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Location: My own little world :) | So I have chosen to breed my mare to Slick By Design but part of me wonders if he really is a good idea or maybe he is a new fad that isn't worth all the hype. I do have to confess that I over think everything...like my brain really never shuts off. So I don't know if it is the price of the breeding fee and whatnot that is getting to me or what. What are your thoughts on him? Thanks! |
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| His pedigree doesn't do much for ME, BUT he is very proven and he won a LOT in futurities so that says something about his mind frame as far as maturing and handling pressure at that age. I think in the future you'll see a lot of his babies coming up and doing well. His stud fee is fair also and you see some top names in the industry with babies of his on the ground this year. I think you did good. I'm the same can't sleep at night most times thinking about horse endeavors. |
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| Its April!!! You got to get the move on it. Lol |
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I picked a stud in 2012 for my VERY special mare and after we bred her i started to have 2nd thoughts. BUT i got lucky enough to see the stud in PERSON and even got to RIDE HIM! and ever since that day I didnt regret it for a 2nd! and as of Feb 23, 2014 I have a beefy bay stud colt on the ground that is healthy as a horse and SMART!
ALSO Slick by design foals wont have one problem selling. So honestly if the foal isnt everything you dreamed, Post that puppy and it will be gone in a heart beat.
They definitely will have resale value as well if that is a concern of yours =)
And this is another reason why breeding for resale is good because if the foal isnt your cup of tea, you can guarantee it will sell for a good price and be sought after! |
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Location: My own little world :) | barn goddess - 2014-04-09 11:16 PM
Its April!!! You got to get the move on it. Lol
haha thats why I'm feeling this way!!! My mare is headed to the vet next week! |
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Location: Desert Land | I'm breeding my Dash Ta Fame daughter out of a Leinster mare to Slick this year. I like the way he is put together and he is obviously a proven competitior. Check out his ad in barrel racing report and you can see all the high class mares people are breeding to this year. I don't think you could go wrong. |
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| to be honest i liked him when he ran with the previous rider better but obviously he does great with all of his riders which gives him mega points lol.... and charlie and jason wouldnt have a stud that wasnt amazing... if i had a mare to breed and the money he would be the one i would breed her to |
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| I've seen him run a lot at rodeos and I really like him. He moves well and he's aggressive and has a lot of try and heart. He really impressed me. The colt won't have a problem selling if you decide later you don't like him. I bred my mare to Blazin Jetolena and got a really cool colt he's two now...love that stud. My second choice would be slick by design or something by corona cartel. Honestly I'm not really into what stud to breed to but I do like something that isn't huge, that moves good and has a lot of try whether on the track or in the arena. More than the stud however, I'm into what mare you're breeding to said stud? I bred my rodeo mare to BJ and I pick and choose what mares I breed I only breed the mares that are talented and that have a lot of heart and try, that preform well and that are aggressive. Jmo |
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Location: Sweet Home Alabama | I would. I think his babies are going to be a good investment & sell for 3x or 4x his fee. I'm not really a fan of his pedigree either but he's definitely an athlete & looks like he enjoys running.
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Location: Oklahoma | Don't do it.....
{I don't want him to gain too much popularity because I want to have a mare and breed to him in a few years!!!!! I don't want his fee to get to get out of my budget!}
But if you do decide to go ahead and breed him and don't like your foal... DIBS |
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| I cant wait to breed to him...next year. The plan was this year, that got delayed. With the mare power going to him, it would be very unlikly for him not to produce, especially considering what he has done himself. I challenge you to find another horse that has done as much as he has at such a young age. He is a super freak...in a good way!
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Location: Desert Land | Whiteboy - 2014-04-10 6:58 AM
I cant wait to breed to him...next year. The plan was this year, that got delayed. With the mare power going to him if he doesn't produce, it would be very unlikly for him not to produce, especially considering what he has done himself. I challenge you to find a horse that has done as much as he has at such a young age. He is a super freak...in a good way!
