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Location: NE Texas | LRQHS has got some gorgeous colts out of a First To Shine daughter.  |
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Location: Vinton, La. | They are kinda like Almond Joy's and Mounds candy bars. Sometimes they feel like a nut, and sometimes they don't.
I have a yearling colt out of a Smoke N Sparks mare. He's not a bad colt. Had a full sister to my yearling that was meaner and nuttier than heck.
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| I have a mare by First To Shine and out of a daughter of Mr. Jess Perry. Ran for about $24k on the track with a 105 SI. The only time she ever got excited was when I pulled her out of the trailer the first time at my house. There are not many bloodlines you can pull off the track and jump on and take off in to the sage brush and act like they have done it all their life. She jumped at the first rabbit, never even flinched after that. I bought her to breed, and have only had her a few months now. I really wish I had two, one to ride and one to breed.
ETA: that is her in my profile pic.
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Location: South Dakota | I've got one that looks like a calf horse and has a calf horse stop. A full brother of hers won about 300,000. She's got a super mind. I like em!!! |
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Location: Kansas | Jennifer needs to come on here! Cause she has a broodmare by him, and boy is that mare one good looking gal!!!! |
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Location: Arkansas | We had one that we really liked. Could go run him, then park him at the fence out of the alley and he would cock up a foot and almost snooze. He was very cowy as well. Hubby used him on the ranch and in a couple of small ranch rodeos. He was making a really nice barrel horse when we sold him. Kind of a clown but easy to get along with. |
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Location: Midwest | I will try to steal some pics of Jennifer's mare for you guys. I don't know much about her personality, but she's gorgeous looking! |
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Location: Midwest | This year's colt... I think he's two weeks?
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/justa+finer+shine+colt
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Location: Midwest | Here's Justa Finer Shine
And her 2013 colt
2013 colt recent photo
Yall are welcome... contact LRQHs with all your questions hahaha
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Lmao...thank you guys! My daughter won $15,500 on the track. Is not bad in any way. I have had 3 gorgeous colts from her. I did have her for sale at one time, but it would take the Hope Diamond to buy her now lol. I'm going to get another daughter or 2 at some point. |
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Location: In a happy place | Whiteboy - 2014-04-18 2:54 PM I have a mare by First To Shine and out of a daughter of Mr. Jess Perry. Ran for about $24k on the track with a 105 SI. The only time she ever got excited was when I pulled her out of the trailer the first time at my house. There are not many bloodlines you can pull off the track and jump on and take off in to the sage brush and act like they have done it all their life. She jumped at the first rabbit, never even flinched after that. I bought her to breed, and have only had her a few months now. I really wish I had two, one to ride and one to breed.
ETA: that is her in my profile pic.
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Location: Montana | Bigtime mistake - 2014-04-18 1:41 PM They are kinda like Almond Joy's and Mounds candy bars. Sometimes they feel like a nut, and sometimes they don't. I have a yearling colt out of a Smoke N Sparks mare. He's not a bad colt. Had a full sister to my yearling that was meaner and nuttier than heck. The colts and geldings are better liked down here in Louisiana for race training then the fillies are.
I had an own son of Smoke N Sparks and your description was him to a tee. So I wonder if your colts are getting it from the mare side. |
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Location: Vinton, La. | Yes and no. She is a hot mare and some of her fillies are also hot. Her colts are the opposite and want to please. I have a Panther Mountain gelding out of her that I sold as a yearling and claimed back last year, who is a complete sweetheart. Kindest, sweetest horse you could ask for.
My experience with First To Shine offspring are race track only. I groomed for 17 years and have been around plenty. Also, the big trainers will tell you the same thing about the fillies. Don't get me wrong, I loved First To Shine or wouldn't have bred to him twice. He was one of the best looking stallion's around up to the day he died.
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| FIRST TO SHINE is always an added plus to your broodmares or babies.
Dashin Alabama is out of a daughter of FTS and crossed with my stallion has fantastic conformationed babies that are easy to train .....
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/dashin+Alabama
With the indepth barrel bloodlines and speed from the Mr Jess Perry and FTS lines these babies should be dynamite barrel smokers ... all 3 of her foals are full brothers and I am breeding her back the same way .. they are that good!! COUGARS SLING SHOT ...
