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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | I know we have very hard water at our house here in Missouri. You can see it, feel it, etc. The kind of hard water that leaves a film on everything....but it certainly is delicious to drink......
Anyways.....shortly after we moved in we purchased a new samsung dishwasher. Retail price tag on it was between 6-700. We got it on sale for around 450 or so.
Anyways, it's HORRIBLE about getting dishes clean! We have even used the oxy stuff for hard water, and run a cleaner for just the dishwasher often.
Anyone know if we just got jipped on the dishwasher or if it's really from the hard water? I've gone back to washing all our dishes by hand and using the dishwasher as a drying rack because it's aggravates me so bad.
I want to get a water softener for our house but right now can't afford it, and also the water for the horses comes from the house and we wanted to run new lines before we got a softener..... |
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| I have the really hard water too. The hard water is clogging it up. CLR will help unclog it. My neighbor is a small appliance repair man and he says to run vinegar through it once a week. It really helps mine.
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | barrelnut - 2014-05-12 9:44 AM I have the really hard water too. The hard water is clogging it up. CLR will help unclog it. My neighbor is a small appliance repair man and he says to run vinegar through it once a week. It really helps mine.
We use CLR, but not vineager. I could use that when I clean it I guess. Once a week we put the lil bottle of cleaner in there with no dishes and run a cycle. It's jsut frustrating...... |
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| The calcium builds up in the parts that spins around. If you can take them off, shake them and it sounds like rocks in there. When the dishwasher runs, these calcium rocks blocks the holes where the water comes out. You might try to put the CLR in a syringe and shoot it in these parts and let it sit for a while to dissolve the calcium. The dishwasher will not work right if you have the calcium built up in there. |
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Location: I can see the end of the world from here! | I feel your pain...I pour vinegar in every wash AND I use the jet clean stuff, too...at least the glasses are no longer cloudy. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Thanks guys. So you all think it's most likely the hard water? We don't run the dishwasher often, maybe once a week, and I know when you have hard water, letting it sit is BAD.
I'm wondering if it's best for me to just hand wash dishes until we get a softener? We will be selling this house in two years or so and I would hate to tear up appliances before then. We purchased the fridge and dishwasher since we moved in, and do plan on leaving them and purchasing a new stove when we sell. Maybe......because I am in love with my fridge..... |
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| Lemishine is the absolute best. I use it along with cascade complete(dry). We have horrible jip water |
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Location: Cap'n Joan Rotgut.....alberta | i had to get rid of ours.....was a pita..........lol
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Location: South Georgia | Have you tried different dishwasher detergents? How do you know its just not the detergent you are using? I really like the Finish tablets. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | horsegirl - 2014-05-12 11:50 AM Have you tried different dishwasher detergents? How do you know its just not the detergent you are using? I really like the Finish tablets.
Yes we have, about four different kinds. Regular cascade, the newer cascade, the finish stuff, and the oxy. We have the oxy in the dry rinse but we also tried the actual oxy soap.
I have been using the lil packets, should I try the gel or a powder or anything else? Why doesn't Dawn make some good dishwasher stuff? Or do they and I just dont know it |
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Location: South Georgia | Hmm, well...I'd try every type of detergent before I bought a new dishwasher, I guess. lol If the cloudiness is really set-on, maybe it will take a couple weeks for the new detergent to rid the glassware of the plaque it has accumulated. I dont know. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | horsegirl - 2014-05-12 12:06 PM Hmm, well...I'd try every type of detergent before I bought a new dishwasher, I guess. lol If the cloudiness is really set-on, maybe it will take a couple weeks for the new detergent to rid the glassware of the plaque it has accumulated. I dont know.
This one is new. And the dishes aren't cloudy from the hard water, because of the stuff we are using, it just seems like they aren't getting clean, not all of them, just some of them. I moved the cups to the bottom rack and that is helping. |
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Location: South Georgia | That really is strange. Can you search for that model on any commercial sites such as amazon or whatever to read the reviews? Maybe an email to the manufacturer would help somehow? |
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| We have the same dishwasher and very hard water too. Having the jet dry/ rinse aid turned all the way up helped, there is a product called glisten that we add in with the detergent which helps. The only thing that made th film (mostly) disappear is turning the water softener to run every to days. You may be out of luck until you get one installed.
We hate our samsung! We never had this problem with the old dishwasher and wish we hadn't replaced it. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | How old is the dish washer? I have well water thats hard, I use Lemi-Shine along with Cascade, this is the only way to get my dishes clean, and Jet dry. My dish washer is really old but still does a great job, its got to be going on at least 15 to 18 years old. Its almost time for a new one but this one is still working great 
Sounds like the dish washer you got might not be a good working one. I have a Frigidaire. |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | It's not even a year old yet..... |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | missroselee - 2014-05-12 11:45 AM It's not even a year old yet.....