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| It's always a gamble when you breed one. Yes Slick himself is very nice and proven, but if his babies will be remains yet to be seen. (There have been other sires not produce near what they were - ie, Secretariat). His maternal line doesn't do much for me, but word is his mother was an outstanding jackpot horse and just didn't haul much which is why you haven't really heard of her. The better question to ask would be does he compliment the mare I am breeding? If you have a 14.3 hand stocky mare, he probably wouldn't be my first choice! Obviously his siring ability won't be know for many years down the road. |
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Location: My own little world :) | luckygirl04 - 2014-04-10 1:15 AM
I've seen him run a lot at rodeos and I really like him. He moves well and he's aggressive and has a lot of try and heart. He really impressed me. The colt won't have a problem selling if you decide later you don't like him. I bred my mare to Blazin Jetolena and got a really cool colt he's two now...love that stud. My second choice would be slick by design or something by corona cartel. Honestly I'm not really into what stud to breed to but I do like something that isn't huge, that moves good and has a lot of try whether on the track or in the arena. More than the stud however, I'm into what mare you're breeding to said stud? I bred my rodeo mare to BJ and I pick and choose what mares I breed I only breed the mares that are talented and that have a lot of heart and try, that preform well and that are aggressive. Jmo
I too agree with you on how the mare is extremely important. The mare I have has not been raced or shown so that is a bummer but I really like her temperament and I think she is put together well. I have a 3/4 sibling to her that I just love and am hoping to futurity next year. Also, the filly I got out of her last year has a great mind and is pretty good looking. The mare that I will be breeding is by Darkelly and out of a Beduino bred mare. |
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Location: My own little world :) | Longneck - 2014-04-10 8:50 AM
Don't do it.....
{I don't want him to gain too much popularity because I want to have a mare and breed to him in a few years!!!!! I don't want his fee to get to get out of my budget!}
But if you do decide to go ahead and breed him and don't like your foal... DIBS
Hahaha!! Ok I will keep you in mind when the foal finally shows up :) |
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Location: In a happy place | Whiteboy - 2014-04-10 8:58 AM I cant wait to breed to him...next year. The plan was this year, that got delayed. With the mare power going to him, it would be very unlikly for him not to produce, especially considering what he has done himself. I challenge you to find another horse that has done as much as he has at such a young age. He is a super freak...in a good way!
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Location: Texas | I have been around him with the orignial lady that hauled him. I didn't know he was a stallion for a long time. He was awesome when I seen him a few years ago and rode next to him and he never batted a eye. I would breed to him if I had a mare. |
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| SwishMiss - 2014-04-09 2:11 PM His pedigree doesn't do much for ME, BUT he is very proven and he won a LOT in futurities so that says something about his mind frame as far as maturing and handling pressure at that age. I think in the future you'll see a lot of his babies coming up and doing well. His stud fee is fair also and you see some top names in the industry with babies of his on the ground this year. I think you did good. I'm the same can't sleep at night most times thinking about horse endeavors.
I am going to agree with SwishMiss... I have been around thoroughbread horses for over 15 years and the pedegree don't mean squat to me...but the horses performance is an clear indicator that he/she performs good and is worth breeding.... I say she also due to mares that perform good in barrel events, even though the papers say they come from poor background.... remember that not all horses are made equal so when you see that one special one that starts to make waves.. take advantage of that.. cuz you might miss out.
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Location: Wyoming | BillTurner_Ocala - 2014-04-10 2:56 PM
SwishMiss - 2014-04-09 2:11 PM His pedigree doesn't do much for ME, BUT he is very proven and he won a LOT in futurities so that says something about his mind frame as far as maturing and handling pressure at that age. I think in the future you'll see a lot of his babies coming up and doing well. His stud fee is fair also and you see some top names in the industry with babies of his on the ground this year. I think you did good. I'm the same can't sleep at night most times thinking about horse endeavors.
