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Another year without a Crown :(
svincent
Reg. Feb 2012
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Reg. Dec 2003
Posted 2014-06-07 6:03 PM
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Reg. Jun 2012
Posted 2014-06-07 6:04 PM
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There's always next year! I just want to see a Triple Crown within my lifetime!
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 So who upset and took the crown away from CCrown?
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Posted 2014-06-07 6:10 PM
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WhupNRide
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Posted 2014-06-07 6:19 PM
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 CC's owner is making quite a spectacle of himself..  I understand him being bitter...but he's lost his dignity. I agree with him about the other horses being fresh, but I don't think he should be spouting it out right after the race. IMHO
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svincent
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2014-06-07 6:21 PM
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WhupNRide - 2014-06-07 6:19 PM

 CC's owner is making quite a spectacle of himself..  I understand him being bitter...but he's lost his dignity. I agree with him about the other horses being fresh, but I don't think he should be spouting it out right after the race. IMHO

His wife sure didn't look happy with him in the background. Losing is hard, but on such a grand stage you've really got to watch your P's and Q's :(
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-06-07 6:22 PM
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The owner of CC needs to count his blessings and handle this with pride and dignity.    
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ridejg
Reg. Jan 2009
Posted 2014-06-07 6:31 PM
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He does have a point..even tho it is being said in the heat of the moment...it is not a level playing field, when fresh horses are allowed to race in the Belmont, and skip either the Derby/Preakness...I am thinking there would be a lot more Triple Crown Winners if this was the rule.
 
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stayceem
Reg. May 2007
Posted 2014-06-07 6:32 PM
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But thats what makes the triple crown winner so damn special... is that they can win aganist anything. They truly are the best! I wouldnt like it if the triple crown were easy and won all the time.
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svincent
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2014-06-07 6:35 PM
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ridejg - 2014-06-07 6:31 PM

He does have a point..even tho it is being said in the heat of the moment...it is not a level playing field, when fresh horses are allowed to race in the Belmont, and skip either the Derby/Preakness...I am thinking there would be a lot more Triple Crown Winners if this was the rule.
 

But then that takes away the prestige/the point. The Triple Crown would become just another set of races at that point. I personally don't want to see a Triple Crown every year - where's the excitement in that?
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roanrider
Reg. Apr 2004
Posted 2014-06-07 6:36 PM
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Reg. Feb 2011
Posted 2014-06-07 6:39 PM
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svincent - 2014-06-07 6:21 PM

WhupNRide - 2014-06-07 6:19 PM

 CC's owner is making quite a spectacle of himself..  I understand him being bitter...but he's lost his dignity. I agree with him about the other horses being fresh, but I don't think he should be spouting it out right after the race. IMHO

His wife sure didn't look happy with him in the background. Losing is hard, but on such a grand stage you've really got to watch your P's and Q's :(

I agree. I have lost some respect for him. It's been like this forever and is part of what makes a horse race and the triple crown. A horse will win again I still have faith.

I am broken hearted for the trainer Mr Sherman seems like a good person and very knowledgeable horse person
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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2014-06-07 6:48 PM
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A true Champion of sports most coveted and elusive prize needs to be able to take on all comers under all circumstances and over come it all. I hear the same lemmings from so many on the same front as CC's owner, however, it really would take away from the magnitude of the accomplishment. 
 I feel for CC's owner and one of the things I liked about him most was he wasnt afraid to show his emotions. It was so touching to see him cry in Victory. Those emotions are right on the surface and the down side of that was his rant. It  was in the heat of the moment and raw emotions out of check. I am sure tomarrow he would have had a different delivery of his responce. At least I hope so. lol. The loss in all probability also cost them tens of millions as his stud value would have sky rocketed as a Triple Crown winner. So I do understand.
 They will take CC home, give him a much needed and deserved rest, and we will see him on Breeders Cup day and earning Horse Of The Year!

 

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Reg. Nov 2007
Posted 2014-06-07 6:52 PM
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WhupNRide - 2014-06-07 6:19 PM  CC's owner is making quite a spectacle of himself..  I understand him being bitter...but he's lost his dignity. I agree with him about the other horses being fresh, but I don't think he should be spouting it out right after the race. IMHO

Thank you!  I totally agree with you.   
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Reg. Oct 2009
Posted 2014-06-07 6:54 PM
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ThreeCorners - 2014-06-07 4:48 PM

A true Champion of sports most coveted and elusive prize needs to be able to take on all comers under all circumstances and over come it all. I hear the same lemmings from so many on the same front as CC's owner, however, it really would take away from the magnitude of the accomplishment. 
 I feel for CC's owner and one of the things I liked about him most was he wasnt afraid to show his emotions. It was so touching to see him cry in Victory. Those emotions are right on the surface and the down side of that was his rant. It  was in the heat of the moment and raw emotions out of check. I am sure tomarrow he would have had a different delivery of his responce. At least I hope so. lol. The loss in all probability also cost them tens of millions as his stud value would have sky rocketed as a Triple Crown winner. So I do understand.
 They will take CC home, give him a much needed and deserved rest, and we will see him on Breeders Cup day and earning Horse Of The Year!

