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Location: Florida.. | I think its BS he did this behind closed doors.. behind everyone in Washington.. its treason at it finest per someone said.....The guy deserted the troops... walked away... and palin wrote this...".... Barak Obama just released Islamic terrorists from GITMO, exchanging the murderers for a soldier who ended up in enemy hands five years ago amidst unexplained circumstances. Obama glowingly suggests now that he succeeded in negotiating with terrorists to seal the deal, violating America's agreement with our allies that we would not be so reckless, short-sighted and stupid as to negotiate w...ith terrorists – and now these Islamists who hate us are free to go about their business of killing us. Meanwhile, we have a U.S. Marine detained in Mexico who is ignored by Obama ""
– and this is what we exchanged him for...
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | My husband and I talked a little about this topic this morning watching GMA. I either missed the part where he was a deserter or they didn't touch on that on the broadcast. If he was a deserter than I have a huge problem with this and the fact that 6 soldiers lost their lives looking for him plus they released 5? prisoners that we had in exchange for this guy. If he was a true prisoner of war then that would shed a little different light on this for me. |
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Location: Arkansas | So do I. But I'm going to wait until there
is more reliable information out. So far it sounds like a bunch of sour grapes.
I do take exception to the member's of Congress squalling because they weren't notified before the hand off. I suppose they wanted to debate it for a few weeks. They couldn't get anything done without debate even if their pant's were on fire! 
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Location: Bandera, TX | LIVID! I've worked and trained with our troops. I know that many are not happy at all on this situation. I sure wonder what will happen to Bowe on his return to US soil? |
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Location: Washington | uno-dos-tres! - 2014-06-02 7:44 AM LIVID! I've worked and trained with our troops. I know that many are not happy at all on this situation. I sure wonder what will happen to Bowe on his return to US soil?
He will come home with guilt.....he and only he knows what he did that night and why. I want to hear what he has to say.....Those who have served with him are telling their story, it's not a positive one. |
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Location: Florida.. | Thats the source I got it from as well.. the ones that served with him, they quote.. he deserted the troops and command .walked away
per news.. online.. he deserted.. some even go as far as to say he wasnt a prisoner of war.. he was there willingly.. to use for this purpose..
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Location: WYOMING | We are bringing home a terrorist to live among us. What a disgrace to those who live and die defending our country.
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Location: Florida.. | he is of Muslim faith..
and the washington men do nothing but alllow this.. what is this relation to carney stepping down anyone know or does it? |
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Of all of the dastardly deeds that Obama has committed, this, BY FAR, is the most dangerous to our safety. He released five prisoners who were known to be VERY high up in the ranks of the taliban for ONE (supposed prisoner.
And, as much as I think that the members of Congress are a bunch of "nutcases"....they ARE correct.....they should have been notified because they would NOT have allowed this to happen. Additonally, I fear that, NOW, that we have set the precedent of "negotiating" with known terrorists, it will snow ball into MORE captures for negotiation. |
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Location: Southern IL somewhere between KY and MO | IMHO the Commander in Chief committed treason doing this he needs to be held accountable and impeached. I am so tired of this mess. It scares me what these freed men will do now. I am sure they are not just planning a nice 4th of July picnic. |
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | Well he did campaign saying he would empty and close Gitmo...just didn't think he'd do it by capitulating with terrorists in exchange for a deserter that declared his disdain for the US military in an email shortly before he was "captured". While inprisoned he drank tea and taught his captors to play badminton...while some of his brothers in arms died trying to free him.
This has "really bad idea" written all over it. Forgive my cynical nature...but I'm guessing these fine gentlemen will not be going back with an improved opinion of us...nor will they be grateful for release. They have had plenty of time to plot and plan revenge. And this idiot in chief will no doubt blame someone else if the worst happens and it's learned that any of these guys were involved.
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Location: Dubach, LA | geronabean - 2014-06-02 10:13 AM We are bringing home a terrorist to live among us. What a disgrace to those who live and die defending our country.
THIS. He should be tried for treason. Of course, Obama gets away with it. |
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| A true prisoner of war is one who gets taken from the battle field as a prisoner, not one that walked away from his camp, against orders, in the middle of the night , only to be picked up on the road by the enemy. The real unjustice here is going to be if the Army does not deal with him like they would any other deserter. Oh, but I bet Obama will not hear of that. What this does is make every American all over the world a target, not just the military. I'm sure the Taliban think this is too good to be true. I'm sure they're planning their first kidnapping right now. This was only a smoke screen to get our attention off of the VA scandal. But I'm going to bet the fall out from this prisoner exchange will not hit until we get into the next administration, and Obama will never be blamed. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I really wonder if there isn't more to this story. These 5 guys sound like very high level Taliban operatives. To me, that is very conspicuous. There are ways of implanting tracking devices in these men without their knowing it. Assuming this is the case, these guys could lead us to many other high level leaders. Maybe this sounds too far fetched, but the level of sophisticated technology that is being used by our intelligence operatives has to be mind-boggling. If these 5 can be tracked, it's not hard to imagine how useful that could prove to be. |
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| I have mixed feelings too, definetly not a black and white case of a soldier captured during combat. I do not know the accuracy of this, but it is all over the internet:
SIGN UP FOR UPDATES FROM ALLEN. SUBMIT Bergdahl’s father’s deleted tweet a smoking gun?Share! Share24K Tweet1.8K 131 Email344 Share27.5K Take a look at this tweet from released Army SGT Bowe Bergdahl’s father — which has since disappeared from his account.
Folks, this is either a very bad case of Stockholm Syndrome or something far more nefarious is at stake. Regardless, there is more to this than meets the eye of Obama making a unilateral decision and announcement on a Saturday — when he believes no one is watching.
This is not just going to slip away and we’re not going to get caught up in the emotion of Bergdahl’s release. He wasn’t “captured” — he deserted his assigned post.
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Read more at http://allenbwest.com/2014/06/bergdahls-fathers-deleted-tweet-smoki...
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | HotbearLVR - 2014-06-02 11:41 AM I really wonder if there isn't more to this story. These 5 guys sound like very high level Taliban operatives. To me, that is very conspicuous. There are ways of implanting tracking devices in these men without their knowing it. Assuming this is the case, these guys could lead us to many other high level leaders. Maybe this sounds too far fetched, but the level of sophisticated technology that is being used by our intelligence operatives has to be mind-boggling. If these 5 can be tracked, it's not hard to imagine how useful that could prove to be.
Obama would need intelligence to do this and we all know Obama doesn't have any intelligence and has himself surrounded by a ship of fools. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | rodeomom3 - 2014-06-02 11:55 AM I have mixed feelings too, definetly not a black and white case of a soldier captured during combat. I do not know the accuracy of this, but it is all over the internet:
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Take a look at this tweet from released Army SGT Bowe Bergdahl’s father — which has since disappeared from his account.
Folks, this is either a very bad case of Stockholm Syndrome or something far more nefarious is at stake. Regardless, there is more to this than meets the eye of Obama making a unilateral decision and announcement on a Saturday — when he believes no one is watching.
This is not just going to slip away and we’re not going to get caught up in the emotion of Bergdahl’s release. He wasn’t “captured” — he deserted his assigned post.
Tags: Bowe Bergdahl
Read more at http://allenbwest.com/2014/06/bergdahls-fathers-deleted-tweet-smoki...
This turns my stomach..
I watched the press conference with is parents and after all of the BS...They said they hadn't spoken with their son. Really? This throws up red flags to me. The father said it's going to be a slow process to let their son get use to being home and they don't know if he can even speak English anymore. Sounds like an excuse and this family is dysfunctional. Any mother I know would have been on a plane to Germany to see their son. |
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| Nevertooold - 2014-06-02 12:05 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-06-02 11:55 AM I have mixed feelings too, definetly not a black and white case of a soldier captured during combat. I do not know the accuracy of this, but it is all over the internet:
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Take a look at this tweet from released Army SGT Bowe Bergdahl’s father — which has since disappeared from his account.
Folks, this is either a very bad case of Stockholm Syndrome or something far more nefarious is at stake. Regardless, there is more to this than meets the eye of Obama making a unilateral decision and announcement on a Saturday — when he believes no one is watching.
This is not just going to slip away and we’re not going to get caught up in the emotion of Bergdahl’s release. He wasn’t “captured” — he deserted his assigned post.
Tags: Bowe Bergdahl
Read more at http://allenbwest.com/2014/06/bergdahls-fathers-deleted-tweet-smoki...
I watched the press conference with is parents and after all of the BS...They said they hadn't spoken with their son. Really? This throws up red flags to me. The father said it's going to be a slow process to let their son get use to being home and they don't know if he can even speak English anymore. Sounds like an excuse and this family is dysfunctional. Any mother I know would have been on a plane to Germany to see their son.
I agree, strange beyond words. You forget your language in 5 years- wierd statements and actions. |
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Location: Arkansas | rodeomom3 - 2014-06-02 11:55 AM I have mixed feelings too, definetly not a black and white case of a soldier captured during combat. I do not know the accuracy of this, but it is all over the internet:
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Take a look at this tweet from released Army SGT Bowe Bergdahl’s father — which has since disappeared from his account.
Folks, this is either a very bad case of Stockholm Syndrome or something far more nefarious is at stake. Regardless, there is more to this than meets the eye of Obama making a unilateral decision and announcement on a Saturday — when he believes no one is watching.
This is not just going to slip away and we’re not going to get caught up in the emotion of Bergdahl’s release. He wasn’t “captured” — he deserted his assigned post.
Tags: Bowe Bergdahl
Read more at http://allenbwest.com/2014/06/bergdahls-fathers-deleted-tweet-smoki...
There will be all kinds of "information" on every internet and new's site. everyone claiming to be in the "know". Accurate or inaccurate. Just take with a grain of salt.
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Location: NC | He's a traitor. A deserter. Who is "ashamed to be American". Guys who were over there when it happened, within his unit and beyond, have all said the exact same thing: HE DESERTED HIS POST WHILE ON DUTY. He left his post!!! He endangered the lives of everyone on that base. THEN we lost 6 men trying to look for his nasty disgusting cowardly self.
There are far better ways to go about getting out of a deployment than to just walk away. If he was really a true POW, they would've killed him. Because he would have resisted! But being as his entire family is very un-American, my guess is he didn't even put up a fight. Went along with everything.
It was their plan all along. They get 5 "leaders", he gets to be hailed as a hero. I wonder when/what he will attack when he gets back to the States. He's probably a recruit of theirs. That's my thoughts. |
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Location: Buffalo, TX | Another case of us normal citizens just having to sit back and do nothing while this dictator makes his own decisions bypassing congress...therefore, ignoring the rights of the representatives we voted into office to speak for us, as well as ignoring the checks and balances our government has in place to avoid a situation exactly like this one.... |
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Location: Washington | HotbearLVR - 2014-06-02 9:41 AM I really wonder if there isn't more to this story. These 5 guys sound like very high level Taliban operatives. To me, that is very conspicuous. There are ways of implanting tracking devices in these men without their knowing it. Assuming this is the case, these guys could lead us to many other high level leaders. Maybe this sounds too far fetched, but the level of sophisticated technology that is being used by our intelligence operatives has to be mind-boggling. If these 5 can be tracked, it's not hard to imagine how useful that could prove to be.