I am going to agree with SwishMiss... I have been around thoroughbread horses for over 15 years and the pedegree don't mean squat to me...but the horses performance is an clear indicator that he/she performs good and is worth breeding.... I say she also due to mares that perform good in barrel events, even though the papers say they come from poor background.... remember that not all horses are made equal so when you see that one special one that starts to make waves.. take advantage of that.. cuz you might miss out.
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WOW how does Designer Red not do anything for you?? Not only was he a proven barrel horse, he has also produced A LOT of very nice barrel horses! sheesh, you aren't giving him enough credit! |
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Location: Desert Land | perfectturns - 2014-04-10 1:53 PM BillTurner_Ocala - 2014-04-10 2:56 PM SwishMiss - 2014-04-09 2:11 PM His pedigree doesn't do much for ME, BUT he is very proven and he won a LOT in futurities so that says something about his mind frame as far as maturing and handling pressure at that age. I think in the future you'll see a lot of his babies coming up and doing well. His stud fee is fair also and you see some top names in the industry with babies of his on the ground this year. I think you did good. I'm the same can't sleep at night most times thinking about horse endeavors. I am going to agree with SwishMiss... I have been around thoroughbread horses for over 15 years and the pedegree don't mean squat to me...but the horses performance is an clear indicator that he/she performs good and is worth breeding.... I say she also due to mares that perform good in barrel events, even though the papers say they come from poor background.... remember that not all horses are made equal so when you see that one special one that starts to make waves.. take advantage of that.. cuz you might miss out.
BootStrap WOW how does Designer Red not do anything for you?? Not only was he a proven barrel horse, he has also produced A LOT of very nice barrel horses! sheesh, you aren't giving him enough credit!
To be honest, I am not that big of a fan of Designer Red - but that is because I am not a fan of OTMR. I don't take away anything from him or what he produced, but I don't get along with the OTMR own get that I have ridden and been around. BUT being a fan of Slick and him only being a grandson of OTMR (and my resulting baby wil be great grand get), I'm willing to take a chance. Plus truly honestly believe Slick will produce and the re-sale value on his babies will be great. |
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| perfectturns - 2014-04-10 3:53 PM BillTurner_Ocala - 2014-04-10 2:56 PM SwishMiss - 2014-04-09 2:11 PM His pedigree doesn't do much for ME, BUT he is very proven and he won a LOT in futurities so that says something about his mind frame as far as maturing and handling pressure at that age. I think in the future you'll see a lot of his babies coming up and doing well. His stud fee is fair also and you see some top names in the industry with babies of his on the ground this year. I think you did good. I'm the same can't sleep at night most times thinking about horse endeavors. I am going to agree with SwishMiss... I have been around thoroughbread horses for over 15 years and the pedegree don't mean squat to me...but the horses performance is an clear indicator that he/she performs good and is worth breeding.... I say she also due to mares that perform good in barrel events, even though the papers say they come from poor background.... remember that not all horses are made equal so when you see that one special one that starts to make waves.. take advantage of that.. cuz you might miss out.
BootStrap WOW how does Designer Red not do anything for you?? Not only was he a proven barrel horse, he has also produced A LOT of very nice barrel horses! sheesh, you aren't giving him enough credit!
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Location: Desert Land | Whiteboy - 2014-04-10 2:15 PM perfectturns - 2014-04-10 3:53 PM BillTurner_Ocala - 2014-04-10 2:56 PM SwishMiss - 2014-04-09 2:11 PM His pedigree doesn't do much for ME, BUT he is very proven and he won a LOT in futurities so that says something about his mind frame as far as maturing and handling pressure at that age. I think in the future you'll see a lot of his babies coming up and doing well. His stud fee is fair also and you see some top names in the industry with babies of his on the ground this year. I think you did good. I'm the same can't sleep at night most times thinking about horse endeavors. I am going to agree with SwishMiss... I have been around thoroughbread horses for over 15 years and the pedegree don't mean squat to me...but the horses performance is an clear indicator that he/she performs good and is worth breeding.... I say she also due to mares that perform good in barrel events, even though the papers say they come from poor background.... remember that not all horses are made equal so when you see that one special one that starts to make waves.. take advantage of that.. cuz you might miss out.
