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"She's got brain damage"
"She's too old."
"She's in terrible health."
C'mon.....COME ON ARE YOU FOLKS FOR REAL WITH THIS? Let's start off the campaigns immediately on the attack with weak at the knee claims. It won't help anything but HER.
Karl Rove...needs to get a job at the circus. Reibus same deal here. Them "Good Ol' boys" are destroying this party. Correction, destroyed.
I think they work for the Democrats.
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Location: North Texas | RidenFly - 2014-05-19 9:36 AM Where can I exchange my Republican card? I think very very little of Mrs Clinton but even I am not buying this new campaign tactic of
"She's got brain damage"
"She's too old."
"She's in terrible health."
C'mon.....COME ON ARE YOU FOLKS FOR REAL WITH THIS? Let's start off the campaigns immediately on the attack with weak at the knee claims. It won't help anything but HER.
Karl Rove...needs to get a job at the circus. Reibus same deal here. Them "Good Ol' boys" are destroying this party. Correction, destroyed.
I think they work for the Democrats.
RF, One must remember that Karl Rove is representative of The Estashblishment Republican Faction of The GOP. He does not represent The Complete GOP! Karl Rove is about as Anti Tea Party as it gets. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | RidenFly - 2014-05-19 9:36 AM
Where can I exchange my Republican card? I think very very little of Mrs Clinton but even I am not buying this new campaign tactic of
"She's got brain damage"
"She's too old."
"She's in terrible health."
C'mon.....COME ON ARE YOU FOLKS FOR REAL WITH THIS? Let's start off the campaigns immediately on the attack with weak at the knee claims. It won't help anything but HER.
Karl Rove...needs to get a job at the circus. Reibus same deal here. Them "Good Ol' boys" are destroying this party. Correction, destroyed.
I think they work for the Democrats.
What on Earth do you have against the circus that you want to shove these idiots into that venue??
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Location: Kansas | Karl Rove is amazingly well informed and I totally enjoy his commentaries. The things he said about Hillary were taken out of context and misconstrued by liberals........just exactly what they did to Mitt Romney and his family.
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Frodo - 2014-05-19 2:12 PM Karl Rove is amazingly well informed and I totally enjoy his commentaries. The things he said about Hillary were taken out of context and misconstrued by liberals........just exactly what they did to Mitt Romney and his family.
When all else fails........blame it on the "liberals"......he has stuck his foot in his mouth more than just this one time........ |
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| Frodo - 2014-05-20 12:12 PM Karl Rove is amazingly well informed and I totally enjoy his commentaries. The things he said about Hillary were taken out of context and misconstrued by liberals........just exactly what they did to Mitt Romney and his family.
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Location: Kansas | RidenFly - 2014-05-19 3:02 PM Frodo - 2014-05-20 12:12 PM Karl Rove is amazingly well informed and I totally enjoy his commentaries. The things he said about Hillary were taken out of context and misconstrued by liberals........just exactly what they did to Mitt Romney and his family.
Oh Frodo you just broke my heart. *sniff*
If I remember right, you don't have access to FOX news, you would be very impressed with Karl if you could watch his contributions.
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Location: Kansas | NJJ - 2014-05-19 2:39 PM Frodo - 2014-05-19 2:12 PM Karl Rove is amazingly well informed and I totally enjoy his commentaries. The things he said about Hillary were taken out of context and misconstrued by liberals........just exactly what they did to Mitt Romney and his family.
When all else fails........blame it on the "liberals"......he has stuck his foot in his mouth more than just this one time........
Dems twisted his original comments into a total fairy tale. They're good at that.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Rove is a sharp guy, as a political strategist, and I do enjoy his commentary, most of the time. Since he is not running for office, he is free to say whatever he wants, and sometimes I think there is more to his incendiary remarks than meets the eye. I didn't hear his original remarks in real time, but I have read about them and listened to commentary on them, so I can't say whether or not he was taken out of context. If he was, then I wouldn't be surprised. Even so, his bringing out "health concerns", regardless of the validity of those remarks, may well have planted a "seed" in some voter's mind that might make a few independent voters wonder about Hillary's health, age, etc... I think it was a stupid remark and it could backfire, but that just might have been his calculation. This will blow over. Both parties have their "mouthpieces" who do things like this, and they are insulated from consequences because they aren't running themselves. Really, as far as I'm concerned, it won't amount to a hill of beans by this time next year. |
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| Dems have Jesse Jackson, Republicans have Karl Rove, Tea Party has Cliven Bundy!
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Listen up. We will NEVER beat the Dems at the mud slinging because they have CONTROL of the media and Hollywood.
Beat them fair and square with topics that matter or GO HOME.
Better yet, TEA needs its own political party...
Okay now I will run from the tomatoes being thrown at me by Scott and others that HATE the third party rants...