I think theres something wrong with that dishwasher then, call the place where you bought it and tell them how its not doing its job. |
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Location: Argyle, NY | We have really hard water too - I put a little white vinegar in each load I run - seems to help with spots too - good luck! |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Is you'ur warranty still good on your dishwasher? If so take it back. |
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Location: Nowhere Special | I had to do this with mine.. Take the shelves out and unscrew the spray bars and the matt under the one on the bottom if you can, soak it all in pure vinegar several times, rinse with hot water, scrup the inside of dishwasher with vinegar and hot water.. and SCRUB the sprayers and matt making sure to open up all the little holes again.. Once you got all that done put it all back together and run it about a dozen times empty with nothing but vinegar in it everytime.. Just dump it in the bottom and don't be chincy with it go get several gallons of vinegar and use it up.. Once you have it all cleaned out dump a little vinegar in EVERYTIME you run it with the dishes.. My dishwasher went from "are these things even clean" which they were not to see yourself in the reflection of your cups and dishwasher door.. I have very hard water and no softner vinegar takes care of all of it way better then the clr or dishwasher cleaners (cause I tried them all first) and I am OCD so you know it works. LOL |
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Location: Texas | Lemishine!!! It works great with hard water... it's by the detergent at the grocery store. |
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| I too have hard water... and I pour 5 cups of vinegar and use 3 tablets the one with the red ball in the middle cant remember the name and my dishes come out clean the trick is lots of vinegar!! Good thing its cheap. |
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Location: Here | Amazon.com Bubble bandit Or professiona strength cascade Both have phosphorus and work I like bubble bandit the best I am on my first sack and we wash once a day and this sack is about 2.5 months old |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | Thanks guys. I'm going to try the vineager. |
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Location: oklahoma | SG. - 2014-05-12 6:44 PM Amazon.com Bubble bandit Or professiona strength cascade Both have phosphorus and work I like bubble bandit the best I am on my first sack and we wash once a day and this sack is about 2.5 months old
Vinegar is a great cleaner for most everything . When we were stationed overseas, that's what the German and Italian women used almost exclusively. I'd clean it real good and use bubble bandits everyday after. I'm glad s.g. told us about it. I ordered it from amazon prime. |
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| fifteenflat - 2014-05-12 5:24 PM
Lemishine!!! It works great with hard water... it's by the detergent at the grocery store.
Lemons home for sure!! It really does work great!! And we have horrible water with lots and lots of calcium that stops up holes and leaves a nasty film all over everything!! I even use it to just clean things like my shower head faucets etc. good luck!! |
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Location: Here | CurlyQ - 2014-05-12 8:52 PM SG. - 2014-05-12 6:44 PM Amazon.com Bubble bandit Or professiona strength cascade Both have phosphorus and work I like bubble bandit the best I am on my first sack and we wash once a day and this sack is about 2.5 months old Vinegar is a great cleaner for most everything . When we were stationed overseas, that's what the German and Italian women used almost exclusively. I'd clean it real good and use bubble bandits everyday after. I'm glad s.g. told us about it. I ordered it from amazon prime.
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Location: Lala Land | We have really hard water also, I got the lemishine and it worked, but took the writing off my measuring cups! We bought an inexpensive softener from Lowes and don't have any trouble now.
My husband also says the detergent in the pouches do not completely disolve, he's always getting calls about dishwashers not draining and 99% of the time it's build up from those.
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Location: Central Florida | I was just having this issue with my dishwasher. My co-worker recommended the Cascade Platinum and the Jet Dry Booster. I ran the dishwasher first with nothing in it and placed a cup of white vinegar in the bottom to clean out any existing gunk. Using the cascade platinum has made a huge difference. Say bye bye to any left on crusty food and grossness. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | missroselee - 2014-05-12 8:26 AM
I know we have very hard water at our house here in Missouri. You can see it, feel it, etc. The kind of hard water that leaves a film on everything....but it certainly is delicious to drink......
Anyways.....shortly after we moved in we purchased a new samsung dishwasher. Retail price tag on it was between 6-700. We got it on sale for around 450 or so.
Anyways, it's HORRIBLE about getting dishes clean! We have even used the oxy stuff for hard water, and run a cleaner for just the dishwasher often.
Anyone know if we just got jipped on the dishwasher or if it's really from the hard water? I've gone back to washing all our dishes by hand and using the dishwasher as a drying rack because it's aggravates me so bad.
I want to get a water softener for our house but right now can't afford it, and also the water for the horses comes from the house and we wanted to run new lines before we got a softener.....
LOL!!!! I should have warned you about this... Sorry.. My bad.... Let me fill you in.... One of the things I miss the most about home is the taste of the water. You are sitting above a humongous limestone aquifer. Let me tell you a secret. As bad as you think it is... Keep an eye on your hot water heater... That's where it causes the most problems... A water softener will help a lot, but it spoils the taste... We never had one... |
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Location: Somewhere between raising hell and Amazing Grace | komet. - 2014-05-13 12:56 PM missroselee - 2014-05-12 8:26 AM I know we have very hard water at our house here in Missouri. You can see it, feel it, etc. The kind of hard water that leaves a film on everything....but it certainly is delicious to drink......
Anyways.....shortly after we moved in we purchased a new samsung dishwasher. Retail price tag on it was between 6-700. We got it on sale for around 450 or so.
Anyways, it's HORRIBLE about getting dishes clean! We have even used the oxy stuff for hard water, and run a cleaner for just the dishwasher often.
Anyone know if we just got jipped on the dishwasher or if it's really from the hard water? I've gone back to washing all our dishes by hand and using the dishwasher as a drying rack because it's aggravates me so bad.
I want to get a water softener for our house but right now can't afford it, and also the water for the horses comes from the house and we wanted to run new lines before we got a softener..... LOL!!!! I should have warned you about this... Sorry.. My bad.... Let me fill you in.... One of the things I miss the most about home is the taste of the water. You are sitting above a humongous limestone aquifer. Let me tell you a secret. As bad as you think it is... Keep an eye on your hot water heater... That's where it causes the most problems... A water softener will help a lot, but it spoils the taste... We never had one...
The hot water heater here is older. Around ten years. So we are already tracking that we will most likely have to replace it before too long :) |
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TOTALLY OT.....dishwashers and hard water.