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Location: Dubach, LA | It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things. |
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Location: NE Texas | Blazin Jetolena, kind of already is, but I think he's going to continue to produce and his offspring is going to be in high demand. I know i'd sure love to have one!
I also know that some of the El Scorcho babies have gotten into very capable hands. I'm anxious to see how they do!
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things.
I think you either have to invest a lot of money into promoting a stallion, or have a superstar that wins a bunch of big ones one year. I can think of some others that are in the same boat--lots of outstanding babies winning stuff but not many people know who their daddy is. Jesses Double Dee comes to mind. One of his daughters won the 1D average at the Crawfish Craze race this year by a half a second (won Saturday's race by 3 tenths with almost 400 entered). He's had a bunch of other winners in futurities, rodeos, and barrel races, not just the one, and I am in love with my mare by him, but not many people outside of east TX know who he is. I had never heard of him before I traded for this mare when she was a yearling, and if not for her, I still wouldn't know. |
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Location: Texas | CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM
It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things.
I really want one of his babies. Really really! IDK what keeps him local either. I do know I've had no success getting emails replied back to when I've emailed about him.. might just have to pick up the phone and call. |
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Location: NE Texas | Three 4 Luck - 2014-06-05 9:26 AM CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things. I think you either have to invest a lot of money into promoting a stallion, or have a superstar that wins a bunch of big ones one year. I can think of some others that are in the same boat--lots of outstanding babies winning stuff but not many people know who their daddy is. Jesses Double Dee comes to mind. One of his daughters won the 1D average at the Crawfish Craze race this year by a half a second (won Saturday's race by 3 tenths with almost 400 entered). He's had a bunch of other winners in futurities, rodeos, and barrel races, not just the one, and I am in love with my mare by him, but not many people outside of east TX know who he is. I had never heard of him before I traded for this mare when she was a yearling, and if not for her, I still wouldn't know.
He is a very nice horse without a doubt and so happy that he is producing. He was pretty tough to beat himself when he laid one down!
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Location: In The Land of Cotton | Herbie - 2014-06-05 10:35 AM Three 4 Luck - 2014-06-05 9:26 AM CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things. I think you either have to invest a lot of money into promoting a stallion, or have a superstar that wins a bunch of big ones one year. I can think of some others that are in the same boat--lots of outstanding babies winning stuff but not many people know who their daddy is. Jesses Double Dee comes to mind. One of his daughters won the 1D average at the Crawfish Craze race this year by a half a second (won Saturday's race by 3 tenths with almost 400 entered). He's had a bunch of other winners in futurities, rodeos, and barrel races, not just the one, and I am in love with my mare by him, but not many people outside of east TX know who he is. I had never heard of him before I traded for this mare when she was a yearling, and if not for her, I still wouldn't know.
I think for a horse to really be a big deal nation wide, the futurity trainers have to get their hands on a few and we have to read about them in the Barrel Horse News, etc. Publicity, publicity, publicity.
While the horses mentioned are all nice horses - I also agree and think this - the more money you have to promote a stallion, the more people are going to look at it.
Like mentioned - getting them into the hands of the trainers that all they do is futurity is the biggest step. And, again, that takes money.
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| RaNdI sUe - 2014-06-05 9:47 AM Can't forget about The Red Dasher, he has been outstanding thus far not only in futurities, but he is also handling rodeo situations like a pro and his temperament is awesome as well.
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Location: In a happy place | I am a fan of The Red Dasher. And I have a colt by On A Gator (full brother to Lions Share Of Fame) I really do like. |
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Location: British Columbia | Whiteboy - 2014-06-05 7:57 AM
Epic Leader and Slick By Design. If they dont produce then they are really bad because they are breeding some super nice mares.
Agree, these two are getting all the best mares right now. They will be the next greats, I think. |
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| Just Plain Lucky - 2014-06-05 10:07 AM
Firewaterontherocks.
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Can't forget about The Red Dasher, he has been outstanding thus far not only in futurities, but he is also handling rodeo situations like a pro and his temperament is awesome as well.
Very true...I would love to see more of his foals in the south east.
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Location: Oregon | I think On A Gator is going to be one to watch... He hasn't gotten to prove himself with this babies yet but I think he will.. I see his fee increasing rapidly... But I'm biased, I'm breeding to him this year, hopefully friday if the cards are right!! |
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Location: Never in one place long | I"m pretty impressed with ASNY's babies!!! I vote him! |
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Location: In a happy place | ~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-06-05 11:13 AM I think On A Gator is going to be one to watch... He hasn't gotten to prove himself with this babies yet but I think he will.. I see his fee increasing rapidly... But I'm biased, I'm breeding to him this year, hopefully friday if the cards are right!!
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| ~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-06-05 11:13 AM
I think On A Gator is going to be one to watch... He hasn't gotten to prove himself with this babies yet but I think he will.. I see his fee increasing rapidly... But I'm biased, I'm breeding to him this year, hopefully friday if the cards are right!!
I agree. He has two olds at the track now and they sure look good. my trainer has a 3 year old getting patterned now that is looking great. I sure like the bone, size,and attitude that he throws so far. |
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Location: Oregon | sorrel horse ranch - 2014-06-05 11:18 AM
~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-06-05 11:13 AM I think On A Gator is going to be one to watch... He hasn't gotten to prove himself with this babies yet but I think he will.. I see his fee increasing rapidly... But I'm biased, I'm breeding to him this year, hopefully friday if the cards are right!!
I hope your mare gets bred! The disposition on this colt is amazing. If you don't mind keep me posted.
Thank you!! I'm very excited... I was looking at ASOF but then the board here suggested On A Gator and he fits my mare much better. This is my wedding present form my fiance', she is a big 16h buckskin mare that is reining bred. I would love to see pictures of your colt if you have any? I was about to PM asking this
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Location: Oregon | I also think that Technicolours is one that nobody is really looking at yet..... Next time I breed it will be to him which will be a couple years from now. I will breed my paint mare that is in my profile picture to him, once I retire her. I love love his dam side of his breeding and of course his top side doesn't hurt either. |
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| casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 9:27 AM CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things. I really want one of his babies. Really really! IDK what keeps him local either. I do know I've had no success getting emails replied back to when I've emailed about him.. might just have to pick up the phone and call.