Yeah, I know Scott...but have I mentioned how SICK I am of the Repukelicans? |
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-05-19 4:30 PM Rove is a sharp guy, as a political strategist, and I do enjoy his commentary, most of the time. Since he is not running for office, he is free to say whatever he wants, and sometimes I think there is more to his incendiary remarks than meets the eye. I didn't hear his original remarks in real time, but I have read about them and listened to commentary on them, so I can't say whether or not he was taken out of context. If he was, then I wouldn't be surprised. Even so, his bringing out "health concerns", regardless of the validity of those remarks, may well have planted a "seed" in some voter's mind that might make a few independent voters wonder about Hillary's health, age, etc... I think it was a stupid remark and it could backfire, but that just might have been his calculation. This will blow over. Both parties have their "mouthpieces" who do things like this, and they are insulated from consequences because they aren't running themselves. Really, as far as I'm concerned, it won't amount to a hill of beans by this time next year.
That's exactly what he was doing..........planting a seed. I know it looks like a jerk thing to say/do, but don't think for a minute if the shoe was on the other foot, Bill would be doing the same thing........sort of like the Monica story just now coming out so we can all feel bad for Hillary.........it's all crappy politics all the way around. I do like the Tea party.......seem more like they stand for something instead of politics as usual |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | NJJ - 2014-05-18 3:39 PM Frodo - 2014-05-19 2:12 PM Karl Rove is amazingly well informed and I totally enjoy his commentaries. The things he said about Hillary were taken out of context and misconstrued by liberals........just exactly what they did to Mitt Romney and his family.
When all else fails........blame it on the "liberals"......he has stuck his foot in his mouth more than just this one time........
Why was it wrong to question her health..................is that standard procedure for any presidential candidate..........
And if I remember correctly how many times was McCain's health questioned and even Obama blamed some of his responses on his age........
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | RidenFly - 2014-05-19 4:53 PM ** Me on my high horse**
Listen up. We will NEVER beat the Dems at the mud slinging because they have CONTROL of the media and Hollywood.
Beat them fair and square with topics that matter or GO HOME.
Better yet, TEA needs its own political party...
Okay now I will run from the tomatoes being thrown at me by Scott and others that HATE the third party rants...
Yeah, I know Scott...but have I mentioned how SICK I am of the Repukelicans?
I just said I am no longer a Republican, Riden. My problem has been that I have to accept the GOP candidate because there is no such thing as a "conservative Democrat" in this day and age. There used to be a number of them, but they are all extinct. "Conservative Democrat" when it comes to the NATIONAL political scene is an oxymoron. There aren't any. Consequently, while I no longer call myself a Republican, I have to vote for the lesser of two evils every 2 years. People like me almost all feel the same way, except for those 3.5 million Republicans who refused to vote in the last election because their candidate wasn't nominated. They all basically threw their lollipops in the dirt and stayed home.....so now we are stuck with people like Obozo. I didn't like McCain as a POTUS candidate either but I voted for him because I felt he was a far better choice than Obozo....even though Palin was his running mate. History tells us that third party candidates only spoil the election of one party or the other. Nobody has come close to winning a presidential election since TR. The closest anyone has come was Ross Perot back in '92 when he captured about 20% of the popuar vote. The vast majority of those Perot votes came out of the George HW Bush column. We'd better learn that lesson if we ever expect to win. It's one thing to have a strict set of core values, and sometimes quite another to be pragmatic. Right now, a "Tea Party" as a third party will simply render BOTH the Tea Party and the GOP impotent and hand over any election to the Democrats. The only hope we have is the pragmatic solution. A wise choice on the right candidate can, in theory at least, satisfy all the factions within the GOP. I hope the people who stayed home last time are tasting the bitter rewards of their tantrum, because they are getting what they asked for. |
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| I want to apologize for the "Repukelican" statement. That is ugly. We don't need another cycle of name calling ugliness. Here's hoping this go around we all show more class and decorum than that.
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Location: Broxton, Ga | HotbearLVR - 2014-05-18 6:30 PM RidenFly - 2014-05-19 4:53 PM ** Me on my high horse**
Listen up. We will NEVER beat the Dems at the mud slinging because they have CONTROL of the media and Hollywood.
Beat them fair and square with topics that matter or GO HOME.
Better yet, TEA needs its own political party...
Okay now I will run from the tomatoes being thrown at me by Scott and others that HATE the third party rants...
Yeah, I know Scott...but have I mentioned how SICK I am of the Repukelicans? I just said I am no longer a Republican, Riden. My problem has been that I have to accept the GOP candidate because there is no such thing as a "conservative Democrat" in this day and age. There used to be a number of them, but they are all extinct. "Conservative Democrat" when it comes to the NATIONAL political scene is an oxymoron. There aren't any. Consequently, while I no longer call myself a Republican, I have to vote for the lesser of two evils every 2 years. People like me almost all feel the same way, except for those 3.5 million Republicans who refused to vote in the last election because their candidate wasn't nominated. They all basically threw their lollipops in the dirt and stayed home.....so now we are stuck with people like Obozo. I didn't like McCain as a POTUS candidate either but I voted for him because I felt he was a far better choice than Obozo....even though Palin was his running mate. History tells us that third party candidates only spoil the election of one party or the other. Nobody has come close to winning a presidential election since TR. The closest anyone has come was Ross Perot back in '92 when he captured about 20% of the popuar vote. The vast majority of those Perot votes came out of the George HW Bush column. We'd better learn that lesson if we ever expect to win. It's one thing to have a strict set of core values, and sometimes quite another to be pragmatic. Right now, a "Tea Party" as a third party will simply render BOTH the Tea Party and the GOP impotent and hand over any election to the Democrats. The only hope we have is the pragmatic solution. A wise choice on the right candidate can, in theory at least, satisfy all the factions within the GOP. I hope the people who stayed home last time are tasting the bitter rewards of their tantrum, because they are getting what they asked for.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | At least there is vigorous debate and even some healthy dissention within the GOP. That isn't necessarily a bad thing....so long as people at least suck it up in the end and get out and vote in the general election. If they stick to "principle" and refuse to vote unless it's for their candidate who was defeated in the primaries, then we will all be screwed.
