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| I am not going but didnt plan on it either. Frankly, I am not hauling anywhere until this stuff seems to have settled. But we are disinfecting boots and change of clothes when we enter our barn, if we have been at another horse property. Obviously also not letting contact be made between horses more than necessary. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | We went through this in the west a couple years ago. Nobody really had to make decisions on whether to go or not go because all the producers were RESPONSABLE and cancelled everything untill it was clear. If it was me, I wouldnt take my horse anywhere if I was in the hot zone untill it was a 30 day clear. Just as we did before. No horses went anywhere and we all got it nipped really quickly. I guess you have to put the "But I was really excited to go" aside and ask yourself, if it's really worth the risk. It never is to me. I cant afford to pay huge vet bills all the time so I do what I can to minimize my risks and my horses are worth more then one or 2 barrel races. I leaned years ago there is ALWAYS another barrel race and if it's a special once a year race, well, it will be back next year. |
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| ThreeCorners - 2014-04-01 8:57 PM
We went through this in the west a couple years ago. Nobody really had to make decisions on whether to go or not go because all the producers were RESPONSABLE and cancelled everything untill it was clear. If it was me, I wouldnt take my horse anywhere if I was in the hot zone untill it was a 30 day clear. Just as we did before. No horses went anywhere and we all got it nipped really quickly. I guess you have to put the "But I was really excited to go" aside and ask yourself, if it's really worth the risk. It never is to me. I cant afford to pay huge vet bills all the time so I do what I can to minimize my risks and my horses are worth more then one or 2 barrel races. I leaned years ago there is ALWAYS another barrel race and if it's a special once a year race, well, it will be back next year.
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Location: Kansas | I am going and I'm oh so glad that Matt and I elected to tie ours out this year. We won't have to get ours nearly so close to any others as we would if we were stalling them so I'm hoping that will lessen our risk of exposure if any exposed horses are there.
Right now, my main dilemma is should we vaccinate them between now & next Friday or would it be better to wait until after the trip so we don't inadvertently weaken their immune systems right before the trip. My horses are probably about due for annual vaccinations and I think Matt's are due in a month, but I am not sure if vaccinating now will do us any good.
I plan to talk to my vet when I'm over there Thursday and pick his brain on the entire situation. The last time this flared up, I was headed to state NBHA and asked for Dr. Droge's opinion before I took my prized possessions to Topeka. |
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| rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-01 11:30 PM
I am going and I'm oh so glad that Matt and I elected to tie ours out this year. We won't have to get ours nearly so close to any others as we would if we were stalling them so I'm hoping that will lessen our risk of exposure if any exposed horses are there.
Right now, my main dilemma is should we vaccinate them between now & next Friday or would it be better to wait until after the trip so we don't inadvertently weaken their immune systems right before the trip. My horses are probably about due for annual vaccinations and I think Matt's are due in a month, but I am not sure if vaccinating now will do us any good.
I plan to talk to my vet when I'm over there Thursday and pick his brain on the entire situation. The last time this flared up, I was headed to state NBHA and asked for Dr. Droge's opinion before I took my prized possessions to Topeka.
My vet said to wait because the vaccines may compromise their immune systems. |
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Location: Midwest | I would wait to vaccinate. The horses would not yet have any immunity from the vaccines at that time and might still be in the inflammatory phase, which would indeed potentially compromise their immune response to a pathogen.
I think the risk is still fairly low at this point. With 9 sick, and no new cases, it is probably not as contagious a strain as originally thought. That is a good thing.
If going, I would probably spray down the stall with 70% bleach and let it sit for 15-20 minutes before letting my horse in, just to be safe. Keep an eye out for any horses there that look "off" and try to keep your distance from other horses if possible. Bleach buckets unknown horses have touched, etc etc.
The virus can be present in aerosols, but it is not "airborne". It does last a LONG time on surfaces though, so be conscious of that.
ETA PS I'm not a vet LOL... call and check with them to be safe. I'm shooting from the hip here
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Location: Kansas | That's what I was thinking - that their immune systems would still be compromised if we vaccinated now. With plans to tie out, we should be able to keep ours away from everyone else's horses more easily than if we were overnighting them in the stall barns. |
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Location: Midwest | 3canchaser01 - 2014-04-02 8:38 AM We were originally going to hold off vaccination, then the University of Mn and cleary decided it is best to vaccinate, call your vet.
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| We had plans to do spring shots for the 3 going to Lincoln prior to the outbreak so all of ours are done. Plus we are doing immune system boosters. Started them all on lysine.
Renea did say all the temp stalls were being disinfected and she was working with LEC to get the barns disinfected as well. I'll be taking along my own disinfectant too - bleach is not recommended by the way because of how fast manure and other things like shavings will break it down.
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| Here is what I am doing. I copy and pasted the draws in to excel and sorted them out by session and draw #. I copy and pasted the stall assignments and sorted them by pavillion and then by stall number.
I'm researching the people around me in the barns, to find out where they live, based on the draw info, which says city/state. I am researching the people who are in my drags based on city/state.
From looking through the info, there are only a handful of people (probably less than 25) from Minnesota and Wisconsin, which those two areas are the hot zone. I looked up the counties where the horses have been infected. They are about midway up the state on the MN/WI border.
It's quite a bit of work, but it's also giving me peace of mind. Do your research. I supposed I could email my Excel file to make your lives easier, but it took about an hour. |
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Location: Kansas | Nateracer - 2014-04-02 9:38 AM Here is what I am doing. I copy and pasted the draws in to excel and sorted them out by session and draw #. I copy and pasted the stall assignments and sorted them by pavillion and then by stall number.
I'm researching the people around me in the barns, to find out where they live, based on the draw info, which says city/state. I am researching the people who are in my drags based on city/state.
From looking through the info, there are only a handful of people (probably less than 25) from Minnesota and Wisconsin, which those two areas are the hot zone. I looked up the counties where the horses have been infected. They are about midway up the state on the MN/WI border.
It's quite a bit of work, but it's also giving me peace of mind. Do your research. I supposed I could email my Excel file to make your lives easier, but it took about an hour. That's not a bad idea with the excel sheet. It really didn't take too long. I can email mine to anyone if they want, just send me a PM and I'll ship the file off later today.
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| We are coming from WI and my horses have not left the farm since the first break out has was found. I am far from where the virus is in the state and my horses have not had contact with any others. This is our frist time going and it kinda sucks with this out break. Can we opt out of stall and tie? or can we tie out all day and put them in the stalls at night? That way I can do my cleaning job there and make sure I feel confortable and safe... |
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| Nateracer - 2014-04-02 10:38 AM
Here is what I am doing. I copy and pasted the draws in to excel and sorted them out by session and draw #. I copy and pasted the stall assignments and sorted them by pavillion and then by stall number.
I'm researching the people around me in the barns, to find out where they live, based on the draw info, which says city/state. I am researching the people who are in my drags based on city/state.
From looking through the info, there are only a handful of people (probably less than 25) from Minnesota and Wisconsin, which those two areas are the hot zone. I looked up the counties where the horses have been infected. They are about midway up the state on the MN/WI border.
It's quite a bit of work, but it's also giving me peace of mind. Do your research. I supposed I could email my Excel file to make your lives easier, but it took about an hour.
You are awesome...
Thanks for the idea, I have enough time at work to tackle this for the ones we are hauling. |
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Location: Kansas | MightyMic123 - 2014-04-02 9:50 AM We are coming from WI and my horses have not left the farm since the first break out has was found. I am far from where the virus is in the state and my horses have not had contact with any others. This is our frist time going and it kinda sucks with this out break. Can we opt out of stall and tie? or can we tie out all day and put them in the stalls at night? That way I can do my cleaning job there and make sure I feel confortable and safe... yes you can tie out except in the RV park. Matt and I didn't buy stalls and neither did my friend & sometimes hauling partner Becky so we are going to park our three trailers together and have our own little compound if possible LOL.
BTW if you are draw 173 in Friday night's open, Matt is in that drag & I will feel a lot better knowing you don't live near the outbreak.
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Location: WI | Dogs will carry/pass it, too. As well as 30ft airbourne. |
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Location: North Central Kansas | I'm going and stalling. Not too worried about it, but of course will be cautious. A couple years ago as Melanie said was at the same time as our State NBHA. I consulted my vet about it and decided to go. Didn't have any problems. I think a lot of it has to do with your horses immune system. Younger horses of course are not as immune as the younger. We are hauling a 6 and 7 year old so I'm a little bit my nervous than if I was hauling my old man. Overall I think you have to consult with your vet and make the decision for yourself. |
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Location: NW Arkansas | On FB Rene posted she was in the process of asking the facilities to spray stalls, stall mats, etc. with disinfectant. |
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Location: North Central Kansas | Wonder how many will opt not to go? |
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| ks_cowgirl - 2014-04-02 12:00 PM Wonder how many will opt not to go?
There's been several post stalls and RV spots for sale on FB pages. |
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| Rodeowithjoker, I am not 173, but I know that gal and you will be good to go with her!
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Nateracer - 2014-04-02 9:38 AM Here is what I am doing. I copy and pasted the draws in to excel and sorted them out by session and draw #. I copy and pasted the stall assignments and sorted them by pavillion and then by stall number.
I'm researching the people around me in the barns, to find out where they live, based on the draw info, which says city/state. I am researching the people who are in my drags based on city/state.
From looking through the info, there are only a handful of people (probably less than 25) from Minnesota and Wisconsin, which those two areas are the hot zone. I looked up the counties where the horses have been infected. They are about midway up the state on the MN/WI border.
It's quite a bit of work, but it's also giving me peace of mind. Do your research. I supposed I could email my Excel file to make your lives easier, but it took about an hour.
Oh good heavens Rae you are a Super Star!!! Way to do your homework. |
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Location: Iowa | Read the posts that the 2 vets put on the Bonus Run fb page about disinfectants. Bleach does not work. I'm going and I don't have any reservations about going. Go, enjoy and relax!!!! |
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Location: Smack Dab in the Middle | memory - 2014-04-02 2:36 PM
Read the posts that the 2 vets put on the Bonus Run fb page about disinfectants. Bleach does not work. I'm going and I don't have any reservations about going. Go, enjoy and relax!!!!
Yes, but just because they aren't recommending bleach doesn't mean they are saying don't disinfect your stall. My vet is one of the onsite vets, and she is bringing/selling disinfectant, and I will have some there as well incase she runs out. |
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| RockinGR - 2014-04-02 3:39 PM
memory - 2014-04-02 2:36 PM
Read the posts that the 2 vets put on the Bonus Run fb page about disinfectants. Bleach does not work. I'm going and I don't have any reservations about going. Go, enjoy and relax!!!!
Yes, but just because they aren't recommending bleach doesn't mean they are saying don't disinfect your stall. My vet is one of the onsite vets, and she is bringing/selling disinfectant, and I will have some there as well incase she runs out.
I don't think memory meant that you shouldn't disinfect, just that you shouldn't use bleach.
We're going, taking precautions and hopefully taking home checks! |
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| I'm not going, I have 4 entered, each one twice In the open and once in bonus round. It's going to hurt, lol, the huge expense I spent to go & now staying home, but no barrel race is worth my horses life.