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| rodeomom3 - 2014-06-05 12:25 PM casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 9:27 AM CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things. I really want one of his babies. Really really! IDK what keeps him local either. I do know I've had no success getting emails replied back to when I've emailed about him.. might just have to pick up the phone and call.
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| Whiteboy - 2014-06-05 12:29 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-06-05 12:25 PM casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 9:27 AM CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things. I really want one of his babies. Really really! IDK what keeps him local either. I do know I've had no success getting emails replied back to when I've emailed about him.. might just have to pick up the phone and call.
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Location: Desert Land | Whiteboy - 2014-06-05 6:57 AM Epic Leader and Slick By Design. If they dont produce then they are really bad because they are breeding some super nice mares.
I agree. These 2 are getting bred to some of the best mares out there. But I really do think they are both going to be great producers. |
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| rodeomom3 - 2014-06-05 12:34 PM Whiteboy - 2014-06-05 12:29 PM rodeomom3 - 2014-06-05 12:25 PM casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 9:27 AM CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things. I really want one of his babies. Really really! IDK what keeps him local either. I do know I've had no success getting emails replied back to when I've emailed about him.. might just have to pick up the phone and call.
Hey no judgement, I've called my sister in law worse things...although never on a public forum! lol |
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Location: In the Hills of Texas | I can't think of any FWF sons that aren't producing. Says volumes about those genes! I also can't think of one I really don't like either.
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | Nevertooold - 2014-06-05 1:44 PM I can't think of any FWF sons that aren't producing. Says volumes about those genes! I also can't think of one I really don't like either.
I also think the Tres Seis lines are going to show up more and more in the barrel racing results. Can't wait to see what Triple Vodka produces as I'm his #1 fan.
Well I guess that makes me his #2 fan--- I just look at his pic over and over. I almost bought a mare just to breed to him to help a friend in need that had a breeding for sale.
I think Streakin Again although I dont think they will breed many outside mares to him to keep numbers down and value up?? (just seems like that to me)
There are TOO many DTF sons to pick from so I cant pick another at this time.
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Location: East Texas | Herbie - 2014-06-05 9:35 AM Three 4 Luck - 2014-06-05 9:26 AM CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things. I think you either have to invest a lot of money into promoting a stallion, or have a superstar that wins a bunch of big ones one year. I can think of some others that are in the same boat--lots of outstanding babies winning stuff but not many people know who their daddy is. Jesses Double Dee comes to mind. One of his daughters won the 1D average at the Crawfish Craze race this year by a half a second (won Saturday's race by 3 tenths with almost 400 entered). He's had a bunch of other winners in futurities, rodeos, and barrel races, not just the one, and I am in love with my mare by him, but not many people outside of east TX know who he is. I had never heard of him before I traded for this mare when she was a yearling, and if not for her, I still wouldn't know.
I think for a horse to really be a big deal nation wide, the futurity trainers have to get their hands on a few and we have to read about them in the Barrel Horse News, etc. Publicity, publicity, publicity.
We own the filly by JDD that just won the Crawfish Craze. If I could have 10 more of her I would! We are ET her next year and trying to decide who to breed her to, that isnt palomino or buckskin. JDD could be a top sire if he was promoted as a stallion more. We are breeding and have bred to Epic Leader and Firewaterontherocks and I think they are going to be at the top of the sire charts in the years to come. |
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Location: 100 miles from Nowhere, AR | NoGutsNoGlory - 2014-06-05 2:03 PM Herbie - 2014-06-05 9:35 AM Three 4 Luck - 2014-06-05 9:26 AM CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things. I think you either have to invest a lot of money into promoting a stallion, or have a superstar that wins a bunch of big ones one year. I can think of some others that are in the same boat--lots of outstanding babies winning stuff but not many people know who their daddy is. Jesses Double Dee comes to mind. One of his daughters won the 1D average at the Crawfish Craze race this year by a half a second (won Saturday's race by 3 tenths with almost 400 entered). He's had a bunch of other winners in futurities, rodeos, and barrel races, not just the one, and I am in love with my mare by him, but not many people outside of east TX know who he is. I had never heard of him before I traded for this mare when she was a yearling, and if not for her, I still wouldn't know.
I think for a horse to really be a big deal nation wide, the futurity trainers have to get their hands on a few and we have to read about them in the Barrel Horse News, etc. Publicity, publicity, publicity.
She is so freakin nice.  I spotted her in the warm up pen before her Saturday run and knew right off she was a JD baby. I asked Chris after their run if she was and he was like she looks just like him, doesn't she? I bet she will make some super nice babies for you! |
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Location: NE Texas | NoGutsNoGlory - 2014-06-05 2:03 PM Herbie - 2014-06-05 9:35 AM Three 4 Luck - 2014-06-05 9:26 AM CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things. I think you either have to invest a lot of money into promoting a stallion, or have a superstar that wins a bunch of big ones one year. I can think of some others that are in the same boat--lots of outstanding babies winning stuff but not many people know who their daddy is. Jesses Double Dee comes to mind. One of his daughters won the 1D average at the Crawfish Craze race this year by a half a second (won Saturday's race by 3 tenths with almost 400 entered). He's had a bunch of other winners in futurities, rodeos, and barrel races, not just the one, and I am in love with my mare by him, but not many people outside of east TX know who he is. I had never heard of him before I traded for this mare when she was a yearling, and if not for her, I still wouldn't know.
I think for a horse to really be a big deal nation wide, the futurity trainers have to get their hands on a few and we have to read about them in the Barrel Horse News, etc. Publicity, publicity, publicity.
I thought you did....very cool! I've seen a good bit of video of Chris running her as well and she's one nice filly. That should be a pretty cool cross for sure. |
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Location: Texas | Sad day…my Stoli mare is open :( No Slick by Design baby for me next year. Bah Humbug. I'm going to put her under lights and try again early :( :( :( |
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I liked that Fly the Red Eye stud. Don't know how big he'll be but he's nice.