BootStrap WOW how does Designer Red not do anything for you?? Not only was he a proven barrel horse, he has also produced A LOT of very nice barrel horses! sheesh, you aren't giving him enough credit!
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Location: The Saudia Arabia of Wind Energy, Western Oklahoma | What kind of foot does he have on him? Does he have a splattered out race horse type of foot or a good hard, black, upright kind of foot? Does he have some set to is hocks or is he straight behind? That is what I want to know. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | TheOldGrayMare - 2014-04-10 3:08 PM perfectturns - 2014-04-10 1:53 PM BillTurner_Ocala - 2014-04-10 2:56 PM SwishMiss - 2014-04-09 2:11 PM His pedigree doesn't do much for ME, BUT he is very proven and he won a LOT in futurities so that says something about his mind frame as far as maturing and handling pressure at that age. I think in the future you'll see a lot of his babies coming up and doing well. His stud fee is fair also and you see some top names in the industry with babies of his on the ground this year. I think you did good. I'm the same can't sleep at night most times thinking about horse endeavors. I am going to agree with SwishMiss... I have been around thoroughbread horses for over 15 years and the pedegree don't mean squat to me...but the horses performance is an clear indicator that he/she performs good and is worth breeding.... I say she also due to mares that perform good in barrel events, even though the papers say they come from poor background.... remember that not all horses are made equal so when you see that one special one that starts to make waves.. take advantage of that.. cuz you might miss out.
BootStrap WOW how does Designer Red not do anything for you?? Not only was he a proven barrel horse, he has also produced A LOT of very nice barrel horses! sheesh, you aren't giving him enough credit!
I am with this crowd too. Nothing in his pedigree impresses me, I do appreciate what he has done though. I just have never liked On The Money Red (how he looks) and I did own a daughter and she was just not my style.
I have never seen him in person so I can't really judge him other than by pictures. I would breed to him if I was wanting to sell the foal though, I do think there will be a good market for them. And as I mentioned, his reputation as a performer is outstanding. |
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| How big is he. I am another i like him but dont like on the money red, they cam be stiff and some are small. Not that small horses cant run, but if they are small you limit who you can sell to like jet o rednot a big horse, nicole is a small,person, but a 165 pound man will not help that mare. I like blazin jetolina if they belong to,someone else in the fact he would not fit my mare as i want a little running blood and my mare is 15 hand and 1250 in shape and with him beimg 14.3 and i dont know how honest that is it is off the website. It is like streak of fling i have seen several on this website under 15 hands i know they can be winners but you limit who u can sell to. Also, stingrays sire i have also seen offspring way under 15 hands. I dont want a giraffe like 17hands, i have a 16.1 gelding as a 2 yo he was 14.2 a little under weight and more i fed him the more he grew just a freak, his moma was 14.3 dady was 15.0 hands, who would guest it, he grew to 16.1, but it was known that the sire did throw some big gelding. Just a thought. I know that hotshot was barely 14.1 hands i was in a tie stall next to,him my 15.0 hand mare looked like a giant, but once you put a little person on him he was a freak. Sorry about a rant. i kmow my mare if she had ben leggier she would have been a freak. She was 15 hands 1250 lbs she would have won a lot more if i could have gotton 2 tenths more out of her at the big shows. She gave me the same run and run her heart out she probably did not knock 10 barrels over in her life. She was about a 10th place horse in about 700 horses. Needed a little more not much. She was wonderful in any building, and the older she got and the smarter i got the better she did. She always gqve me what she had. She could have been hot, he mother was reitred by add wadell because she was a little to up. Her sire panama edition was a little on the muscle not all:-)of babies are on the muscle, my gelding is quiet, except when he is hurting. Butmwhen looking for,a stud you need to look at everything, just like if you have a nice stallion that is 17 hands. |
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Location: Texas | You guys are talking about April and getting a move on- I CANT BREED HIM UNTIL MY MARE FOALS! argh! Still holding it hostage!