It's too easy to spread & without a vaccination, for the neuro strain, I don't feel comfortable taking the risk.
I thought about not stalling but a coughing/sneezing horse can spread it 35',
From the research I've done.
I farm too though, so hopefully we'll be in the field and I'll feel better about being at home missing out! lol
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Location: Kansas | MightyMic123 - 2014-04-02 2:06 PM
Rodeowithjoker, I am not 173, but I know that gal and you will be good to go with her!
good deal! That's the only MN or WI entry in a drag with Matt or I. We aren't real social in the holding pens anyway but you never know when someone else's horse will decide to be your buddy so its good to know if potentially exposed horses are in that group. :) |
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Location: sunny california | Nateracer - 2014-04-02 7:38 AM Here is what I am doing. I copy and pasted the draws in to excel and sorted them out by session and draw #. I copy and pasted the stall assignments and sorted them by pavillion and then by stall number.
I'm researching the people around me in the barns, to find out where they live, based on the draw info, which says city/state. I am researching the people who are in my drags based on city/state.
From looking through the info, there are only a handful of people (probably less than 25) from Minnesota and Wisconsin, which those two areas are the hot zone. I looked up the counties where the horses have been infected. They are about midway up the state on the MN/WI border.
It's quite a bit of work, but it's also giving me peace of mind. Do your research. I supposed I could email my Excel file to make your lives easier, but it took about an hour.
did you research who was going to be loping in front of you in the warm up pen and as that horse blows your horse follows and lopes right through the cloud? |
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| For those stating your horses havent been in anywhere, thats not the issue. The issue is that other horses have and may infect yours. From the seminar a good friend attended, it can be spread up to 40' and since this is a mutated strain, i would never risk it. You can disinfect your stall but isnt going to change the infected areas throughout the whole barn.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | kwanatha - 2014-04-02 5:53 PM Nateracer - 2014-04-02 7:38 AM Here is what I am doing. I copy and pasted the draws in to excel and sorted them out by session and draw #. I copy and pasted the stall assignments and sorted them by pavillion and then by stall number.
I'm researching the people around me in the barns, to find out where they live, based on the draw info, which says city/state. I am researching the people who are in my drags based on city/state.
From looking through the info, there are only a handful of people (probably less than 25) from Minnesota and Wisconsin, which those two areas are the hot zone. I looked up the counties where the horses have been infected. They are about midway up the state on the MN/WI border.
It's quite a bit of work, but it's also giving me peace of mind. Do your research. I supposed I could email my Excel file to make your lives easier, but it took about an hour. did you research who was going to be loping in front of you in the warm up pen and as that horse blows your horse follows and lopes right through the cloud?
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kwanatha - 2014-04-02 5:53 PM
Nateracer - 2014-04-02 7:38 AM Here is what I am doing. I copy and pasted the draws in to excel and sorted them out by session and draw #. I copy and pasted the stall assignments and sorted them by pavillion and then by stall number.
I'm researching the people around me in the barns, to find out where they live, based on the draw info, which says city/state. I am researching the people who are in my drags based on city/state.
From looking through the info, there are only a handful of people (probably less than 25) from Minnesota and Wisconsin, which those two areas are the hot zone. I looked up the counties where the horses have been infected. They are about midway up the state on the MN/WI border.
It's quite a bit of work, but it's also giving me peace of mind. Do your research. I supposed I could email my Excel file to make your lives easier, but it took about an hour.
did you research who was going to be loping in front of you in the warm up pen and as that horse blows your horse follows and lopes right through the cloud?
What are you going to do when the person in front of you at Mcdonaldd has an infected horse, you touch same stuff they do and you take that home to your horses? I`m not being a smart ass but if its as bad as everyone says then I guess my hypothetical question could happen whether your horses stay home or not.
You wash your hands before touching your horses.
Yes, it can happen. Vets are advising NO visiting other barns, vets and farriers are taking precautions by wearing booties, sanitizing all tools before switching barns even wearing different boots before getting into their cars and lysoling steering wheels. If you do visit another barn you go home and change clothes and shower before even going near your horse.
I know a woman who's horse hasn't traveled since November with no other horses brought in and still contracted EVH-1. This is a mutant strain and I don't they really know all there is to know about this.
You're going to do what you want, but should seriously read up on all the information out there, and determine if a few bucks is worth the risk. I hope someone doesn't unknowingly bring a carrier horse and the virus spread through the whole country since this race is so big.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | 3canchaser01 - 2014-04-02 7:23 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-02 7:17 PM kwanatha - 2014-04-02 5:53 PM Nateracer - 2014-04-02 7:38 AM Here is what I am doing. I copy and pasted the draws in to excel and sorted them out by session and draw #. I copy and pasted the stall assignments and sorted them by pavillion and then by stall number.
I'm researching the people around me in the barns, to find out where they live, based on the draw info, which says city/state. I am researching the people who are in my drags based on city/state.
From looking through the info, there are only a handful of people (probably less than 25) from Minnesota and Wisconsin, which those two areas are the hot zone. I looked up the counties where the horses have been infected. They are about midway up the state on the MN/WI border.
It's quite a bit of work, but it's also giving me peace of mind. Do your research. I supposed I could email my Excel file to make your lives easier, but it took about an hour. did you research who was going to be loping in front of you in the warm up pen and as that horse blows your horse follows and lopes right through the cloud? What are you going to do when the person in front of you at Mcdonaldd has an infected horse, you touch same stuff they do and you take that home to your horses? I`m not being a smart ass but if its as bad as everyone says then I guess my hypothetical question could happen whether your horses stay home or not. You wash your hands before touching your horses. Yes, it can happen. Vets are advising NO visiting other barns, vets and farriers are taking precautions by wearing booties, sanitizing all tools before switching barns even wearing different boots before getting into their cars and lysoling steering wheels. If you do visit another barn you go home and change clothes and shower before even going near your horse. I know a woman who's horse hasn't traveled since November with no other horses brought in and still contracted EVH-1. This is a mutant strain and I don't they really know all there is to know about this. You're going to do what you want, but should seriously read up on all the information out there, and determine if a few bucks is worth the risk. I hope someone doesn't unknowingly bring a carrier horse and the virus spread through the whole country since this race is so big.
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| rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-01 11:30 PM
I am going and I'm oh so glad that Matt and I elected to tie ours out this year. We won't have to get ours nearly so close to any others as we would if we were stalling them so I'm hoping that will lessen our risk of exposure if any exposed horses are there.
Right now, my main dilemma is should we vaccinate them between now & next Friday or would it be better to wait until after the trip so we don't inadvertently weaken their immune systems right before the trip. My horses are probably about due for annual vaccinations and I think Matt's are due in a month, but I am not sure if vaccinating now will do us any good.
I plan to talk to my vet when I'm over there Thursday and pick his brain on the entire situation. The last time this flared up, I was headed to state NBHA and asked for Dr. Droge's opinion before I took my prized possessions to Topeka.
I am wondering if we will be able to tie out on grass and not asphalt or concrete. We are tying out Friday night and running Saturday. |
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| CYA Ranch - 2014-04-02 7:44 PM
3canchaser01 - 2014-04-02 7:23 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-02 7:17 PM kwanatha - 2014-04-02 5:53 PM Nateracer - 2014-04-02 7:38 AM Here is what I am doing. I copy and pasted the draws in to excel and sorted them out by session and draw #. I copy and pasted the stall assignments and sorted them by pavillion and then by stall number.
I'm researching the people around me in the barns, to find out where they live, based on the draw info, which says city/state. I am researching the people who are in my drags based on city/state.
From looking through the info, there are only a handful of people (probably less than 25) from Minnesota and Wisconsin, which those two areas are the hot zone. I looked up the counties where the horses have been infected. They are about midway up the state on the MN/WI border.
It's quite a bit of work, but it's also giving me peace of mind. Do your research. I supposed I could email my Excel file to make your lives easier, but it took about an hour. did you research who was going to be loping in front of you in the warm up pen and as that horse blows your horse follows and lopes right through the cloud? What are you going to do when the person in front of you at Mcdonaldd has an infected horse, you touch same stuff they do and you take that home to your horses? I`m not being a smart ass but if its as bad as everyone says then I guess my hypothetical question could happen whether your horses stay home or not. You wash your hands before touching your horses. Yes, it can happen. Vets are advising NO visiting other barns, vets and farriers are taking precautions by wearing booties, sanitizing all tools before switching barns even wearing different boots before getting into their cars and lysoling steering wheels. If you do visit another barn you go home and change clothes and shower before even going near your horse. I know a woman who's horse hasn't traveled since November with no other horses brought in and still contracted EVH-1. This is a mutant strain and I don't they really know all there is to know about this. You're going to do what you want, but should seriously read up on all the information out there, and determine if a few bucks is worth the risk. I hope someone doesn't unknowingly bring a carrier horse and the virus spread through the whole country since this race is so big.
I just think since this is KNOWN problem and vets are suggesting no travel, that we can argue all we want but everyone will make this decision on their own.
I am following vets recommendations. I do not think its worth the risk and I would rather miss showing now, versus all summer if they cant get a handle on it.
If you bring 500 horses to this race. and One is inefected and infects 10 of the 500 (small chance right). But then those 10 continue to the spread into 4 other states, boarding facilities, etc this will go on and on unless we stop the exposure. Just think its a good idea for producers to cancel or postpone. |
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Location: Iowa | RodkinGR- I'm not saying not to disinfect. I'm saying use the products mentioned by the vets. Everyone just have a good time and enjoy such a great event. |
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Location: western Nebraska | I didn't realize the vets are saying not to go now. When did this come out?
I guess I just thought they were saying to take some precautions. I always feed l-lysine-have for years. I vaccinated with Calvanza last Monday which my vet says isn't a vaccine for the virus but should help. I am going to try to stay away from the rest of the horses as much as I can. I guess now I need to think about it some more. |
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| doglady - 2014-04-03 12:27 AM
I didn't realize the vets are saying not to go now. When did this come out?
I guess I just thought they were saying to take some precautions. I always feed l-lysine-have for years. I vaccinated with Calvanza last Monday which my vet says isn't a vaccine for the virus but should help. I am going to try to stay away from the rest of the horses as much as I can. I guess now I need to think about it some more.
I am referring to Vets in Minnesota. They have all been updating and advising no travel for two weeks after last confirmed case. Last case was confirmed approx 5 days ago and we have another pending.
If you're looking for more info and have fb check out
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | doglady - 2014-04-03 12:27 AM I didn't realize the vets are saying not to go now. When did this come out?
I guess I just thought they were saying to take some precautions. I always feed l-lysine-have for years. I vaccinated with Calvanza last Monday which my vet says isn't a vaccine for the virus but should help. I am going to try to stay away from the rest of the horses as much as I can. I guess now I need to think about it some more.
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| OhMax - 2014-04-03 6:48 AM Frankly, we are listening to our vet - we trust our vet - and he's telling us to go. It would be nice to have a civil discussion among those of us who are going about the precautions we are taking and an exchange of ideas - not being bashed by people who have decided not to go. Just sayin'
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Location: Sperry, OK | Buy a gallon of SYNBIONT AG WASH. Spray down your stall and hallway in front of your stall before you put your horse in there.