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| casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 3:32 PM Sad day…my Stoli mare is open :( No Slick by Design baby for me next year. Bah Humbug. I'm going to put her under lights and try again early :( :( :(
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Location: Texas | Whiteboy - 2014-06-05 3:41 PM
casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 3:32 PM Sad day…my Stoli mare is open :( No Slick by Design baby for me next year. Bah Humbug. I'm going to put her under lights and try again early :( :( :(
Bummer.
I know :(. My tentative plans for next season are:
Jet of Honor daughter X firewater ta fame
Stoli daughter X slick by design
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Location: At the race track with Ah Dee Ohs | Herbie - 2014-06-05 9:35 AM Three 4 Luck - 2014-06-05 9:26 AM CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things. I think you either have to invest a lot of money into promoting a stallion, or have a superstar that wins a bunch of big ones one year. I can think of some others that are in the same boat--lots of outstanding babies winning stuff but not many people know who their daddy is. Jesses Double Dee comes to mind. One of his daughters won the 1D average at the Crawfish Craze race this year by a half a second (won Saturday's race by 3 tenths with almost 400 entered). He's had a bunch of other winners in futurities, rodeos, and barrel races, not just the one, and I am in love with my mare by him, but not many people outside of east TX know who he is. I had never heard of him before I traded for this mare when she was a yearling, and if not for her, I still wouldn't know.
I think for a horse to really be a big deal nation wide, the futurity trainers have to get their hands on a few and we have to read about them in the Barrel Horse News, etc. Publicity, publicity, publicity.
I agree with Herbie here. I have to thrown in Ivory James and PYC also. PYC already has one that is setting the barrels on fire. |
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Herbie - 2014-06-05 9:35 AM Three 4 Luck - 2014-06-05 9:26 AM CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things. I think you either have to invest a lot of money into promoting a stallion, or have a superstar that wins a bunch of big ones one year. I can think of some others that are in the same boat--lots of outstanding babies winning stuff but not many people know who their daddy is. Jesses Double Dee comes to mind. One of his daughters won the 1D average at the Crawfish Craze race this year by a half a second (won Saturday's race by 3 tenths with almost 400 entered). He's had a bunch of other winners in futurities, rodeos, and barrel races, not just the one, and I am in love with my mare by him, but not many people outside of east TX know who he is. I had never heard of him before I traded for this mare when she was a yearling, and if not for her, I still wouldn't know.
I think for a horse to really be a big deal nation wide, the futurity trainers have to get their hands on a few and we have to read about them in the Barrel Horse News, etc. Publicity, publicity, publicity.
I love Ivory James, Firewaterontherocks, and On A Gator...
Blazin Jet Olena is my horse crush too.... but I think he can be considered already big.
I would say PYC too but am scared at how fast his stud fee is skyrocketing. I don't know how many you will see in the barrel pen unless people find lots off the track still sound. 15k is a lot of $$ for him already, I'd rather breed to DTF or FG and possibly have money left in my pocket after.
ETA: I forgot Firewater Finale and I love everything about him!
I am not a huge fan of On The Money Red, but Slick is intriguing me too.
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Location: In a happy place | jbhoot - 2014-06-05 11:24 AM ~rodeojunkie~ - 2014-06-05 11:13 AM I think On A Gator is going to be one to watch... He hasn't gotten to prove himself with this babies yet but I think he will.. I see his fee increasing rapidly... But I'm biased, I'm breeding to him this year, hopefully friday if the cards are right!! I agree. He has two olds at the track now and they sure look good. my trainer has a 3 year old getting patterned now that is looking great. I sure like the bone, size,and attitude that he throws so far.
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At the beginning of this post a couple of people said A streak of fling as the next big sire. but most of you who i know or assume are very knowledgeable people and "up with the times" ( so to speak) are not even mentioning him.
I would just like to ask why/ whats your reasoning for that.
I mean if someone asked me this question I would have had A streak of fling right near the top along with a few others i really like.
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Location: In a happy place | I guess maybe I misunderstood the title. I was thinking studs that are relatively new on the scene. If it is all inclusive of studs standing today then yes A Streak Of Fling should be included. I would have included Firewater Ta Fame but I included his name one time on an "up and coming" stud list and Shelly called and graciously thanked me but said she thought he was beyond "up and coming." So let me add these to the list.....A Streak Of Fling, Firewater Ta Fame and Lions Share Of Fame.
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Location: In a happy place | SilverCanChaser - 2014-06-05 8:39 PM I have an On A Gator colt too - here is mine - would love to see your's .... my colt is for sale.
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Location: Texas | I like ASOF and I was all ready to breed something to him but I have been watching numbers and for the large crops he has on file,I would like to see more of his babies doing stuff, not the same handful thats been doing well if that makes sense. I don't discredit him at all, and a friend of mine has three of his babies. I just want to see more of them placing at the futurities with the volume of foals he is having. And yes, I know he shipped out of the country so that is in my mind. |
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Location: Oklahoma | CanCan - 2014-06-05 9:00 AM
It should be Reds Western Native. I don't know what's keeping him local. His babies are doing super things.
No kidding. I've said this for several years....all his colts are natural barrel horses....doesn't matter what he's bred to....I've owned 3...one out of a good mare, one out of a so-so mare and one out of a nothing mare, and they all 3 made 1D barrel horses and made them quick. I buy every one I can find that's decently priced. I think he's the best kept secret in the barrel racing world. Now that Whateva and several other get have placed high in the futurities, I bet people start looking at him closer. |
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Location: So. California | Slick By Design
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Location: Royal J Performance Horses, AZ | casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 9:08 PM
I like ASOF and I was all ready to breed something to him but I have been watching numbers and for the large crops he has on file,I would like to see more of his babies doing stuff, not the same handful thats been doing well if that makes sense. I don't discredit him at all, and a friend of mine has three of his babies. I just want to see more of them placing at the futurities with the volume of foals he is having. And yes, I know he shipped out of the country so that is in my mind.
hmm yes thats definitely something to take into consideration.
