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Location: Flat Rock,IL | Our teacher in sunday school said he did not belive that this boy did go into heaven, but some were saying that he knew to much that he had never know before. I'm wanting to go see this movie, but don't want to be mislead either. In the bible says in John 3:13 that know one has gone up to heaven except the one that came from heaven-son of man. In acts 2:17-21 it says 17 “‘In the last days, God says,
I will pour out my Spirit on all people.
Your sons and daughters will prophesy,
your young men will see visions,
your old men will dream dreams.
18 Even on my servants, both men and women,
I will pour out my Spirit in those days,
and they will prophesy.
19 I will show wonders in the heavens above
and signs on the earth below,
blood and fire and billows of smoke.
20 The sun will be turned to darkness
and the moon to blood
before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord.
21 And everyone who calls
on the name of the Lord will be saved. So maybe this is true, on what this little boy did see.
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | Just because the boy described things that don't fit with someone else's interpretation of the Bible doesn't invalidate his experience. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | It was a rainy rainy day saturday so my husband and I went to see it. We really enjoyed it. The other movie we want to see is Gods Not Dead. We probably missed that one when it came to town so we'll probably have to wait untill it's on pay per view or redbox. |
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| I think you would be better served in reading the book.
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Location: Kentucky | Three 4 Luck - 2014-04-28 1:14 PM
Just because the boy described things that don't fit with someone else's interpretation of the Bible doesn't invalidate his experience.
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Location: So. California | God provides miracles every day, whom are we to judge or discount those miracles? It doesn't matter whether or not I believe this little boy saw heaven, it only matters what HE believes as it is between him and God.
I will say, it is one of the best movies I've seen in a long time and it certainly reaffirms my beliefs. I highly recommend seeing the movie with an open mind and understanding that with God all things are possible. |
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Location: North Dakota | Read the book! The things the child said to his parents were amazing. The movie doesn't cover it so well. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | If I'm not mistaken in Revelations I believe there are passages where John is taken up into heaven and shown things about the last days. Its been a while but I read the book. My thinking is this.....Just because the Bible stopped at Revelations doesn't mean that God stopped showing people who He is and what He has done and what He is going to do. He is still at work in a lot of different ways. There is too much that we don't know about consciousness. We also can not prove what happens when we die either. I think in the end, its something you choose to take on faith or not. Whether or not you believe the movie, the good that comes out of it is how it makes you ask those tough questions in life and it makes you think about how precious life is. |
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| The book gave me goosebumps so many times - It really is a faith affirmation, I think.
I also agree ... just because the Bible "stopped" at Revelations, doesn't mean that God isn't still working through people and circumstances. I know He is sure present in my life - no miracles, but DANG can I see some things in which His hand sure has helped me out! |
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | Fairweather - 2014-04-28 12:32 PM
If I'm not mistaken in Revelations I believe there are passages where John is taken up into heaven and shown things about the last days. Its been a while but I read the book. My thinking is this.....Just because the Bible stopped at Revelations doesn't mean that God stopped showing people who He is and what He has done and what He is going to do. He is still at work in a lot of different ways. There is too much that we don't know about consciousness. We also can not prove what happens when we die either. I think in the end, its something you choose to take on faith or not. Whether or not you believe the movie, the good that comes out of it is how it makes you ask those tough questions in life and it makes you think about how precious life is.
I was also thinking this too. I went to see "God's not Dead", I really liked this movie. |
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | Fairweather - 2014-04-28 12:32 PM
If I'm not mistaken in Revelations I believe there are passages where John is taken up into heaven and shown things about the last days. Its been a while but I read the book. My thinking is this.....Just because the Bible stopped at Revelations doesn't mean that God stopped showing people who He is and what He has done and what He is going to do. He is still at work in a lot of different ways. There is too much that we don't know about consciousness. We also can not prove what happens when we die either. I think in the end, its something you choose to take on faith or not. Whether or not you believe the movie, the good that comes out of it is how it makes you ask those tough questions in life and it makes you think about how precious life is.