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/cougars+sling+shot
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| I have a filly, a yearling, out of a daughter of First to Shine. Ruzsa's :)
She is by FWOTR.
I hope she makes a good cross!
I tell the filly can accelerate from 0 to 90 faster than you can blink your eyes!
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Here's the 2014 colt again out of my FTS daughter. He will be 2 weeks old tomorrow :)
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| Thanks everybody! I'm looking at a couple of different horses, each is by a daughter of First to shine. I was just curious what people thought of them. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | checkmate - 2014-04-21 8:54 AM Thanks everybody! I'm looking at a couple of different horses, each is by a daughter of First to shine. I was just curious what people thought of them. I have some videos of mine on Facebook (Jennifer LaCombe) if you want to see their personalities and temperment. I love them. The yearling boy I have is my go to horse for everything from teaching others to load, a trailering partner, a paddock companion, etc. He's super smart, dependable and a very quick learner. He, also, has a great personality. I can read him like a book lol. And....I'm not just saying this because he's mine lol. I, also, have the Spawn of Satan, but it's not my First to Shine. The weanling colt is going to be the same. I see the same personality in the baby.
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Location: Texas | I have a gelding by First To Shine out of Jessies Arrangement by Mr Jess Perry. I love this horse and he has tons of personality and very easy to be around. However, I am really having an issue with him turning before the 2nd barrel though and I can't figure it out! I have been contemplating selling him but listening to all of you maybe I should hold out a bit longer and get this issue resolved. He did high lope a nice pattern a couple weeks ago in our "home pen" and clocked the bottom of the 2D with some really tough horses. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | barrels1 - 2014-04-21 2:27 PM I have a gelding by First To Shine out of Jessies Arrangement by Mr Jess Perry. I love this horse and he has tons of personality and very easy to be around. However, I am really having an issue with him turning before the 2nd barrel though and I can't figure it out! I have been contemplating selling him but listening to all of you maybe I should hold out a bit longer and get this issue resolved. He did high lope a nice pattern a couple weeks ago in our "home pen" and clocked the bottom of the 2D with some really tough horses.
I'm not a barrel trainer, but if that is his only issue, I'm pretty sure there's an easy fix for that. Did you ask advise for on here? I'll bet someone has a solution. |
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| LRQHS - 2014-04-21 2:31 PM barrels1 - 2014-04-21 2:27 PM I have a gelding by First To Shine out of Jessies Arrangement by Mr Jess Perry. I love this horse and he has tons of personality and very easy to be around. However, I am really having an issue with him turning before the 2nd barrel though and I can't figure it out! I have been contemplating selling him but listening to all of you maybe I should hold out a bit longer and get this issue resolved. He did high lope a nice pattern a couple weeks ago in our "home pen" and clocked the bottom of the 2D with some really tough horses. I'm not a barrel trainer, but if that is his only issue, I'm pretty sure there's an easy fix for that. Did you ask advise for on here? I'll bet someone has a solution.
Yes, I agree. Fix the issue. Where FTS has passed away, they are going to become harder to get ahold of. I think the grandget are going to be hot little items in the arena. |
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Location: Texas | LRQHS - 2014-04-21 2:31 PM
barrels1 - 2014-04-21 2:27 PM I have a gelding by First To Shine out of Jessies Arrangement by Mr Jess Perry. I love this horse and he has tons of personality and very easy to be around. However, I am really having an issue with him turning before the 2nd barrel though and I can't figure it out! I have been contemplating selling him but listening to all of you maybe I should hold out a bit longer and get this issue resolved. He did high lope a nice pattern a couple weeks ago in our "home pen" and clocked the bottom of the 2D with some really tough horses.
I'm not a barrel trainer, but if that is his only issue, I'm pretty sure there's an easy fix for that. Did you ask advise for on here? I'll bet someone has a solution.