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Location: Kansas | ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-04-03 8:33 AM Buy a gallon of SYNBIONT AG WASH. Spray down your stall and hallway in front of your stall before you put your horse in there.
FYI, I saw this product for sale at the Orscheln Farm & Home store when I went in yesterday. I figured it was probably only available in big cities or online but Iola, KS, has it so its readily available. Also some people on Facebook are buying the big jugs of it and selling individual gallons of it to others who are going. |
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Location: Sperry, OK | rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-03 8:41 AM ACEINTHEHOLE - 2014-04-03 8:33 AM Buy a gallon of SYNBIONT AG WASH. Spray down your stall and hallway in front of your stall before you put your horse in there.
I keep a gallon in my trailer. I use it for anything from cuts, fungus to thrush in their feet! |
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Location: North Branch MN | I personally know one of the first diagnosed cases. That being said, that horse has not left her property since November of 2013. She, herself, has been by and around other horses and that is the only way they can figure her horse contracted the virus. In Minnesota they are suggesting NO TRAVEL right now. If there are no new cases and noone from MN goes you should be good. Certain areas of MN have not been affected as of yet....the arrowhead etc. Please be careful. |
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Location: South Dakota | ThreeCorners - 2014-04-01 8:57 PM We went through this in the west a couple years ago. Nobody really had to make decisions on whether to go or not go because all the producers were RESPONSABLE and cancelled everything untill it was clear. If it was me, I wouldnt take my horse anywhere if I was in the hot zone untill it was a 30 day clear. Just as we did before. No horses went anywhere and we all got it nipped really quickly. I guess you have to put the "But I was really excited to go" aside and ask yourself, if it's really worth the risk. It never is to me. I cant afford to pay huge vet bills all the time so I do what I can to minimize my risks and my horses are worth more then one or 2 barrel races. I leaned years ago there is ALWAYS another barrel race and if it's a special once a year race, well, it will be back next year.
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Location: WI | Update today, I wish everyone in MN would take this seriously but unfortunately they are not...
EHV-1 UPDATE 4/3/14:
A horse in Wright County developed neurologic signs on 3/29 and was tested. A positive diagnosis was received this morning. All horses on this farm were tested to screen them for EHV-1. Of those tested additional horses came back positive for shedding the virus but they are not showing neurologic signs at this time. Those horses that are screened but not showing neurologic signs will be retested again in 3 weeks to determine shedding status.
This facility is taking this very seriously; they are in tight lock-down and are dressing in and dressing out when entering the barn etc. They have a very good quarantine protocol in place. To help with the understanding of “shedding” and what that means: EHV-1 non-neurologic form transfers via the respiratory system/breathing basically via air in closer proximity and on humans meaning on boots, barn equipment, clothing, etc. Of the horses that are positive shedders 25% will be neurologic and 75% will not, they will just shed. If one of those horses sheds to a new horse the same thing holds…25% of the new horses will be neurologic and 75% will not. We start the 2 week no travel again today, which is April 3rd. Meaning if there are NO more positive cases we are looking at April 17th. The only way to eliminate this virus is for everyone to keep their horses at home. Do not haul to and from trainers, lessons, shows, sales. Do not bring home new horses. Do not go to a horse event or barn without changing all your clothes, disinfecting your boots/hands etc. PLEASE NOTE: WE WOULD APPRECIATE ALL QUESTIONS BE DIRECTED TO JUSTINE@ANOKAEQUINE.COM. WE WOULD LIKE OUR PHONE LINES CLEAR FOR EMERGENCY CALLS AND NON-VIRUS ISSUES. WE INTEND FOR THIS TO BE INFORMATIONAL AND ASK THAT IT DOES NOT BECOME A DISCUSSION FORUM. THANKS SO MUCH. |
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Location: WI | Some people think because their horse is not showing signs they do not have it, but like the above post states 75% will not show signs AND STILL BE SHEDDING!! Only way to know is if you have the test done, not by temp, nasal, etc. That's why people need to stay home!!
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | linds - 2014-04-03 12:04 PM Update today, I wish everyone in MN would take this seriously but unfortunately they are not...EHV-1 UPDATE 4/3/14:. The only way to eliminate this virus is for everyone to keep their horses at home. Do not haul to and from trainers, lessons, shows, sales. Do not bring home new horses. Do not go to a horse event or barn without changing all your clothes, disinfecting your boots/hands etc.
Some are NOT understanding that they CAN spread the disease wihtout knowing that their horse is infected......When this happened a couple of years ago hitting the cutting/reining horses....MOST responsible producers cancelled or postponed their events and the virus died out....
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Location: Where I am happiest | NJJ - 2014-04-03 12:21 PM linds - 2014-04-03 12:04 PM Update today, I wish everyone in MN would take this seriously but unfortunately they are not...
EHV-1 UPDATE 4/3/14:. The only way to eliminate this virus is for everyone to keep their horses at home. Do not haul to and from trainers, lessons, shows, sales. Do not bring home new horses. Do not go to a horse event or barn without changing all your clothes, disinfecting your boots/hands etc.
Some are NOT understanding that they CAN spread the disease wihtout knowing that their horse is infected......When this happened a couple of years ago hitting the cutting/reining horses....MOST responsible producers cancelled or postponed their events and the virus died out....
Exactly!! It started at a cutting show in Ogden Utah. Then the horses showing no temp or symptoms went home from that show to many western states and they took it home with them infecting others in their barn.It ended up with not only cutters at that show, but also rope horses and barrel horses. It ballooned from that one show to 7 western states and many many horses died. |
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I am from the west, and will weigh in on this. Some of the barrel races and shows might have been canceled, but rodeo's (PRCA & ammie's) went on as scheduled. I did not hear of a single horse getting sick during that time period as a result of traveling to the rodeos. Not trying to downplay anything, but wanted to get the facts straight....there wasn't a whole west cost moratorium on travel or anything and everything came out ok. |
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Location: sunny california | Haulin@$$ - 2014-04-03 3:27 PM I am from the west, and will weigh in on this. Some of the barrel races and shows might have been canceled, but rodeo's (PRCA & ammie's ) went on as scheduled. I did not hear of a single horse getting sick during that time period as a result of traveling to the rodeos. Not trying to downplay anything, but wanted to get the facts straight....there wasn't a whole west cost moratorium on travel or anything and everything came out ok.
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| linds - 2014-04-03 12:04 PM
Update today, I wish everyone in MN would take this seriously but unfortunately they are not... EHV-1 UPDATE 4/3/14:
A horse in Wright County developed neurologic signs on 3/29 and was tested. A positive diagnosis was received this morning. All horses on this farm were tested to screen them for EHV-1. Of those tested additional horses came back positive for shedding the virus but they are not showing neurologic signs at this time. Those horses that are screened but not showing neurologic signs will be retested again in 3 weeks to determine shedding status.
This facility is taking this very seriously; they are in tight lock-down and are dressing in and dressing out when entering the barn etc. They have a very good quarantine protocol in place. To help with the understanding of “shedding” and what that means: EHV-1 non-neurologic form transfers via the respiratory system/breathing basically via air in closer proximity and on humans meaning on boots, barn equipment, clothing, etc. Of the horses that are positive shedders 25% will be neurologic and 75% will not, they will just shed. If one of those horses sheds to a new horse the same thing holds…25% of the new horses will be neurologic and 75% will not. We start the 2 week no travel again today, which is April 3rd. Meaning if there are NO more positive cases we are looking at April 17th. The only way to eliminate this virus is for everyone to keep their horses at home. Do not haul to and from trainers, lessons, shows, sales. Do not bring home new horses. Do not go to a horse event or barn without changing all your clothes, disinfecting your boots/hands etc. PLEASE NOTE: WE WOULD APPRECIATE ALL QUESTIONS BE DIRECTED TO JUSTINE@ANOKAEQUINE.COM. WE WOULD LIKE OUR PHONE LINES CLEAR FOR EMERGENCY CALLS AND NON-VIRUS ISSUES. WE INTEND FOR THIS TO BE INFORMATIONAL AND ASK THAT IT DOES NOT BECOME A DISCUSSION FORUM. THANKS SO MUCH.
I also wish people and producers would take this seriously. For the poster staying we're "bashing" ... We just have seen the effects it can have but if you're so confident in your decision, you wouldn't care what we think.
This is still very much active and is going to continue to infect others until we make the sacrifice and stop hauling. Let it run is course. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | kwanatha - 2014-04-03 6:31 PM Haulin@$$ - 2014-04-03 3:27 PM I am from the west, and will weigh in on this. Some of the barrel races and shows might have been canceled, but rodeo's (PRCA & ammie's ) went on as scheduled. I did not hear of a single horse getting sick during that time period as a result of traveling to the rodeos. Not trying to downplay anything, but wanted to get the facts straight....there wasn't a whole west cost moratorium on travel or anything and everything came out ok.
Most all barrel races were cancelled also, and there were some BIG ones scheduled that were cancelled. We went no where and even the trainer we had colts with didnt let any horses in or out for that month. We all battened down the hatches and got it nipped quicky after the initial blow-up. You may have rodeo'd as they are set up more for the spectator anyway but nobody was barrel racing, cutting, roping, or horse showing. They were all cancelled. |
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Location: stalking Gail... | Topline Equine Vetrinary Care just posted, as of today 4/4/2014:
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home. |
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I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing? |
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Location: WI | CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home.
no comment  IMO the producer could step up and offer refunds, I think that might help... I know the Expo going on in St Paul in a couple weeks is requiring health certs dated no more than 7 days out. I understand they can't reschedule, but there are some extra measures they could take. I'm sorry, but sanitize schmanitize. That stuff lives in the dirt, on people, will pass on dogs, in manure carts, at watering stations. |
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Location: Way up North | CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home.
I think it's less of a matter of "Minnesota Girls" and more of anyone that has had any possible contact with infected cases. I am not entered but my horses have not left the farm since October and I have not been in contact with any other horses or people that had potentially exposed horses; no one has come on to our farm either. I am also several hundred miles from the cases. Do you feel I should have to stay home if I was entered?
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | AllAroundRider - 2014-04-04 1:53 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home. I think it's less of a matter of "Minnesota Girls" and more of anyone that has had any possible contact with infected cases. I am not entered but my horses have not left the farm since October and I have not been in contact with any other horses or people that had potentially exposed horses; no one has come on to our farm either. I am also several hundred miles from the cases. Do you feel I should have to stay home if I was entered?
Everyone in any/all states that have confirmed cases of EHV or any other infectious disease being responsible.
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Location: ND | i'm more interested in whether or not the timing of these outbreaks will affect the season in which event producers choose to have their events.... |
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Location: ND | CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:55 PM AllAroundRider - 2014-04-04 1:53 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home. I think it's less of a matter of "Minnesota Girls" and more of anyone that has had any possible contact with infected cases. I am not entered but my horses have not left the farm since October and I have not been in contact with any other horses or people that had potentially exposed horses; no one has come on to our farm either. I am also several hundred miles from the cases. Do you feel I should have to stay home if I was entered?
