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How to determine the price of an unbroke 2 year old?
gogetemtiger
Reg. Apr 2014
Posted 2014-04-19 9:56 AM
Subject: How to determine the price of an unbroke 2 year old?


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What are some things you look for in deciding a price for an unbroke two year old? Do you generally up the price from what you originally paid for the horse?
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equussynergy
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2014-04-19 9:59 AM
Subject: RE: How to determine the price of an unbroke 2 year old?



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Pedigree and what they do know.

I'd expect an untouched 2yr old to cost a lot less than one that is halter broke and easy to handle.

 
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gogetemtiger
Reg. Apr 2014
Posted 2014-04-19 10:01 AM
Subject: RE: How to determine the price of an unbroke 2 year old?


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equussynergy - 2014-04-19 9:59 AM

Pedigree and what they do know.

I'd expect an untouched 2yr old to cost a lot less than one that is halter broke and easy to handle.

 

Say someone paid $1500, and the horse only knows the basics of groundwork and has a desirable pedigree. Would you sell it for $3500?
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RoaniePonie11
Reg. Jan 2011
Posted 2014-04-19 10:09 AM
Subject: RE: How to determine the price of an unbroke 2 year old?


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Desirable could mean lots of things. Personally, I wouldn't if it just had basic ground work. Personally, if the horse is 2 I expect lead, load, tie, BACK out of a trailer lol, bath, trim, saddle, basic ground work and desensitized to most- all every time things: water hose, boots, blanket, stuff being carried around... Ect. I know this is not everyone's opinion, it's mine. If the horse had a nice pedigree, conformation, mind and did all of those things I would hand the $$ right over
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SaraJean
Reg. Dec 2006
Posted 2014-04-19 10:20 AM
Subject: RE: How to determine the price of an unbroke 2 year old?


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IMO the price that was originally paid for him is irrelevant when it comes to pricing him now. I would look at what horses with similar breeding are priced at and use that as my starting point. Look at where he's at in training compared to them, how his conformation compares and take all that into consideration on where he should be priced. $3500 is more than I would spend on an unstarted prospect, but that's just me. There are plenty of people willing to pay that if the horse is what they are looking for.   
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BamaCanChaser
Reg. Nov 2012
Posted 2014-04-19 11:05 AM
Subject: RE: How to determine the price of an unbroke 2 year old?



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I agree that what they originally paid is completely irrelevant.

Honestly, when I'm looking at something that is unbroke all the other training, ground work, desensitizing they've had is irrelevant to their price to me. The only requirement I have is that they be halter broke, everything else is just extra that doesn't effect the price for me. The only thing that matters is pedigree and looks. Do the names on their papers justify that price and do they have the conformation and the nice movement I'm looking for?

If you have 2 identical 2 yo's both same price, papers, and looks but one has had ground work only then would I consider it as a factor in my decision. I'm not going to pay $2000 extra for something that will only take me about two weeks or less to accomplish (ie desensitizing, trailer loading, saddling, lunging, etc).
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sorrel horse ranch
Reg. Apr 2006
Posted 2014-04-19 11:17 AM
Subject: RE: How to determine the price of an unbroke 2 year old?


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SaraJean - 2014-04-19 10:20 AM IMO the price that was originally paid for him is irrelevant when it comes to pricing him now. I would look at what horses with similar breeding are priced at and use that as my starting point. Look at where he's at in training compared to them, how his conformation compares and take all that into consideration on where he should be priced. $3500 is more than I would spend on an unstarted prospect, but that's just me. There are plenty of people willing to pay that if the horse is what they are looking for.   

I am in total agreement with Sara Jean.  I see young horses here on BHW that are priced between $20,000 and $30,000 that just seems outrageous to me.  I can see where a few are worth but on the whole they are way overpriced in my opinion.
What you pay for a horse is irrelevent when pricing one definately. 
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Jenbabe
Reg. Jul 2006
Posted 2014-04-19 11:28 AM
Subject: RE: How to determine the price of an unbroke 2 year old?



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You have to price the horse at its current value. Take into consideration pedigree, conformation, etc. Previous purchase price really is no factor. As far as groundwork, I don't really care if they have it or not. And honestly, I'd rather buy one that hasn't been touched rather than one that has been handled incorrectly. Seems like every year we take in horses like that and it takes way more time to fix the issues than it would have taken for us to do it right the first time.

I think that putting even just a few rides on a 2 year old seems to generate more interest in the horse, and certainly does a lot to increase their value.
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bc3up
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2014-04-19 8:35 PM
Subject: RE: How to determine the price of an unbroke 2 year old?


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I have paid over 3500 for a weanling, why not a two year old? I actually don't mind if try are plain d halter broke, sometimes is nice if they have been a horse, I can do all the exta work, no problem!!
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equussynergy
Reg. Feb 2009
Posted 2014-04-19 8:48 PM
Subject: RE: How to determine the price of an unbroke 2 year old?



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bc3up - 2014-04-19 7:35 PM I have paid over 3500 for a weanling, why not a two year old? I actually don't mind if try are plain d halter broke, sometimes is nice if they have been a horse, I can do all the exta work, no problem!!
I'd pay $3500 for a weanling before I would a started two year old! At least then you start with a clean slate. if I'm buying a started prospect I pretty much have to know who rode it and it better be solid training. Now that i Splat instead of bounce I'm alot more picky!
 

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Hollywoods Fan
Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-04-20 9:35 AM
Subject: RE: How to determine the price of an unbroke 2 year old?



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First - What a person pays for a horse has no bearing on what the horse might be worth.  I see this both ways. I see people who paid too much and then they price the horse to get all their money back and wonder why no one is interested.  If someone gets a good buy on a horse and decides to sell it - the price they paid for it is irrelavant.  You need to price where the market is.

When you are talking about a two year old, that price is going to be determined by the horse's bloodlines and how much it has been handled/broke at this point.  Looks color/conformation are also a factor in pricing.  So, I would compare all of those things in the horse you are trying to sell, to others on the market who are for sale.  That is how you would determine the price of your colt.
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barrelracr131
Reg. Aug 2011
Posted 2014-04-20 9:41 AM
Subject: RE: How to determine the price of an unbroke 2 year old?


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Yup

papers/bloodlines
conformation
suitablity
audience
color

this are the things I would look at when pricing an unbroke prospect. I by no means sell horses though.  this is just my uneducated thinking :-D
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