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Location: The stix of Utah | I got in to a bit of an argument with my farrier (he is an old friend) the last time he was out and I'm curious what you all do. Do you pay the same price or a discounted price for a re-set and why? Do any of you refuse a re-set and why?
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Location: Lala Land | Same...and I think it's bs, but it's hard enough to find a good shoer so I never said anything. |
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 I Chore in Chucks
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Location: MD | if I'm paying the same as someone getting new shoes, i better be getting new ones too. I don't care. charge me less or give me new ones. |
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Location: North Dakota | Personally, I reallly don't care if my farrier uses the same shoes. I'm not too hard on them so they usually hold up pretty well. I really, really value my farrier because he's good so I don't mind paying him the "same" even if I am not getting new shoes. I usually tip him anyway.
Last year, my horse pulled or bent A LOT of shoes. For all of those in-between visits (sometimes putting on a new shoe and a new pad) he never charged me. Again, just another reason I am happy to pay the same price for a reset, because I know he's going to take care of my horse for the in-between "emergency" stuff.
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| Before my husband, our farrier discounted for his cost of the shoes. He said since he was not using new stock he couldn't morally charge someone for shoes he wasn't putting on. |
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Location: ohio-in my own little world with pretty ponies :) | I pay less for a reset. If I'm paying the same as someone that's getting new ones then I want new ones. Luckily I have an amazing farrier and he is pretty dang cheap! |
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Location: In Ky following Barrel Races & Walker hounds. | Its usually cheaper around here but I dont reset usually unless Im not riding much. |
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Location: Keeping up with the numbers! | I am in Texas and I pay the same for a re-set as I would a new set. It frustrates my husband, but I have learned it is harder to find a good farrier then to question a price difference. I will add that I will only let him re-set every other time. We ride daily and compete weekly and they are worn by the end of the re-set.
Edited by BeanCounter 2014-05-01 3:03 PM
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | reset is usually 130 so 20 bucks cheaper than a new set.........
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Location: High heels in the air... | I pay the same and it doesn't bother me at all. You're paying for someone's skills not shoes!!! |
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| I pay the same. But he does an outstanding job EVERY time and he drives over an hour to get to my house. And I never have to hunt him down when my horses r due he hunts me down!! Lol!! It's hard to find them like that and that really do a good job, so I don't mind!! Plus if he ever has to do a little corrective shoeing here or there he doesn't ever charge me extra, and if I pull one he will put it back on no charge, but only had two pulled shoes in the last two years and they were both due anyway, so thats worth it right there! |
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 Living within my means
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Location: Randolph, Utah | I always get new shoes so it's the same price. My old shoer didnt keep the shoes I wanted in stock so id buy them and he'd charge me $10 less a set. Which is what the shoes cost me so I didn't really save anything. |
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 Lived to tell about it and will never do it again
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| We pay $65 no matter new or re-set. Have an awesome shoer that is also a great friend. He knows to just come out every 7 or 8 weeks so I don't have to worry about it. He keeps our 5 head going and always comes out for free if we have a problem. I'm going to be lost when he retires!!!!! |
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  Angel in a Sorrel Coat
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Location: In a happy place | CowboyUp!!! - 2014-05-01 3:36 PM I pay the same and it doesn't bother me at all. You're paying for someone's skills not shoes!!!
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Location: Southeast Louisiana | I pay less if he re-sets. It's only the cost of the shoes that he takes off, which isn't much. Most of what I'm paying for is his work. |
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Location: Northern CA | A reset is really not that much less work. It can actually be more work is the shoes are tweaked, the nails have to be removed and it was to be somewhat cleaned up before it can be reapplied. Sure you save the cost of the shoes, maybe $10 for keg shoes?! You still have the labor, nails cost, etc. |
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Location: Montana | CowboyUp!!! - 2014-05-01 2:36 PM I pay the same and it doesn't bother me at all. You're paying for someone's skills not shoes!!!
AGREE!!! Essentially they are doing the same amount of work as if new shoes.
The cost of shoes is a low expense. Labor is always more expensive than parts. |
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Location: The stix of Utah | CowboyUp!!! - 2014-05-01 2:36 PM
I pay the same and it doesn't bother me at all. You're paying for someone's skills not shoes!!!
I agree with this to a point. I get that he is still working hard and earning most of the cost, but if he is re-setting the shoes he isn't doing all of the same work that he would be doing with a full set. I have no problem paying him for all of his hard work, but I don't want to be paying for work that isn't being done.
Not to mention we bend over backward to work with him. I always provide food and water/soda and I tip him at least $25 sometimes more. Not to mention we pay him in cash to help him out at the end of the year.