I don't really like catching on foal heat just because I have to go haul the mom and baby away when its so little but looks like I will be doing that to have a foal at a decent time next year. |
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Whiteboy - 2014-04-10 2:15 PM perfectturns - 2014-04-10 3:53 PM BillTurner_Ocala - 2014-04-10 2:56 PM SwishMiss - 2014-04-09 2:11 PM His pedigree doesn't do much for ME, BUT he is very proven and he won a LOT in futurities so that says something about his mind frame as far as maturing and handling pressure at that age. I think in the future you'll see a lot of his babies coming up and doing well. His stud fee is fair also and you see some top names in the industry with babies of his on the ground this year. I think you did good. I'm the same can't sleep at night most times thinking about horse endeavors. I am going to agree with SwishMiss... I have been around thoroughbread horses for over 15 years and the pedegree don't mean squat to me...but the horses performance is an clear indicator that he/she performs good and is worth breeding.... I say she also due to mares that perform good in barrel events, even though the papers say they come from poor background.... remember that not all horses are made equal so when you see that one special one that starts to make waves.. take advantage of that.. cuz you might miss out.
BootStrap WOW how does Designer Red not do anything for you?? Not only was he a proven barrel horse, he has also produced A LOT of very nice barrel horses! sheesh, you aren't giving him enough credit!
There's a lot more to a pedigree than ONE horse.. just saying.. anyway regardless the stallion himself is proven that's all that matters. |
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Location: LaCygne, KS | ksjackofalltrades - 2014-04-10 6:03 PM What kind of foot does he have on him? Does he have a splattered out race horse type of foot or a good hard, black, upright kind of foot? Does he have some set to is hocks or is he straight behind? That is what I want to know.
Good questions. I haven't seen Slick By Design in person, but we have 3 mares booked to him. We have raised 5 colts/fillies sired by Designer Red through the years and they all had good to exceptionaly good feet. When the reports were that Slick was moderate size, had a good disposition and was obviously beating the competition, I called last fall and booked daughters of Rare Jet Extremes SI 102 and a daughter of Title Contenderto him. John Teagarden |
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Location: LaCygne, KS | The pedigree of Slick's dam does a LOT for me. IMO, there are no holes in it. Mito Paint is the sire of Judge Cash's dam. Any one that has studied the Legends books or pedigrees or has been around offspring of such horses as Three Ohs, Depth Charge, Top Deck, Leo, Pass Em Up, King, Chubby, etc has to like the extended pedigree of Slick's dam.
The above named sires are not house hold names/influencial on the TB track, but they have certainly added speed and performance to the quarter horse industry.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Prehistoric - 2014-04-10 9:51 PM The pedigree of Slick's dam does a LOT for me. IMO, there are no holes in it. Mito Paint is the sire of Judge Cash's dam. Any one that has studied the Legends books or pedigrees or has been around offspring of such horses as Three Ohs, Depth Charge, Top Deck, Leo, Pass Em Up, King, Chubby, etc has to like the extended pedigree of Slick's dam.
he does have really nice horses, especially if you are an On The Money Red fan and IMO Designer Red was better looking than his sire. As far as his dam, for the sake of argument. Mito Paint is 4 generations back as well as Pass Em Up another 4 generations back and again Three Ohs. Some will know Mito Wise Dancer but when I think of a standout stallion pedigree (just throwing this one out there) look at Chasin Firewater. He is by a leading stallion FWF. His dam is a major performer/producer by Bugs Alive in 75. An all time leading broodmare sire. Her dam is by the great Tiny Charger and the super producing mare Rocket Elaine. That is a no holes pedigree.