That is a big IF, but the same words that came out of my husbands mouth. He wasn't sure Obama would have the balls to order it, and lets not forget these 5 are probably the highest ranking leaders of the Taliban and we had them already, they will not lead us anywhere, but they will have the ability to order attacks and mastermind the death of many.
As far as this taking away from the VA deal, let's not forget the VA has been a mess as long as we can remember, I cannot blame Obama for it's mess, it has been a long time in the making.
I am thrilled that most of America has it's eye on this Bergdahl release....it makes zero sense, unless your the family who has been praying for it. Some of the stuff I am reading makes me hope they go into hiding for awhile, there are some very p issed off Americans.
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Some uproar is deserved, but to me honestly, its just the media's way to make a month's worth of advertising dollars $$$$$ by screaming negativity to the masses.
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| fatchance - 2014-06-02 9:56 AM uno-dos-tres! - 2014-06-02 7:44 AM LIVID! I've worked and trained with our troops. I know that many are not happy at all on this situation. I sure wonder what will happen to Bowe on his return to US soil? He will come home with guilt.....he and only he knows what he did that night and why. I want to hear what he has to say.....Those who have served with him are telling their story, it's not a positive one.
I am probably hearing and reading the same stories you are FG. I am beyond livid.
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Forwarded from XXXXXX. "We were at OP Mest, Paktika Province, Afghanistan. It was a small outpost where B Co 1-501st INF (Airbone) ran operations out of, just an Infantry platoon and ANA counterparts there. The place was an Afghan graveyard. Bergdahl had been acting a little strange, telling people he wanted to "walk the earth" and kept a little journal talking about how he was meant for better things. No one thought anything about it. He was a little “out there”. Next morning he's gone. We search everywhere, and can't find him. He left his weapon, his kit, and other sensitive items. He only took some water, a compass and a knife. We find some afghan kids shortly after who saw an american walking north asking about where the taliban are. We get hits on our voice intercepter that Taliban has him, and we were close. We come to realize that the kid deserted his post, snuck out of camp and sought out Taliban… to join them. We were in a defensive position at OP Mest, where your focus is to keep people out. He knew where the blind spots were to slip out and that's what he did. It was supposed to be a 4-day mission but turned into several months of active searching. Everyone was spun up to find this guy. News outlets all over the country were putting out false information. It was hard to see, especially when we knew the truth about what happened and we lost good men trying to find him. PFC Matthew Michael Martinek, Staff Sgt. Kurt Robert Curtiss, SSG Clayton Bowen, PFC Morris Walker, SSG Michael Murphrey, 2LT Darryn Andrews, were all KIA from our unit who died looking for Bergdahl. Many others from various units were wounded or killed while actively looking for Bergdahl. Fighting Increased. IEDs and enemy ambushes increased. The Taliban knew that we were looking for him in high numbers and our movements were predictable. Because of Bergdahl, more men were out in danger, and more attacks on friendly camps and positions were conducted while we were out looking for him. His actions impacted the region more than anyone wants to admit. There is also no way to know what he told the Taliban: Our movements, locations, tactics, weak points on vehicles and other things for the enemy to exploit are just a few possibilities. The Government knows full well that he deserted. It looks bad and is a good propaganda piece for the Taliban. They refuse to acknowledge it. Hell they even promoted him to Sergeant which makes me sick. I feel for his family who only want their son/brother back. They don’t know the truth, or refuse to acknowledge it as well. What he did affected his family and his whole town back home, who don’t know the truth. Either way what matters is that good men died because of him. He has been lying on all those Taliban videos about everything since his “capture”. If he ever returns, he should be tried under the UCMJ for being a deserter and judged for what he did. Bergdahl is not a hero, he is not a soldier or an Infantryman. He failed his brothers. Now, sons and daughters are growing up without their fathers who died for him and he will have to face that truth someday." The men that wrote this post were there. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Gail, Thanks for posting the above. |
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| fatchance - 2014-06-03 7:56 AM uno-dos-tres! - 2014-06-02 7:44 AM LIVID! I've worked and trained with our troops. I know that many are not happy at all on this situation. I sure wonder what will happen to Bowe on his return to US soil? He will come home with guilt.....he and only he knows what he did that night and why. I want to hear what he has to say.....Those who have served with him are telling their story, it's not a positive one.
Unless you speak the language in afafanastan you won't understand he's refusing to speak english! Send him back he hates the u.s |
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| Did John McCain forget how to speak English after 6 yrs of hearing only Vietnamese? Hardly, this is some kind of cooked up deal and like every other Obama scandal, the only answers we'll ever get is lies!! I saw a report last night that said, get this, without even yet seeing their son, or hearing his voice, they are sure there will probably be at least two books about this. Seems like they're seeing $$$$$$ |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | fatchance - 2014-06-01 10:56 AM uno-dos-tres! - 2014-06-02 7:44 AM LIVID! I've worked and trained with our troops. I know that many are not happy at all on this situation. I sure wonder what will happen to Bowe on his return to US soil? He will come home with guilt.....he and only he knows what he did that night and why. I want to hear what he has to say.....Those who have served with him are telling their story, it's not a positive one.
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Location: Broxton, Ga | And how about the father of the released traitor praising ALLAH at his White House speech? And first words in Arabic.....? |
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-06-02 11:41 AM
I really wonder if there isn't more to this story. These 5 guys sound like very high level Taliban operatives. To me, that is very conspicuous. There are ways of implanting tracking devices in these men without their knowing it. Assuming this is the case, these guys could lead us to many other high level leaders. Maybe this sounds too far fetched, but the level of sophisticated technology that is being used by our intelligence operatives has to be mind-boggling. If these 5 can be tracked, it's not hard to imagine how useful that could prove to be.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Assuming these guys can be traced, it would provide immensely valuable information on the whereabouts of terrorist hideouts, their patterns, and innumerable associates. If all 5 of these guys were whacked, for sure someone else would step up and fill their shoes. If they are alive they could be much more valuable. I'm just speculating here because in matters like this I believe all isn't what it appears to be in situations like this. Basically, these guys could unwittingly serve as double agents working for us. For instance, let's say a given "tagged" terrorist is tracked to a hotel in Zurich, and CIA operatives photograph him with other men who are then themselves followed.....ultimately back to the US. That could lead to the uncovering of terrorist "cells" right here at home, already in the process of plotting attacks....possibly the next big one. It would seem to me that the widespread outrage that follows the "release" of these terrorists would serve to motivate the terrorists to get the former GITMO detainees back in the game, sooner, rather than later.....sort of as a thumb in the eye of the US, and our allies. I think this could end up being a brilliant move, but I doubt it would be the result of Obama's imagination. He would just go along with it.
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Location: oklahoma | coco~n~cash - 2014-06-02 10:58 AM IMHO the Commander in Chief committed treason doing this he needs to be held accountable and impeached. I am so tired of this mess. It scares me what these freed men will do now. I am sure they are not just planning a nice 4th of July picnic.
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| Gail - 2014-06-02 11:33 AM
Forwarded from XXXXXX. "We were at OP Mest, Paktika Province, Afghanistan. It was a small outpost where B Co 1-501st INF (Airbone) ran operations out of, just an Infantry platoon and ANA counterparts there. The place was an Afghan graveyard. Bergdahl had been acting a little strange, telling people he wanted to "walk the earth" and kept a little journal talking about how he was meant for better things. No one thought anything about it. He was a little “out there”. Next morning he's gone. We search everywhere, and can't find him. He left his weapon, his kit, and other sensitive items. He only took some water, a compass and a knife. We find some afghan kids shortly after who saw an american walking north asking about where the taliban are. We get hits on our voice intercepter that Taliban has him, and we were close. We come to realize that the kid deserted his post, snuck out of camp and sought out Taliban… to join them. We were in a defensive position at OP Mest, where your focus is to keep people out. He knew where the blind spots were to slip out and that's what he did. It was supposed to be a 4-day mission but turned into several months of active searching. Everyone was spun up to find this guy. News outlets all over the country were putting out false information. It was hard to see, especially when we knew the truth about what happened and we lost good men trying to find him. PFC Matthew Michael Martinek, Staff Sgt. Kurt Robert Curtiss, SSG Clayton Bowen, PFC Morris Walker, SSG Michael Murphrey, 2LT Darryn Andrews, were all KIA from our unit who died looking for Bergdahl. Many others from various units were wounded or killed while actively looking for Bergdahl. Fighting Increased. IEDs and enemy ambushes increased. The Taliban knew that we were looking for him in high numbers and our movements were predictable. Because of Bergdahl, more men were out in danger, and more attacks on friendly camps and positions were conducted while we were out looking for him. His actions impacted the region more than anyone wants to admit. There is also no way to know what he told the Taliban: Our movements, locations, tactics, weak points on vehicles and other things for the enemy to exploit are just a few possibilities. The Government knows full well that he deserted. It looks bad and is a good propaganda piece for the Taliban. They refuse to acknowledge it. Hell they even promoted him to Sergeant which makes me sick. I feel for his family who only want their son/brother back. They don’t know the truth, or refuse to acknowledge it as well. What he did affected his family and his whole town back home, who don’t know the truth. Either way what matters is that good men died because of him. He has been lying on all those Taliban videos about everything since his “capture”. If he ever returns, he should be tried under the UCMJ for being a deserter and judged for what he did. Bergdahl is not a hero, he is not a soldier or an Infantryman. He failed his brothers. Now, sons and daughters are growing up without their fathers who died for him and he will have to face that truth someday." The men that wrote this post were there.
Thank you Gail, for this post. What I want to know is who dislikes this post and how can you dislike the truth? |
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Location: Texas | Bergdahl is a traitor and a deserter. He abandoned his post and is responsible for the deaths of many members of the armed forces. I have no respect for him, and I have no respect for his family. I have many more thoughts and very strong opinions in regards to Bergdahl, his family, and the Commander in Chief and would love to offer them but will not due to my own affiliation in the armed forces.
One last note, he does not even come close to deserving the title of 'hero' that so many people have naively bestowed upon him. Bergdahl is no better than the lowest scum on the earth.
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Location: Bandera, TX | BarrelRacing4Christ - 2014-06-02 3:56 PM Bergdahl is a traitor and a deserter. He abandoned his post and is responsible for the deaths of many members of the armed forces. I have no respect for him, and I have no respect for his family. I have many more thoughts and very strong opinions on the matter and would love to offer them but will not due to my own affiliation in the armed forces. One last note, he does not even come close to deserving the title of 'hero' that so many people have naively bestowed upon him. Bergdahl is no better than the lowest scum on the earth.