The Throne in Heaven
1 After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” 2 At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it. 3 And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and ruby. A rainbow that shone like an emerald encircled the throne. (Revelation 4:1-3) |
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| kmcsunshine - 2014-04-28 7:03 PM I won't read it because it goes against what is written in THE book.......
I don't know that much about the book or the movie BUT how do you know it goes against THE book if you haven't read it for yourself? Just curious.
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | runs4fun - 2014-04-28 6:41 PM
kmcsunshine - 2014-04-28 7:03 PM I won't read it because it goes against what is written in THE book.......
I don't know that much about the book or the movie BUT how do you know it goes against THE book if you haven't read it for yourself? Just curious.
runs4fun, has a good point kmcsunshine. |
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Location: Somewhere between S@%&# stirrer and Saint | I wnat to comment but don't have time. Need to do a little research first. |
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | Kcaughran - 2014-04-28 2:06 PM Fairweather - 2014-04-28 12:32 PM If I'm not mistaken in Revelations I believe there are passages where John is taken up into heaven and shown things about the last days. Its been a while but I read the book. My thinking is this.....Just because the Bible stopped at Revelations doesn't mean that God stopped showing people who He is and what He has done and what He is going to do. He is still at work in a lot of different ways. There is too much that we don't know about consciousness. We also can not prove what happens when we die either. I think in the end, its something you choose to take on faith or not. Whether or not you believe the movie, the good that comes out of it is how it makes you ask those tough questions in life and it makes you think about how precious life is. The Throne in Heaven 1 After this I looked, and there before me was a door standing open in heaven. And the voice I had first heard speaking to me like a trumpet said, “Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after this.” 2 At once I was in the Spirit, and there before me was a throne in heaven with someone sitting on it. 3 And the one who sat there had the appearance of jasper and ruby. A rainbow that shone like an emerald encircled the throne. (Revelation 4:1-3 )
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Location: East Tennessee but who knows?! | kmcsunshine - 2014-04-28 6:03 PM I won't read it because it goes against what is written in THE book.......
Can you give specific examples and verses? |
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| I am glad we are having this discussion. Hope fully that people will see this movie and we can put some religion back in this country and the schools, when i was a kid i actually did a fair amount of religious stuff, and i am a good person. |
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | daisycake123 - 2014-04-28 8:15 PM
I am glad we are having this discussion. Hope fully that people will see this movie and we can put some religion back in this country and the schools, when i was a kid i actually did a fair amount of religious stuff, and i am a good person.
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Location: East Texas | Don't put God in a box. I figure He can use anybody or any situation to reveal things to us. If He used this little boy to encourage someone who has doubts that heaven actually exists and teaches us about His love for us, I personally love it!! |
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| Unfortunately, I've been present during the passing of several people. It's hard to argue with the fact that some people during the death process "see" things and people. My stepfather, for instance, kept saying, "pull me up", at first we thought he wanted us to prop him up better on the bed pillows until I finally realized that he was literally looking right past us as he said it and up at something or someone...he just kept saying, "pull me up". My sister talked of seeing Jesus among other people, she would say, "I see Him but I can't make out what it says on his robe." She was kind of muttering this under her breath, her eyes weren't open but it was clear that she was "seeing" someone, all this about 48 hours before her actual passing from this earth. My mother, didn't say anything but she watched something intently. She followed something from one side of the ceiling in the room to the other side before she closed her eyes for good. I certainly can't say what she was watching but I felt like it was angels or family members gone before. |
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | horsesinharleton - 2014-04-28 8:20 PM
Don't put God in a box. I figure He can use anybody or any situation to reveal things to us. If He used this little boy to encourage someone who has doubts that heaven actually exists and teaches us about His love for us, I personally love it!!