Slick By Design will be a good sire because he is proven and getting nice mares. Only time will tell if he will be remembered 20 yrs from now as a leading sire...and those that bred to him will be tickled pink. Those that didn't...well there is a new HOT stallion every yr. It's all about what you like. I mentioned before, I would breed to him for re sale value because I think his foals will be pretty hot and so far the ones I have seen on facebook are nice babies. |
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| Well, I don't know what your mare looks like so, all I can say is I see the Beduino and Darkelly and know some people don't like Beduino at all. And I've heard some don't care for Darkelly. But I thought Slick was pretty dang impressive for a young stallion at the NFR for the first time so, at least he's bringing alot of brains to the table for you.. |
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| SwishMiss - 2014-04-10 10:12 PM TheOldGrayMare - 2014-04-10 4:07 PM Whiteboy - 2014-04-10 2:15 PM perfectturns - 2014-04-10 3:53 PM BillTurner_Ocala - 2014-04-10 2:56 PM SwishMiss - 2014-04-09 2:11 PM His pedigree doesn't do much for ME, BUT he is very proven and he won a LOT in futurities so that says something about his mind frame as far as maturing and handling pressure at that age. I think in the future you'll see a lot of his babies coming up and doing well. His stud fee is fair also and you see some top names in the industry with babies of his on the ground this year. I think you did good. I'm the same can't sleep at night most times thinking about horse endeavors. I am going to agree with SwishMiss... I have been around thoroughbread horses for over 15 years and the pedegree don't mean squat to me...but the horses performance is an clear indicator that he/she performs good and is worth breeding.... I say she also due to mares that perform good in barrel events, even though the papers say they come from poor background.... remember that not all horses are made equal so when you see that one special one that starts to make waves.. take advantage of that.. cuz you might miss out.
BootStrap WOW how does Designer Red not do anything for you?? Not only was he a proven barrel horse, he has also produced A LOT of very nice barrel horses! sheesh, you aren't giving him enough credit! There's a lot more to a pedigree than ONE horse.. just saying.. anyway regardless the stallion himself is proven that's all that matters.
What about the other $600K plus that he produced in the last few years, excluding slick? They must be getting some other really nice horses in those pedigrees. Designer red is the #7 leading sire over the last 5 years. You can ride the numbers or be beat by the numbers. |
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Location: Texas | ksjackofalltrades - 2014-04-10 6:03 PM What kind of foot does he have on him? Does he have a splattered out race horse type of foot or a good hard, black, upright kind of foot? Does he have some set to is hocks or is he straight behind? That is what I want to know.
He is built very nicely and correct from what I remember. Because I remember looking at him and oogling over him and never knew he was a stud. |
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Location: Desert Land | casualdust07 - 2014-04-10 7:04 PM You guys are talking about April and getting a move on- I CANT BREED HIM UNTIL MY MARE FOALS! argh! Still holding it hostage! I don't really like catching on foal heat just because I have to go haul the mom and baby away when its so little but looks like I will be doing that to have a foal at a decent time next year.
I'm right there with you. The mare I have booked to Slick is in foal to Chasin Firewater and not due until May 22nd! I am going to take her to the vet to foal out though and get bred on her foal heat. I want to try to get an earlier baby next year. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | wyoming barrel racer - 2014-04-10 7:07 PM TheOldGrayMare - 2014-04-10 3:08 PM perfectturns - 2014-04-10 1:53 PM BillTurner_Ocala - 2014-04-10 2:56 PM SwishMiss - 2014-04-09 2:11 PM His pedigree doesn't do much for ME, BUT he is very proven and he won a LOT in futurities so that says something about his mind frame as far as maturing and handling pressure at that age. I think in the future you'll see a lot of his babies coming up and doing well. His stud fee is fair also and you see some top names in the industry with babies of his on the ground this year. I think you did good. I'm the same can't sleep at night most times thinking about horse endeavors. I am going to agree with SwishMiss... I have been around thoroughbread horses for over 15 years and the pedegree don't mean squat to me...but the horses performance is an clear indicator that he/she performs good and is worth breeding.... I say she also due to mares that perform good in barrel events, even though the papers say they come from poor background.... remember that not all horses are made equal so when you see that one special one that starts to make waves.. take advantage of that.. cuz you might miss out.