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My only thought is that America does NOT negotiate. It has worked for generations and our fore fathers honored that.
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I still cannot wrap one brain cell around the fact that he will not face any charges when he comes home. This has me baffled. HE should be held accountable for his actions. He has recieved two promotions while being held, which is S.O.P, but what if he decides he wants to stay in the military?
This whole deal just doesn't make sense!!!!!
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | brlraceaddict - 2014-06-02 3:27 PM Gail - 2014-06-02 11:33 AM
Forwarded from XXXXXX. "We were at OP Mest, Paktika Province, Afghanistan. It was a small outpost where B Co 1-501st INF (Airbone) ran operations out of, just an Infantry platoon and ANA counterparts there. The place was an Afghan graveyard. Bergdahl had been acting a little strange, telling people he wanted to "walk the earth" and kept a little journal talking about how he was meant for better things. No one thought anything about it. He was a little “out there”. Next morning he's gone. We search everywhere, and can't find him. He left his weapon, his kit, and other sensitive items. He only took some water, a compass and a knife. We find some afghan kids shortly after who saw an american walking north asking about where the taliban are. We get hits on our voice intercepter that Taliban has him, and we were close. We come to realize that the kid deserted his post, snuck out of camp and sought out Taliban… to join them. We were in a defensive position at OP Mest, where your focus is to keep people out. He knew where the blind spots were to slip out and that's what he did. It was supposed to be a 4-day mission but turned into several months of active searching. Everyone was spun up to find this guy. News outlets all over the country were putting out false information. It was hard to see, especially when we knew the truth about what happened and we lost good men trying to find him. PFC Matthew Michael Martinek, Staff Sgt. Kurt Robert Curtiss, SSG Clayton Bowen, PFC Morris Walker, SSG Michael Murphrey, 2LT Darryn Andrews, were all KIA from our unit who died looking for Bergdahl. Many others from various units were wounded or killed while actively looking for Bergdahl. Fighting Increased. IEDs and enemy ambushes increased. The Taliban knew that we were looking for him in high numbers and our movements were predictable. Because of Bergdahl, more men were out in danger, and more attacks on friendly camps and positions were conducted while we were out looking for him. His actions impacted the region more than anyone wants to admit. There is also no way to know what he told the Taliban: Our movements, locations, tactics, weak points on vehicles and other things for the enemy to exploit are just a few possibilities. The Government knows full well that he deserted. It looks bad and is a good propaganda piece for the Taliban. They refuse to acknowledge it. Hell they even promoted him to Sergeant which makes me sick. I feel for his family who only want their son/brother back. They don’t know the truth, or refuse to acknowledge it as well. What he did affected his family and his whole town back home, who don’t know the truth. Either way what matters is that good men died because of him. He has been lying on all those Taliban videos about everything since his “capture”. If he ever returns, he should be tried under the UCMJ for being a deserter and judged for what he did. Bergdahl is not a hero, he is not a soldier or an Infantryman. He failed his brothers. Now, sons and daughters are growing up without their fathers who died for him and he will have to face that truth someday." The men that wrote this post were there. Thank you Gail, for this post. What I want to know is who dislikes this post and how can you dislike the truth?
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | fatchance - 2014-06-02 4:13 PM So many strong opinions.
I still cannot wrap one brain cell around the fact that he will not face any charges when he comes home. This has me baffled. HE should be held accountable for his actions. He has recieved two promotions while being held, which is S.O.P, but what if he decides he wants to stay in the military?
This whole deal just doesn't make sense!!!!!
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Location: Displaced Iowegian | Nevertooold - 2014-06-02 4:41 PM fatchance - 2014-06-02 4:13 PM So many strong opinions.
I still cannot wrap one brain cell around the fact that he will not face any charges when he comes home. This has me baffled. HE should be held accountable for his actions. He has recieved two promotions while being held, which is S.O.P, but what if he decides he wants to stay in the military?
This whole deal just doesn't make sense!!!!!
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Location: n.c. | He is a deserter! He just did it in such a way that he wouldn't be court martialed. Pansy. And he won't be charged with desertion when he gets home either. Crock! Big fat crock! |
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| Imagine the grapes you have to have to bypass Federal law, trade a deserter for terrorist and then announce to the country what a flipping hero you are for your ability to arrange such a horrendous action?
Praying for Palin to get pzzed enough to jump in when Hillary does. Our goose is cooked if we don't get someone that can rally up this country and it will take a highly charismatic enigma to do this. LIke or nor not, nobody else can get an entire country to listen to them the way she can.
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Location: North Texas | ergdahl's controversial disappearance costs American Servicemen's Lives. And all the circumstances surrounding this individual are NOT in favor of Bergdahl.
Also, Obama broke His Own Legislation by withholding information from Congress. Per reports I have read, The Adminstration had the idea of Replicating Reagan's Release of The Iranian Hostages in 1980. Obiviously this has NOT been the case. And is most likely the nail in Obama's Coffin that will bring about Impeachment Proceedings. Years too late as far am I concerned.
And I believe Bergdahl's Unit Members in regards to the circumstances surrounding His Disappearance. Deserters are Court Marshaled! |
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Location: Dubach, LA | foundation horse - 2014-06-02 7:11 PM ergdahl's controversial disappearance costs American Servicemen's Lives. And all the circumstances surrounding this individual are NOT in favor of Bergdahl.
Also, Obama broke His Own Legislation by withholding information from Congress. Per reports I have read, The Adminstration had the idea of Replicating Reagan's Release of The Iranian Hostages in 1980. Obiviously this has NOT been the case. And is most likely the nail in Obama's Coffin that will bring about Impeachment Proceedings. Years too late as far am I concerned.
And I believe Bergdahl's Unit Members in regards to the circumstances surrounding His Disappearance. Deserters are Court Marshaled!
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Location: NC | foundation horse - 2014-06-02 8:11 PM
ergdahl's controversial disappearance costs American Servicemen's Lives. And all the circumstances surrounding this individual are NOT in favor of Bergdahl.
Also, Obama broke His Own Legislation by withholding information from Congress. Per reports I have read, The Adminstration had the idea of Replicating Reagan's Release of The Iranian Hostages in 1980. Obiviously this has NOT been the case. And is most likely the nail in Obama's Coffin that will bring about Impeachment Proceedings. Years too late as far am I concerned.
And I believe Bergdahl's Unit Members in regards to the circumstances surrounding His Disappearance. Deserters are Court Marshaled!
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Location: Friendswood, Texas | We'll be seeing those five terrorists again. And it wouldn't surprise me if that missing Malaysian airliner is involved when we do....
I am praying for the safety of America and her soldiers. God help us all. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | FriendswoodKat - 2014-06-02 8:10 PM We'll be seeing those five terrorists again. And it wouldn't surprise me if that missing Malaysian airliner is involved when we do.... I am praying for the safety of America and her soldiers. God help us all.
Yep! This was my thoughts exactly! These 5 will be back and it wouldnt suprise me one bit that Obama chose those specific 5 in a deal so he can impliment marshal law when they unleash more mayham that makes 9-11 look like a warm up drill. |
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Location: North Texas | ThreeCorners - 2014-06-02 8:40 PM FriendswoodKat - 2014-06-02 8:10 PM We'll be seeing those five terrorists again. And it wouldn't surprise me if that missing Malaysian airliner is involved when we do.... I am praying for the safety of America and her soldiers. God help us all. Yep! This was my thoughts exactly! These 5 will be back and it wouldnt suprise me one bit that Obama chose those specific 5 in a deal so he can impliment marshal law when they unleash more mayham that makes 9-11 look like a warm up drill.
Martial/Marshal Law will difficult to implement upon an armed society. Hence the idea behind gun control/grabbing.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | And once again Susan Rice is on TV spewing more BS. I couldn't believe when she called him a hero. |
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Location: Florida.. | Nevertooold - 2014-06-02 11:07 PM And once again Susan Rice is on TV spewing more BS. I couldn't believe when she called him a hero.
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Location: South Dakota | Bibliafarm - 2014-06-02 10:08 PM Nevertooold - 2014-06-02 11:07 PM And once again Susan Rice is on TV spewing more BS. I couldn't believe when she called him a hero.
I feel the same way...it turns my stomach ...the whole bunch of them... |
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Location: your guess is as good as mine | Bibliafarm - 2014-06-02 9:22 AM he is of Muslim faith..
and the washington men do nothing but alllow this.. what is this relation to carney stepping down anyone know or does it?
This^^.
There's too much not making sense about all of this...like RSS said - we haven't cared about this guy for 5 years. Why now? One thing I have learned is that Obama does NOTHING that does not benefit Obama. He couldn't care less about our soldiers, the military, America itself - except in relation to how it benefits him. So how does he gain from this? He's no longer worried about popularity...he's a lame duck president - he knows this is it, short of setting himself up as dictator. So what is his end game?
The naive part of me - the part that grew up watching "Scarecrow & Mrs King" and other spy shows wants to believe that this was an elaborate set up from the beginning. A way to plant an American soldier in the Taliban to maybe learn their secrets...a way to track these leaders that were released in hopes of finally bringing down the Taliban once and for all.
The far-too-cynical part of me - the part that has taken over more & more of my psyche since Obama was first elected - wonders if we haven't just invited the fox back into the henhouse. Wonders if we haven't just declared open season on every American now that the whole world realizes that Obama will indeed negotiate with terrorists & will bypass Congress if need be.
All I know is that I don't trust anyone in Washington right now - Democrat or Republican. I know that I don't trust the civilian (I refuse to call him a soldier) that we're getting back...anymore than I trust the 5 Taliban officers that were released. I know that I respectfully disagree with those that claim it's just the media stirring up sh**...a precedent has been set with this - a very dangerous precedent.
And yes...I believe that the President committed treason and should be impeached - but unlike FH I also believe that it will never happen. I "believe" more...but I think I've ranted enough.  |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Did anybody catch the interview with the father where he said he son was a Hero, he's proud of him for wanting to help the Afganastan children? |
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Location: SE Louisiana | Lobo - 2014-06-02 9:43 AM
So do I. But I'm going to wait until there
is more reliable information out. So far it sounds like a bunch of sour grapes.
I do take exception to the member's of Congress squalling because they weren't notified before the hand off. I suppose they wanted to debate it for a few weeks. They couldn't get anything done without debate even if their pant's were on fire!