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Location: Online | I'm sick of it all. Politicians on both sides aren't in it to help anyone but themselves. They are in it for money and power. Maybe with the exception of a few, but not many, those few will cross over to the dark side soon enough. For the majority it's a get rich quick scheme by scratching each other's backs and kissing ass. Nancy Pelosi gets elected year after year because her constituents love her. She is able to pull strings and funnel money to her district to give them what they want. It doesn't matter from where or how she gets it, those people are benefitting, therefore they keep voting her in. To hell with the rest of the country.
As for Karl Rove, while I agree with a lot of what he says, I also disagree with him a lot. My question is, who is he in the greater scheme of things? Really? Why are the Liberals having such heartburn over what he says? He's just a talking head, he has very little influence over people. Whether I agree with him or not, I don't take what he says as gospel, I am able to make up my own mind. Unlike those who are mesmerized and hypnotized by everything that comes out of Obama's lying mouth. Whatever Rove or any other talking head says doesn't mean anything. The media is just creating drama.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | rodeomom13 - 2014-05-20 9:37 AM
I'm sick of it all. Politicians on both sides aren't in it to help anyone but themselves. They are in it for money and power. Maybe with the exception of a few, but not many, those few will cross over to the dark side soon enough. For the majority it's a get rich quick scheme by scratching each other's backs and kissing ass. Nancy Pelosi gets elected year after year because her constituents love her. She is able to pull strings and funnel money to her district to give them what they want. It doesn't matter from where or how she gets it, those people are benefitting, therefore they keep voting her in. To hell with the rest of the country.
As for Karl Rove, while I agree with a lot of what he says, I also disagree with him a lot. My question is, who is he in the greater scheme of things? Really? Why are the Liberals having such heartburn over what he says? He's just a talking head, he has very little influence over people. Whether I agree with him or not, I don't take what he says as gospel, I am able to make up my own mind. Unlike those who are mesmerized and hypnotized by everything that comes out of Obama's lying mouth. Whatever Rove or any other talking head says doesn't mean anything. The media is just creating drama.
At least some of us who are right wing loons aren't afraid of criticizing our own. Lefty's are unable to do that.
Absolutely, Rodeomom! They almost never criticise their own or dissent. Think of some of our more liberal BBs for example. When was the last time you ever saw one of them criticise a liberal politician? I can't think of a single example.....can anyone else? I doubt it. This very thread is aimed at criticizing the GOP and Rove. You very seldom see this kind of objective analysis and intellectual honesty on the left. They are just marching in lock-step behind their leaders, parroting the same talking points, sometimes down to the letter. I know who taught them this from history.....and so does everyone else. |
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Location: Texas | The 2016 GOP candidate is going to be an interesting thing to see. Historically, the GOP never wants to step away from the evangelical vote. It's hurt them in the past two elections so we'll see if a different strategy will be practiced (what's the definition of insanity, again?). I know I'm not included in the "young" vote anymore but at 31 and in a red state, I can tell you that my age and below typically don't want the bs EITHER party brings to the table -- they don't want their money stolen out of every paycheck OR being told how to live their life if it's not infriging on another's rights.
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Location: Kansas | Riden, you might look up what Sarah Palin had to say about this. Sarah was treated badly by the liberal press and that's putting it mildly. Her take "why not Hillary?" Hillary had a traumatic head injury and that was all Karl Rove was trying to point out. Even Bill Clinton said it took her six months to recover. Might be good to know when you're talking about a potential POTUS.
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| Frodo - 2014-05-20 11:06 AM Riden, you might look up what Sarah Palin had to say about this. Sarah was treated badly by the liberal press and that's putting it mildly. Her take "why not Hillary?" Hillary had a traumatic head injury and that was all Karl Rove was trying to point out. Even Bill Clinton said it took her six months to recover. Might be good to know when you're talking about a potential POTUS.
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Location: Kansas | Griz - 2014-05-20 11:13 AM Frodo - 2014-05-20 11:06 AM Riden, you might look up what Sarah Palin had to say about this. Sarah was treated badly by the liberal press and that's putting it mildly. Her take "why not Hillary?" Hillary had a traumatic head injury and that was all Karl Rove was trying to point out. Even Bill Clinton said it took her six months to recover. Might be good to know when you're talking about a potential POTUS.
I thought a brain injury was a prerequisite to run for office of the POTUS!
...or the lack of a brain altogether.