Everyone in any/all states that have confirmed cases of EHV or any other infectious disease being responsible.
i'd have to ask them if they've left or not......the only one that i'm sure comes and goes at will is Spotsie, the pony..... |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | dhdqhllc - 2014-04-04 1:56 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:55 PM AllAroundRider - 2014-04-04 1:53 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home. I think it's less of a matter of "Minnesota Girls" and more of anyone that has had any possible contact with infected cases. I am not entered but my horses have not left the farm since October and I have not been in contact with any other horses or people that had potentially exposed horses; no one has come on to our farm either. I am also several hundred miles from the cases. Do you feel I should have to stay home if I was entered?
Everyone in any/all states that have confirmed cases of EHV or any other infectious disease being responsible.
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kwanatha - 2014-04-03 6:31 PM Haulin@$$ - 2014-04-03 3:27 PM I am from the west, and will weigh in on this. Some of the barrel races and shows might have been canceled, but rodeo's (PRCA & ammie's ) went on as scheduled. I did not hear of a single horse getting sick during that time period as a result of traveling to the rodeos. Not trying to downplay anything, but wanted to get the facts straight....there wasn't a whole west cost moratorium on travel or anything and everything came out ok.
Again, incorrect. I realize that there were quite a few events that were cancelled, but to say that "nobody was barrel racing, cutting, roping, or horse showing. They were all cancelled" is patently false. Quite a few went on during this time period. I know, as I went to several. I really don't have a dog in this fight (midwest), and hope that if people go they do take some precautions. Just stating the facts of what we experienced out west. Some events got cancelled, some went on, and no one got sick from any of the events that I went to. Do what you will with that info. |
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Location: Nebraska | linds - 2014-04-04 1:51 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home. no comment IMO the producer could step up and offer refunds, I think that might help... I know the Expo going on in St Paul in a couple weeks is requiring health certs dated no more than 7 days out. I understand they can't reschedule, but there are some extra measures they could take. I'm sorry, but sanitize schmanitize. That stuff lives in the dirt, on people, will pass on dogs, in manure carts, at watering stations.
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Location: WI | brlracerchick - 2014-04-04 2:36 PM linds - 2014-04-04 1:51 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home. no comment IMO the producer could step up and offer refunds, I think that might help... I know the Expo going on in St Paul in a couple weeks is requiring health certs dated no more than 7 days out. I understand they can't reschedule, but there are some extra measures they could take. I'm sorry, but sanitize schmanitize. That stuff lives in the dirt, on people, will pass on dogs, in manure carts, at watering stations.
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing?
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Location: WI | rockinas - 2014-04-04 3:08 PM Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing? Some horses are shedders for life.
They will be carriers for life - but they don't shed all the time. Like people who have cold sores (form of human herpes), they get 'breakouts' and during those breakouts they can spread, but they don't spread all the time. They can shed for periods of 7-10 days. |
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| linds - 2014-04-04 3:19 PM rockinas - 2014-04-04 3:08 PM Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing? Some horses are shedders for life.
And they have said that 99% of horses have already contracted EHV in their lifetimes. So almost all horses already are carriers, but most of the time, they don't shed or have a re-lapse.
Same as with people and Chicken Pox who get the Shingles virus. Same virus that lays latent in your body your entire life. Some have a re-lapse, some don't. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Nateracer - 2014-04-04 3:25 PM linds - 2014-04-04 3:19 PM rockinas - 2014-04-04 3:08 PM Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing? Some horses are shedders for life.
Same as with people and Chicken Pox who get the Shingles virus. Same virus that lays latent in your body your entire life. Some have a re-lapse, some don't.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 4:23 PM Nateracer - 2014-04-04 3:25 PM linds - 2014-04-04 3:19 PM rockinas - 2014-04-04 3:08 PM Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing? Some horses are shedders for life.
Same as with people and Chicken Pox who get the Shingles virus. Same virus that lays latent in your body your entire life. Some have a re-lapse, some don't.
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| CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 4:26 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 4:23 PM Nateracer - 2014-04-04 3:25 PM linds - 2014-04-04 3:19 PM rockinas - 2014-04-04 3:08 PM Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing? Some horses are shedders for life.
Same as with people and Chicken Pox who get the Shingles virus. Same virus that lays latent in your body your entire life. Some have a re-lapse, some don't.
I might have a fungus, my dog finds my toes appealing, but his tongue hasn't fallen off yet.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Nateracer - 2014-04-04 4:44 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 4:26 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 4:23 PM Nateracer - 2014-04-04 3:25 PM linds - 2014-04-04 3:19 PM rockinas - 2014-04-04 3:08 PM Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing? Some horses are shedders for life.
Same as with people and Chicken Pox who get the Shingles virus. Same virus that lays latent in your body your entire life. Some have a re-lapse, some don't.
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ThreeCorners - 2014-04-04 8:57 AM
kwanatha - 2014-04-03 6:31 PM Haulin@$$ - 2014-04-03 3:27 PM I am from the west, and will weigh in on this. Some of the barrel races and shows might have been canceled, but rodeo's (PRCA & ammie's ) went on as scheduled. I did not hear of a single horse getting sick during that time period as a result of traveling to the rodeos. Not trying to downplay anything, but wanted to get the facts straight....there wasn't a whole west cost moratorium on travel or anything and everything came out ok.
Again, incorrect. I realize that there were quite a few events that were cancelled, but to say that "nobody was barrel racing, cutting, roping, or horse showing. They were all cancelled" is patently false. Quite a few went on during this time period. I know, as I went to several. I really don't have a dog in this fight (midwest ), and hope that if people go they do take some precautions. Just stating the facts of what we experienced out west. Some events got cancelled, some went on, and no one got sick from any of the events that I went to. Do what you will with that info.
There were LOTS of races/shows cancelled - from events like the BRN4D Finals which is one of the biggest events in the NW to little local shows. MANY events were cancelled and rescheduled. Our local gymkhana association rescheduled three shows, I know that BRN4D rescheduled finals for that August, and Strobels' cancelled a race or two also.
ETA: I went to the PGW that year, but my horse was on LOCKDOWN when we got home and everything at the TRAC near his stall got sanitized before I even got him out of the trailer. No horses got sick, including mine. I just wanted to have the info out there that yes indeed, BIG races have been cancelled in the past due to outbreaks - BRN4D finals was supposed to have been 3 weeks (I think I'm counting right) before the PGW
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Location: mn | linds - 2014-04-04 1:51 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home. no comment IMO the producer could step up and offer refunds, I think that might help... I know the Expo going on in St Paul in a couple weeks is requiring health certs dated no more than 7 days out. I understand they can't reschedule, but there are some extra measures they could take. I'm sorry, but sanitize schmanitize. That stuff lives in the dirt, on people, will pass on dogs, in manure carts, at watering stations.
I agree. I know I'll get a few black eyes for saying this, but I wish the producer would refund the fees to anyone traveling from the 'hotzone' and keep them from coming. I'm not entered and haven't been anywhere since fall either. So even though I feel mine haven't been exposed, that doesn't mean others up here haven't been hauling where they could have been exposed to it. Yeah I'd be disappointed to not go, but it would be for the greater good and I'd suck it up. I think it's a shame that the hundreds of people entered from other states that are not at all effected by this should have to worry. Our vets in MN are advising us not to travel. There's no reason people can't prevent this from crossing into other states.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | northerngirl - 2014-04-04 5:02 PM linds - 2014-04-04 1:51 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM Will be interesting if the Minnesota girls will stay home. no comment IMO the producer could step up and offer refunds, I think that might help... I know the Expo going on in St Paul in a couple weeks is requiring health certs dated no more than 7 days out. I understand they can't reschedule, but there are some extra measures they could take. I'm sorry, but sanitize schmanitize. That stuff lives in the dirt, on people, will pass on dogs, in manure carts, at watering stations.
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Location: You never know where I will show up...... | linds - 2014-04-04 3:19 PM rockinas - 2014-04-04 3:08 PM Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing? Some horses are shedders for life.
It is a huge problem when there is an outbreak in a certain area. But the fact is-- some horses are affected for life and any time you purchase a new horse or you go somewhere you run the risk of bringing something home even if nothing was visibly sick.
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Location: ND | rockinas - 2014-04-04 9:21 PM linds - 2014-04-04 3:19 PM rockinas - 2014-04-04 3:08 PM Thecowgirlinme - 2014-04-04 1:05 PM How long can a horse shed the virus, without symptoms? I'm concerned for those coming back, and their horses contracted it at Lincoln, without them knowing? Some horses are shedders for life.
It is a huge problem when there is an outbreak in a certain area. But the fact is-- some horses are affected for life and any time you purchase a new horse or you go somewhere you run the risk of bringing something home even if nothing was visibly sick.
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| First I am not entered.... but I am from MN, and 4 hours from where the outbreak is going on..... I have not traveled anywhere since Feb, and am awaiting this whole thing to settle down before I start attending races.
To the girl who was looking up where people in and where they are in the draw... sorry but it is a waste of time. Because if I WAS in your draw, you wouldnt be at anymore risk than the person from Texas or Nebraska,.. just saying....
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| Rockin&Rollin - 2014-04-05 11:34 AM First I am not entered.... but I am from MN, and 4 hours from where the outbreak is going on..... I have not traveled anywhere since Feb, and am awaiting this whole thing to settle down before I start attending races. To the girl who was looking up where people in and where they are in the draw... sorry but it is a waste of time. Because if I WAS in your draw, you wouldnt be at anymore risk than the person from Texas or Nebraska,.. just saying.... BUT please dont judge everyone from MN as being exposed.....
I didn't judge everyone from MN. What I did was looked up where they were in relation to the outbreak. I know most people and their horses in MN don't have "cooties." I also know out of the millions of horses in the US, based on vet reports, there are 10-20 cases nationwide.
I really, really feel that after speaking with my vet and several others, social media is the reason we even know about this. Yes, it sucks, but it had happened for years according several vets. It's just now people are hearing about it and flying off the handle.
Doing my research is for my piece of mind, not to place blame or point fingers. Each individual needs to do their research (however they want) and make their own decisions. |
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Location: never in the right place | so you can EHV1 anywhere, example My horse has been at the vet clinic for 8 days he has severe Lymes Disease (**** ticks) and because he has a temp he is in the quarantine barn even though he is negative for all contagious diseases. I was supposed to pick him up today but get a call from the vet They had an emergency colic yesterday and somehow the horse had a temp so the put him in the quarantine barn with my horse, come to find out that horse tested positive for EHV1 and now my horse can't come home for 2 weeks. I have another horse here and have no where to put him so I don't want to make him suseptical (sp) to it. Besides I figure they will be able to chk on him more often than I can because of work and know the symptoms much better than I do, so he is better off there. I am just hoping he doesn't get it because his immnune system is already compromised with the Lyme- it is in his blood and spinal fluid. |
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| ctdrumrunr - 2014-04-05 1:06 PM so you can EHV1 anywhere, example My horse has been at the vet clinic for 8 days he has severe Lymes Disease (**** ticks) and because he has a temp he is in the quarantine barn even though he is negative for all contagious diseases. I was supposed to pick him up today but get a call from the vet They had an emergency colic yesterday and somehow the horse had a temp so the put him in the quarantine barn with my horse, come to find out that horse tested positive for EHV1 and now my horse can't come home for 2 weeks. I have another horse here and have no where to put him so I don't want to make him suseptical (sp) to it. Besides I figure they will be able to chk on him more often than I can because of work and know the symptoms much better than I do, so he is better off there. I am just hoping he doesn't get it because his immnune system is already compromised with the Lyme- it is in his blood and spinal fluid.