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| HotbearLVR - 2014-06-02 11:41 AM I really wonder if there isn't more to this story. These 5 guys sound like very high level Taliban operatives. To me, that is very conspicuous. There are ways of implanting tracking devices in these men without their knowing it. Assuming this is the case, these guys could lead us to many other high level leaders. Maybe this sounds too far fetched, but the level of sophisticated technology that is being used by our intelligence operatives has to be mind-boggling. If these 5 can be tracked, it's not hard to imagine how useful that could prove to be.
I really can't imagine Obama being willing to do it though..........I think this is the most offensive , unbelievable, and indefensive thing he has done. CRAZY! I really think his goal is to bring America down |
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Location: North of the 49th Parallel | I thought that the 5 Taliban officials were released to the Qatar government? Still doesn't really change the fact that the American government negotiated with terrorists. |
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| I love my country but I SURE do NOT love, nor trust the government who APPEARS to be batting for the other side. Sorry, but I think our prez is nothing short of a terrorist himself. |
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Location: Kansas | Now our pathetic excuse for a president is in Warsaw, Poland, trying to explain to their press why he turned loose five high-level war criminals. He didn't bother to talk to our media but did add to his conversation that these five may very well return to terror activities. Good job Barack.
Interestingly, the far left lunatic Chris Matthews (yes I went crazy and watched MSNBC for five minutes) is totally outraged over this trade.
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| Consider the backlash going on here. They had to have known ... this was done for a reason and this story is just beginning to play out. Evil Manipulative Magicians |
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| RidenFly - 2014-06-03 6:33 AM Consider the backlash going on here. They had to have known ... this was done for a reason and this story is just beginning to play out. Evil Manipulative Magicians
and the spin continues....
How Jay Carney Is Explaining Why the Berkdahl Swap Wasn’t Negotiating With TerroristsSpeaking Monday morning on CNN, White House press secretary Jay Carney was asked if the United States negoatiated with terrorists in releasing five Guantanamo Bay detainees in exchange for the release of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.  White House press secretary Jay Carney (AP Photo ) Carney, who is in his waning days as press secretary, noted that securing Berghahl’s release was urgent because of his deterirorating health after being in captivity for five years by the Taliban. CNN anchor Chris Cuomo asked Carney, “Why not just call this what it was? You negotiated with these terrorists because he is a prisoner of war and you have this pledge of leaving no man or women behind?”Carney objected to the characterization.“The fact is he was held in an armed conflict with the Taliban,” Carney said. “We were engaged in an armed conflict with the Taliban, and we have a history in this country of making sure that our prisoners of war are returned to us.” “He was not a hostage, he was a prisoner,” Carney continued. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2014-06-04 4:44 AM RidenFly - 2014-06-03 6:33 AM Consider the backlash going on here. They had to have known ... this was done for a reason and this story is just beginning to play out. Evil Manipulative Magicians and the spin continues....
How Jay Carney Is Explaining Why the Berkdahl Swap Wasn’t Negotiating With Terrorists
Speaking Monday morning on CNN, White House press secretary Jay Carney was asked if the United States negoatiated with terrorists in releasing five Guantanamo Bay detainees in exchange for the release of Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.
White House press secretary Jay Carney (AP Photo )
Carney, not surprisingly said no, and relied on definititions to explain why.
“He was not a hostage,” Carney said of Bergdahl. “He was a prisoner.”
Carney, who is in his waning days as press secretary, noted that securing Berghahl’s release was urgent because of his deterirorating health after being in captivity for five years by the Taliban.
CNN anchor Chris Cuomo asked Carney, “Why not just call this what it was? You negotiated with these terrorists because he is a prisoner of war and you have this pledge of leaving no man or women behind?”
Carney objected to the characterization.
“The fact is he was held in an armed conflict with the Taliban,” Carney said. “We were engaged in an armed conflict with the Taliban, and we have a history in this country of making sure that our prisoners of war are returned to us.”
“He was not a hostage, he was a prisoner,” Carney continued.
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Location: Online | Here's my two cents.....
I thought when he was "taken" 5 years ago that he turned, he walked off post looking for them. The story was just too fishy. He's a turncoat, plain and simple. Now our treasonous Narcissist in Chief has traded this terrorist sympathizer for 5 of the scariest Taliban leaders? Really?
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Location: Online | As I was reading through posts, I see someone is disliking a lot of comments. I think that dislike stalker needs to speak up and explain to us what part of these comments deserves the dislikes. I have not read one comment that defends Obama or Bergdahl, yet someone is obviously opposed to the negative comments against them.
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Location: Florida.. | rodeomom13 - 2014-06-03 10:38 AM As I was reading through posts, I see someone is disliking a lot of comments. I think that dislike stalker needs to speak up and explain to us what part of these comments deserves the dislikes. I have not read one comment that defends Obama or Bergdahl, yet someone is obviously opposed to the negative comments against them.
someone that likes to sit behind a keyboard and do things to try to stir issues.LOL... instead of speaking their own mind. |
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Location: Online | Bibliafarm - 2014-06-03 8:51 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-06-03 10:38 AM As I was reading through posts, I see someone is disliking a lot of comments. I think that dislike stalker needs to speak up and explain to us what part of these comments deserves the dislikes. I have not read one comment that defends Obama or Bergdahl, yet someone is obviously opposed to the negative comments against them.
someone that likes to sit behind a keyboard and do things to try to stir issues.LOL... instead of speaking their own mind.
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| CYA Ranch - 2014-06-02 10:37 AM My husband and I talked a little about this topic this morning watching GMA. I either missed the part where he was a deserter or they didn't touch on that on the broadcast. If he was a deserter than I have a huge problem with this and the fact that 6 soldiers lost their lives looking for him plus they released 5? prisoners that we had in exchange for this guy. If he was a true prisoner of war then that would shed a little different light on this for me.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bibliafarm - 2014-06-03 9:51 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-06-03 10:38 AM As I was reading through posts, I see someone is disliking a lot of comments. I think that dislike stalker needs to speak up and explain to us what part of these comments deserves the dislikes. I have not read one comment that defends Obama or Bergdahl, yet someone is obviously opposed to the negative comments against them.
someone that likes to sit behind a keyboard and do things to try to stir issues.LOL... instead of speaking their own mind.
This is their way of joining in the conversation, they are to chicken poop to say what they are wanting to say so they just hit the dislike |
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Location: Kansas | rodeomom13 - 2014-06-03 9:38 AM As I was reading through posts, I see someone is disliking a lot of comments. I think that dislike stalker needs to speak up and explain to us what part of these comments deserves the dislikes. I have not read one comment that defends Obama or Bergdahl, yet someone is obviously opposed to the negative comments against them.
That's easy.............liberal coward.
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Location: Where I am happiest | I also, ( Givin the Muslims history ) cant figure out a good up n up reason they kept this guy, and kept him alive for 5 years instead of be-heading him like they always have done in the past. They hate American's, and are out to irradicate all "Infidels". |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | rodeomom13 - 2014-06-03 9:38 AM
As I was reading through posts, I see someone is disliking a lot of comments. I think that dislike stalker needs to speak up and explain to us what part of these comments deserves the dislikes. I have not read one comment that defends Obama or Bergdahl, yet someone is obviously opposed to the negative comments against them.
I wouldn't put much stock in the "like"/"dislike" buttons anyway. I have a "dislike" stalker who would dislike my comments, regardless of their content.
If I said "God bless America" she would hit dislike. Ignore them. If you react, then they are amused, but if you don't react, they don't get as much satisfaction. |
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Location: North Dakota | HotbearLVR - 2014-06-03 11:32 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-06-03 9:38 AM As I was reading through posts, I see someone is disliking a lot of comments. I think that dislike stalker needs to speak up and explain to us what part of these comments deserves the dislikes. I have not read one comment that defends Obama or Bergdahl, yet someone is obviously opposed to the negative comments against them.
I wouldn't put much stock in the "like"/"dislike" buttons anyway. I have a "dislike" stalker who would dislike my comments, regardless of their content. If I said "God bless America" she would hit dislike. Ignore them. If you react, then they are amused, but if you don't react, they don't get as much satisfaction.
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| Just Bring It - 2014-06-03 11:41 AM HotbearLVR - 2014-06-03 11:32 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-06-03 9:38 AM As I was reading through posts, I see someone is disliking a lot of comments. I think that dislike stalker needs to speak up and explain to us what part of these comments deserves the dislikes. I have not read one comment that defends Obama or Bergdahl, yet someone is obviously opposed to the negative comments against them.
I wouldn't put much stock in the "like"/"dislike" buttons anyway. I have a "dislike" stalker who would dislike my comments, regardless of their content. If I said "God bless America" she would hit dislike. Ignore them. If you react, then they are amused, but if you don't react, they don't get as much satisfaction.
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That was just heart wrenching to read. I would love to think there was a "bigger plan" to all of this as some of you have mentioned but I just don't think this administration is that smart. I still believe Obama has always had plans to destroy this country and now I'm afraid all Americans are fair game now that we are negotiating with terrorists. I hope that all of the families involved in this are able to fine peace. |
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Location: Washington | TXBO - 2014-06-03 10:56 AM Anybody have any insight as to whether we can expect a court martial?
Who gets to make that decision?
Bergdahl still belongs to his unit. It will be up to the Battalion commander to start the procedure. I hope he has to get in line. |
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Location: In a happy place | missroselee - 2014-06-02 4:08 PM I don't have time to sit down and read all the posts....
My only thought is that America does NOT negotiate. It has worked for generations and our fore fathers honored that.
Our Commander in Cheif.....well.....God help us all.....
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Location: Online | Griz - 2014-06-03 11:00 AM Just Bring It - 2014-06-03 11:41 AM HotbearLVR - 2014-06-03 11:32 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-06-03 9:38 AM As I was reading through posts, I see someone is disliking a lot of comments. I think that dislike stalker needs to speak up and explain to us what part of these comments deserves the dislikes. I have not read one comment that defends Obama or Bergdahl, yet someone is obviously opposed to the negative comments against them.
I wouldn't put much stock in the "like"/"dislike" buttons anyway. I have a "dislike" stalker who would dislike my comments, regardless of their content. If I said "God bless America" she would hit dislike. Ignore them. If you react, then they are amused, but if you don't react, they don't get as much satisfaction.
Oh, I'm pretty sure I have one too, I'm sure it's the same person dislike stalking all of us, and I'm pretty sure I know who it is. It's just amusing, that's all. Sometimes I like to see just how many dislikes I can get, just for some entertainment. |
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| fatchance - 2014-06-03 1:03 PM TXBO - 2014-06-03 10:56 AM Anybody have any insight as to whether we can expect a court martial?
Who gets to make that decision? Bergdahl still belongs to his unit. It will be up to the Battalion commander to start the procedure. I hope he has to get in line.
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Location: Washington | TXBO - 2014-06-03 11:37 AM fatchance - 2014-06-03 1:03 PM TXBO - 2014-06-03 10:56 AM Anybody have any insight as to whether we can expect a court martial?