 

I agree, I think it shows that he's just emotionally attached to his horse. He didn't seem mad about not winning the Triple Crown so much as he felt like his horse tried his heart out but it wasn't enough. It seemed like it was more of an emotional, defending his horse type of rant rather than a throwing-your-sucker-in-dirt tantrum.

I agree with him to an extent ONLY in the fact that it doesn't make sense to me that the Derby you have to qualify for but you don't have to qualify for the other two. I agree that it takes a special horse to overcome all adversity and still win, but from a technical standpoint it doesn't make sense that you just have to work to qualify for the first one but not the Preakness or Belmont.
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Anniemae
Reg. Jan 2004
Posted 2014-06-07 7:04 PM
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ThreeCorners - 2014-06-07 4:48 PM A true Champion of sports most coveted and elusive prize needs to be able to take on all comers under all circumstances and over come it all. I hear the same lemmings from so many on the same front as CC's owner, however, it really would take away from the magnitude of the accomplishment. 

 I feel for CC's owner and one of the things I liked about him most was he wasnt afraid to show his emotions. It was so touching to see him cry in Victory. Those emotions are right on the surface and the down side of that was his rant. It  was in the heat of the moment and raw emotions out of check. I am sure tomarrow he would have had a different delivery of his responce. At least I hope so. lol. The loss in all probability also cost them tens of millions as his stud value would have sky rocketed as a Triple Crown winner. So I do understand.

 They will take CC home, give him a much needed and deserved rest, and we will see him on Breeders Cup day and earning Horse Of The Year!


 

I agree 110%  The TC should be awarded only to the exceptional of exceptional, regradless of circumstances.  Next someone will demand delaying the race due to a sloppy track, too much crowd noise or whatever circumstance might come into play.

I believe he will regret those words said in the heat of the moment.  He has passion, just not the experience to zip up...   

 
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jbhoot
Reg. Jan 2010
Posted 2014-06-07 7:10 PM
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This is why there has only been 11 Triple Crown winners....IT IS NOT EASY!!!!
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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2014-06-07 7:13 PM
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jbhoot - 2014-06-07 7:10 PM

This is why there has only been 11 Triple Crown winners....IT IS NOT EASY!!!!

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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2014-06-07 7:37 PM
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This says CC cut his leg leaving the starting gate.
 
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/jun/07/california-chrome-loses-belmont-triple-crown/
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barrelracin85
Reg. May 2005
Posted 2014-06-07 8:05 PM
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ThreeCorners - 2014-06-07 7:37 PM

This says CC cut his leg leaving the starting gate.
 
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/jun/07/california-chrome-loses-belmont-triple-crown/

Here is another article

http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/2089774-california-chrome-inju...

Hrtv says he grabbed his heel bulb.
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yankeeredneck
Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2014-06-07 9:51 PM
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ThreeCorners - 2014-06-07 7:37 PM This says CC cut his leg leaving the starting gate.

 
http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2014/jun/07/california-chrome-loses-belmont-triple-crown/

And this Newsday article has a picture of the injury http://www.newsday.com/long-island/nassau/big-crowd-big-disappointment-at-belmont-1.8368063
 
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OhMax
Reg. Feb 2013
Posted 2014-06-07 10:00 PM
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Saw a picture of the break from the gate on FB - Matterhorn broke to the right and stepped on his front left heel bulb. Owie! Max probably would have thrown himself on the ground and waved his hoof in the air - what heart he had to race the way he did.
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Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2014-06-07 10:01 PM
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Here's the injury pic from Newsday Article 



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ThreeCorners
Reg. Nov 2003
Posted 2014-06-07 10:57 PM
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How do they know another horse stepped on him? I think it looks more like a over-reach. Especially with it on the inside of the front heel. Be pretty hard for another horse to reach around his leg to clip him on the inside. However he sustained the injury, those are a painfull injury and very well could have played a part in his lack of his usual form.  
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Reg. May 2006
Posted 2014-06-07 11:07 PM
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ThreeCorners - 2014-06-07 10:57 PM How do they know another horse stepped on him? I think it looks more like a over-reach. Especially with it on the inside of the front heel. Be pretty hard for another horse to reach around his leg to clip him on the inside. However he sustained the injury, those are a painfull injury and very well could have played a part in his lack of his usual form.  

There is a picture of the other horse clipping him..... 
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Reg. Feb 2007
Posted 2014-06-07 11:39 PM
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ThreeCorners - 2014-06-07 10:57 PM How do they know another horse stepped on him? I think it looks more like a over-reach. Especially with it on the inside of the front heel. Be pretty hard for another horse to reach around his leg to clip him on the inside. However he sustained the injury, those are a painfull injury and very well could have played a part in his lack of his usual form.  
There is a picture of the other horse clipping him..... 

This thread has the clipping picture and NTO posted another pic with a different angle of the hoof injury..........http://forums.barrelhorseworld.com/forum/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=450578&posts=57&start=41
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svincent
Reg. Feb 2012
Posted 2014-06-07 11:44 PM
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It definitely is one heck of an injury. I'd say a tie for fourth with a chunk taken out of your heel is pretty admirable. He had the heart to win it, that's for sure :(
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Reg. Nov 2006
Posted 2014-06-07 11:49 PM
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The jockeys were so lucky that they didnt have a wreck coming out of the gates. 
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