It is really hard to find a great, dependable farrier around here, so I will keep my mouth shut, it just really upsets me. Not to mention, I have told him I do not want them ever re-set and since he only comes out when my husband is the only one home, he re-sets every other appointment against my wishes. I think that is what really torques my hide. |
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| Ours has always broken down the cost as a "trim" and then he charges separate for the shoes. So it is always cheaper for a reset. |
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 There Could Be Aliens Out There
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Location: North Central Kansas | My shoes charges the same for new shoes or resets. So I always tell him to put new ones on. |
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| CowboyUp!!! - 2014-05-01 3:36 PM
I pay the same and it doesn't bother me at all. You're paying for someone's skills not shoes!!!
This!!! I pay $120/set. My farrier is good. I can get a pulled shoe put back on within 24 hours. I am not going to gripe about the cost of $15 shoes. I take good care of him and he takes great care of my horses. |
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Location: where ever my L/Q trl is parked | When I lived in California -every 6 to 8 weeks my horse got brand new set of shoes for $75, my shoer never reset unless one had come off. Now in Texas every 6 to 8 weeks my shoer here resets for $90 as long as they aren't thin then the horse gets a new pair. It took me a long time to get use to this- I feel paying that amount I should get a new pair each time, but none of the farriers here in Tx do that, or I should get a discount for resetting the old shoes.
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Location: South MS | I pay $100 every 5 weeks for shoeing - sometimes he will reset a shoe if its not wore out but I usually wear them out and have to get new shoes every 5 weeks
If I lose a shoe during my 5 week period he replaces for free |
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I AM being nice
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Location: MD | I rarely have one reset, but that is totally up to my farrier. He does what needs to be done to keep my horses working well. I normally pay the same price, either way. I get little breaks here and there, for one reason, or another. I also always make sure his sorry behind has water/soda/food before I send him on his way. lol |
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Location: Pacific Northwest | Mine almost never get reset (my farrier is who decides this) but when they do it's usually about $10 cheaper. I don't really care either way as long as my horses have shoes on. I can see why you would want a discount, because you're not paying for new shoes, but for me the $10 here and there doesn't really make a difference. Of my 5 horses, maybe one of them will get reset every other shoeing so it's not really something I've thought about. |
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The Resident Destroyer of Liberal Logic
Location: PNW | I pay $120 be it reset or new shoes. My farrier is AMAZING. He is patient with goofy colts, he comes out whenever my one gelding throws a shoe with no complaint and replaces it FOR FREE, and he spends 15 minutes trimming my son's pony whenever he comes down to my horses and doesn't charge for the trim. He's available by phone anytime - I don't have to hunt him down for days trying to make an appointment, he's as punctual as a horseshoer can possibly be, and RARELY reschedules.
I'm sure as heck not going to haggle $15 worth of shoes. I'm paying for his time, skills, gas, and wear and tear on his vehicle. He drives to the boonies to see my horses and takes EXCEPTIONAL care of them. |
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Fire Ant Peddler
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| My farrier charges more to reset because he isn't going to do it. I haven't had mine reset in YEARS. |
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| Holy poop!! you guys pay over 100 for shoeing!?!?!?! Mine is 55 for new set and 45 for reset!! I think i'd be going barefoot if it was that high!! only $25 for a trimming!! |
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| I do not like resets, I will not allow it, I want new shoes on my horses every time. UNLESS one comes off, that's the only exception. For what I'm paying I expect new shoes, it's the principal of it. I don't want nails going through a rusty looking shoe into my horses foot. .. especially when they've been walking around in poop and pee, then a nail goes through that into your horses foot, if its re heated AND sanded fine that's a start... but it's still not going to be as level as a new shoe. People are too trusting of their farriers, you have to think for yourself and what you want for your horse. Who cares what they want they don't own him, or fee him, sure as he!! didn't pay for him, don't have to ride him, ..you get it.. chances are when they leave they could care less. Sorry for the rant guys...
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| Kgirl - 2014-05-02 6:40 AM
Holy poop!! you guys pay over 100 for shoeing!?!?!?! Mine is 55 for new set and 45 for reset!! I think i'd be going barefoot if it was that high!! only $25 for a trimming!!
I was thinking the same thing but mine still isn't as cheap as 55 we pay $70 a head for full sets, and $25 for trim. If we have over 10 to do he'll do it for $65 a head. |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | The only time my farrier does a re-set is if my horses manage to pull a shoe early into the fresh shoeing, say 1-2 weeks out. Anything later and its new shoes. If he does have to re-set it he doesn't charge me anything. Figures his clinches should last longer than that. I have big horses, we have hard rocky ground for the most part so re-sets aren't really much of an option for us anyway.