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casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 9:08 PM
I like ASOF and I was all ready to breed something to him but I have been watching numbers and for the large crops he has on file,I would like to see more of his babies doing stuff, not the same handful thats been doing well if that makes sense. I don't discredit him at all, and a friend of mine has three of his babies. I just want to see more of them placing at the futurities with the volume of foals he is having. And yes, I know he shipped out of the country so that is in my mind.
hmm yes thats definitely something to take into consideration.
Good reasoning, Ty
They didn't market him for barrels at first. He has A TON of his colts that went on to be ranch, roping, and working horses in the early years.
Also, by thinking along these lines you should bred to Nik Dell. Nik Dell has the best futurity and even rodeo earnings for the amount of foals on the ground. Some would attribute this to just Cody but many other trainers have done very well with Nik Dell babies. They don't market him much at all really and I feel he is the best kept little secrete in the futurity circle because it seems that the trainers are the only ones that ever own one! LOL |
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| I'd like to ad another one to the ones to watch list with CEO. Danny Ray is no fool and this stud has very few foals and even fewer that have got into the right hands. But being bred to these better mares and marketing from Danny Ray he will probably be a good one to invest a breeding into! |
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Location: Texas | And just so no one thinks I'm ASOF hating...I love him and want to breed some mares to him. And I didn't think he even qualified as a "next big sire" as he's already been there. Just like BJO- he's been there too. I want one of his babies too <3 <3 |
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Location: The Oklahoma plains. | astreakinchic - 2014-06-06 8:10 AM Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2014-06-06 12:01 AM casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 9:08 PM I like ASOF and I was all ready to breed something to him but I have been watching numbers and for the large crops he has on file,I would like to see more of his babies doing stuff, not the same handful thats been doing well if that makes sense. I don't discredit him at all, and a friend of mine has three of his babies. I just want to see more of them placing at the futurities with the volume of foals he is having. And yes, I know he shipped out of the country so that is in my mind. hmm yes thats definitely something to take into consideration. Good reasoning, Ty They didn't market him for barrels at first. He has A TON of his colts that went on to be ranch, roping, and working horses in the early years. Also, by thinking along these lines you should bred to Nik Dell. Nik Dell has the best futurity and even rodeo earnings for the amount of foals on the ground. Some would attribute this to just Cody but many other trainers have done very well with Nik Dell babies. They don't market him much at all really and I feel he is the best kept little secrete in the futurity circle because it seems that the trainers are the only ones that ever own one! LOL
Really?? He was a running horse that I was around and called a friend of mine as I was leading him down that track that day and said "I have a colored up stud in my hands right now, out of a great mare- they want to sell" He never stood until he sold shortly after and best I know he was always aimed as a barrel sire.
There is not doubt there are some phenominal horses by him. But they dont seem to be everyone's cups of tea. As mentioned, for the numbers he has, I dont like his average. I have friends who are horsemen who have not rebred or bought anymore of them. They sold out and you never saw them again. And these folks raised and trained winners. 
Which is sad because I did like him as individual- and his 3 full siblings that I was around.
As far as PYC and IJ--I agree but seriously, not everyone is in that price bracket just like the DTF era. |
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Location: Texas | TurnLane - 2014-06-06 8:27 AM
astreakinchic - 2014-06-06 8:10 AM Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2014-06-06 12:01 AM casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 9:08 PM I like ASOF and I was all ready to breed something to him but I have been watching numbers and for the large crops he has on file,I would like to see more of his babies doing stuff, not the same handful thats been doing well if that makes sense. I don't discredit him at all, and a friend of mine has three of his babies. I just want to see more of them placing at the futurities with the volume of foals he is having. And yes, I know he shipped out of the country so that is in my mind. hmm yes thats definitely something to take into consideration. Good reasoning, Ty They didn't market him for barrels at first. He has A TON of his colts that went on to be ranch, roping, and working horses in the early years. Also, by thinking along these lines you should bred to Nik Dell. Nik Dell has the best futurity and even rodeo earnings for the amount of foals on the ground. Some would attribute this to just Cody but many other trainers have done very well with Nik Dell babies. They don't market him much at all really and I feel he is the best kept little secrete in the futurity circle because it seems that the trainers are the only ones that ever own one! LOL
There is not doubt there are some phenominal horses by him. But they dont seem to be everyone's cups of tea. As mentioned, for the numbers he has, I dont like his average. I have friends who are horsemen who have not rebred or bought anymore of them. They sold out and you never saw them again. And these folks raised and trained winners. Which is sad because I did like him as individual- and his 3 full siblings that I was around.
As far as PYC and IJ--I agree but seriously, not everyone is in that price bracket just like the DTF era.
Pyc In my opinion is too high for the average barrel breeders to justify breeding to him. But I see lots of people picking them up as 2 and 3 year olds at heritage place.
Ivory James if he stays at 4000 isn't too high yet in my opinion but if they raise him too it'll be the same where I predict more people claiming them or buying them post racing career.
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Location: When you hit the middle of nowhere .. Keep driving | casualdust07 - 2014-06-06 8:33 AM
TurnLane - 2014-06-06 8:27 AM
astreakinchic - 2014-06-06 8:10 AM Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2014-06-06 12:01 AM casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 9:08 PM I like ASOF and I was all ready to breed something to him but I have been watching numbers and for the large crops he has on file,I would like to see more of his babies doing stuff, not the same handful thats been doing well if that makes sense. I don't discredit him at all, and a friend of mine has three of his babies. I just want to see more of them placing at the futurities with the volume of foals he is having. And yes, I know he shipped out of the country so that is in my mind. hmm yes thats definitely something to take into consideration. Good reasoning, Ty They didn't market him for barrels at first. He has A TON of his colts that went on to be ranch, roping, and working horses in the early years. Also, by thinking along these lines you should bred to Nik Dell. Nik Dell has the best futurity and even rodeo earnings for the amount of foals on the ground. Some would attribute this to just Cody but many other trainers have done very well with Nik Dell babies. They don't market him much at all really and I feel he is the best kept little secrete in the futurity circle because it seems that the trainers are the only ones that ever own one! LOL
There is not doubt there are some phenominal horses by him. But they dont seem to be everyone's cups of tea. As mentioned, for the numbers he has, I dont like his average. I have friends who are horsemen who have not rebred or bought anymore of them. They sold out and you never saw them again. And these folks raised and trained winners. Which is sad because I did like him as individual- and his 3 full siblings that I was around.