That stinks. Prayers for your horse. Lymes is nothing to mess with and to be exposed to more stuff is unfortunate. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Nateracer - 2014-04-05 12:40 PM Rockin&Rollin - 2014-04-05 11:34 AM First I am not entered.... but I am from MN, and 4 hours from where the outbreak is going on..... I have not traveled anywhere since Feb, and am awaiting this whole thing to settle down before I start attending races. To the girl who was looking up where people in and where they are in the draw... sorry but it is a waste of time. Because if I WAS in your draw, you wouldnt be at anymore risk than the person from Texas or Nebraska,.. just saying.... BUT please dont judge everyone from MN as being exposed..... I didn't judge everyone from MN. What I did was looked up where they were in relation to the outbreak. I know most people and their horses in MN don't have "cooties." I also know out of the millions of horses in the US, based on vet reports, there are 10-20 cases nationwide.
I really, really feel that after speaking with my vet and several others, social media is the reason we even know about this. Yes, it sucks, but it had happened for years according several vets. It's just now people are hearing about it and flying off the handle.
Doing my research is for my piece of mind, not to place blame or point fingers. Each individual needs to do their research (however they want ) and make their own decisions.
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Location: Central Iowa, surrounded by corn! | It has just been announced from Stillwater Vet that a horse from WI that was at the BRF contracted EHV-1 and was put down!  |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | Chasinmydream - 2014-04-26 4:52 PM
It has just been announced from Stillwater Vet that a horse from WI that was at the BRF contracted EHV-1 and was put down!
Unfortunately this is true. She belonged to us. We are heartbroken but willing to share any info we can in hope that it will save another. Our horses haven't been off the property since their return Monday the 14th from Lincoln. |
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Chasinmydream - 2014-04-26 4:52 PM
It has just been announced from Stillwater Vet that a horse from WI that was at the BRF contracted EHV-1 and was put down!
Unfortunately this is true. She belonged to us. We are heartbroken but willing to share any info we can in hope that it will save another. Our horses haven't been off the property since their return Monday the 14th from Lincoln.
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Location: Nebraska | So sorry for your loss! I can't even imagine. Where were you stalled and when did you run?
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Location: South Dakota | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-26 8:12 PM
Chasinmydream - 2014-04-26 4:52 PM
It has just been announced from Stillwater Vet that a horse from WI that was at the BRF contracted EHV-1 and was put down!
Unfortunately this is true. She belonged to us. We are heartbroken but willing to share any info we can in hope that it will save another. Our horses haven't been off the property since their return Monday the 14th from Lincoln.
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | brlracerchick - 2014-04-26 10:00 PM
So sorry for your loss! I can't even imagine. Where were you stalled and when did you run?
Barn 2. Row T. We had 2 stalls. 350 and 351
I will get the book and check what draws she was.
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Location: Here | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-26 10:30 PM brlracerchick - 2014-04-26 10:00 PM So sorry for your loss! I can't even imagine. Where were you stalled and when did you run?
Barn 2. Row T. We had 2 stalls. 350 and 351 I will get the book and check what draws she was.
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Location: Kansas | kscanchsnglaziergal - 2014-04-27 9:02 AM Did anyone save the stall assignments and draws?
I have the draws but not stall assignments. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-26 10:30 PM brlracerchick - 2014-04-26 10:00 PM So sorry for your loss! I can't even imagine. Where were you stalled and when did you run?
Barn 2. Row T. We had 2 stalls. 350 and 351 I will get the book and check what draws she was.
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | CYA Ranch - 2014-04-27 9:26 PM
Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-26 10:30 PM brlracerchick - 2014-04-26 10:00 PM So sorry for your loss! I can't even imagine. Where were you stalled and when did you run?
Barn 2. Row T. We had 2 stalls. 350 and 351 I will get the book and check what draws she was.
We went to one very small jackpot March 29th. Maybe 25 horses. Prior to that, we haven't been to any shows since fall of 2013. Our horses all got the winter off. We haven't hauled or had any contact with any other horses since our return from the BRF |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-27 9:33 PM
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Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-26 10:30 PM brlracerchick - 2014-04-26 10:00 PM So sorry for your loss! I can't even imagine. Where were you stalled and when did you run?
Barn 2. Row T. We had 2 stalls. 350 and 351 I will get the book and check what draws she was.
We went to one very small jackpot March 29th. Maybe 25 horses. Prior to that, we haven't been to any shows since fall of 2013. Our horses all got the winter off. We haven't hauled or had any contact with any other horses since our return from the BRF
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| I am so sorry for your loss .... words cannot express.
Also - straight from Heartland Equine Hospital - Tonganoxie, KS - Facebook page this morning ...
We would like to notify clients and area horse owners that there has been a new confirmed case of Neurologic Herpes (EHV-1 Myeloencephalopathy). The confirmed case was a horse from Wisconsin that attended the Bonus Race Finals in Lincoln, NE April 10-13. The horse began showing neurologic signs this past week, was euthanized, and testing confirmed EHV-1 this weekend (see post below). In addition, a horse from Northeast Kansas that also attended the Bonus Race Finals was euthanized this week after showing rapidly progressive neurologic signs. Testing is pending for this horse, so it is NOT a confirmed case of neurologic herpes. If you attended the Bonus Race Finals you may visit the Bonus Race Finals facebook page for information about where the confirmed case was stalled. Regardless of stall location, if you attended the Bonus Race Finals or have had any contact with a horse that attended the event, you should carefully monitor your horses for signs of fever (temp > 101.5F), cough, nasal discharge, weakness or incoordination of the hind limbs, or difficulty urinating or defecating. Please contact your veterinarian if you see any of these signs. We are recommending that all horses have temperatures checked twice per day. In addition, we suggest that owners/horses stay home to minimize risk of exposure until we learn more information about potential cases. EHV-1 is spread via nose-to-nose contact, aerosol of respiratory secretions, and respiratory secretions on hands/clothes, tack, buckets, etc. There is no prevention (vaccine, etc) for neurologic herpes, so breaking the cycle of transmission is important to halt the spread of this devastating disease.
4-26-2014 EHV-1 update
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-27 10:33 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-27 9:26 PM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-26 10:30 PM brlracerchick - 2014-04-26 10:00 PM So sorry for your loss! I can't even imagine. Where were you stalled and when did you run?
Barn 2. Row T. We had 2 stalls. 350 and 351 I will get the book and check what draws she was. We went to one very small jackpot March 29th. Maybe 25 horses. Prior to that, we haven't been to any shows since fall of 2013. Our horses all got the winter off. We haven't hauled or had any contact with any other horses since our return from the BRF
I have not been keeping up with this thread or with the EHV outbreak. I was in for surgery for myself in March so I opted out of any major barrel races for a while, including the BRF and the BBR finals. So I've been just hanging out at home not paying attention. But I wanted to reach out to you and give you guys a cyber hug. I am so very saddened to hear of anyone losing a horse. And sometimes diseases like this seem to strike so random. Just please don't blame yourselves or let anyone else blame you because you chose to go to a race. Hundreds of ppl went to that race. It could have happened to any one of them. Again, sorry for your loss. |
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Location: Kansas | missroselee - 2014-04-28 9:09 AM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-27 10:33 PM CYA Ranch - 2014-04-27 9:26 PM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-26 10:30 PM brlracerchick - 2014-04-26 10:00 PM So sorry for your loss! I can't even imagine. Where were you stalled and when did you run?
Barn 2. Row T. We had 2 stalls. 350 and 351 I will get the book and check what draws she was. We went to one very small jackpot March 29th. Maybe 25 horses. Prior to that, we haven't been to any shows since fall of 2013. Our horses all got the winter off. We haven't hauled or had any contact with any other horses since our return from the BRF
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| lindseylou2290 - 2014-04-28 9:04 AM
I am so sorry for your loss .... words cannot express.
Also - straight from Heartland Equine Hospital - Tonganoxie, KS - Facebook page this morning ...
We would like to notify clients and area horse owners that there has been a new confirmed case of Neurologic Herpes (EHV-1 Myeloencephalopathy ). The confirmed case was a horse from Wisconsin that attended the Bonus Race Finals in Lincoln, NE April 10-13. The horse began showing neurologic signs this past week, was euthanized, and testing confirmed EHV-1 this weekend (see post below ). In addition, a horse from Northeast Kansas that also attended the Bonus Race Finals was euthanized this week after showing rapidly progressive neurologic signs. Testing is pending for this horse, so it is NOT a confirmed case of neurologic herpes. If you attended the Bonus Race Finals you may visit the Bonus Race Finals facebook page for information about where the confirmed case was stalled. Regardless of stall location, if you attended the Bonus Race Finals or have had any contact with a horse that attended the event, you should carefully monitor your horses for signs of fever (temp > 101.5F ), cough, nasal discharge, weakness or incoordination of the hind limbs, or difficulty urinating or defecating. Please contact your veterinarian if you see any of these signs. We are recommending that all horses have temperatures checked twice per day. In addition, we suggest that owners/horses stay home to minimize risk of exposure until we learn more information about potential cases. EHV-1 is spread via nose-to-nose contact, aerosol of respiratory secretions, and respiratory secretions on hands/clothes, tack, buckets, etc. There is no prevention (vaccine, etc ) for neurologic herpes, so breaking the cycle of transmission is important to halt the spread of this devastating disease.
4-26-2014 EHV-1 update
I'm not a vet nor have I ever played one on the big scree , but my understanding is that this is not correct information.
This outbreak is presenting with neurological symptoms but the tests are coming back negative for ehv-1 myeloencephalopaty or ehm... At least that is what I've continually heard |
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| OhMax - 2014-04-28 9:29 AM
lindseylou2290 - 2014-04-28 9:04 AM
I am so sorry for your loss .... words cannot express.
Also - straight from Heartland Equine Hospital - Tonganoxie, KS - Facebook page this morning ...
We would like to notify clients and area horse owners that there has been a new confirmed case of Neurologic Herpes (EHV-1 Myeloencephalopathy ). The confirmed case was a horse from Wisconsin that attended the Bonus Race Finals in Lincoln, NE April 10-13. The horse began showing neurologic signs this past week, was euthanized, and testing confirmed EHV-1 this weekend (see post below ). In addition, a horse from Northeast Kansas that also attended the Bonus Race Finals was euthanized this week after showing rapidly progressive neurologic signs. Testing is pending for this horse, so it is NOT a confirmed case of neurologic herpes. If you attended the Bonus Race Finals you may visit the Bonus Race Finals facebook page for information about where the confirmed case was stalled. Regardless of stall location, if you attended the Bonus Race Finals or have had any contact with a horse that attended the event, you should carefully monitor your horses for signs of fever (temp > 101.5F ), cough, nasal discharge, weakness or incoordination of the hind limbs, or difficulty urinating or defecating. Please contact your veterinarian if you see any of these signs. We are recommending that all horses have temperatures checked twice per day. In addition, we suggest that owners/horses stay home to minimize risk of exposure until we learn more information about potential cases. EHV-1 is spread via nose-to-nose contact, aerosol of respiratory secretions, and respiratory secretions on hands/clothes, tack, buckets, etc. There is no prevention (vaccine, etc ) for neurologic herpes, so breaking the cycle of transmission is important to halt the spread of this devastating disease.