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Location: Denver, but a Nebraska native -- GO BIG RED!!! | The Democrats aren't worried about Karl Rove. He's a political hack whose time has passed. Go Hillary!  |
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| I hope I feel differently soon and you all can throw it in my face but as of now...I've given up. I don't think the G.O.P will ever embrace grassroots and I don't think a third party can win without a miracle. I don't think the people who want things for free are going to suddenly grow a back bone and ethics. Its too easy to collect food stamps while talking on your IPhone because, hey...it's your God-given American right. Except, they don't want to hear about God. We're supposed to call Illeagal aliens, Undocumented Citizens but real citizens are crucified for everything under the sun...
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | bigredrascal - 2014-05-20 1:36 PM The Democrats aren't worried about Karl Rove. He's a political hack whose time has passed. Go Hillary!
What has Hillary done that you would vote for her? I can only think of things she has done why NOT to vote for her. |
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| Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 4:19 PM
bigredrascal - 2014-05-20 1:36 PM The Democrats aren't worried about Karl Rove. He's a political hack whose time has passed. Go Hillary!
What do you mean!!! Why she helped the oil industry by flying all over the world burning jet fuel accomplishing ZIP!!!! And besides she ran for President in 2008 and got beat by a no name Senator. But she is a woman so we should all vote for her it's her turn isn't it come on people!!!!  |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | RidenFly - 2014-05-20 3:51 PM I hope I feel differently soon and you all can throw it in my face but as of now...I've given up. I don't think the G.O.P will ever embrace grassroots and I don't think a third party can win without a miracle. I don't think the people who want things for free are going to suddenly grow a back bone and ethics. Its too easy to collect food stamps while talking on your IPhone because, hey...it's your God-given American right. Except, they don't want to hear about God. We're supposed to call Illeagal aliens, Undocumented Citizens but real citizens are crucified for everything under the sun...
Doomed. That's how I feel. I hope it changes soon.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | NJJ - 2014-05-20 5:09 PM RidenFly - 2014-05-20 3:51 PM I hope I feel differently soon and you all can throw it in my face but as of now...I've given up. I don't think the G.O.P will ever embrace grassroots and I don't think a third party can win without a miracle. I don't think the people who want things for free are going to suddenly grow a back bone and ethics. Its too easy to collect food stamps while talking on your IPhone because, hey...it's your God-given American right. Except, they don't want to hear about God. We're supposed to call Illeagal aliens, Undocumented Citizens but real citizens are crucified for everything under the sun...
Doomed. That's how I feel. I hope it changes soon. Mark this day on your calendar.....I agree with you.......
Basically, I think you are both right. I don't really see the different factions within the GOP uniting and rallying around any particular candidate. If one group is fired up, another is turned off. I'm amazed at how my opinion of Romney has grown steadily since the summer of 2012. I just think we missed the chance to elect the right man at a time when he was just so desperately needed. His resume' is unmatched, in my opinion. That's just me. The Dems did a much better job of getting out the vote. I hate to say this Riden, and you know that I like Palin, but I was disappointed that she didn't bend over backwards to endorse Romney or work to rally the base to get him elected. She let me down, because she could have made a big difference. |
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Location: North Texas | jbhoot - 2014-05-20 4:37 PM Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 4:19 PM bigredrascal - 2014-05-20 1:36 PM The Democrats aren't worried about Karl Rove. He's a political hack whose time has passed. Go Hillary! What do you mean!!! Why she helped the oil industry by flying all over the world burning jet fuel accomplishing ZIP!!!! And besides she ran for President in 2008 and got beat by a no name Senator. But she is a woman so we should all vote for her it's her turn isn't it come on people!!!!
Hillary Clinton literally has no accomplishments to speak of. Other than being Arkansas' Governors Wife, 1st Lady, New York State Senator, and then Sec. of State. These are the Titles Hillary Clinton has held, but with absolutely no results attributed to any of the Titles. The proof is the pudding of just how sucessful (or actually not been) Mrs. Hillary Clinton has been in Her Illustrous Political Life. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | foundation horse - 2014-05-20 6:53 PM
jbhoot - 2014-05-20 4:37 PM Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 4:19 PM bigredrascal - 2014-05-20 1:36 PM The Democrats aren't worried about Karl Rove. He's a political hack whose time has passed. Go Hillary! What do you mean!!! Why she helped the oil industry by flying all over the world burning jet fuel accomplishing ZIP!!!! And besides she ran for President in 2008 and got beat by a no name Senator. But she is a woman so we should all vote for her it's her turn isn't it come on people!!!!
Hillary Clinton literally has no accomplishments to speak of. Other than being Arkansas' Governors Wife, 1st Lady, New York State Senator, and then Sec. of State. These are the Titles Hillary Clinton has held, but with absolutely no results attributed to any of the Titles. The proof is the pudding of just how sucessful (or actually not been ) Mrs. Hillary Clinton has been in Her Illustrous Political Life.
Foundation Horse, as you know, a resume' and a record of significant accomplishment no longer matters.....it hasn't mattered since 2008. Hillary's lack of noteworthy accomplishments is a moot point in this day and age. Look at what Romney has accomplished and what Obozo accomplished....obviously substance doesn't matter anymore. Why should it be any different with Hillary? |
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1. Republicans are pooping their pants thinking about a Hillary run for President.