As far as PYC and IJ--I agree but seriously, not everyone is in that price bracket just like the DTF era.
Pyc In my opinion is too high for the average barrel breeders to justify breeding to him. But I see lots of people picking them up as 2 and 3 year olds at heritage place.
Ivory James if he stays at 4000 isn't too high yet in my opinion but if they raise him too it'll be the same where I predict more people claiming them or buying them post racing career.
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Location: Texas | ndiehl - 2014-06-06 8:36 AM
casualdust07 - 2014-06-06 8:33 AM
TurnLane - 2014-06-06 8:27 AM
astreakinchic - 2014-06-06 8:10 AM Fancie_That_Chrome_ - 2014-06-06 12:01 AM casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 9:08 PM I like ASOF and I was all ready to breed something to him but I have been watching numbers and for the large crops he has on file,I would like to see more of his babies doing stuff, not the same handful thats been doing well if that makes sense. I don't discredit him at all, and a friend of mine has three of his babies. I just want to see more of them placing at the futurities with the volume of foals he is having. And yes, I know he shipped out of the country so that is in my mind. hmm yes thats definitely something to take into consideration. Good reasoning, Ty They didn't market him for barrels at first. He has A TON of his colts that went on to be ranch, roping, and working horses in the early years. Also, by thinking along these lines you should bred to Nik Dell. Nik Dell has the best futurity and even rodeo earnings for the amount of foals on the ground. Some would attribute this to just Cody but many other trainers have done very well with Nik Dell babies. They don't market him much at all really and I feel he is the best kept little secrete in the futurity circle because it seems that the trainers are the only ones that ever own one! LOL
There is not doubt there are some phenominal horses by him. But they dont seem to be everyone's cups of tea. As mentioned, for the numbers he has, I dont like his average. I have friends who are horsemen who have not rebred or bought anymore of them. They sold out and you never saw them again. And these folks raised and trained winners. Which is sad because I did like him as individual- and his 3 full siblings that I was around.
As far as PYC and IJ--I agree but seriously, not everyone is in that price bracket just like the DTF era.
Pyc In my opinion is too high for the average barrel breeders to justify breeding to him. But I see lots of people picking them up as 2 and 3 year olds at heritage place.
Ivory James if he stays at 4000 isn't too high yet in my opinion but if they raise him too it'll be the same where I predict more people claiming them or buying them post racing career.
Yup yup. I also agree.
Which is fine by me because that's how I got my shazoom and my stoli! And my Strawflyin buds didn't have a stellar race career either. Give me race horse flunkies any day!! |
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Location: tennessee | Slick By Design.They already have 120 + mares in foal to him.Most of the big name winning mares have been bred to him this year.The only other stud used for barrel racing that i know of that has had that big of a book is Dash Ta Fame,numbers of foals help get the studs on the leader board. Slick By Design is a outstanding horse in his own right and is out promoting himself every day. If he sires the working abilty he has got he will be the next leading sire.If the foals take after there mothers with the high class mothers he has bred,he will be the leading sire. Seems like a win,win on his part. |
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Location: Northeast SD | I'm thinking A Smooth Guy will be producing some awesome futurity colts in the near future. Lots of them in good hands already |
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Location: Wearing a winter coat...... | There are very few studs that I think of as SIRES. Lots of sperm donors and lots more that should be geldings. With saying that, I really think BJO will be just as big as DTF. He is a sire. He is throwing himself and crossing well on different mares. I will admit, I was a doubter myself but now I have him booked next year already plus a mare in foal to him now (Fingers crossed). I really think he will get bigger even tho he is already hot. I bet his stud fee jumps again. |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Herbie - 2014-06-05 9:05 AM Blazin Jetolena, kind of already is, but I think he's going to continue to produce and his offspring is going to be in high demand. I know i'd sure love to have one!
I also know that some of the El Scorcho babies have gotten into very capable hands. I'm anxious to see how they do!
Man, you and me both lol. They sent me a picture of the 2 year old out of the SB mare 2 days ago and she is huge. I don't know how I am going to make it until they get to the pattern. It's literally killing me to wait lol. |
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Location: NE Texas | LRQHS - 2014-06-06 10:39 AM Herbie - 2014-06-05 9:05 AM Blazin Jetolena, kind of already is, but I think he's going to continue to produce and his offspring is going to be in high demand. I know i'd sure love to have one!
I also know that some of the El Scorcho babies have gotten into very capable hands. I'm anxious to see how they do!
Man, you and me both lol. They sent me a picture of the 2 year old out of the SB mare 2 days ago and she is huge. I don't know how I am going to make it until they get to the pattern. It's literally killing me to wait lol.
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | Herbie - 2014-06-06 10:56 AM LRQHS - 2014-06-06 10:39 AM Herbie - 2014-06-05 9:05 AM Blazin Jetolena, kind of already is, but I think he's going to continue to produce and his offspring is going to be in high demand. I know i'd sure love to have one!
I also know that some of the El Scorcho babies have gotten into very capable hands. I'm anxious to see how they do!
Man, you and me both lol. They sent me a picture of the 2 year old out of the SB mare 2 days ago and she is huge. I don't know how I am going to make it until they get to the pattern. It's literally killing me to wait lol.
Let me see if I can. This new Walmart phone is a huge piece of crap. I'll try :) |
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Location: DUMPING CATS AND PIGS IN TEXAS :) | LRQHS - 2014-06-06 11:00 AM Herbie - 2014-06-06 10:56 AM LRQHS - 2014-06-06 10:39 AM Herbie - 2014-06-05 9:05 AM Blazin Jetolena, kind of already is, but I think he's going to continue to produce and his offspring is going to be in high demand. I know i'd sure love to have one!
I also know that some of the El Scorcho babies have gotten into very capable hands. I'm anxious to see how they do!