4-26-2014 EHV-1 update
I'm not a vet nor have I ever played one on the big scree , but my understanding is that this is not correct information.
This outbreak is presenting with neurological symptoms but the tests are coming back negative for ehv-1 myeloencephalopaty or ehm... At least that is what I've continually heard
I am not a vet either. However, the Heartland Equine Hospital people are ... sooo I take their word that the information is correct and reliable. JMO - not trying to wage a war. |
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Location: north dakota | Stillwater vet clinic was the first to publish the info about the EHV case in Wisconsin. They said the horse tested positive for EHV non neurotrophic strain but did have neuro symptoms |
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| ndcowgirl - 2014-04-28 10:35 AM
Stillwater vet clinic was the first to publish the info about the EHV case in Wisconsin. They said the horse tested positive for EHV non neurotrophic strain but did have neuro symptoms
Ditto...
Just saying, it's been a source of huge confusion for exactly what this outbreak is. I'm going to trust the Stillwater vets as they have been much closer to the action. |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | OhMax - 2014-04-28 10:41 AM
ndcowgirl - 2014-04-28 10:35 AM
Stillwater vet clinic was the first to publish the info about the EHV case in Wisconsin. They said the horse tested positive for EHV non neurotrophic strain but did have neuro symptoms
Ditto...
Just saying, it's been a source of huge confusion for exactly what this outbreak is. I'm going to trust the Stillwater vets as they have been much closer to the action.
Our mare did have neurological symptoms. She had lost hind end control and she was unable to urinate. She also had nasal discharge Thursday the 24th, the day she was euthanized. Her tests are positive for EHV-1 NON NEUROTROPHIC strain.
We are extremely grateful for Stillwater vets. The have been in constant contact with us. Sending over more info and helping us monitor the rest of our herd. They have went above and beyond. Our local vets have been zero help. I had to call Kentucky to see if the tests were in. They of course couldn't release the info. Then had to badger the local vet to get the results. They didn't seem too concerned. You think they would have been a little more professional throughout this whole ordeal.
I would like to thanks everybody for the kindess. We are holding the blame on ourselves. We knew the risks. We thought we took all the necessary precautions for safe travel. In the end it wasn't enough. We have come forward in hope that information will save just one horse.
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Location: South Dakota | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-28 11:04 AM OhMax - 2014-04-28 10:41 AM ndcowgirl - 2014-04-28 10:35 AM Stillwater vet clinic was the first to publish the info about the EHV case in Wisconsin. They said the horse tested positive for EHV non neurotrophic strain but did have neuro symptoms Ditto... Just saying, it's been a source of huge confusion for exactly what this outbreak is. I'm going to trust the Stillwater vets as they have been much closer to the action. Our mare did have neurological symptoms. She had lost hind end control and she was unable to urinate. She also had nasal discharge Thursday the 24th, the day she was euthanized. Her tests are positive for EHV-1 NON NEUROTROPHIC strain. We are extremely grateful for Stillwater vets. The have been in constant contact with us. Sending over more info and helping us monitor the rest of our herd. They have went above and beyond. Our local vets have been zero help. I had to call Kentucky to see if the tests were in. They of course couldn't release the info. Then had to badger the local vet to get the results. They didn't seem too concerned. You think they would have been a little more professional throughout this whole ordeal. I would like to thanks everybody for the kindess. We are holding the blame on ourselves. We knew the risks. We thought we took all the necessary precautions for safe travel. In the end it wasn't enough. We have come forward in hope that information will save just one horse.
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | powerstroke power - 2014-04-28 12:43 PM
Did you haul with anyone to BRF? If so, have they hauled elsewhere since? How are their horses?
We hauled 2 mares. Both belonged to us. The other mare is fine. We are monitoring temps 3 times a day on every horse we own. Horse have been home since the BFR. We haven't been anywhere. |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | Timber Creek - 2014-04-28 12:55 PM
Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-28 11:04 AM OhMax - 2014-04-28 10:41 AM ndcowgirl - 2014-04-28 10:35 AM Stillwater vet clinic was the first to publish the info about the EHV case in Wisconsin. They said the horse tested positive for EHV non neurotrophic strain but did have neuro symptoms Ditto... Just saying, it's been a source of huge confusion for exactly what this outbreak is. I'm going to trust the Stillwater vets as they have been much closer to the action. Our mare did have neurological symptoms. She had lost hind end control and she was unable to urinate. She also had nasal discharge Thursday the 24th, the day she was euthanized. Her tests are positive for EHV-1 NON NEUROTROPHIC strain. We are extremely grateful for Stillwater vets. The have been in constant contact with us. Sending over more info and helping us monitor the rest of our herd. They have went above and beyond. Our local vets have been zero help. I had to call Kentucky to see if the tests were in. They of course couldn't release the info. Then had to badger the local vet to get the results. They didn't seem too concerned. You think they would have been a little more professional throughout this whole ordeal. I would like to thanks everybody for the kindess. We are holding the blame on ourselves. We knew the risks. We thought we took all the necessary precautions for safe travel. In the end it wasn't enough. We have come forward in hope that information will save just one horse.
Taking temps for another 2 weeks. No horses in or out for 30 days. Also we aren't allowing any horse owners on the property and we aren't going to any property that has horses or to any horse related events. Under lock down. State inspector may come out to do walk through. |
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Location: never in the right place | my horse and the horse that gave him EHV1 at the vets, are still there. Mine tested positive on April 11, the other horse was positive on April 5. they are both still shedding the virus. I was told it could take up to 28 days, they are in the quarantine barn and all personnal have to wear gowns, gloves, foot bath when coming out of stall and have to wear separate stuff for each horse. This is in Ct. |
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| I wonder how many horses went to bbr that where in contact with these horses or that went to bonus race ? This is so crazy , we are so worried ! I also wonder if these horses where vaccinated for rhino ( yes I do know it is not for ehv1 ) ? We wonder it vaccine may help in any way or ???? Fort smith is just around the corner , just hope NO horses that attended bbr come down with this . So sorry for all involve can't believe this terrialbe stuff is back . |
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| Alittlelost - 2014-04-28 2:05 PM I wonder how many horses went to bbr that where in contact with these horses or that went to bonus race ? This is so crazy , we are so worried ! I also wonder if these horses where vaccinated for rhino ( yes I do know it is not for ehv1 ) ? We wonder it vaccine may help in any way or ???? Fort smith is just around the corner , just hope NO horses that attended bbr come down with this . So sorry for all involve can't believe this terrialbe stuff is back .
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Location: Kansas | Nateracer - 2014-04-28 2:08 PM Alittlelost - 2014-04-28 2:05 PM I wonder how many horses went to bbr that where in contact with these horses or that went to bonus race ? This is so crazy , we are so worried ! I also wonder if these horses where vaccinated for rhino ( yes I do know it is not for ehv1 ) ? We wonder it vaccine may help in any way or ???? Fort smith is just around the corner , just hope NO horses that attended bbr come down with this . So sorry for all involve can't believe this terrialbe stuff is back . Quite a few horses that went to Lincoln went to BBR. I can think of a handful right off the top of my head, without looking.
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| NOT what we wanted to here ! Thank goodness we did not go . Seems there are lots of people not taking this serious , guess they have never had to pay a BIG vet bill or lost a great horse ! It is so hard to watch this go around and know people are thinking it won't happen to them and they are right it iseems to only happen to those that care so deeply for there horses ! We are staying home tell we know it is safe , we love are horses too much to put them in danger !!!! |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | Alittlelost - 2014-04-28 2:29 PM
NOT what we wanted to here ! Thank goodness we did not go . Seems there are lots of people not taking this serious , guess they have never had to pay a BIG vet bill or lost a great horse ! It is so hard to watch this go around and know people are thinking it won't happen to them and they are right it iseems to only happen to those that care so deeply for there horses ! We are staying home tell we know it is safe , we love are horses too much to put them in danger !!!!
I sure hope you are not implying that we don't love our horse. She is the mare I bought when I was 21 to get back into barrel racing. We travel 20 hours to FL to get her. She was the one we wanted that badly. A few years ago we faced a huge decision with this mare. Tie back surgery or euthanized. We opted for surgery we spent thousands saving this mare. It didn't matter that she was a 4/5D horse and the surgery cost more than the mare. She was the mare I planned on my daughter moving up too. We are dealing with enough guilt within our family. People aren't stepping up because of the negative back lash. We are trying to help in any way we can so we can prevent another death. I was prepared for the negative and I'm really trying to let it not bother me but it is hard. |
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| NO I WOULD NEVER THINK THAT ! We all love are horses ! After knowing this is out there I would just have a hard time going to a place and have to stall my horses In a closed in barn With horses that have been exposed to this horrable stufff ! Some people have never had anything bad happen to there horses and we have , so we know it could be one of our horses !we are sorry for your for your family ! And hope NO other horses get this terrible stuff ! |
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Location: Kansas | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-28 2:40 PM Alittlelost - 2014-04-28 2:29 PM NOT what we wanted to here ! Thank goodness we did not go . Seems there are lots of people not taking this serious , guess they have never had to pay a BIG vet bill or lost a great horse ! It is so hard to watch this go around and know people are thinking it won't happen to them and they are right it iseems to only happen to those that care so deeply for there horses ! We are staying home tell we know it is safe , we love are horses too much to put them in danger !!!! I sure hope you are not implying that we don't love our horse. She is the mare I bought when I was 21 to get back into barrel racing. We travel 20 hours to FL to get her. She was the one we wanted that badly. A few years ago we faced a huge decision with this mare. Tie back surgery or euthanized. We opted for surgery we spent thousands saving this mare. It didn't matter that she was a 4/5D horse and the surgery cost more than the mare. She was the mare I planned on my daughter moving up too. We are dealing with enough guilt within our family. People aren't stepping up because of the negative back lash. We are trying to help in any way we can so we can prevent another death. I was prepared for the negative and I'm really trying to let it not bother me but it is hard.
Keep your chin up and don't blame yourself. So many vets from all over the country told clients it was safe to go that I don't see how anyone could be at fault. From the research I did, this virus has been around for years and will be around well into the future, so contracting it is a risk we take by transporting our horses to any show, the vet clinic, or an arena where anyone else can take their horse, or heck even by buying a new horse and bringing it home! Everyone knows running barrels is risky - we could die, our horse could fall and break its neck, there are just so many freak things that can happen, but its like that with anything, even just driving to work.
My heart aches for you & your daughter. I don't have a kid to pass a horse down to, but I know I'd be completely devastated if I lost any one of my horses, even the old gelding who has slowed down a lot this year. I also know how you feel about spending more than the horse is worth in vet bills.....been there, done that, got the t-shirt. (maybe we really should make t-shirts and sell them as an entry fee/vet bill fundraiser on here LOL) |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | Alittlelost - 2014-04-28 2:51 PM
NO I WOULD NEVER THINK THAT ! We all love are horses ! After knowing this is out there I would just have a hard time going to a place and have to stall my horses In a closed in barn With horses that have been exposed to this horrable stufff ! Some people have never had anything bad happen to there horses and we have , so we know it could be one of our horses !we are sorry for your for your family ! And hope NO other horses get this terrible stuff !