2. Since she hasn't declared a candidacy yet, speculating about her health is a moot point, demanding she release her medical records now is bizarre, and Sarah Palin's comment about being treated differently is weird since she was already a candidate for the vice presidency.
3. Republicans will never win another national election if the don't cool it on the social issues. The world is changing and if the GOP doesn't want to become an afterthought, they need to get with the program. Social media instantly spreads every stupid comment that politicians say, so every gay slur, racist dog whistle, voter restriction idea, and poor people are taker memes that come out of the fringes are emailed, hash tagged, messaged, Facebooked etc to young and old alike. Like it or not, social media activism is here to stay.
4. I personally find it disturbing that female politicians are held to a different standard, their hair, their clothes, their "mood swings", are all discussed in the press whereas male politicians are given a pass. Is it any wonder that women, who are proven to be better negotiators, choose to pass on political careers rather than go through the gauntlet of a run for office? Sad.
5. You are watching/reading the wrong news if you don't see Dems disagreeing, many times to the detriment of their policies. I have been criticized for not speaking against Democrats, but I am hear to tell you that the Senators who extol the virtues of the Keystone Pipeline to save their own political hides, do not garner any respect from me. Keystone is a for profit foreign oil company that is taking Americans' land against their will with little benefit to us and all the risk, but that is a story for another day.
As for Hillary, You go girl!
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The Democrats aren't worried about Karl Rove. He's a political hack whose time has passed. Go Hillary!
DITTO!!
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Location: North Texas | IB1UKNO - 2014-05-20 9:20 PM bigredrascal - 2014-05-20 1:36 PM The Democrats aren't worried about Karl Rove. He's a political hack whose time has passed. Go Hillary! DITTO!! Hillary and Elizabeth Warren -VP- I would give that team some serious consideration.
I would hope you do. Because provided You vote for this Duo, then You have outted Yourself as the epitomy of a "Low Information Voter"! |
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Location: North Texas | HotbearLVR - 2014-05-20 8:05 PM foundation horse - 2014-05-20 6:53 PM jbhoot - 2014-05-20 4:37 PM Nevertooold - 2014-05-20 4:19 PM bigredrascal - 2014-05-20 1:36 PM The Democrats aren't worried about Karl Rove. He's a political hack whose time has passed. Go Hillary! What do you mean!!! Why she helped the oil industry by flying all over the world burning jet fuel accomplishing ZIP!!!! And besides she ran for President in 2008 and got beat by a no name Senator. But she is a woman so we should all vote for her it's her turn isn't it come on people!!!! Hillary Clinton literally has no accomplishments to speak of. Other than being Arkansas' Governors Wife, 1st Lady, New York State Senator, and then Sec. of State. These are the Titles Hillary Clinton has held, but with absolutely no results attributed to any of the Titles. The proof is the pudding of just how sucessful (or actually not been ) Mrs. Hillary Clinton has been in Her Illustrous Political Life. Foundation Horse, as you know, a resume' and a record of significant accomplishment no longer matters.....it hasn't mattered since 2008. Hillary's lack of noteworthy accomplishments is a moot point in this day and age. Look at what Romney has accomplished and what Obozo accomplished....obviously substance doesn't matter anymore. Why should it be any different with Hillary?
Agreed! After the election and subsequent re-election of a President with an unfathomable past, why would America even look into the background of Her Leader? |
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Location: Online | IB1UKNO - 2014-05-20 8:20 PM bigredrascal - 2014-05-20 1:36 PM The Democrats aren't worried about Karl Rove. He's a political hack whose time has passed. Go Hillary! DITTO!! Hillary and Elizabeth Warren -VP- I would give that team some serious consideration.
I sincerly hope that is sarcasm..... Why not a Pelosi/Reid ticket? |
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VOTING MAKES A DIFFERENCE ..
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | FinneyQuarterHorses - 2014-05-20 9:06 PM
Points to Ponder:
1. Republicans are pooping their pants thinking about a Hillary run for President.
2. Since she hasn't declared a candidacy yet, speculating about her health is a moot point, demanding she release her medical records now is bizarre, and Sarah Palin's comment about being treated differently is weird since she was already a candidate for the vice presidency.
3. Republicans will never win another national election if the don't cool it on the social issues. The world is changing and if the GOP doesn't want to become an afterthought, they need to get with the program. Social media instantly spreads every stupid comment that politicians say, so every gay slur, racist dog whistle, voter restriction idea, and poor people are taker memes that come out of the fringes are emailed, hash tagged, messaged, Facebooked etc to young and old alike. Like it or not, social media activism is here to stay.
4. I personally find it disturbing that female politicians are held to a different standard, their hair, their clothes, their "mood swings", are all discussed in the press whereas male politicians are given a pass. Is it any wonder that women, who are proven to be better negotiators, choose to pass on political careers rather than go through the gauntlet of a run for office? Sad.