Man, you and me both lol. They sent me a picture of the 2 year old out of the SB mare 2 days ago and she is huge. I don't know how I am going to make it until they get to the pattern. It's literally killing me to wait lol.
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Location: Wonderful Wyoming | I think Firewater Finale will be in a couple of years. Amy has bred him to some super super mares. Her winning daughters of DTF and Tres Seis and many others. They are so trainable and I have heard they are in some top hands as well. It just takes so many years for a sire (who competed himself) to have his own offspring old enough to start to compete. |
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| Glad to see someone finally put A Smooth Guy on this list! Takes time for own sons of Frenchmans Guy to get there but he will....
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| I love my boy BHR Frenchies Socks! My 6 year old by him made the derby finals at Ft Smith with a 16.81 and he drug the first with his hip in the finals and eased through after that and was a 16.71 talk about make you sick to your stomach! Also my 5 year old Easy Goin Guy had a 17.1 in the trials and drug the first or he would have made it back and he runs in a smooth mouth O-Ring with no tie-down! I LOVE LOVE LOVE my BHR FS babies and if people overlook him that's fine by me I will have some for myself! Lol! We have our first cross with him on a DTF daughter for next year and have bred better mares year after year so it should be a very exciting future!!!! |
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| Just cerious no body mentioned JL dash ta heaven..... I rember a threat like this a few years ago and everybody was positive he was the next big thing, how old are his get? They doing anything? Was just surprised he wasent brought up.
I love blazin jet oleana. I had to pick up his shipment for my vet when I went to get my semen, had a long talk with that box on the drive back from calgary, it was never aloud to beat me ever at any races lol.
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JL dash ta heaven will have a first crop of 2 foals next year, if they make it to the arena. His first real crop will be in 16. They should do good, but at that price tag, most will be out of Juds program.
For some reason I thought he has been breeding for a few years, since his futerity year? I thought I read shed have to take him to be collected on the way to one. I must be rather mixed up on what stud that article was about!! LoL
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Location: Where I am happiest | della - 2014-06-06 4:15 PM Whiteboy - 2014-06-06 3:12 PM JL dash ta heaven will have a first crop of 2 foals next year, if they make it to the arena. His first real crop will be in 16. They should do good, but at that price tag, most will be out of Juds program. For some reason I thought he has been breeding for a few years, since his futerity year? I thought I read shed have to take him to be collected on the way to one. I must be rather mixed up on what stud that article was about!! LoL
No kidding! $5000 is a little steep for one with no performers yet. Firewaterontherocks is $3500 for 2015. Frenchmans Fabulous is sure sireing some big time winners. He's at $1,850. Blazen Jetolena is another one who is sure putting alot of top horses out there. I will be interested to see what Epic Leader and Slick By Design put on the ground. They sure have bred alot of VERY good mares so if they dont make much noise, it sure wont be because of lack of mare power under them nor will it be because they didnt get in to the top hands. |
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Location: Texas | casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 3:32 PM Sad day…my Stoli mare is open :( No Slick by Design baby for me next year. Bah Humbug. I'm going to put her under lights and try again early :( :( :(
Is this the mare that you had bought to rodeo on and then got sick? It's been awhile and I always liked hearing your updates for her.. I thought I remembered something about breeding her but wasn't sure lol |
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Location: Texas | outrundaizy - 2014-06-06 8:18 PM
casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 3:32 PM Sad day…my Stoli mare is open :( No Slick by Design baby for me next year. Bah Humbug. I'm going to put her under lights and try again early :( :( :(
Is this the mare that you had bought to rodeo on and then got sick? It's been awhile and I always liked hearing your updates for her.. I thought I remembered something about breeding her but wasn't sure lol
No that mare had a beautiful filly this year and I am legging her back up to run :) :) :) :) :)
This mare was one we bought to be a broodmare… but since she is open I am debating using the Slick breeding on maybe Lucy (the mare you asked about) in the spring if I decide to breed her.. can't decide.. as you can see my mind has changed since like2 pages ago…
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della - 2014-06-06 4:15 PM Whiteboy - 2014-06-06 3:12 PM JL dash ta heaven will have a first crop of 2 foals next year, if they make it to the arena. His first real crop will be in 16. They should do good, but at that price tag, most will be out of Juds program. For some reason I thought he has been breeding for a few years, since his futerity year? I thought I read shed have to take him to be collected on the way to one. I must be rather mixed up on what stud that article was about!! LoL
I didnt even know what his stud fee is, I just remembered his futerity year lots of people thought he was the next great sire and I never seen him mentioned so I was just cerious as to what's happned to him is all. |
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Location: Texas | casualdust07 - 2014-06-06 10:36 PM outrundaizy - 2014-06-06 8:18 PM casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 3:32 PM Sad day…my Stoli mare is open :( No Slick by Design baby for me next year. Bah Humbug. I'm going to put her under lights and try again early :( :( :( Is this the mare that you had bought to rodeo on and then got sick? It's been awhile and I always liked hearing your updates for her.. I thought I remembered something about breeding her but wasn't sure lol No that mare had a beautiful filly this year and I am legging her back up to run : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) This mare was one we bought to be a broodmare… but since she is open I am debating using the Slick breeding on maybe Lucy (the mare you asked about ) in the spring if I decide to breed her.. can't decide.. as you can see my mind has changed since like2 pages ago…
Oooohhh! That is a beautiful baby but I say if all goes well when you start running her, don't stop!! You two were a great team. I am a slick fan though, I think whichever mare you use your breeding on will have a phenominal foal |
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Location: Texas | outrundaizy - 2014-06-07 12:13 AM
casualdust07 - 2014-06-06 10:36 PM outrundaizy - 2014-06-06 8:18 PM casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 3:32 PM Sad day…my Stoli mare is open :( No Slick by Design baby for me next year. Bah Humbug. I'm going to put her under lights and try again early :( :( :( Is this the mare that you had bought to rodeo on and then got sick? It's been awhile and I always liked hearing your updates for her.. I thought I remembered something about breeding her but wasn't sure lol No that mare had a beautiful filly this year and I am legging her back up to run : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) This mare was one we bought to be a broodmare… but since she is open I am debating using the Slick breeding on maybe Lucy (the mare you asked about ) in the spring if I decide to breed her.. can't decide.. as you can see my mind has changed since like2 pages ago…
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Location: In a happy place | casualdust07 - 2014-06-07 5:54 AM outrundaizy - 2014-06-07 12:13 AM casualdust07 - 2014-06-06 10:36 PM outrundaizy - 2014-06-06 8:18 PM casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 3:32 PM Sad day…my Stoli mare is open :( No Slick by Design baby for me next year. Bah Humbug. I'm going to put her under lights and try again early :( :( :( Is this the mare that you had bought to rodeo on and then got sick? It's been awhile and I always liked hearing your updates for her.. I thought I remembered something about breeding her but wasn't sure lol No that mare had a beautiful filly this year and I am legging her back up to run : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) This mare was one we bought to be a broodmare… but since she is open I am debating using the Slick breeding on maybe Lucy (the mare you asked about ) in the spring if I decide to breed her.. can't decide.. as you can see my mind has changed since like2 pages ago… Thanks! It's going to be a tough decision for sure!