Some are saying that we don't need a moive to tell us he is real, because we have God's word. I like this scene in "God's not Dead", where the student goes to the chruch to pray how and what way to do this, then the pastor ask him if he could help,said that this maybe the only time that these students get any word of God. |
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | runs4fun - 2014-04-28 8:25 PM
Unfortunately, I've been present during the passing of several people. It's hard to argue with the fact that some people during the death process "see" things and people. My stepfather, for instance, kept saying, "pull me up", at first we thought he wanted us to prop him up better on the bed pillows until I finally realized that he was literally looking right past us as he said it and up at something or someone...he just kept saying, "pull me up". My sister talked of seeing Jesus among other people, she would say, "I see Him but I can't make out what it says on his robe." She was kind of muttering this under her breath, her eyes weren't open but it was clear that she was "seeing" someone, all this about 48 hours before her actual passing from this earth. My mother, didn't say anything but she watched something intently. She followed something from one side of the ceiling in the room to the other side before she closed her eyes for good. I certainly can't say what she was watching but I felt like it was angels or family members gone before.
The last days before my dad died, he was asking why, are all these people in my room. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | This is the incredable young artist prodege refered to shortly in the movie. She painted the pic the boy recognized as Jesus. It's an incredably moving story! This girl, has had NO art lessons or teachings what so ever. Absolutelly incredable. Hear her story.
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | My sweet grandmother passed while in the hospital...there was a no resuscitation order but the nusrse did it anyhow. The next morning my then 13 yr old son told me of a life-like dream he had where grandma walked into this room where we all were, including people he didn't know...and she was smiling & so happy, not crippled with RA...& she was with a man who looked so very kind...she said she just came to say goodbye! It was abut 30 minutes later that my mother called to say that she had passed in the night & been resuscitated...for several days she was so upset & sad that that 'nice man' might be mad because she was supposed to go with him. Once she gained more of her 'earthly' senses she was just sad but wouldn't speak of it...like it was her secret. She passed quietly 2 months later but it sure left us with some wonder.
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | ThreeCorners - 2014-04-28 8:55 PM
This is the incredable young artist prodege refered to shortly in the movie. She painted the pic the boy recognized as Jesus. It's an incredably moving story! This girl, has had NO art lessons or teachings what so ever. Absolutelly incredable. Hear her story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6HLg2XUFOg
Those are beautiful paintings! and her parents are atheist too, That right there is God speaking, I'm the real true God. |
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Location: Texas | runs4fun - 2014-04-28 8:25 PM Unfortunately, I've been present during the passing of several people. It's hard to argue with the fact that some people during the death process "see" things and people. My stepfather, for instance, kept saying, "pull me up", at first we thought he wanted us to prop him up better on the bed pillows until I finally realized that he was literally looking right past us as he said it and up at something or someone...he just kept saying, "pull me up". My sister talked of seeing Jesus among other people, she would say, "I see Him but I can't make out what it says on his robe." She was kind of muttering this under her breath, her eyes weren't open but it was clear that she was "seeing" someone, all this about 48 hours before her actual passing from this earth. My mother, didn't say anything but she watched something intently. She followed something from one side of the ceiling in the room to the other side before she closed her eyes for good. I certainly can't say what she was watching but I felt like it was angels or family members gone before.
My MIL's dad passed last October and right before he kept saying "It's so beautiful!" |
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | Douglas J Gordon - 2014-04-28 7:26 PM
I wnat to comment but don't have time. Need to do a little research first.
Find anything yet? |
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Location: In a happy place | I had heard that when Steve Jobs died he said "Oh Wow", Oh Wow, Oh Wow. Must have been beautiful. |
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | How about the "Harbinger" the book. I'm interested in this too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcsv4t9SzTg |
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Location: where the wind blows | kmcsunshine - 2014-04-28 5:03 PM I won't read it because it goes against what is written in THE book.......
I guess my thought is if reading this book or watching this movie brings even one person to a place of faith and belief in God then isn't that a good thing. Just a thought. And with all the horrible stuff in movie theatres these days something portraying some good is also a good thing. |
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Location: where the wind blows | ThreeCorners - 2014-04-28 7:55 PM This is the incredable young artist prodege refered to shortly in the movie. She painted the pic the boy recognized as Jesus. It's an incredably moving story! This girl, has had NO art lessons or teachings what so ever. Absolutelly incredable. Hear her story.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6HLg2XUFOg
Wow. Incredible story and paintings. Thanks for sharing. |
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Was talking about Heaven is for real the movie at chruch yesterday.