BootStrap WOW how does Designer Red not do anything for you?? Not only was he a proven barrel horse, he has also produced A LOT of very nice barrel horses! sheesh, you aren't giving him enough credit!
I have never seen him in person so I can't really judge him other than by pictures. I would breed to him if I was wanting to sell the foal though, I do think there will be a good market for them. And as I mentioned, his reputation as a performer is outstanding.
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Location: TEXAS | Slick is an awesome horse, not just because of the obvious (he can win) but by his attitude. I have never been around a horse with as much try or heart as he does. He is the most well mannered stud to be around and has this look in his eye that tells he is a winner. He LOVES to run. When the trailer leaves without him, he stands by his stall door and it's like he's telling you, "Please let me go."
He ran 12 times in 2012, then after surgery, won the Fort Smith Derby in May of 2013, and then it took off from there. He didn't enter a PRCA rodeo until May, and ended up 5th in the world in 2013, AS A 6 YEAR OLD. That's unheard of. At the WPRA Luncheon at the NFR, Slick won the Rising Star Award, and was runner up Horse of the Year. He is the coolest little black horse you'll ever see. He loves his job, and in my opinion, has the best looking head on a horse I've ever seen. From the babies he has thrown this year, he is passing on his athleticism, his head, and his attitude. I think if you breed to him, you won't regret it. He's truly amazing. :) |
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Location: My own little world :) | lmcleod28 - 2014-04-11 11:03 AM
Slick is an awesome horse, not just because of the obvious (he can win) but by his attitude. I have never been around a horse with as much try or heart as he does. He is the most well mannered stud to be around and has this look in his eye that tells he is a winner. He LOVES to run. When the trailer leaves without him, he stands by his stall door and it's like he's telling you, "Please let me go."
He ran 12 times in 2012, then after surgery, won the Fort Smith Derby in May of 2013, and then it took off from there. He didn't enter a PRCA rodeo until May, and ended up 5th in the world in 2013, AS A 6 YEAR OLD. That's unheard of. At the WPRA Luncheon at the NFR, Slick won the Rising Star Award, and was runner up Horse of the Year. He is the coolest little black horse you'll ever see. He loves his job, and in my opinion, has the best looking head on a horse I've ever seen. From the babies he has thrown this year, he is passing on his athleticism, his head, and his attitude. I think if you breed to him, you won't regret it. He's truly amazing. :)
Woohoo!!! This is what I needed to hear! I think it is just the nerves of it all and for me the expense to get the whole process taken care of but it sounds like its worth it! But truly I mean look at what he has done...I know that sometimes "freaks" like him don't always pass along the same great attributes but what if he does? I would be missing quite the opportunity really if I didn't go through with this. I'm also excited because my mare is a sister to Kellies Chick who is doing great things herself. Hopefully it will be a winning combination!! Thanks :) |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | lmcleod28 - 2014-04-11 10:03 AM Slick is an awesome horse, not just because of the obvious (he can win) but by his attitude. I have never been around a horse with as much try or heart as he does. He is the most well mannered stud to be around and has this look in his eye that tells he is a winner. He LOVES to run. When the trailer leaves without him, he stands by his stall door and it's like he's telling you, "Please let me go." He ran 12 times in 2012, then after surgery, won the Fort Smith Derby in May of 2013, and then it took off from there. He didn't enter a PRCA rodeo until May, and ended up 5th in the world in 2013, AS A 6 YEAR OLD. That's unheard of. At the WPRA Luncheon at the NFR, Slick won the Rising Star Award, and was runner up Horse of the Year. He is the coolest little black horse you'll ever see. He loves his job, and in my opinion, has the best looking head on a horse I've ever seen. From the babies he has thrown this year, he is passing on his athleticism, his head, and his attitude. I think if you breed to him, you won't regret it. He's truly amazing. :)
I do love how he was wanting to work so bad at the NFR. He appears to really love his job and that says a lot about the trainability and disposition. |
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Location: tennessee | 3 To Go - 2014-04-11 1:14 PM It's always a gamble when you breed one. Yes Slick himself is very nice and proven, but if his babies will be remains yet to be seen. (There have been other sires not produce near what they were - ie, Secretariat). His maternal line doesn't do much for me, but word is his mother was an outstanding jackpot horse and just didn't haul much which is why you haven't really heard of her. The better question to ask would be does he compliment the mare I am breeding? If you have a 14.3 hand stocky mare, he probably wouldn't be my first choice! Obviously his siring ability won't be know for many years down the road.
