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Location: The edge of no where | Who's done it? What kind of issues were you having? Did it help?
What lab did you use?
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Location: 31 lengths farms | I had it done on my two mares, my one mare we knew had kidney stones, her hair analysis came back Kidney, Immune and Lymph. Since starting the herbs, about 2 weeks into them she hasnt' passed blood in her urine again even after being exercised (which was our first indication that something was wrong...)
The other mare I had done, she has Head Shakers syndrome ,her's came back TMJ on the right side and kidney showed up also on hers. I had actually put all of my horses on the kidney herbs figuring they have all eaten basically the same diet so the fact her hair analysis came up with kidney showing didn't surprise me. I have not had to give her the RX med for headshakers since I started her on the herbs for joints either. Before I was having to give her the Cyrpo about 1/2 hour to 45 minutes before I wanted to ride. Not needing to do that now.
I sent mine to a woman at :
runninghranch.com but Sassy&Tessa gave me another place in TX that does it also, I've misplaced the name now however. |
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Location: louisiana | how does this work? and who do you send the hair to?
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Location: 31 lengths farms | Again, I sent mine to Kristen Holt at runninghranch.com, check out the website, has some more details about services she provides.
She had me take between a pencil and a pinky fingers (as far as thickness) amount of hair from the poll right between the ears and band it for her. She happens to live not too far away from me so I took it to her, but she has a service to send it to her and she runs the analysis and can make some recommendations for at least herbs that she feels would help as that is what she deals in. The other place in TX that was recommended I think was a vet clinic but for the life of me I cannot remember the name of it...Sassy& Tessa had given it to me.
This might be it...
http://www.depaoloequineconcepts.com/pages/horse-hair-analysis
the one I used is...:
http://www.runninghranch.com/Equine-Energetic-Evaluation.html
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Location: The edge of no where | Wow... there's just a bit of a price difference between the two. |
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Hungarian Midget Woman
Location: Midwest | I'm not a believer
I have never done it myself, but the science doesn't jive with me. |
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| barrelracr131 - 2014-06-10 2:39 PM I'm not a believer
I have never done it myself, but the science doesn't jive with me.
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Location: Midwest | Whiteboy - 2014-06-10 2:50 PM barrelracr131 - 2014-06-10 2:39 PM I'm not a believer
I have never done it myself, but the science doesn't jive with me. Party Pooper!
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Location: Sunny So Cal | I don't prefer it because the hair tells you something that happened to you in the past not something that is happening in the present. It may help as a clue but I prefer to get CBC and chemistry panel done because it tells you what is going on at the moment in time. Just my opinion. |
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| I use a lady in TX and have been very happy with the results. I did 2 horses the first time and was very impressed with the accuracy of what she found, and the things I was unable to see that she found turned out to be accurate as they showed great improvement once given the appropriate herbs. As for showing things only in the past, that's not exactly accurate. You can slip at t barrel race and notice your horse is off, take a hare sample right then and send it in to find exactly what was injured....I know its not for everyone, but there is a lot more to it than most people think. If at all curious I would recommend contacting someone who does it and get a full understanding of what it is and how it is done. I just sent off the samples on the rest of the barn (10 total) and I cannot wait to see the results on all of them. I find it highly interesting and anything I can treat/prevent/cure naturally I think is a great thing! The lady I use is named Heather, her company is Simply Equine in Tyler, TX |
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Location: 31 lengths farms | I had really good results with putting mine on the herbs that were recommended for the issues that showed on their analysis. My mare went from peeing blood if she trotted across the field to being able to be ridden again. |
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| Alright so bumping this old thread up but...I was going to send in the $25 to get hair analysied by Heather because I have heard such RAVE reviews but turns out, she doesn't do anything scientific...the lord speaks to her about the horses. Now don't get me wrong everyone is entitled to their beliefs and whatnot but I can't help but think that is false advertising?? Why doesn't she just come right out and say she's an animal communicator? 
There are screenshots on FB I can grab from another gal who didn't know anything scientific was actually being done and quite a few other people are upset now too. I mean I'm not out any money but....thoughts? |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | I use Heather and I also use a live blood cell analysis guy. Both have come up with the same results on more than one of my horses.... Heather's stuff has made a huge difference in my horses. Whatever she does, it works for me. So i'll continue doing it ;) |
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Location: Louisiana | cheeka77 - 2016-12-03 12:42 AM
Alright so bumping this old thread up but...I was going to send in the $25 to get hair analysied by Heather because I have heard such RAVE reviews but turns out, she doesn't do anything scientific...the lord speaks to her about the horses. Now don't get me wrong everyone is entitled to their beliefs and whatnot but I can't help but think that is false advertising?? Why doesn't she just come right out and say she's an animal communicator? There are screenshots on FB I can grab from another gal who didn't know anything scientific was actually being done and quite a few other people are upset now too. I mean I'm not out any money but....thoughts?
I just saw that...
While I have zero problem with how she does what she does, I would have appreciated knowing that when she gave me my horse's results.
I never ordered any herbs bc I believe in science and just could NOT figure out how dead hair would give those type of results.
Again, I have no problem with how she gets her results, but why not advertise that??