Who gets to make that decision? Bergdahl still belongs to his unit. It will be up to the Battalion commander to start the procedure. I hope he has to get in line.
My husband and I talked about this last night...and he said he would have used every inch of his power to take this guy down, the battalion commander that had him is now long gone, but Mitch felt he would be calling the current commander of the unit with first hand information.
IF military action doesn't take place to Bergdahl, if I was one of the surviving spouses,siblings,parents,etc of the six who lost their lives being sent out looking for him... I would be getting a lawyer.
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Location: ND | I will be interested in what comes out from this...esp in light about what comes out each day it seems......my preliminary opinion is that this guy should have never been traded for......esp not high value detainees.....of course....maybe it was a special intelligence mission and now the detainees are bugged and there will be drone strikes over the next few years killing more high value targets.....who knows....maybe this was the plan all along.....the little i know thus far, he seems like a disgrace to our country......but then again, i see Ed Snowden, as a patriot....... |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Just Bring It - 2014-06-03 11:41 AM HotbearLVR - 2014-06-03 11:32 AM rodeomom13 - 2014-06-03 9:38 AM As I was reading through posts, I see someone is disliking a lot of comments. I think that dislike stalker needs to speak up and explain to us what part of these comments deserves the dislikes. I have not read one comment that defends Obama or Bergdahl, yet someone is obviously opposed to the negative comments against them.
I wouldn't put much stock in the "like"/"dislike" buttons anyway. I have a "dislike" stalker who would dislike my comments, regardless of their content. If I said "God bless America" she would hit dislike. Ignore them. If you react, then they are amused, but if you don't react, they don't get as much satisfaction.
So do I and it makes me very proud.
If Obama was white he would have been impeached a long time ago. I see he has his lap dog, Susan Rice, spewing more BS. Proves she has shit for brains or is a very imcompetent pompous ass. |
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Location: relocated to Texas | Lobo - 2014-06-03 8:43 AM So do I. But I'm going to wait until there
is more reliable information out. So far it sounds like a bunch of sour grapes.
I do take exception to the member's of Congress squalling because they weren't notified before the hand off. I suppose they wanted to debate it for a few weeks. They couldn't get anything done without debate even if their pant's were on fire!
We have three branches of government, not a dictatorship. The three branches were designed as a safety net to guard against decisions being made by a power hungry ruler. This absolutely should have gone through Congress and it would have been shot down, I am betting. |
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Location: relocated to Texas | Nevertooold - 2014-06-03 10:59 AM HotbearLVR - 2014-06-02 11:41 AM I really wonder if there isn't more to this story. These 5 guys sound like very high level Taliban operatives. To me, that is very conspicuous. There are ways of implanting tracking devices in these men without their knowing it. Assuming this is the case, these guys could lead us to many other high level leaders. Maybe this sounds too far fetched, but the level of sophisticated technology that is being used by our intelligence operatives has to be mind-boggling. If these 5 can be tracked, it's not hard to imagine how useful that could prove to be. Obama would need intelligence to do this and we all know Obama doesn't have any intelligence and has himself surrounded by a ship of fools.
I truly believe Obama is not on our side. This was probably planned a long time ago. Clint Eastwood said it best when he said Obama was the greatest hoax ever seen played on the American people. It is a planned and plotted course of action to take America down. |
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Location: Arkansas | If it had been left up to the "Do-Nothings" we'd be debating Bergdahl's release into next year!
Ummm...Wasn't it Eastwood who talked to a chair? |
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Location: Where I am happiest | Lobo - 2014-06-03 2:51 PM If it had been left up to the "Do-Nothings" we'd be debating Bergdahl's release into next year!
Ummm...Wasn't it Eastwood who talked to a chair?
As we should be! Because his negotiated trade for release NEVER should have happened. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | dhdqhllc - 2014-06-03 2:20 PM I will be interested in what comes out from this...esp in light about what comes out each day it seems......my preliminary opinion is that this guy should have never been traded for......esp not high value detainees.....of course....maybe it was a special intelligence mission and now the detainees are bugged and there will be drone strikes over the next few years killing more high value targets.....who knows....maybe this was the plan all along.....the little i know thus far, he seems like a disgrace to our country......but then again, i see Ed Snowden, as a patriot.......
I think this is the first time I actually agree with everything you said. lol |
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Location: relocated to Texas | Lobo - 2014-06-04 1:51 PM If it had been left up to the "Do-Nothings" we'd be debating Bergdahl's release into next year!
Ummm...Wasn't it Eastwood who talked to a chair?
Let's see...debate with the "do nothing" Congress until next year, OR immediately unleash known terrorists because King Obama thinks its a good idea. HMMMM...I guess I see your logic - NOT!
Yep, Eastwood was brilliant. The empty chair symbolized Obama. How appropriate.
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Location: Do I hear Banjos? | The White House has apologized to Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) for failing to alert her in advance of a decision to release Taliban commanders from Guantanamo Bay.
Feinstein told reporters that she received a call from Deputy National Security Adviser Tony Blinken on Monday evening apologizing for what the administration is calling an “oversight."
"I had a call from the White House last night, from Tony Blinken, apologizing for it,” she said.
“He apologized and said it was an oversight,” she added.
Feinstein also said leaders of the House and Senate Intelligence panels were almost unanimously against a prisoner trade when it came up in 2011.
She said the chairmen and ranking Republicans of the “connected committees” spent a lot of time in 2011 reviewing the possibility of a prisoner swap and came out firmly opposed to releasing senior militants from the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay.
“There were very strong views and they were virtually unanimous against the trade,” she said.
“I certainly want to know more about whether this man was a deserter,” she said of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was released to American special forces in return for the freedom of five senior Taliban commanders.
Administration officials have said in public that they did not have time to inform Congress of the prisoner swap because Bergdahl’s life was in danger and they did not know how long the Taliban would be willing to wait to finalize the deal.
So from that I gather that Obama made an end run around congress not because there wasn't any urgency...but rather because he Already KNEW that the vast majority of congress was against trading high profile terrorists for this guy. Nice...and not at all a surprise.
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Location: Arkansas | I still think letting the Justices, Court or Military handle the disposition of Bergdahl is the best method. Not a single one of us know what happened, just rumors and innuendo's. Due to past militry experience, we can guess what will be done...but it's a new military. This is, after all, a country of Law's. If he end's up in Leavenworth or home in Idaho...so be it.
And Estwood looked like an idiot! 
As far as the Do-Nothings...they earned the title. 
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| Lobo - 2014-06-03 2:51 PM If it had been left up to the "Do-Nothings" we'd be debating Bergdahl's release into next year!
Ummm...Wasn't it Eastwood who talked to a chair?
So the rule of laws is subject to convenience? |
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Location: Arkansas | TXBO - 2014-06-03 4:01 PM Lobo - 2014-06-03 2:51 PM If it had been left up to the "Do-Nothings" we'd be debating Bergdahl's release into next year!
Ummm...Wasn't it Eastwood who talked to a chair?
It always has been.
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| Lobo - 2014-06-03 4:04 PM TXBO - 2014-06-03 4:01 PM Lobo - 2014-06-03 2:51 PM If it had been left up to the "Do-Nothings" we'd be debating Bergdahl's release into next year!
Ummm...Wasn't it Eastwood who talked to a chair?
Read my signature.
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| TXBO - 2014-06-04 2:06 PM Lobo - 2014-06-03 4:04 PM TXBO - 2014-06-03 4:01 PM Lobo - 2014-06-03 2:51 PM If it had been left up to the "Do-Nothings" we'd be debating Bergdahl's release into next year!
Ummm...Wasn't it Eastwood who talked to a chair?
Read my signature.
Without law, there is chaos.
Love you, TXBO
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Location: Arkansas | TXBO - 2014-06-03 4:06 PM Lobo - 2014-06-03 4:04 PM TXBO - 2014-06-03 4:01 PM Lobo - 2014-06-03 2:51 PM If it had been left up to the "Do-Nothings" we'd be debating Bergdahl's release into next year!
Ummm...Wasn't it Eastwood who talked to a chair?
Read my signature.
Why, Thank you for calling old people stupid. They think a lot of "younger" people are foolish AND stupid. They'll still support you! |
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| Lobo - 2014-06-03 4:23 PM TXBO - 2014-06-03 4:06 PM Lobo - 2014-06-03 4:04 PM TXBO - 2014-06-03 4:01 PM Lobo - 2014-06-03 2:51 PM If it had been left up to the "Do-Nothings" we'd be debating Bergdahl's release into next year!
Ummm...Wasn't it Eastwood who talked to a chair?
Read my signature.
He did not call old people stupid, he said longevity had nothing to do with intelligence. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2014-06-03 4:31 PM Lobo - 2014-06-03 4:23 PM TXBO - 2014-06-03 4:06 PM Lobo - 2014-06-03 4:04 PM TXBO - 2014-06-03 4:01 PM Lobo - 2014-06-03 2:51 PM If it had been left up to the "Do-Nothings" we'd be debating Bergdahl's release into next year!
Ummm...Wasn't it Eastwood who talked to a chair?
Read my signature.
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Location: A Higher Elevation | Lobo - 2014-06-03 2:01 PM
I still think letting the Justices, Court or Military handle the disposition of Bergdahl is the best method. Not a single one of us know what happened, just rumors and innuendo's. Due to past militry experience, we can guess what will be done...but it's a new military. This is, after all, a country of Law's. If he end's up in Leavenworth or home in Idaho...so be it.
And Estwood looked like an idiot! As far as the Do-Nothings...they earned the title.
Yes. This is a Nation of Laws. Laws that the current CinC seems to think he can just pick and choose his way thru. He will make sure that Bergdahl doesn't have to face Court Martial. And if he does go to UCMJ hearings/trial, then it's all rigged already. The key witnesses will be found dead for one reason or another... B0/BS needed a feel-good story to get the VA issue off the front page. I could go on and on about personal experience with military and VA healthcare, but this isn't about that. Other than Bergdahl is the newest/latest/shiniest distraction at the moment.
I find it kind of funny that his hometown in Idaho WAS planning a Welcome Home parade & celebration. It's been cancelled before they could even set the date...
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| Lobo - 2014-06-03 4:04 PM TXBO - 2014-06-03 4:01 PM Lobo - 2014-06-03 2:51 PM If it had been left up to the "Do-Nothings" we'd be debating Bergdahl's release into next year!
Ummm...Wasn't it Eastwood who talked to a chair?
Read my signature.
CONGRESS
Dianne Feinstein Disappointed Lawmakers Not Given 30-Day Notice on Bergdahl Swap
The Senate Intel Committee chairwoman says the administration has apologized for not giving her a heads up. (Mark Wilson/Getty Images)  June 3, 2014 Senate Intelligence Committee Chairwoman Dianne Feinstein took at shot at the Obama administration on Tuesday for failing to give lawmakers 30 days' notice about a deal to release five Taliban prisoners from Guantanamo Bay in exchange for Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, the only POW from America's war in Afghanistan.