Thanks for clarifying. I took your post a a whole different way. Maybe u am being a little over sensitive. As a whole, the horse community has been extremely supportive. I am getting tons of PMs from FB and some on here. |
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| I do know there is NO vaccine for this form of rhino , but just wondering if the horses that got ehv1 ( or what ever this maybe ) had a recent rhino buster shot or not , to see if maybe that would help prevent or not ? |
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| Alittlelost - 2014-04-28 2:59 PM I do know there is NO vaccine for this form of rhino , but just wondering if the horses that got ehv1 ( or what ever this maybe ) had a recent rhino buster shot or not , to see if maybe that would help prevent or not ?
Since you only have 18 posts, I'll try to be nice. This issue has been going on on this board since the Outbreak started in March. You need to go back and search and read the threads that have been posted and the questions that have been answered in this post, including this one. Also, look up Stillwater Vet Clinic on Facebook. There are HUGE posts on that page about this, including more answered questions.
Horse was vaccinated previously. Precautions were taken, by most everyone, producers, event facilities, people in general, but it wasn't stopped. Vets recommeded that with precautions, people could travel. There is NO vaccine for EHV-1 that has been going around. |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | Alittlelost - 2014-04-28 2:59 PM
I do know there is NO vaccine for this form of rhino , but just wondering if the horses that got ehv1 ( or what ever this maybe ) had a recent rhino buster shot or not , to see if maybe that would help prevent or not ?
Our horses did get the rhino with their spring vaccines. Can't speak for any of the other positive cases. |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | My daughter is only 3. My mom explained that Mama went to live in heaven. And her first thoughts are the passing of my grandparents. She wants to know if grandpa is going to ride her? Is he going to feed her? Grandpa better tie her up! She then proceeds to tell us that the vet took her in the horse bus (trailer) and he will bring her back when she's better.... Ahhhh the innocence of a child's mind.
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | rodeowithjoker - 2014-04-28 2:56 PM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-28 2:40 PM Alittlelost - 2014-04-28 2:29 PM NOT what we wanted to here ! Thank goodness we did not go . Seems there are lots of people not taking this serious , guess they have never had to pay a BIG vet bill or lost a great horse ! It is so hard to watch this go around and know people are thinking it won't happen to them and they are right it iseems to only happen to those that care so deeply for there horses ! We are staying home tell we know it is safe , we love are horses too much to put them in danger !!!! I sure hope you are not implying that we don't love our horse. She is the mare I bought when I was 21 to get back into barrel racing. We travel 20 hours to FL to get her. She was the one we wanted that badly. A few years ago we faced a huge decision with this mare. Tie back surgery or euthanized. We opted for surgery we spent thousands saving this mare. It didn't matter that she was a 4/5D horse and the surgery cost more than the mare. She was the mare I planned on my daughter moving up too. We are dealing with enough guilt within our family. People aren't stepping up because of the negative back lash. We are trying to help in any way we can so we can prevent another death. I was prepared for the negative and I'm really trying to let it not bother me but it is hard.
My heart aches for you & your daughter. I don't have a kid to pass a horse down to, but I know I'd be completely devastated if I lost any one of my horses, even the old gelding who has slowed down a lot this year. I also know how you feel about spending more than the horse is worth in vet bills.....been there, done that, got the t-shirt. (maybe we really should make t-shirts and sell them as an entry fee/vet bill fundraiser on here LOL)
The highlighted is so true. I had 2 vets inform me that the only way I could keep my horses safe was keep them home forever and hang up my barrel racing. I'll choose the fact that my horses and I love running barrels, I vaccinate and keep them healthy, and I'll continue to run. I was very close to Barrels&Babies horses, so close that I did receive an email from Renea. I have been temping and monitoring them but they all are bright eyed and bushy tailed playing in the rain. I pray to God they are all ok and I also pray for B&B that her and her family get through this horrible time with no further losses. |
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Location: Iowa | First of all I have to say I admire Barrels&Babies for coming forward and letting people know more about your experience. I think there are so many of us that have questions about this that just plain are not being answered.
Yes I believe that the vets are TRYING to do the best they can, but after reading your remarks about your local vet not doing much about it, it just makes me more concerned that this is being taken too lightly. At this point I really don't have a dog in this fight from the standpoint of I don't really have a horse to haul right now. But this has changed so many of our plans that it's really frustrating to think that this isn't getting resolved yet. My 11yr old daughter has been planning on doing more with barrels, poles, goats, and roping, and I have had to tell her to just sit tight to see how things blow over with this. It worked okay when the weather was cold and yucky, but now things are getting nice and we are still stuck at home, waiting to see how this all pans out. I had a lot hanging on what happened after the Bonus Race Finals. Honestly I have kinda felt stupid thinking I was blowing this out of proportion because nothing has come up with the ehv-1 since the BRF. Now that this has started up again, it makes me really wonder how good is the advice that we are getting? Also, how many horses have not been tested? I know this sounds bad and I really hate to think the worst, but I just feel like this strain is something that they haven't dealt with before, but some are treating it as though it's the same thing. Clearly IT IS NOT.
I don't think that anyone would've knowingly hauled to the BRF if they're horse showed any signs of distress or illness. But somehow the virus is still spreading.
I feel for those that have lost their horses to this. I have dealt with putting two of my beloved horses down in the coarse of the past year and a half. One was 11 and came down with a rare form of Leptosporosis which caused him to go blind in one eye and with a lot of money we saved partial sight in his other eye. All to lose him less than a year later because it was attacking his kidneys and causing him to go blind in his good eye. The other one was 26 and was suffering from Lymphoma. I understand completely what it is like to lose your beloved horses. In fact my heart still breaks over both my boys. I can't imagine my daughter or my two younger children who adore their horses, going through this.
The Iowa horse is very close to where I live. Right before this all started in MN we got my daughter a new horse right from the thick of this whole thing. Needless to say we were extremely nervous when this all came out. But it's turned out okay. Now I know of several people that live very close to where I do that went to the BRF and have traveled locally to some other things going on. Where does that leave us? STAYING HOME.....but it sure does stink. And trying to get my 11yr old daughter to understand that isn't the easiest thing in the world to do.
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| O we are SO SORRY for you and your daughter ! That just made me cry ! I don't even compete anymore I do this for my daughter ,so I do understand how hard it must be ! And thank you for letting us know about the rhino shot, I was NOT saying anything about anyone not taking precautions , we know lots of very respectable horsemen and woman that do not vaccinate there horses and have very good reasoning for not doing so . I am sorry to discuss a topic that has already been talked about , I just don't have the time to read every post , SORRY for upsetting anyone ! I do know rhino and ehv1 have been around for awhile we just try to keep up on what's new and prevent our horses for getting anythingng we can . Sorry if anyone has taken me wrong , never wanted a problem , it's all about trying to learn what we can about this horrible stuff ! |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | I was in contact with Stillwater almost immediately, before samples were even sent off. I knew the incompetence of our vets here. We travel almost 2 hours for anything lameness related. Our local vets only vaccinate and draws coggins. It was after hours when we noticed symptoms and feared she wouldn't make a trip. The local vet was our only option at the moment. They insisted that she had a slipped disk or head injury. |
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Location: Iowa | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-28 3:59 PM
I was in contact with Stillwater almost immediately, before samples were even sent off. I knew the incompetence of our vets here. We travel almost 2 hours for anything lameness related. Our local vets only vaccinate and draws coggins. It was after hours when we noticed symptoms and feared she wouldn't make a trip. The local vet was our only option at the moment. They insisted that she had a slipped disk or head injury.
We have been in these same shoes when it came to our cows. It literally took pulling teeth to get our vet to talk to us. But they didn't say much at all about it. We had to take a copy of the report to someone else to have them break it down for us and discuss our options because it just wasn't a big deal to our vet. Makes me sick that you had to go through all this. SO SORRY!! |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | Alittlelost - 2014-04-28 3:48 PM
O we are SO SORRY for you and your daughter ! That just made me cry ! I don't even compete anymore I do this for my daughter ,so I do understand how hard it must be ! And thank you for letting us know about the rhino shot, I was NOT saying anything about anyone not taking precautions , we know lots of very respectable horsemen and woman that do not vaccinate there horses and have very good reasoning for not doing so . I am sorry to discuss a topic that has already been talked about , I just don't have the time to read every post , SORRY for upsetting anyone ! I do know rhino and ehv1 have been around for awhile we just try to keep up on what's new and prevent our horses for getting anythingng we can . Sorry if anyone has taken me wrong , never wanted a problem , it's all about trying to learn what we can about this horrible stuff !
I bought her 5 years ago. My mom then took her over after her tie back surgery. Even tho it was tough for me, my mom had a much harder time. My sister had qualified for BRF and so did her BF. The BF didn't have a horse to run so my mom loaned her out since we were going anyways.
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| Sounds like you are very good people and where dealt this horrible sickness while only helping a friend out , SO SORRY ! I just hope there are no other cases of this stuff ( stuff as we really sounds like we don't know what it is , ehv1 or another form of rhino ? ) good luck to you and thank you for letting us know what All went on so everyone knows what to look for . Thanks again ! |
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Location: Nebraska | The LEC just cancelled all horse events for the week so they can go in and disinfect everything. |
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Location: Iowa | Does anyone know how a person would be able to get more info on this stuff if they didn't do FB? Is there any other place to get more info? Thanks in advance!! |
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Location: Here | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-28 3:13 PM My daughter is only 3. My mom explained that Mama went to live in heaven. And her first thoughts are the passing of my grandparents. She wants to know if grandpa is going to ride her? Is he going to feed her? Grandpa better tie her up! She then proceeds to tell us that the vet took her in the horse bus (trailer) and he will bring her back when she's better.... Ahhhh the innocence of a child's mind.
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Location: Here | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-28 1:03 PM Timber Creek - 2014-04-28 12:55 PM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-28 11:04 AM OhMax - 2014-04-28 10:41 AM ndcowgirl - 2014-04-28 10:35 AM Stillwater vet clinic was the first to publish the info about the EHV case in Wisconsin. They said the horse tested positive for EHV non neurotrophic strain but did have neuro symptoms Ditto... Just saying, it's been a source of huge confusion for exactly what this outbreak is. I'm going to trust the Stillwater vets as they have been much closer to the action. Our mare did have neurological symptoms. She had lost hind end control and she was unable to urinate. She also had nasal discharge Thursday the 24th, the day she was euthanized. Her tests are positive for EHV-1 NON NEUROTROPHIC strain. We are extremely grateful for Stillwater vets. The have been in constant contact with us. Sending over more info and helping us monitor the rest of our herd. They have went above and beyond. Our local vets have been zero help. I had to call Kentucky to see if the tests were in. They of course couldn't release the info. Then had to badger the local vet to get the results. They didn't seem too concerned. You think they would have been a little more professional throughout this whole ordeal. I would like to thanks everybody for the kindess. We are holding the blame on ourselves. We knew the risks. We thought we took all the necessary precautions for safe travel. In the end it wasn't enough. We have come forward in hope that information will save just one horse. Taking temps for another 2 weeks. No horses in or out for 30 days. Also we aren't allowing any horse owners on the property and we aren't going to any property that has horses or to any horse related events. Under lock down. State inspector may come out to do walk through.