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Location: north dakota | I really like Firewater Ta Fame, A Smooth Guy and Firewater Finale. I have a really nice Firewater Ta Fame filly that's 3 weeks old. I'm breeding a mare this year to A Smooth Guy that crosses well on Sunfrost/ Frenchman Guy. (She has a really nice Frostman San Peppy filly on her side. Frostman San Peppy has produced some really nice barrel horses, but he's not a new sire). I also am breeding a mare to Firewater Finale next year. She's already produced a nice foal from him.
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| letzgiddyup - 2014-06-06 3:31 PM
I love my boy BHR Frenchies Socks! My 6 year old by him made the derby finals at Ft Smith with a 16.81 and he drug the first with his hip in the finals and eased through after that and was a 16.71 talk about make you sick to your stomach! Also my 5 year old Easy Goin Guy had a 17.1 in the trials and drug the first or he would have made it back and he runs in a smooth mouth O-Ring with no tie-down! I LOVE LOVE LOVE my BHR FS babies and if people overlook him that's fine by me I will have some for myself! Lol! We have our first cross with him on a DTF daughter for next year and have bred better mares year after year so it should be a very exciting future!!!!
I like him ALOT too! I remember getting to watch him run in I think Broken Bow and loved him! His babies also look fun to ride!!!
LOL... I also remember looking at Kiss This Guy tied to the fence at the BBR and the drool coming out of my mouth! :-)
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| Slick ended up breeding between 225-240 mares this season. We feel very blessed so many people have seen in him what we see. Not very many studs can be in the breeding barn and on the road running at the same time and mentally handle it. It doesn't seem to even phase him. He loves his job of being at the barrel races. Thank you again to all of the supporters of Slick. |
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Location: Where I am happiest | westrnridr - 2014-06-07 8:18 PM Slick ended up breeding between 225-240 mares this season. We feel very blessed so many people have seen in him what we see. Not very many studs can be in the breeding barn and on the road running at the same time and mentally handle it. It doesn't seem to even phase him. He loves his job of being at the barrel races. Thank you again to all of the supporters of Slick.
WOW! That is impressive!! To be able to both compete at the top level, AND breed that many mares and maintane semen count while on the road. |
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Location: tennessee | westrnridr - 2014-06-08 7:18 PM Slick ended up breeding between 225-240 mares this season. We feel very blessed so many people have seen in him what we see. Not very many studs can be in the breeding barn and on the road running at the same time and mentally handle it. It doesn't seem to even phase him. He loves his job of being at the barrel races. Thank you again to all of the supporters of Slick.
Do you think it will hurt the resale value of his foals by breeding that many mares? |
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| In my opinion the horse market doesn't work like that. I buy a horse for the quality of that horse. If I am at a huge barrel race and the top 3 horses are all from the same sire I'm not going to not breed to that sire or not want one of his offspring because there where too many of his babies winning. If anything I am going to breed to him next year. I'm sure everyone will have their own opinion on this so I guess time will tell.
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Location: Arkansas | Wow, definitely LOTS of food for thought!! My Lajollas Gold daughter has a filly by Ain't Seen Nothin Yet by her side and is being bred to Mr.Cinnamon Roll for next year. My Scrutinizer mare is being bred to ASNY for a 2015 foal. |
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Location: Cocoa, Florida | I've been following the bhr frenchie socks Colts on Facebook and it looks like they're kicking some butt in the futurities. Of course I could be biased because he's standing in FL but I like their style and it would make a good cross with my packin sixes mare.
I would say slick by design would be the next up and coming big sire, a lot mentioned earlier are already pretty popular. I'd like to see what the next big superstar lineage will be, there's so many great ones already! |
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| I'm a huge Ain't Seen Nothin Yet fan. I have a filly by him now that is gorgeous and breeding two back next year. Can't go wrong with his pedigree ! Not to mention he looks more like his sire then any other I have seen and sure stamps his foals with that same look. |
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Location: High heels in the air... | Slick by Design hands down...outstanding horse, top notch owners... |
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| What about Tres Seis? He maybe priced a little too high for the barrel industry though |
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Location: Way down yonder in the indian nation~Oklahoma | Not sure if the stallions name is French Brigadier or Frenchman's Brigadier ... either way he's a Frenchman's Guy/Trouble In Texas horse that is very under promoted. I own a five year old by him, and know of several others in this area that are really really nice horses. I believe one of the colts did really well at the Greg Olsen Futurity... I'm at work and can't really check my sources right now... so if anyone knows the true scoop feel free to correct me... I'm really excited about my colt, and I know that the ones I've seen in action have all been impressive! But I'm afraid that this stallion is going to end up being a well kept secret~ |
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That's White "Man" to You
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| I think most- if not all the Frenchman guy sons are producing pretty good. The problem is that there are soooo many of them that none of them can get enough foals on the ground to really stand out. The only exception to this is frenchmans fabulous, and that is likely because he is on the older end of the spectrum. |
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Whack and Roll
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Location: NE Texas | I have a Frenchmans Fabulous daughter i'm riding for a BB right now to start on the pattern and i'd sure take another one to ride! She's the first Fab i've ever ridden, and was VERY nicely broke when she came to be, so that in itself makes my job easier, but she's an athlete and in a week she is handily loping a nice pattern. I have ridden some own daughters of FG and I think I like this Fab mare better. VERY nice mare!!!