"It's very disappointing that there was not a level of trust sufficient to justify alerting us," Feinstein told reporters in the Capitol.
A defense bill that President Obama signed into law in December 2013 requires that Congress be notified 30 days ahead of releasing prisoners from Guantanamo Bay. Feinstein said that National Deputy Security Adviser Tony Blinken called her Monday night "apologizing" for failing to notify lawmakers sooner. "He apologized for it and said it was an oversight," Feinstein said. When asked whether he used the word "oversight," Feinstein clarified: "In so many words, I can't say. That was my impression." While the California Democrat says "the president certainly has an executive authority that he can use," she also wants to know whether Bergdahl was a deserter, and she wants to know the terms of the deal with the Qatari government, which has pledged to keep the Taliban prisoners for a year. There will be a briefing Tuesday for Intel Committee members, and a closed Senate Armed Services Committee hearing next Tuesday about the swap.In December, Obama issued a signing statement that said the executive branch should have the flexibility "to act swiftly in conducting negotiations with foreign countries regarding the circumstances of detainee transfers." The administration has defended the prisoner swap, pointing to the signing statement as a clear indication that Congress was put on notice, and that lawmakers knew for a long time about the possibility of such a swap. "We have consulted with Congress for quite some time about the possibility that we might need to execute a prisoner exchange in order to recover Sergeant Bergdahl," Obama said in Poland on Tuesday morning. "We saw an opportunity. We were concerned about Sergeant Bergdahl's health. We had the cooperation of the Qataris to execute an exchange, and we seized that opportunity. And the process was truncated because we wanted to make sure that we did not miss that window." House Armed Services Committee Chairman Buck McKeon has already pledged to hold hearings on the prisoner swap, saying his "impression" is that the president broke the law when he failed to give notice. Feinstein conceded that op position to the deal could have been one reason lawmakers weren't notified. "But the White House is pretty unilateral about what they want to do when they want to do it," she added.
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Location: Florida.. | this country is a country of Laws for us abiding citizens but not for that obama or his cronies and sometimes not even for criminals.. they have no laws so it seems.. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Bibliafarm - 2014-06-03 6:42 PM this country is a country of Laws for us abiding citizens but not for that obama or his cronies and sometimes not even for criminals.. they have no laws so it seems..
If your a criminal Obama is on your side so no worrie's for all the criminals do what you do best cause there's no rules or laws for you |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | Southtxponygirl - 2014-06-03 7:19 PM Bibliafarm - 2014-06-03 6:42 PM this country is a country of Laws for us abiding citizens but not for that obama or his cronies and sometimes not even for criminals.. they have no laws so it seems.. If your a criminal Obama is on your side so no worrie's for all the criminals do what you do best cause there's no rules or laws for you
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | I think it's entirely possible that, since Obama is a lame duck president, the strategy is to have him do anything possible to shift the focus away from the one topic that leaves Democrats up for election this fall most vulnerable: ObamaCare. The more outrage, the more the focus is shifted away from the constant drip-drip-drip of the disaster called ObamaCare.
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Location: Florida.. | he needs impeached.. but no one will start the process.. they all are sorry excuses for leaders.. |
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| I'm real interested to see who this president pardons in his final hours. Anyone care to prognosticate? |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | TXBO - 2014-06-04 9:48 AM
I'm real interested to see who this president pardons in his final hours. Anyone care to prognosticate?
I'm sure he would love to start by somehow "pardoning" himself and making himself immune to any prosecution that might arise. |
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Nothing will happen to Obama...........nor will Bergdahl be found guilty of anything............welcome to Obama's world from Obamacare "you keep your insurance if you want".........Benghazi...........Fast and Furious..........IRS.......etc....... |
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| TXBO - 2014-06-04 9:48 AM
I'm real interested to see who this president pardons in his final hours. Anyone care to prognosticate?
Himself. |
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Location: Florida.. | yep it will just dissolve in the wind.. |
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| jbhoot - 2014-06-04 10:25 AM TXBO - 2014-06-04 9:48 AM I'm real interested to see who this president pardons in his final hours. Anyone care to prognosticate? Himself.
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jbhoot - 2014-06-04 10:25 AM TXBO - 2014-06-04 9:48 AM I'm real interested to see who this president pardons in his final hours. Anyone care to prognosticate? Himself.
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Location: Sperry, OK | Bibliafarm - 2014-06-04 9:44 AM he needs impeached.. but no one will start the process.. they all are sorry excuses for leaders.. Honestly my personal opinion is they won't because he is black, then they would all be racists! However, they didn't bad an eye to impeach President Clinton for lying under oath.
ETA: Maybe that would give Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson something to squack about, they have been kinda quiet lately!
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Location: Kansas | HotbearLVR - 2014-06-03 11:41 PM I think it's entirely possible that, since Obama is a lame duck president, the strategy is to have him do anything possible to shift the focus away from the one topic that leaves Democrats up for election this fall most vulnerable: ObamaCare. The more outrage, the more the focus is shifted away from the constant drip-drip-drip of the disaster called ObamaCare.
Did you watch O'Reilly last night. He has an insider at the White House (no name divulged) who says that since Obama has lost his popularity and doesn't see the changes he had in mind coming about, that Obama's just gone rogue and is bent on doing anything he wants to do.
I see a very dangerous and disturbing two more years of his presidency.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Frodo - 2014-06-04 11:57 AM
HotbearLVR - 2014-06-03 11:41 PM I think it's entirely possible that, since Obama is a lame duck president, the strategy is to have him do anything possible to shift the focus away from the one topic that leaves Democrats up for election this fall most vulnerable: ObamaCare. The more outrage, the more the focus is shifted away from the constant drip-drip-drip of the disaster called ObamaCare.
Did you watch O'Reilly last night. He has an insider at the White House (no name divulged) who says that since Obama has lost his popularity and doesn't see the changes he had in mind coming about, that Obama's just gone rogue and is bent on doing anything he wants to do.
I see a very dangerous and disturbing two more years of his presidency.
That's interesting. The same thing happened to another famous tyrant from the 20th century, Adolf Hitler. He started to lose his mind too, when things didn't go as planned. |
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Location: The birthplace of Honest Abe | I had a warrant officer come thru my office on Tuesday and he was in the unit when he disappeared. He said the same thing others in his platoon said. That he walked off and left his military sensitive items and mailed all his personal stuff home months earlier. Plus I dont know if it real or not because I dont believe everything I read on the internet but according to what I read the Pentagon ruled him a deserter a year after he disappeared. |
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Location: Kansas | It's either tonight or Thursday on The Kelly File she will interview six of his platoon members. I've seen several interviewed already and they all say he deserted them. One firmly believes he sold out their positions and daily routines because of precise attacks that came about after Bergdahl left.
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| Umm he looked pretty good with the talaban he doesn't look in bad shape and you know they wouldn't keep him healthy if they didn't turn him |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Obama can relate to Bergdahl as they are both traitors to our country. |
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Location: A Higher Elevation | I'm still waiting for the "unliker" to defend Bergdahl & his actions...
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Spring Fling - 2014-06-04 6:05 PM I'm still waiting for the "unliker" to defend Bergdahl & his actions...
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Location: Dubach, LA | My son was deployed over there at that time and remembers it well. He doesn't have a good opinion. I can't say what he said. It wasn't ugly, it's just loose lips sink ships talk. |
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Location: Texas | Southtxponygirl - 2014-06-04 4:56 PM
Spring Fling - 2014-06-04 6:05 PM I'm still waiting for the "unliker" to defend Bergdahl & his actions...
Oh they wont because the disliker is a COWARD
Exactly, or because there's nothing to defend and no ground to stand on in defense of Bergdahl. |
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Location: Online | What's biting my butt about this now, is all the fellow soldiers who were in his platoon are speaking out, telling pretty much the same story and Obama and his minions are actually calling them liars???? He has the audacity to accuse brave, honorable men who served our country and received medals liars. Wow..... Men died trying to get the loser back and Obama and his goons tried to cover that up. That just shows how the narcissist dictator in chief that he is incapable of admitting he screwed up. His feelings are hurt because he's not getting the pats on the back and the high fives over this deal. He can't take the criticism so he goes and attacks those who were there, those who were around the traitor and know what he was thinking and doing. King Obama ain't happy, so he's going to vilify all who don't agree. Typical. |
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Location: Kansas | Obama just defended his "deal" overseas at a news conference. He said something like it's his job as commander in chief (barf) to make sure all the young people who volunteer for the military come home safely no matter what the circumstances. The problem is he forgot to mention the six soldiers who were killed looking for this deserter. These families also wanted their children to come home safely. There were other ways to get Bergdahl home. Obama's passion is to free all Gitmo prisoners. The idiot Harry Reid confirmed this. |
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Location: Online | Frodo - 2014-06-05 8:28 AM Obama just defended his "deal" overseas at a news conference. He said something like it's his job as commander in chief (barf) to make sure all the young people who volunteer for the military come home safely no matter what the circumstances. The problem is he forgot to mention the six soldiers who were killed looking for this deserter. These families also wanted their children to come home safely. There were other ways to get Bergdahl home. Obama's passion is to free all Gitmo prisoners. The idiot Harry Reid confirmed this.
I saw that too, and had to change the channel, couldn't take it. Puke.
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | Frodo - 2014-06-05 10:28 AM Obama just defended his "deal" overseas at a news conference. He said something like it's his job as commander in chief (barf) to make sure all the young people who volunteer for the military come home safely no matter what the circumstances. The problem is he forgot to mention the six soldiers who were killed looking for this deserter. These families also wanted their children to come home safely. There were other ways to get Bergdahl home. Obama's passion is to free all Gitmo prisoners. The idiot Harry Reid confirmed this.
Yea - and he certainly has done an excellent job up that over the years - 
The leading reason to snatch him out of there and let 5 prisoners walk a few days ago was this individuals health - guess CNN blew that
http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=Bergdahl+health&FORM=ASMMVR#view=detail&mid=C4A14CA8E83DAE0386C0C4A14CA8E83DAE0386C0
Now spinning it to do with him being in increased danger if he was not rescuded immediately.
This is so very sicking.
Oh Obama - where is this transparancy you spoke of????????????????
Pulled a fast one on the sheeple.
While I rant - it pi***** me off that this peron's father spoke to him in a lauguage other than English in the Rose Garden. Forgot the English language in 5 years - really???????????????
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Location: wherever my daughter's running | Based on the latest report concerning the POUS reponses to Bergdahl's release I suppose these were not someone's son - what a slap in the face.
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | cruise - 2014-06-05 11:24 AM Based on the latest report concerning the POUS reponses to Bergdahl's release I suppose these were not someone's son - what a slap in the face.