I have not asked for advice here. I have been asking my local friends but everyone is kind of stumped. I will see if I can post a video on here and see what folks think. Someone did mention the possibility of ulcers. Going to check that out too. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | barrels1 - 2014-04-21 3:06 PM LRQHS - 2014-04-21 2:31 PM barrels1 - 2014-04-21 2:27 PM I have a gelding by First To Shine out of Jessies Arrangement by Mr Jess Perry. I love this horse and he has tons of personality and very easy to be around. However, I am really having an issue with him turning before the 2nd barrel though and I can't figure it out! I have been contemplating selling him but listening to all of you maybe I should hold out a bit longer and get this issue resolved. He did high lope a nice pattern a couple weeks ago in our "home pen" and clocked the bottom of the 2D with some really tough horses. I'm not a barrel trainer, but if that is his only issue, I'm pretty sure there's an easy fix for that. Did you ask advise for on here? I'll bet someone has a solution. I have not asked for advice here. I have been asking my local friends but everyone is kind of stumped. I will see if I can post a video on here and see what folks think. Someone did mention the possibility of ulcers. Going to check that out too.
But, just around the second barrel?? Hmmmm. I think we'll have some great suggestions. |
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Location: NE Texas | First things first, you need to get a complete lameness exam done with an equine specialist. Secondly, get his teeth checked by an equine dentist. Once you are certain your horse isn't in any kind of pain, then find someone to help you tune on him. Did he first start hitting the second barrel going in to him? Typically that's how most second barrel issues start is with the anticipation of the turn oth on yours and his parts. He starts turning too early and you start getting the second barrel consistently, so then you start trying to hold him off of it. The more you try to hold him off, the more he drops to turn because you lose all your forward momentum and he's likely dumping on his front end. Pretty soon you have a horse that won't even go across the pen. Without seeing the video or knowing you or the horse, that is my bet. I could be wayyyyyyyy off, but I see this problem time and time again. I just had some people drive in weekend before last with this exact problem to get some help. It's a vicious cycle we as riders get into in trying NOT to hit barrels. We develop bad habits, our horses develop bad habits, and bad goes to worse. Don't give up on him just yet. Chances are ya'll just have some bad habits you both need to over come!
Good luck with your gelding and i'd be happy to help you in any way I can!
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Location: Texas | Herbie - 2014-04-21 3:21 PM First things first, you need to get a complete lameness exam done with an equine specialist. Secondly, get his teeth checked by an equine dentist. Once you are certain your horse isn't in any kind of pain, then find someone to help you tune on him. Did he first start hitting the second barrel going in to him? Typically that's how most second barrel issues start is with the anticipation of the turn oth on yours and his parts. He starts turning too early and you start getting the second barrel consistently, so then you start trying to hold him off of it. The more you try to hold him off, the more he drops to turn because you lose all your forward momentum and he's likely dumping on his front end. Pretty soon you have a horse that won't even go across the pen. Without seeing the video or knowing you or the horse, that is my bet. I could be wayyyyyyyy off, but I see this problem time and time again. I just had some people drive in weekend before last with this exact problem to get some help. It's a vicious cycle we as riders get into in trying NOT to hit barrels. We develop bad habits, our horses develop bad habits, and bad goes to worse. Don't give up on him just yet. Chances are ya'll just have some bad habits you both need to over come!
Good luck with your gelding and i'd be happy to help you in any way I can!
We have gone over this horse with a fine toothed comb and fixed many things. He is not a barrel hitter at all. I think he has hit one since we have started. I do believe his issue started from soreness but he feels AWESOME now and I know it is not a soreness. Ulcers are the only other thing I have not investigated. It seems to be the stress of the run. He can do this in a run and immediately go to a practice pen and lay down a beautiful run with no indication of trying to go to the wrong side. He will finish his first and be lined up perfectly for the 2nd and will all of a sudden try his hardest to get to the wrong side. Then the funny part, he doesn't try to go out the pen. No, he turns a beautiful circle and heads to the 3rd...just not around the barrel. I don't want to hijack this post but I will try to load a video so you can see what I am talking about.   |
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Location: California | BARRELHORSE USA - 2014-04-19 1:31 PM
FIRST TO SHINE is always an added plus to your broodmares or babies.
Dashin Alabama is out of a daughter of FTS and crossed with my stallion has fantastic conformationed babies that are easy to train .....
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/dashin+Alabama
With the indepth barrel bloodlines and speed from the Mr Jess Perry and FTS lines these babies should be dynamite barrel smokers ... all 3 of her foals are full brothers and I am breeding her back the same way .. they are that good!! COUGARS SLING SHOT ...
http://www.allbreedpedigree.com/cougars+sling+shot
That mare looks bad, she needs some groceries.... |
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