quirks... adds character and makes me laugh. |
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Location: TX | HorseMommyFiveO - 2014-04-02 10:12 PM
I had an own son of CB. Bought him off the track. He could FLY. And TURN. Not an ounce of hot or mean in him. He was super tough minded though. Very stoic about pain, not opportunistic with kids, good solid rodeo horse. 16h, gray, looked like CB reincarnate. Out of anEasy Jet/FanDancer mare. Once in a lifetime kind of horse for me. I personally don't get the bad rap. But then, I'm a quiet rider and not heavy handed or prone to picking.
I'm in 100% agreement with this statement. Mine was a son of CB out of a Alamitos Bar mare. Ran at the track and set a track record at the time, claimed, went to Marion Gramath, then to Kay Blandford...probably one of the best horses I've owned and would give anything to own another just like him!
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Location: Bessmer City NC | I LOVE MINE! he a grandson of cb & out of panchos tune... super laid back... never ran on the track that im aware of.. very soft and supple just got back from a 2.5 day josey clinic and boy was he sore and he let gary know he was super sore... kicking biting it was terrible... he will sit back at the trailer if i tie him and saddle and dont walk him off once you ride or walk him off hes fine... hes also funny about his splint boots... wants them on as little as possible. he does have his quirks... BUT I LOVE HIM! |
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Location: Kansas | A good friend of mine rides this mare - http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/i+want+a+vacation
Rossie is only 7 but I wouldn't say she's hot or quirky. She ran on the track a couple times but got hurt and wound up with Becky as a barrel prospect. Last spring she ran in the 2D all three days of the state NBHA show and has potential to be a 1D horse. Heck she ran at a rodeo or two last year and handled that atmosphere. I can't think of anything BAD about this mare other than she's legitimately 16.1 which means you need mountain climbing gear, a trampoline or a ladder to get on! |
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| I had a grandson who was very stubborn. If it weren't for his barrel pattern, he would have been the best horse I've ever owned. He was a complete sweetheart calm as could be on the ground- he was seriously awesome. I mean you could do anything with him. There was not one thing that I didn't love about that horse until I was on his back lol. I think someone seriously messed him up before I got him. He would decide he didn't want to go in the arena or wouldn't turn the first the first barrel. He wasn't dangerous about it- just stood there and you could not get that jerk to move no matter what you did. It stunk because he was probably the most athletically talented and fast horses I'll ever get to ride. That horse could lay down a pattern like the best of them when he wanted to. It was definitely a mental problem as we spent a lot of money trying to figure out any physical issues and there were none. And the guy I sold him to has never even had the horse hesitate at the first and is having trouble with the second after he slipped once at home. From what I've heard from other people who've owned Chicks Beduino horses is that if they are started right and end up with the right riders, they can be the best horses you've ever owned but if they've had bad experiences, they don't tend to forget or get over them easily if at all |
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Location: Texas | getacheck - 2014-04-02 11:12 PM
HorseMommyFiveO - 2014-04-02 10:12 PM
I had an own son of CB. Bought him off the track. He could FLY. And TURN. Not an ounce of hot or mean in him. He was super tough minded though. Very stoic about pain, not opportunistic with kids, good solid rodeo horse. 16h, gray, looked like CB reincarnate. Out of anEasy Jet/FanDancer mare. Once in a lifetime kind of horse for me. I personally don't get the bad rap. But then, I'm a quiet rider and not heavy handed or prone to picking.
I'm in 100% agreement with this statement. Mine was a son of CB out of a Alamitos Bar mare. Ran at the track and set a track record at the time, claimed, went to Marion Gramath, then to Kay Blandford...probably one of the best horses I've owned and would give anything to own another just like him!
So yeah...your horse is beautiful!!
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Location: Texas | Thanks for all the replies! I love what Im hearing so far. It sounds like any problems they do have is man made.
Guess Im lucky I found one that has been treated right! |
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Location: Where ever there's sunshine! | I have this guy
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/flashfire+at+six he's just coming four. Picked him up off the track in October and the. He injured him self. I got released to ride him in February and love him. He has a long way to go with his training but I'm very excited to see what he makes. He has a quirk...he's scared of shadows. I mean clear the area come out of his skin trembling terrified of shadows. I just keep telling him he's going to survive. It's all in his head lol this is great thread. I'm really enjoying it!! My guy goes back to Beduino twice, once through cb. |
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Location: Buffalo, TX | I had a grandaughter...very fast and athletic with a very long stride and a lot of grit....smart and eager to work.....I only sold her because she did need a lot of riding to keep her from being too fresh and I had 3 to ride, and there was no way I was selling my Desinger Red or my team penning horse, so she needed the most time, and I just didn't have that kind of time to devote anymore...
Here's a video of Chip running her for me in the dead of winter...there was an ice storm later that day and my trailer looked like the frozen tundra when I got home....she ran in a simple snaffle and no tie down, and was easy that way...
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Location: Texas | Cindy Hamilton - 2014-04-03 2:24 PM
I had a grandaughter...very fast and athletic with a very long stride and a lot of grit....smart and eager to work.....I only sold her because she did need a lot of riding to keep her from being too fresh and I had 3 to ride, and there was no way I was selling my Desinger Red or my team penning horse, so she needed the most time, and I just didn't have that kind of time to devote anymore...
Here's a video of Chip running her for me in the dead of winter...there was an ice storm later that day and my trailer looked like the frozen tundra when I got home....she ran in a simple snaffle and no tie down, and was easy that way...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rFzOUPzPiw
She's an athletic sucker! I dont think Ive ever seen a horse be able to accelerate as quickly as a CB horse can. They can flat out blow a hole in the wind lol |
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