5. You are watching/reading the wrong news if you don't see Dems disagreeing, many times to the detriment of their policies. I have been criticized for not speaking against Democrats, but I am hear to tell you that the Senators who extol the virtues of the Keystone Pipeline to save their own political hides, do not garner any respect from me. Keystone is a for profit foreign oil company that is taking Americans' land against their will with little benefit to us and all the risk, but that is a story for another day.
As for Hillary, You go girl!
I think if the Republicans are "pooping their pants", it's because they are afraid that history may well repeat itself, and we will wind up with another president who has accomplished very little that is meaningful and noteworthy....that she is another "annointed one" like the worthless evil bastard we have in the White House now. Most people agree that Rove's remarks were stupid. My question to you Finney is can you think of any specific similar remarks made by a liberal?
I still haven't seen a single specific criticism of another liberal from you....only some vague reference. It kills you to criticise a fellow liberal, doesn't it? You just can't do it. You say women politicians are held to a different standard.
How so? Personally, I would love to see a woman elected president.....just not Hillary. I prefer someone more along the lines of Maggie Thatcher. I think she was one of the greatest leaders in modern history.
What "voter restriction" idea are you referring to, Finney? Voter ID?
Can you think of any instances where liberals or liberal operatives tried to intimidate voters?
You allude to racism......can you think of any examples of liberal use of racist tactics? |
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Location: Kansas | Hillary Clinton.........is that all you liberal guys got? No competition at all.
I mean did the well run dry, end of the trail, bottom of the barrel, that's all she wrote? Nobody else qualified, beloved by all.......Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Debbie Wasserman, Anthony Weiner, Michael Bloomberg, Sean Penn, George Clooney. Whoop, just answered my own question.
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Location: Midwest | BARRELHORSE USA - 2014-05-20 10:59 PM Both parties have everyone thinking that VOTING MAKES A DIFFERENCE .. HA HA HA HA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ...
yup.... politicians are generally cut from the same morally bankrupt cloth these days. To get to the level of running for president, you've had to scratch so many backs that you are no longer able to stand for something.
Political party, at this point, IMO is somewhat irrelevant as they generally have sold out to so many for so long that.... well... they are representatives of corporations/people sponsoring them. Follow the money...
Also the pandering.... my god, it's become a contest of appealing to the lowest common denominator.
BTW, this is both parties..... just to reiterate that....
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Location: Online | HotbearLVR - 2014-05-20 10:42 PM FinneyQuarterHorses - 2014-05-20 9:06 PM Points to Ponder: 1. Republicans are pooping their pants thinking about a Hillary run for President. 2. Since she hasn't declared a candidacy yet, speculating about her health is a moot point, demanding she release her medical records now is bizarre, and Sarah Palin's comment about being treated differently is weird since she was already a candidate for the vice presidency. 3. Republicans will never win another national election if the don't cool it on the social issues. The world is changing and if the GOP doesn't want to become an afterthought, they need to get with the program. Social media instantly spreads every stupid comment that politicians say, so every gay slur, racist dog whistle, voter restriction idea, and poor people are taker memes that come out of the fringes are emailed, hash tagged, messaged, Facebooked etc to young and old alike. Like it or not, social media activism is here to stay. 4. I personally find it disturbing that female politicians are held to a different standard, their hair, their clothes, their "mood swings", are all discussed in the press whereas male politicians are given a pass. Is it any wonder that women, who are proven to be better negotiators, choose to pass on political careers rather than go through the gauntlet of a run for office? Sad. 5. You are watching/reading the wrong news if you don't see Dems disagreeing, many times to the detriment of their policies. I have been criticized for not speaking against Democrats, but I am hear to tell you that the Senators who extol the virtues of the Keystone Pipeline to save their own political hides, do not garner any respect from me. Keystone is a for profit foreign oil company that is taking Americans' land against their will with little benefit to us and all the risk, but that is a story for another day. As for Hillary, You go girl! I think if the Republicans are "pooping their pants", it's because they are afraid that history may well repeat itself, and we will wind up with another president who has accomplished very little that is meaningful and noteworthy....that she is another "annointed one" like the worthless evil bastard we have in the White House now. Most people agree that Rove's remarks were stupid. My question to you Finney is can you think of any specific similar remarks made by a liberal? I still haven't seen a single specific criticism of another liberal from you....only some vague reference. It kills you to criticise a fellow liberal, doesn't it? You just can't do it. You say women politicians are held to a different standard. How so? Personally, I would love to see a woman elected president.....just not Hillary. I prefer someone more along the lines of Maggie Thatcher. I think she was one of the greatest leaders in modern history. What "voter restriction" idea are you referring to, Finney? Voter ID? Can you think of any instances where liberals or liberal operatives tried to intimidate voters? You allude to racism......can you think of any examples of liberal use of racist tactics?
Finney is one who needs to stop worshipping Rachel Maddow and reading The Huff and learn to think for herself instead of repeating liberal talking points about what the Conservatives are worried about. I for one am not worried about Hillary, I think her ineptness in Benghazi and other things while Secretary of State will take care of her for us.