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| SwishMiss - 2014-05-02 10:18 AM I do not like resets, I will not allow it, I want new shoes on my horses every time. UNLESS one comes off, that's the only exception. For what I'm paying I expect new shoes, it's the principal of it. I don't want nails going through a rusty looking shoe into my horses foot. .. especially when they've been walking around in poop and pee, then a nail goes through that into your horses foot, if its re heated AND sanded fine that's a start... but it's still not going to be as level as a new shoe. People are too trusting of their farriers, you have to think for yourself and what you want for your horse. Who cares what they want they don't own him, or fee him, sure as he!! didn't pay for him, don't have to ride him, ..you get it.. chances are when they leave they could care less. Sorry for the rant guys...
Wow.....my SO is a farrier, and I can tell you, this is the furthest thing from the truth! He will often be sitting watching TV and thinking about a clients horse, and what he can do different to help the horse. He doesn't just take the money and run. While farriers make decent money, it is a very demanding job, and any farrier that does it for the money, and not for the horse, won't be any good and won't do it for long!
As for resetting, the nails are new, and the nails are not going through the live part of the foot (white line), they are going through the hoof wall.
To the original topic.....he charges less for a reset, the cost of the shoes I think, since he doesn't have to supply new ones. |
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| weder - 2014-05-02 9:59 AM
SwishMiss - 2014-05-02 10:18 AM I do not like resets, I will not allow it, I want new shoes on my horses every time. UNLESS one comes off, that's the only exception. For what I'm paying I expect new shoes, it's the principal of it. I don't want nails going through a rusty looking shoe into my horses foot. .. especially when they've been walking around in poop and pee, then a nail goes through that into your horses foot, if its re heated AND sanded fine that's a start... but it's still not going to be as level as a new shoe. People are too trusting of their farriers, you have to think for yourself and what you want for your horse. Who cares what they want they don't own him, or fee him, sure as he!! didn't pay for him, don't have to ride him, ..you get it.. chances are when they leave they could care less. Sorry for the rant guys...
Wow.....my SO is a farrier, and I can tell you, this is the furthest thing from the truth! He will often be sitting watching TV and thinking about a clients horse, and what he can do different to help the horse. He doesn't just take the money and run. While farriers make decent money, it is a very demanding job, and any farrier that does it for the money, and not for the horse, won't be any good and won't do it for long!
As for resetting, the nails are new, and the nails are not going through the live part of the foot (white line), they are going through the hoof wall.
To the original topic.....he charges less for a reset, the cost of the shoes I think, since he doesn't have to supply new ones.
That's good for your husbands clients, wasn't trying to make it personal just throwing it out there as a generalization. There are more so so backyard shoers than there are great ones, or performance shoers... that's a fact jack. A number of us have been through more than one shoer at some given time. And yes it's SUPPOSED to go through the dead part, however a hot nail is not uncommon. Just like if you have clips on the back and a side comes off and jabs the bottom of your horse's foot, on the dead part and gets poop and pee in there... you have an abscess. |
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Location: Okla | euchee - 2014-05-01 3:53 PM We pay $65 no matter new or re-set. Have an awesome shoer that is also a great friend. He knows to just come out every 7 or 8 weeks so I don't have to worry about it. He keeps our 5 head going and always comes out for free if we have a problem. I'm going to be lost when he retires!!!!!
That's what I pay too. Doesn't matter if its a reset or new. I've use the same guy for 30 yrs. I will be lost without him. Couldn't have asked for a better farrier, always been here when scheduled. Calls and lets you know if he's running late. Only had to replace one shoe in all these years and he made a special trip to do that and didn't charge me. |
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| A reset costs the same as a showing minis the cost of a shoes, so it varies depend on on if they are keg shoes, clips or completely hand forged.
Our farrier usualy heats the shoe even if it is a reset, reshaped and shoes hot. |
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 You get what you give
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Location: Texas | sorrel horse ranch - 2014-05-01 4:00 PM
CowboyUp!!! - 2014-05-01 3:36 PM I pay the same and it doesn't bother me at all. You're paying for someone's skills not shoes!!!
Absolutely.
I pay the same. My horses' feet look great, they are sound, and it's my farrier's choice if he wants to use new shoes or reuse old ones.
I love my farrier. He has come out to races to tack on a thrown shoe and won't charge me a dime for that kind of stuff. I trust his judgment and he has never done me wrong with the shoeing. It will be a sad day when he retires. |
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Location: The stix of Utah | Thank you all for the feedback! You all make great points. I guess I just need to talk with him and let him know that I don't want re-sets and that he needs to respect my wishes. I feel we have a good enough relationship that I can do that. He really is a great farrier and in all my years using him I can't even think of a single time I have lost a shoe. I appreciate him, I need to remind him of that as well. Thanks again! |
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Cost of a re-set???