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Location: Kansas | cruise - 2014-06-05 11:24 AM Based on the latest report concerning the POUS reponses to Bergdahl's release I suppose these were not someone's son - what a slap in the face.
Well said Cruise.........
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Location: Broxton, Ga | Frodo - 2014-06-04 10:28 AM Obama just defended his "deal" overseas at a news conference. He said something like it's his job as commander in chief (barf) to make sure all the young people who volunteer for the military come home safely no matter what the circumstances. The problem is he forgot to mention the six soldiers who were killed looking for this deserter. These families also wanted their children to come home safely. There were other ways to get Bergdahl home. Obama's passion is to free all Gitmo prisoners. The idiot Harry Reid confirmed this.
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | rodeomom13 - 2014-06-05 9:10 AM What's biting my butt about this now, is all the fellow soldiers who were in his platoon are speaking out, telling pretty much the same story and Obama and his minions are actually calling them liars???? He has the audacity to accuse brave, honorable men who served our country and received medals liars. Wow..... Men died trying to get the loser back and Obama and his goons tried to cover that up. That just shows how the narcissist dictator in chief that he is incapable of admitting he screwed up. His feelings are hurt because he's not getting the pats on the back and the high fives over this deal. He can't take the criticism so he goes and attacks those who were there, those who were around the traitor and know what he was thinking and doing. King Obama ain't happy, so he's going to vilify all who don't agree. Typical.
I couldn't agree more and now this administration is coming up with a whopper of a story to cover themselves. All of this is getting real old and it's time we have a real, true, love of country back in the Whitehouse before this country is destroyed. |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | Doesn't this really make you wonder what he was thinking? He could easily pick up the phone and tell the 3rd world country of Mexico to let our servicemen go and this country would have been patting him on the back instead of bringing back a deserter and letting go 5 people that hate us and want to kill us. |
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Location: relocated to Texas | Nevertooold - 2014-06-06 11:25 AM Doesn't this really make you wonder what he was thinking? He could easily pick up the phone and tell the 3rd world country of Mexico to let our servicemen go and this country would have been patting him on the back instead of bringing back a deserter and letting go 5 people that hate us and want to kill us.
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Location: Florida.. | Hollywood's Fan - 2014-06-05 1:47 PM Nevertooold - 2014-06-06 11:25 AM Doesn't this really make you wonder what he was thinking? He could easily pick up the phone and tell the 3rd world country of Mexico to let our servicemen go and this country would have been patting him on the back instead of bringing back a deserter and letting go 5 people that hate us and want to kill us. Doesn't make me wonder. I truly think Obama is out to destroy this country. Would not at all be surprised if he is funded by the terrorists - their secret weapon to destroy this nation from within.
I agree and I think his money for running for the pres was funded by them as well.. get him in there so its easier to destroy.. how else do you account for the $$ that noone knows where it came from .. its all pretty clear... just some wont look |
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| Hollywood's Fan - 2014-06-05 12:47 PM Nevertooold - 2014-06-06 11:25 AM Doesn't this really make you wonder what he was thinking? He could easily pick up the phone and tell the 3rd world country of Mexico to let our servicemen go and this country would have been patting him on the back instead of bringing back a deserter and letting go 5 people that hate us and want to kill us. Doesn't make me wonder. I truly think Obama is out to destroy this country. Would not at all be surprised if he is funded by the terrorists - their secret weapon to destroy this nation from within.
I have no doubt that he is trying to destroy OUR nation. The weapon he is using is chaos. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | Whiteboy - 2014-06-05 1:08 PM Hollywood's Fan - 2014-06-05 12:47 PM Nevertooold - 2014-06-06 11:25 AM Doesn't this really make you wonder what he was thinking? He could easily pick up the phone and tell the 3rd world country of Mexico to let our servicemen go and this country would have been patting him on the back instead of bringing back a deserter and letting go 5 people that hate us and want to kill us. Doesn't make me wonder. I truly think Obama is out to destroy this country. Would not at all be surprised if he is funded by the terrorists - their secret weapon to destroy this nation from within. I have no doubt that he is trying to destroy OUR nation. The weapon he is using is chaos.
I'm really worried when its time for this creep to leave office, what is he going to do to our nation befor he leaves is what scares me the most. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Consider this...Adam and Eve lived in a perfect paradise, the Garden of Eden. They knew it was God given and they were commanded not to partake in the "forbidden fruit", yet Satan convinced them to partake, even though they knew full well it was strictly forbidden by The Lord. Fast forward to 2014, and we have a president who has managed to get away with countless acts of depravity that run counter to our core principles and values along with brazen, widely destructive lies, the likes of which we have heretofore never witnessed by a President of the United States. How can this be? My answer: history repeats itself. Evil forces are at work.
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Location: relocated to Texas | Watching the documentary about Hitler, the comparisons between his rise and how he manuipulated the German people, and what Obama has/is doing to manipulate the sheepies in this country, are sobering. I have never understood how someone like Hitler could convince a nation to turn a blind eye to mass murder. He had a loyal "spin doctor" who was a master at public relations and spoon fed lies to the German people. His lunacy destroyed that country. Fast forward to 2014 and the Obama spin machine is managing to do the same to the great United States. People in this country need to wake up before it is too late.
And Bibs, that is exactly what I was trying to say. I believe Obama and his campaign was/is funded by his friends in the Middle East. Give me another reason how a Jr. no-name senator from Illinois out funded the well established Clinton machine. Obama raised more money for his campaign than any candidate in history and like everything else this Administration does, the genesis for much of those funds is a mystery.
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Location: East Texas | HotbearLVR - 2014-06-05 1:30 PM
Consider this...Adam and Eve lived in a perfect paradise, the Garden of Eden. They knew it was God given and they were commanded not to partake in the "forbidden fruit", yet Satan convinced them to partake, even though they knew full well it was strictly forbidden by The Lord. Fast forward to 2014, and we have a president who has managed to get away with countless acts of depravity that run counter to our core principles and values along with brazen, widely destructive lies, the likes of which we have heretofore never witnessed by a President of the United States. How can this be? My answer: history repeats itself. Evil forces are at work.
"Dislike" this, if you dare.
There you go, Doc... they did "Dislike" your comment. I called them out earlier to come tell their side, but I guess they must not feel that strongly about what they believe about this subject and, instead, continue to hide behind that ole "Dislike" button!!
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | horsesinharleton - 2014-06-05 3:28 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-06-05 1:30 PM
Consider this...Adam and Eve lived in a perfect paradise, the Garden of Eden. They knew it was God given and they were commanded not to partake in the "forbidden fruit", yet Satan convinced them to partake, even though they knew full well it was strictly forbidden by The Lord. Fast forward to 2014, and we have a president who has managed to get away with countless acts of depravity that run counter to our core principles and values along with brazen, widely destructive lies, the likes of which we have heretofore never witnessed by a President of the United States. How can this be? My answer: history repeats itself. Evil forces are at work.
"Dislike" this, if you dare.
There you go, Doc... they did "Dislike" your comment. I called them out earlier to come tell their side, but I guess they must not feel that strongly about what they believe about this subject and, instead, continue to hide behind that ole "Dislike" button!!
We just need to Ignore the "nut case"! |
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Location: East Texas | Kcaughran - 2014-06-05 3:34 PM
horsesinharleton - 2014-06-05 3:28 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-06-05 1:30 PM
Consider this...Adam and Eve lived in a perfect paradise, the Garden of Eden. They knew it was God given and they were commanded not to partake in the "forbidden fruit", yet Satan convinced them to partake, even though they knew full well it was strictly forbidden by The Lord. Fast forward to 2014, and we have a president who has managed to get away with countless acts of depravity that run counter to our core principles and values along with brazen, widely destructive lies, the likes of which we have heretofore never witnessed by a President of the United States. How can this be? My answer: history repeats itself. Evil forces are at work.
"Dislike" this, if you dare.
There you go, Doc... they did "Dislike" your comment. I called them out earlier to come tell their side, but I guess they must not feel that strongly about what they believe about this subject and, instead, continue to hide behind that ole "Dislike" button!!
We just need to Ignore the "nut case"!
I am sure you are right. They probably just want the attention... so, attention over, Disliker... consider yourself ignored!!! |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Kcaughran - 2014-06-05 3:34 PM
horsesinharleton - 2014-06-05 3:28 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-06-05 1:30 PM
Consider this...Adam and Eve lived in a perfect paradise, the Garden of Eden. They knew it was God given and they were commanded not to partake in the "forbidden fruit", yet Satan convinced them to partake, even though they knew full well it was strictly forbidden by The Lord. Fast forward to 2014, and we have a president who has managed to get away with countless acts of depravity that run counter to our core principles and values along with brazen, widely destructive lies, the likes of which we have heretofore never witnessed by a President of the United States. How can this be? My answer: history repeats itself. Evil forces are at work.
"Dislike" this, if you dare.
There you go, Doc... they did "Dislike" your comment. I called them out earlier to come tell their side, but I guess they must not feel that strongly about what they believe about this subject and, instead, continue to hide behind that ole "Dislike" button!!
We just need to Ignore the "nut case"!
Relax, it wasn't the "disliker". It was me! LOL
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Location: East Texas | HotbearLVR - 2014-06-05 3:39 PM
Kcaughran - 2014-06-05 3:34 PM
horsesinharleton - 2014-06-05 3:28 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-06-05 1:30 PM
Consider this...Adam and Eve lived in a perfect paradise, the Garden of Eden. They knew it was God given and they were commanded not to partake in the "forbidden fruit", yet Satan convinced them to partake, even though they knew full well it was strictly forbidden by The Lord. Fast forward to 2014, and we have a president who has managed to get away with countless acts of depravity that run counter to our core principles and values along with brazen, widely destructive lies, the likes of which we have heretofore never witnessed by a President of the United States. How can this be? My answer: history repeats itself. Evil forces are at work.
"Dislike" this, if you dare.
There you go, Doc... they did "Dislike" your comment. I called them out earlier to come tell their side, but I guess they must not feel that strongly about what they believe about this subject and, instead, continue to hide behind that ole "Dislike" button!!
We just need to Ignore the "nut case"!
Relax, it wasn't the "disliker". It was me! LOL
I didn't want her to feel alone.
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Location: Flat Rock,IL | horsesinharleton - 2014-06-05 3:41 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-06-05 3:39 PM
Kcaughran - 2014-06-05 3:34 PM
horsesinharleton - 2014-06-05 3:28 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-06-05 1:30 PM
Consider this...Adam and Eve lived in a perfect paradise, the Garden of Eden. They knew it was God given and they were commanded not to partake in the "forbidden fruit", yet Satan convinced them to partake, even though they knew full well it was strictly forbidden by The Lord. Fast forward to 2014, and we have a president who has managed to get away with countless acts of depravity that run counter to our core principles and values along with brazen, widely destructive lies, the likes of which we have heretofore never witnessed by a President of the United States. How can this be? My answer: history repeats itself. Evil forces are at work.