Besides........ Hillary? Really? She's the best you Libs have? She was already the President once. While her husband was busy playing hide the cigar. |
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-05-20 11:42 PM
FinneyQuarterHorses - 2014-05-20 9:06 PM
Points to Ponder:
1. Republicans are pooping their pants thinking about a Hillary run for President.
2. Since she hasn't declared a candidacy yet, speculating about her health is a moot point, demanding she release her medical records now is bizarre, and Sarah Palin's comment about being treated differently is weird since she was already a candidate for the vice presidency.
3. Republicans will never win another national election if the don't cool it on the social issues. The world is changing and if the GOP doesn't want to become an afterthought, they need to get with the program. Social media instantly spreads every stupid comment that politicians say, so every gay slur, racist dog whistle, voter restriction idea, and poor people are taker memes that come out of the fringes are emailed, hash tagged, messaged, Facebooked etc to young and old alike. Like it or not, social media activism is here to stay.
4. I personally find it disturbing that female politicians are held to a different standard, their hair, their clothes, their "mood swings", are all discussed in the press whereas male politicians are given a pass. Is it any wonder that women, who are proven to be better negotiators, choose to pass on political careers rather than go through the gauntlet of a run for office? Sad.
5. You are watching/reading the wrong news if you don't see Dems disagreeing, many times to the detriment of their policies. I have been criticized for not speaking against Democrats, but I am hear to tell you that the Senators who extol the virtues of the Keystone Pipeline to save their own political hides, do not garner any respect from me. Keystone is a for profit foreign oil company that is taking Americans' land against their will with little benefit to us and all the risk, but that is a story for another day.
As for Hillary, You go girl!
I think if the Republicans are "pooping their pants", it's because they are afraid that history may well repeat itself, and we will wind up with another president who has accomplished very little that is meaningful and noteworthy....that she is another "annointed one" like the worthless evil bastard we have in the White House now. Most people agree that Rove's remarks were stupid. My question to you Finney is can you think of any specific similar remarks made by a liberal?
I still haven't seen a single specific criticism of another liberal from you....only some vague reference. It kills you to criticise a fellow liberal, doesn't it? You just can't do it. You say women politicians are held to a different standard.
How so? Personally, I would love to see a woman elected president.....just not Hillary. I prefer someone more along the lines of Maggie Thatcher. I think she was one of the greatest leaders in modern history.
What "voter restriction" idea are you referring to, Finney? Voter ID?
Can you think of any instances where liberals or liberal operatives tried to intimidate voters?
You allude to racism......can you think of any examples of liberal use of racist tactics?
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Location: South Central Florida | I don't understand the hoopla over what he said. He was talking about her health history. Holy Cow I remember WAY back when all they talked about was Regans health and age. I believe she will be as old or older than he was when and if she runs.
I also don't understand why any question about her is "OMG, how horrible", no one was leaving the part over the things the Dems said about Palin's issues with her youngest son. . .
Yes...I do think most if not all politiions are crooked idiots, but they are what we have. I WISH I could say and mean it, that I don't vote a party line....I vote for the person. BUT there is no way we can really know every one that runs for office. The Party they choose to affiliate themselves with says a lot about their personal beliefs. Therefore, that is where we have to start. I could and would vote for a person that was not a Republican if their views lined up with mine.....but why would they if they were democrats? Pro Life? Pro 2nd Ammendment? the list goes on. It is a starting point.
Personally I think Hillary was hiding from Bengazi, not hiding a head injury. But if there WAS a head injury, and she was 30 days in recovery why is it wrong to question it?
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Location: Arkansas | Hmmmm.....wonder if Jeb will throw his hat in the ring? Or George Prescott Bush? |
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Location: Online | Lobo - 2014-05-21 10:02 AM
Hmmmm.....wonder if Jeb will throw his hat in the ring? Or George Prescott Bush?
Oh heavens. I hope not. Even though the Libs are afraid of Jeb Bush, I fear that the GOP will jump on that bandwagon. Yikes! |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | FinneyQuarterHorses - 2014-05-21 9:57 AM
HotbearLVR - 2014-05-20 11:42 PM
FinneyQuarterHorses - 2014-05-20 9:06 PM
Points to Ponder:
1. Republicans are pooping their pants thinking about a Hillary run for President.
2. Since she hasn't declared a candidacy yet, speculating about her health is a moot point, demanding she release her medical records now is bizarre, and Sarah Palin's comment about being treated differently is weird since she was already a candidate for the vice presidency.
3. Republicans will never win another national election if the don't cool it on the social issues. The world is changing and if the GOP doesn't want to become an afterthought, they need to get with the program. Social media instantly spreads every stupid comment that politicians say, so every gay slur, racist dog whistle, voter restriction idea, and poor people are taker memes that come out of the fringes are emailed, hash tagged, messaged, Facebooked etc to young and old alike. Like it or not, social media activism is here to stay.
4. I personally find it disturbing that female politicians are held to a different standard, their hair, their clothes, their "mood swings", are all discussed in the press whereas male politicians are given a pass. Is it any wonder that women, who are proven to be better negotiators, choose to pass on political careers rather than go through the gauntlet of a run for office? Sad.