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That's White "Man" to You
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| I bet. I think all the fg grandget are great, especially when crossed on the right mare and broke by the right trainer. But like I said before the Fabs are one of the few to stand on their own, rather than just on fg's name. Another one I am watching is Guys Real Deal. Pozzi is laying down some really nice runs on the one she has. While they are nice horses, I dont see them becoming the next DTF. |
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Location: Deep South | Herbie - 2014-06-09 12:59 PM
I have a Frenchmans Fabulous daughter i'm riding for a BB right now to start on the pattern and i'd sure take another one to ride! She's the first Fab i've ever ridden, and was VERY nicely broke when she came to be, so that in itself makes my job easier, but she's an athlete and in a week she is handily loping a nice pattern. I have ridden some own daughters of FG and I think I like this Fab mare better. VERY nice mare!!!
Yes she is Herbie!! Saw your video of her. Me likee! :)) |
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Location: Land Of Oz | TXracer - 2014-06-08 3:29 PM Wow, definitely LOTS of food for thought!! My Lajollas Gold daughter has a filly by Ain't Seen Nothin Yet by her side and is being bred to Mr.Cinnamon Roll for next year. My Scrutinizer mare is being bred to ASNY for a 2015 foal.
I would really like to breed something to Mr. Cinnamon Roll as I just love my RTC daughter.  |
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Location: NE Texas | BamaCanChaser - 2014-06-09 3:17 PM Herbie - 2014-06-09 12:59 PM I have a Frenchmans Fabulous daughter i'm riding for a BB right now to start on the pattern and i'd sure take another one to ride! She's the first Fab i've ever ridden, and was VERY nicely broke when she came to be, so that in itself makes my job easier, but she's an athlete and in a week she is handily loping a nice pattern. I have ridden some own daughters of FG and I think I like this Fab mare better. VERY nice mare!!! Yes she is Herbie!! Saw your video of her. Me likee! : ) )
Well thank you, Bama! It's a pleasure to get to start her and bring her along. As for videos....I've seen that yours are making progress as well. Very nice job! |
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| casualdust07 - 2014-06-06 10:36 PM
outrundaizy - 2014-06-06 8:18 PM
casualdust07 - 2014-06-05 3:32 PM Sad day…my Stoli mare is open :( No Slick by Design baby for me next year. Bah Humbug. I'm going to put her under lights and try again early :( :( :(
Is this the mare that you had bought to rodeo on and then got sick? It's been awhile and I always liked hearing your updates for her.. I thought I remembered something about breeding her but wasn't sure lol
No that mare had a beautiful filly this year and I am legging her back up to run : ) : ) : ) : ) : )
This mare was one we bought to be a broodmare… but since she is open I am debating using the Slick breeding on maybe Lucy (the mare you asked about ) in the spring if I decide to breed her.. can't decide.. as you can see my mind has changed since like2 pages ago…
WHAT AN ATHLETIC LOOKING BABY!!!!! |
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| Ima Firefighter! |
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| BamaCanChaser - 2014-06-09 3:17 PM Herbie - 2014-06-09 12:59 PM I have a Frenchmans Fabulous daughter i'm riding for a BB right now to start on the pattern and i'd sure take another one to ride! She's the first Fab i've ever ridden, and was VERY nicely broke when she came to be, so that in itself makes my job easier, but she's an athlete and in a week she is handily loping a nice pattern. I have ridden some own daughters of FG and I think I like this Fab mare better. VERY nice mare!!! Yes she is Herbie!! Saw your video of her. Me likee! : ) )
The difference with Frenchmans Fabulous may be the maternal line he has. While its always great to breed close up to the big name (as in FG himself) Caseys Charm sure isn't doing anything but improving the lines. |
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Location: "Si Fi" Ville | REDS WESTERN NATIVE!!!! His babies are making a name at the futurities, division racing, and rodeos. I was curious and looked at the futurity sire numbers. He has been bred to all kind mares and have seen him produce on all. His get really showed themselves at the recent futurities.
I made the decision, pulled the trigger, and will be picking up my black colt of a VF mare Wednesday!!! |
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Location: Home of the World Famous "Silver Bullet" | bhr frenchie socks |
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Location: Deep South | Herbie - 2014-06-09 4:17 PM
BamaCanChaser - 2014-06-09 3:17 PM Herbie - 2014-06-09 12:59 PM I have a Frenchmans Fabulous daughter i'm riding for a BB right now to start on the pattern and i'd sure take another one to ride! She's the first Fab i've ever ridden, and was VERY nicely broke when she came to be, so that in itself makes my job easier, but she's an athlete and in a week she is handily loping a nice pattern. I have ridden some own daughters of FG and I think I like this Fab mare better. VERY nice mare!!! Yes she is Herbie!! Saw your video of her. Me likee! : ) )
Thank ya mam! I'm happy to have something far enough along to haul now! Seems like I've been starting colts forever. :)) |
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Queen Bean of Ponyland
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Location: WYOMING | As wonderful as all these sires mentioned are my guess is the next BIG barrel sire isnt even on this list... |
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Location: Finally horseback again.... | Herbie - 2014-06-09 12:59 PM I have a Frenchmans Fabulous daughter i'm riding for a BB right now to start on the pattern and i'd sure take another one to ride! She's the first Fab i've ever ridden, and was VERY nicely broke when she came to be, so that in itself makes my job easier, but she's an athlete and in a week she is handily loping a nice pattern. I have ridden some own daughters of FG and I think I like this Fab mare better. VERY nice mare!!!
Awww. thank you girl!!!
You are doing so good with her
I really appreciate your hard work with her!!!
She has been an athlete since the day I started her. Super nice heel horse and anything you show her, shes got.
I would definitely take another Fab baby in a heartbeat. I like their versatility and the responsiveness.
I personally think he is actually under rated for the type of horses he is producing.
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