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Location: North Dakota | Thank you for all your information and for being so open and helpful. Hundreds of barrel racers have made the same decision as you to get out and compete. I was just at my first run of the year on Saturday. You are not to be blamed and absolutely NO ONE should judge you!!! Many many MANY people have made the same choice and even vets said it was ok to go. You just happened to be the one that got struck with an unforutnate situation. You cannot blame yourself! You made a choice that at the time you thought was the right one. Like others have said the only way to truly keep our horses away from risk of illness is to keep them at home and to quit hauling forever. Your horse could have come home healthy just as easy as it got sick. It is a risk we all take every time we haul. Heck even loading our horses up and driving them 75mph down the highway is dangerous. But if we just all live in fear of the unknown life would be miserable. I pray that peace comes over you and your family and this feeling of guilt and self blame subsides. |
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Location: 'Hawk Country | I am so very sorry for your family's loss. I wish this had not happened to you.
I am very grateful that you came on here to share what happened so that people will understand that there is a risk and that it does get passed on.
My 3 vets have said to stay home during both of the outbreaks and MANY people said they were wrong and vets who said it was ok to go were right.
I am just sorry this is the way for people to realize the truth of the matter.
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| I agree! When it was here in '11, I was told stay home. It stunk because it was May, but I think most people did stay home. So, it really did end fairly quickly. I think with vets telling folks it's okay to travel, this is going to go on and on...
Poor B&B! They took ALL the precautions, vets said it was okay to go but even with that - devastation. |
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Location: iowa | my question is....where did your horse get it from? how are there 1100 entries in a place and only 2 horses get sick. it seems that someone else must have had it also and didnt know it. so really, we just cant know where we might get it from. im so sorry for your loss, but it doesnt seem to me that you should be blamed at all. you were just unfortunately, an unlucky victim of a crappy disease.. |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | Thanks everybody for all the kind comments. We really do appreciate it. I know my mom has been checking in on this thread, she doesn't do the whole typing/computer thing much but I know she appreciates it as well.
I heard rumor that a test may be pending in IL as well. Not 100% sure on that. It would be great to know exactly how she got it but that's something we will never know unfortunately.
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Location: Iowa | From what I'm reading you can carry it on your clothes too. Who knows where. We all cross paths with lots of bugs everyday. Even walking in a gas station is a potential source. My vet told me to go. We were all informed of the risks. I'm so sorry for your loss. |
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| iacnchsr - 2014-04-28 8:20 PM
my question is....where did your horse get it from? how are there 1100 entries in a place and only 2 horses get sick. it seems that someone else must have had it also and didnt know it. so really, we just cant know where we might get it from. im so sorry for your loss, but it doesnt seem to me that you should be blamed at all. you were just unfortunately, an unlucky victim of a crappy disease..
From what I understand is that any number of those horses can be shedding the virus without anyone's knowledge. Depends on their immune system and their ability to cope with stress. But yes I agree, its really crappy luck that for whatever reason your horse is one where symptoms flare up |
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Location: iowa | i dont know that staying home will stop it. what if im at the gas station and the person in front of me at the counter has it on their coat. and i bump into them. and then go home and do my chores. i could bring it home without any contact with another horse. i see no reason to judge anyone for their actions in hauling or staying home. it seems to me you can get it anywhere. |
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Location: MO | I am so sorry for your loss. There is nothing I can say that will help other than that. I know what it is like to lose one very suddenly.
I did go to the Bonus Race too, hard decision to go, but my friends and I did go. We disinfected stalls with nixall, and When did yours start showing symptoms, and what were they? I will be and will continue to take temps AM and PM for the next few weeks just because. So far so ok though.
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Location: South Dakota | SG. - 2014-04-28 5:00 PM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-28 1:03 PM Timber Creek - 2014-04-28 12:55 PM Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-28 11:04 AM OhMax - 2014-04-28 10:41 AM ndcowgirl - 2014-04-28 10:35 AM Stillwater vet clinic was the first to publish the info about the EHV case in Wisconsin. They said the horse tested positive for EHV non neurotrophic strain but did have neuro symptoms Ditto... Just saying, it's been a source of huge confusion for exactly what this outbreak is. I'm going to trust the Stillwater vets as they have been much closer to the action. Our mare did have neurological symptoms. She had lost hind end control and she was unable to urinate. She also had nasal discharge Thursday the 24th, the day she was euthanized. Her tests are positive for EHV-1 NON NEUROTROPHIC strain. We are extremely grateful for Stillwater vets. The have been in constant contact with us. Sending over more info and helping us monitor the rest of our herd. They have went above and beyond. Our local vets have been zero help. I had to call Kentucky to see if the tests were in. They of course couldn't release the info. Then had to badger the local vet to get the results. They didn't seem too concerned. You think they would have been a little more professional throughout this whole ordeal. I would like to thanks everybody for the kindess. We are holding the blame on ourselves. We knew the risks. We thought we took all the necessary precautions for safe travel. In the end it wasn't enough. We have come forward in hope that information will save just one horse. Taking temps for another 2 weeks. No horses in or out for 30 days. Also we aren't allowing any horse owners on the property and we aren't going to any property that has horses or to any horse related events. Under lock down. State inspector may come out to do walk through.
I agree with SG, and you are a real horseperson too. I've been impressed by you since your first post and when I read that about the surgery on your mare and your daughter moving up to her I just cried. I'm thinking of you and praying for the rest of your horses. And I know they will be fine! |
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Location: Southern Wisconsin | Shushi - 2014-04-29 8:23 AM
I am so sorry for your loss. There is nothing I can say that will help other than that. I know what it is like to lose one very suddenly.
I did go to the Bonus Race too, hard decision to go, but my friends and I did go. We disinfected stalls with nixall, and When did yours start showing symptoms, and what were they? I will be and will continue to take temps AM and PM for the next few weeks just because. So far so ok though.
Again, So sorry for your loss and thank you for all your info on this.
Tuesday night we seen nothing out of the ordinary. On Wednesday my dad and I went out to fix some fence. Mama (mare who died) was picking at some grass. Another mare came over and started pin her ears to push her away. When Mama went to move quickly we noticed she was a little wobbly. We got a halter on her and started leading her up to the house. We have a pretty steep hill and she was having a hard time getting up it. We called my mom as the horses are at my farm, and told her to get out here. Called an emergency vet out. He gave dex and a feed through antibiotic. I checked on the mare throughout the night she still had an appetite. Thursday morning I noticed her being unable to urinate. Her wobblyness had increased. Our local vet refused to come put a catheter in her.... she also wouldn't show us how to do it. Our normal vet (1.5hours away) said to bring her up and he would but a catheter in but she couldn't get out of the trailer and risk the horses he had at the clinic. The odds of her making the trip weren't the best. ... what else were we suppose to do? We couldn't let her bladder burst...... at least we would have known that we tried to help her. She went down before the trip could be made and we made the decision to put her down. She had the look in her eyes. She had no fight left in her, she tried getting up a couple times and it was apparent. We couldn't help her anymore. Everybody gave her a pat and said our goodbyes.
Symptoms the 23rd.
Euthanized the 24th
Positive test The 26th
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Location: MO | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-29 9:31 AM Shushi - 2014-04-29 8:23 AM I am so sorry for your loss. There is nothing I can say that will help other than that. I know what it is like to lose one very suddenly.
I did go to the Bonus Race too, hard decision to go, but my friends and I did go. We disinfected stalls with nixall, and When did yours start showing symptoms, and what were they? I will be and will continue to take temps AM and PM for the next few weeks just because. So far so ok though.
Again, So sorry for your loss and thank you for all your info on this. Tuesday night we seen nothing out of the ordinary. On Wednesday my dad and I went out to fix some fence. Mama (mare who died ) was picking at some grass. Another mare came over and started pin her ears to push her away. When Mama went to move quickly we noticed she was a little wobbly. We got a halter on her and started leading her up to the house. We have a pretty steep hill and she was having a hard time getting up it. We called my mom as the horses are at my farm, and told her to get out here. Called an emergency vet out. He gave dex and a feed through antibiotic. I checked on the mare throughout the night she still had an appetite. Thursday morning I noticed her being unable to urinate. Her wobblyness had increased. Our local vet refused to come put a catheter in her.... she also wouldn't show us how to do it. Our normal vet (1.5hours away ) said to bring her up and he would but a catheter in but she couldn't get out of the trailer and risk the horses he had at the clinic. The odds of her making the trip weren't the best. ... what else were we suppose to do? We couldn't let her bladder burst...... at least we would have known that we tried to help her. She went down before the trip could be made and we made the decision to put her down. She had the look in her eyes. She had no fight left in her, she tried getting up a couple times and it was apparent. We couldn't help her anymore. Everybody gave her a pat and said our goodbyes. Symptoms the 23rd. Euthanized the 24th Positive test The 26th
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Barrels&Babies - 2014-04-29 9:31 AM Shushi - 2014-04-29 8:23 AM I am so sorry for your loss. There is nothing I can say that will help other than that. I know what it is like to lose one very suddenly.
I did go to the Bonus Race too, hard decision to go, but my friends and I did go. We disinfected stalls with nixall, and When did yours start showing symptoms, and what were they? I will be and will continue to take temps AM and PM for the next few weeks just because. So far so ok though.
Again, So sorry for your loss and thank you for all your info on this. Tuesday night we seen nothing out of the ordinary. On Wednesday my dad and I went out to fix some fence. Mama (mare who died ) was picking at some grass. Another mare came over and started pin her ears to push her away. When Mama went to move quickly we noticed she was a little wobbly. We got a halter on her and started leading her up to the house. We have a pretty steep hill and she was having a hard time getting up it. We called my mom as the horses are at my farm, and told her to get out here. Called an emergency vet out. He gave dex and a feed through antibiotic. I checked on the mare throughout the night she still had an appetite. Thursday morning I noticed her being unable to urinate. Her wobblyness had increased. Our local vet refused to come put a catheter in her.... she also wouldn't show us how to do it. Our normal vet (1.5hours away ) said to bring her up and he would but a catheter in but she couldn't get out of the trailer and risk the horses he had at the clinic. The odds of her making the trip weren't the best. ... what else were we suppose to do? We couldn't let her bladder burst...... at least we would have known that we tried to help her. She went down before the trip could be made and we made the decision to put her down. She had the look in her eyes. She had no fight left in her, she tried getting up a couple times and it was apparent. We couldn't help her anymore. Everybody gave her a pat and said our goodbyes. Symptoms the 23rd. Euthanized the 24th Positive test The 26th
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 Constantly Dieting
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Location: Down the Gravel Road near the Missouri River, SD | Heartbreaking..Im sitting here reading Momma's story. So sorry for your loss but thank you for sharing all your information to help the rest of us understand. |
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