5. You are watching/reading the wrong news if you don't see Dems disagreeing, many times to the detriment of their policies. I have been criticized for not speaking against Democrats, but I am hear to tell you that the Senators who extol the virtues of the Keystone Pipeline to save their own political hides, do not garner any respect from me. Keystone is a for profit foreign oil company that is taking Americans' land against their will with little benefit to us and all the risk, but that is a story for another day.
As for Hillary, You go girl!
I think if the Republicans are "pooping their pants", it's because they are afraid that history may well repeat itself, and we will wind up with another president who has accomplished very little that is meaningful and noteworthy....that she is another "annointed one" like the worthless evil bastard we have in the White House now. Most people agree that Rove's remarks were stupid. My question to you Finney is can you think of any specific similar remarks made by a liberal?
I still haven't seen a single specific criticism of another liberal from you....only some vague reference. It kills you to criticise a fellow liberal, doesn't it? You just can't do it. You say women politicians are held to a different standard.
How so? Personally, I would love to see a woman elected president.....just not Hillary. I prefer someone more along the lines of Maggie Thatcher. I think she was one of the greatest leaders in modern history.
What "voter restriction" idea are you referring to, Finney? Voter ID?
Can you think of any instances where liberals or liberal operatives tried to intimidate voters?
You allude to racism......can you think of any examples of liberal use of racist tactics?
Don't shoot the messenger.
LOL! Yeah, some messenger. More like a parrot. Parroting liberal talking points, as always. |
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Location: SE Louisiana | HotbearLVR - 2014-05-19 5:30 PM
RidenFly - 2014-05-19 4:53 PM ** Me on my high horse**
Listen up. We will NEVER beat the Dems at the mud slinging because they have CONTROL of the media and Hollywood.
Beat them fair and square with topics that matter or GO HOME.
Better yet, TEA needs its own political party...
Okay now I will run from the tomatoes being thrown at me by Scott and others that HATE the third party rants...
Yeah, I know Scott...but have I mentioned how SICK I am of the Repukelicans?
I just said I am no longer a Republican, Riden. My problem has been that I have to accept the GOP candidate because there is no such thing as a "conservative Democrat" in this day and age. There used to be a number of them, but they are all extinct. "Conservative Democrat" when it comes to the NATIONAL political scene is an oxymoron. There aren't any. Consequently, while I no longer call myself a Republican, I have to vote for the lesser of two evils every 2 years. People like me almost all feel the same way, except for those 3.5 million Republicans who refused to vote in the last election because their candidate wasn't nominated. They all basically threw their lollipops in the dirt and stayed home.....so now we are stuck with people like Obozo. I didn't like McCain as a POTUS candidate either but I voted for him because I felt he was a far better choice than Obozo....even though Palin was his running mate. History tells us that third party candidates only spoil the election of one party or the other. Nobody has come close to winning a presidential election since TR. The closest anyone has come was Ross Perot back in '92 when he captured about 20% of the popuar vote. The vast majority of those Perot votes came out of the George HW Bush column. We'd better learn that lesson if we ever expect to win. It's one thing to have a strict set of core values, and sometimes quite another to be pragmatic. Right now, a "Tea Party" as a third party will simply render BOTH the Tea Party and the GOP impotent and hand over any election to the Democrats. The only hope we have is the pragmatic solution. A wise choice on the right candidate can, in theory at least, satisfy all the factions within the GOP. I hope the people who stayed home last time are tasting the bitter rewards of their tantrum, because they are getting what they asked for.
...anyway... that should be reTHUGlican.... can't you spell?? |
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Location: SE Louisiana | I'm still holding on to the hope that Jindal will run... |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | komet. - 2014-05-22 4:17 PM I'm still holding on to the hope that Jindal will run...
He blew it when he did his Mr. Roger's speech after Katrina. |
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"I'snt there someone out there that knows what Americans really need?"
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Location: SE Louisiana | Nevertooold - 2014-05-22 4:37 PM
komet. - 2014-05-22 4:17 PM I'm still holding on to the hope that Jindal will run...
He blew it when he did his Mr. Roger's speech after Katrina.
He's done a lot of good for this state.... I suspect they will not want him in DC because he might break tradition and actually get something accomplished.
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I Prefer to Live in Fantasy Land
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | komet. - 2014-05-22 4:41 PM Nevertooold - 2014-05-22 4:37 PM komet. - 2014-05-22 4:17 PM I'm still holding on to the hope that Jindal will run... He blew it when he did his Mr. Roger's speech after Katrina. He's done a lot of good for this state.... I suspect they will not want him in DC because he might break tradition and actually get something accomplished.
I know he is a good man and has got a lot of things done but that doesn't buy you anything in the political world of today. Seems you have to be douche bag and be bought out and be run like a puppet. (Sound familiar) |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Nevertooold - 2014-05-22 5:46 PM
komet. - 2014-05-22 4:41 PM Nevertooold - 2014-05-22 4:37 PM komet. - 2014-05-22 4:17 PM I'm still holding on to the hope that Jindal will run... He blew it when he did his Mr. Roger's speech after Katrina. He's done a lot of good for this state.... I suspect they will not want him in DC because he might break tradition and actually get something accomplished.
Yes!!!! it does!!!!! It means I should throw my hat in and give it a try...  |
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