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/index.php?query_type=horse&h=IMA+A+SHINING+STAR&g=5&cellpadding=0&small_font=1&l=
I am breeding this 14.3 stocky mare to him.I think they will cross good. |
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| TheOldGrayMare - 2014-04-10 9:07 AM Whiteboy - 2014-04-10 2:15 PM perfectturns - 2014-04-10 3:53 PM BillTurner_Ocala - 2014-04-10 2:56 PM SwishMiss - 2014-04-09 2:11 PM His pedigree doesn't do much for ME, BUT he is very proven and he won a LOT in futurities so that says something about his mind frame as far as maturing and handling pressure at that age. I think in the future you'll see a lot of his babies coming up and doing well. His stud fee is fair also and you see some top names in the industry with babies of his on the ground this year. I think you did good. I'm the same can't sleep at night most times thinking about horse endeavors. I am going to agree with SwishMiss... I have been around thoroughbread horses for over 15 years and the pedegree don't mean squat to me...but the horses performance is an clear indicator that he/she performs good and is worth breeding.... I say she also due to mares that perform good in barrel events, even though the papers say they come from poor background.... remember that not all horses are made equal so when you see that one special one that starts to make waves.. take advantage of that.. cuz you might miss out.
BootStrap WOW how does Designer Red not do anything for you?? Not only was he a proven barrel horse, he has also produced A LOT of very nice barrel horses! sheesh, you aren't giving him enough credit!
I am not taking credit from good horses, by no means, but what I do mean is that to me, performance outweighs pedigree. Not all champions produce champions..so lets be real.. There are a lot of good performing horses that I have clocked myself that have had the ability to outperform "champions" but have never made it due to many other factors in the horse world...
Breeding thoroughbreds and even other horses, in the hopes of producing a champion has always been a gamble, causing more frustration than triumph. But every so often, the right combination of stallion and mare can produce a winner.
But the bottom line is, performance is always the true winner. I have track down for instance most of Secretariat’s breed line and you tell me exactly how many “champions” came after him, only 5 out of every 80 horses’ blood line have a good record. That number should tell you something REAL !!!
Like my grandma says, “The proof, is in the pudding” !!!
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| I'm breeding my Dash For Perks daughter to him. I think he's a pretty cool dude and a good investment. |
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| I think you need to get in on the deal while you can. I picked up a BARREL RACER magazine and in the ad for him it listed some pretty nice and well known mares that have bred to him this year. These mares are owned by people who will do something with the offspring. That in itself should make your offspring worth more. |
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | Honeymoney - 2014-04-13 2:16 PM I think you need to get in on the deal while you can. I picked up a BARREL RACER magazine and in the ad for him it listed some pretty nice and well known mares that have bred to him this year. These mares are owned by people who will do something with the offspring. That in itself should make your offspring worth more.
I think you will only see his fee increase as well. As for the super mares being bred to him, I used to think that was a big deal, flipping through the ads in Speedhorse and seeing last yrs Champion filly's being bred to so and so...and now with embryo transfer that same mare can be bred to 6 different stallions. They can afford the gamble of letting them have one foal by new stallions and a few by older proven sires. |
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Stallion choice second thoughts :(