"Dislike" this, if you dare.
There you go, Doc... they did "Dislike" your comment. I called them out earlier to come tell their side, but I guess they must not feel that strongly about what they believe about this subject and, instead, continue to hide behind that ole "Dislike" button!!
We just need to Ignore the "nut case"!
Relax, it wasn't the "disliker". It was me! LOL
I didn't want her to feel alone.
What a dork!!!
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Shucks....I was just kidding. Seriously, though, think about it.....why would someone "dislike" my comment and the reference to Satan? It's true, isn't it? How else do you explain this man's arising out of nowhere, to grab the most powerful position on the planet, with virtually no noteworthy accomplishments? How does someone win a Nobel Peace Prize from reading some ideas on a teleprompter? How does someone persuade congress to pass such a "transformational" law as ObamaCare when the vast majority of citizens are against it even though he harmed countless millions with his lies and assurances in persuading people they could keep their plan and their doctor? The only force powerful and evil enough to accomplish these things is Satan. |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | HotbearLVR - 2014-06-05 3:39 PM Kcaughran - 2014-06-05 3:34 PM horsesinharleton - 2014-06-05 3:28 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-06-05 1:30 PM Consider this...Adam and Eve lived in a perfect paradise, the Garden of Eden. They knew it was God given and they were commanded not to partake in the "forbidden fruit", yet Satan convinced them to partake, even though they knew full well it was strictly forbidden by The Lord. Fast forward to 2014, and we have a president who has managed to get away with countless acts of depravity that run counter to our core principles and values along with brazen, widely destructive lies, the likes of which we have heretofore never witnessed by a President of the United States. How can this be? My answer: history repeats itself. Evil forces are at work. "Dislike" this, if you dare. There you go, Doc... they did "Dislike" your comment. I called them out earlier to come tell their side, but I guess they must not feel that strongly about what they believe about this subject and, instead, continue to hide behind that ole "Dislike" button!! We just need to Ignore the "nut case"! Relax, it wasn't the "disliker". It was me! LOL I didn't want her to feel alone.
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Southtxponygirl - 2014-06-05 4:13 PM
HotbearLVR - 2014-06-05 3:39 PM Kcaughran - 2014-06-05 3:34 PM horsesinharleton - 2014-06-05 3:28 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-06-05 1:30 PM Consider this...Adam and Eve lived in a perfect paradise, the Garden of Eden. They knew it was God given and they were commanded not to partake in the "forbidden fruit", yet Satan convinced them to partake, even though they knew full well it was strictly forbidden by The Lord. Fast forward to 2014, and we have a president who has managed to get away with countless acts of depravity that run counter to our core principles and values along with brazen, widely destructive lies, the likes of which we have heretofore never witnessed by a President of the United States. How can this be? My answer: history repeats itself. Evil forces are at work. "Dislike" this, if you dare. There you go, Doc... they did "Dislike" your comment. I called them out earlier to come tell their side, but I guess they must not feel that strongly about what they believe about this subject and, instead, continue to hide behind that ole "Dislike" button!! We just need to Ignore the "nut case"! Relax, it wasn't the "disliker". It was me! LOL I didn't want her to feel alone.
Because there are only about 4 guys who regularly come on BHW and only one of them loves Obama, but he isn't afraid to own his words. This person obviously is afraid. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | Seriously, folks, can anyone think of one past president who rose up out of obscurity to win the presidential election? How else can it be explained? Obviously, Obozo had help.....but who is that powerful? |
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Location: Under The Big Sky Of Texas | HotbearLVR - 2014-06-05 4:19 PM Southtxponygirl - 2014-06-05 4:13 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-06-05 3:39 PM Kcaughran - 2014-06-05 3:34 PM horsesinharleton - 2014-06-05 3:28 PM HotbearLVR - 2014-06-05 1:30 PM Consider this...Adam and Eve lived in a perfect paradise, the Garden of Eden. They knew it was God given and they were commanded not to partake in the "forbidden fruit", yet Satan convinced them to partake, even though they knew full well it was strictly forbidden by The Lord. Fast forward to 2014, and we have a president who has managed to get away with countless acts of depravity that run counter to our core principles and values along with brazen, widely destructive lies, the likes of which we have heretofore never witnessed by a President of the United States. How can this be? My answer: history repeats itself. Evil forces are at work. "Dislike" this, if you dare. There you go, Doc... they did "Dislike" your comment. I called them out earlier to come tell their side, but I guess they must not feel that strongly about what they believe about this subject and, instead, continue to hide behind that ole "Dislike" button!! We just need to Ignore the "nut case"! Relax, it wasn't the "disliker". It was me! LOL I didn't want her to feel alone. Because there are only about 4 guys who regularly come on BHW and only one of them loves Obama, but he isn't afraid to own his words. This person obviously is afraid.
You are so wise, I forgot about that one fella and he has not been on here in a really long time. So you have got to be right. Its a she, now only if this cowardly she would just pop in and let us know why she loves the ways of this horrible creepy devil. |
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Location: oklahoma | Not shocking to say the least but Fox News is reporting that this traitor converted to Islam, et al while in 'captivity.' This all, I'm sure, was orchestrated from the start because as srs on here told me once, 'nothing is as it seems.' That has come true more than once since she told me that a few years ago. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | CurlyQ - 2014-06-05 4:41 PM
Not shocking to say the least but Fox News is reporting that this traitor converted to Islam, et al while in 'captivity.' This all, I'm sure, was orchestrated from the start because as srs on here told me once, 'nothing is as it seems.' That has come true more than once since she told me that a few years ago.
"Nothing is as it seems" may well apply here, as I suggested earlier. |
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Location: Washington | At this point it doesn't matter what Obuma did, it is now up to our elected officials to step up and hold his feet to the fire.
It is also up to the Army to say "Bergdahl is ours", And stand ground. |
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Location: Florida.. | I doubt he converted.. he was one to begin with .. imho. his dad was already so what a crock .. did you see the video of him being turned over to us troops.. some say there was major flaws.. |
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| fatchance - 2014-06-05 6:39 PM At this point it doesn't matter what Obuma did, it is now up to our elected officials to step up and hold his feet to the fire.
It is also up to the Army to say "Bergdahl is ours", And stand ground.
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Location: Florida.. | Gail - 2014-06-05 8:22 PM fatchance - 2014-06-05 6:39 PM At this point it doesn't matter what Obuma did, it is now up to our elected officials to step up and hold his feet to the fire.
It is also up to the Army to say "Bergdahl is ours", And stand ground.
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Location: oklahoma | fatchance - 2014-06-05 6:39 PM At this point it doesn't matter what Obuma did, it is now up to our elected officials to step up and hold his feet to the fire.
It is also up to the Army to say "Bergdahl is ours", And stand ground.
We can pray that they do a better job at holding the higher ups responsible, more so than the Benghazi affair. I have my doubts since Obama was so , almost eager, to release the worst of the worst in the Taliban. My ex was in the army, retired now but I remember when Clinton was in office and desecrated and was so very disrespectful to us and the office, and he wouldn't say a word. I know that they can't, he's their commander in chief. He continually lets them and us down. His will be done isn't the same as our sometimes but if I was asked, I'd like for him to be tried, convicted of treason and spend his remaining days in Leavenworth.
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Location: Washington | CurlyQ - 2014-06-05 6:03 PM fatchance - 2014-06-05 6:39 PM At this point it doesn't matter what Obuma did, it is now up to our elected officials to step up and hold his feet to the fire.
It is also up to the Army to say "Bergdahl is ours", And stand ground. We can pray that they do a better job at holding the higher ups responsible, more so than the Benghazi affair. I have my doubts since Obama was so , almost eager, to release the worst of the worst in the Taliban. My ex was in the army, retired now but I remember when Clinton was in office and desecrated and was so very disrespectful to us and the office, and he wouldn't say a word. I know that they can't, he's their commander in chief. He continually lets them and us down. His will be done isn't the same as our sometimes but if I was asked, I'd like for him to be tried, convicted of treason and spend his remaining days in Leavenworth.
(Sorry so long :)
I assure you CurlyQ, this household understands.
Treason is not going to be in the cards. Our hope is he is given a dishorable discharge (no prison time due to time served), and we the people no longer give him a check and or VA benefits...for what that is worth.
The Clinton years, we lived them abroad, not a fun time.
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Location: oklahoma | fatchance - 2014-06-05 8:51 PM CurlyQ - 2014-06-05 6:03 PM fatchance - 2014-06-05 6:39 PM At this point it doesn't matter what Obuma did, it is now up to our elected officials to step up and hold his feet to the fire.
It is also up to the Army to say "Bergdahl is ours", And stand ground. We can pray that they do a better job at holding the higher ups responsible, more so than the Benghazi affair. I have my doubts since Obama was so , almost eager, to release the worst of the worst in the Taliban. My ex was in the army, retired now but I remember when Clinton was in office and desecrated and was so very disrespectful to us and the office, and he wouldn't say a word. I know that they can't, he's their commander in chief. He continually lets them and us down. His will be done isn't the same as our sometimes but if I was asked, I'd like for him to be tried, convicted of treason and spend his remaining days in Leavenworth.
(Sorry so long :)
Treason is not going to be in the cards. Our hope is he is given a dishorable discharge (no prison time due to time served), and we the people no longer give him a check and or VA benefits...for what that is worth.
The Clinton years, we lived them abroad, not a fun time.
We were stationed overseas then too. Where we you? We were in Germany, came back here for a few years and then went to Italy. |
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Location: Washington | CurlyQ - 2014-06-05 6:57 PM fatchance - 2014-06-05 8:51 PM CurlyQ - 2014-06-05 6:03 PM fatchance - 2014-06-05 6:39 PM At this point it doesn't matter what Obuma did, it is now up to our elected officials to step up and hold his feet to the fire.
It is also up to the Army to say "Bergdahl is ours", And stand ground. We can pray that they do a better job at holding the higher ups responsible, more so than the Benghazi affair. I have my doubts since Obama was so , almost eager, to release the worst of the worst in the Taliban. My ex was in the army, retired now but I remember when Clinton was in office and desecrated and was so very disrespectful to us and the office, and he wouldn't say a word. I know that they can't, he's their commander in chief. He continually lets them and us down. His will be done isn't the same as our sometimes but if I was asked, I'd like for him to be tried, convicted of treason and spend his remaining days in Leavenworth.
(Sorry so long :)
Treason is not going to be in the cards. Our hope is he is given a dishorable discharge (no prison time due to time served), and we the people no longer give him a check and or VA benefits...for what that is worth.
The Clinton years, we lived them abroad, not a fun time.
Got tired of the blue dress joke.
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Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.....