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| jschipper - 2016-12-05 9:22 AM
I use Heather and I also use a live blood cell analysis guy. Both have come up with the same results on more than one of my horses.... Heather's stuff has made a huge difference in my horses. Whatever she does, it works for me. So i'll continue doing it ;)
Not trying to bash her, I just think it's very misleading that she wouldn't be completely honest. Even on the messages she was reluctant to admit she wasn't actually doing anything scientific. I really wanted to try it and I may still because I'm not against animal communicators but come on...
Even a visit to the website say's nothing about it and why do I need to cut a piece of hair and mail it if nothing is even being done? |
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Location: Alberta, Canada | cheeka77 - 2016-12-05 8:04 AM
jschipper - 2016-12-05 9:22 AM
I use Heather and I also use a live blood cell analysis guy. Both have come up with the same results on more than one of my horses.... Heather's stuff has made a huge difference in my horses. Whatever she does, it works for me. So i'll continue doing it ;)
Not trying to bash her, I just think it's very misleading that she wouldn't be completely honest. Even on the messages she was reluctant to admit she wasn't actually doing anything scientific. I really wanted to try it and I may still because I'm not against animal communicators but come on...
Even a visit to the website say's nothing about it and why do I need to cut a piece of hair and mail it if nothing is even being done?
Absolutely. I get that. I wonder why she isn't being honest. Makes me a little sad because she is very good at whatever it is she does and she is a super nice lady! |
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| Where do I find the information stating she is an animal communicator on fb? I would like to read up on this. I did not know she wasn't doing anything scientific either |
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| https://www.facebook.com/groups/849754915147919/search/?query=heather%20benson Let me know if this link works, otherwise I'll try and post the screenshots I am just terrible with getting pictures to load on here lol! |
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Location: Texas | I used it and have absolutly loved my results. We are all skeptical at the beginning and not sure if it will work for us. But if you don't try, you don't know. I had Loretta West with Equine Therapys work on my horse and do an analysis of his hair.. We started off on 4 and now down to 2. Each time it has been different. My chiropractor who only see's my horse once a year saw an improvement and my farrier has definatly seen a difference in his feet. I've seen a difference in performance and over all condition...She is also a dealer for Equine Natural Care that Kassidy Cruse and other girls on are. It's all natural...She is on facebook under Equine Therapys and you can check out testimonials on Equine Natural care too on facebook. |
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Location: Riding Crackhead. | dashnlotti - 2016-12-05 10:03 AM
cheeka77 - 2016-12-03 12:42 AM
Alright so bumping this old thread up but...I was going to send in the $25 to get hair analysied by Heather because I have heard such RAVE reviews but turns out, she doesn't do anything scientific...the lord speaks to her about the horses. Now don't get me wrong everyone is entitled to their beliefs and whatnot but I can't help but think that is false advertising?? Why doesn't she just come right out and say she's an animal communicator? There are screenshots on FB I can grab from another gal who didn't know anything scientific was actually being done and quite a few other people are upset now too. I mean I'm not out any money but....thoughts?
I just saw that...
While I have zero problem with how she does what she does, I would have appreciated knowing that when she gave me my horse's results.
I never ordered any herbs bc I believe in science and just could NOT figure out how dead hair would give those type of results.
Again, I have no problem with how she gets her results, but why not advertise that??
I don't give a rip how she comes up with the results. All I know is she hit the nail on the head with my gelding. If she came right out and said she was an animal communicator every one on here would rip her apart. |
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| CYA Ranch - 2016-12-06 8:23 PM dashnlotti - 2016-12-05 10:03 AM cheeka77 - 2016-12-03 12:42 AM Alright so bumping this old thread up but...I was going to send in the $25 to get hair analysied by Heather because I have heard such RAVE reviews but turns out, she doesn't do anything scientific...the lord speaks to her about the horses. Now don't get me wrong everyone is entitled to their beliefs and whatnot but I can't help but think that is false advertising?? Why doesn't she just come right out and say she's an animal communicator?
There are screenshots on FB I can grab from another gal who didn't know anything scientific was actually being done and quite a few other people are upset now too. I mean I'm not out any money but....thoughts? I just saw that... While I have zero problem with how she does what she does, I would have appreciated knowing that when she gave me my horse's results. I never ordered any herbs bc I believe in science and just could NOT figure out how dead hair would give those type of results. Again, I have no problem with how she gets her results, but why not advertise that?? I don't give a rip how she comes up with the results. All I know is she hit the nail on the head with my gelding. If she came right out and said she was an animal communicator every one on here would rip her apart.
While I would agree people would be more apt to tear her apart, I think it's very shady how she is currently advertising and not disclosing how she gets her results as opposed to others and I think she'll get more flak. I will say I have heard great things about her which is what lead me to finding out what she does but giving my horse herbs for things not scientific...hmmmm.
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| Go to Natural Care Herbs. They do a hair analysis and it explains the process on the website. I have done it and before I bought the herbs, had a vet go over the horse. She was right on with what was wrong.
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| I used Heather for my 3 yr old filly & Nugget is doing great now. I talked to Heather about my filly & she was very nice. Whatever, she helped my filly & that's what counts. I don't think she is hiding anything. Heck Mary Burger uses her. I think that says something right there. |
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Location: Oklahoma | Just because a pro says they are sponsored or says they use the product doesn't mean they actually do. Im not saying Mary Burger doesn't use her products just I know for a fact just because they take pics and promote the product that they sometimes don't use or believe in them You have to be your own adovacate for your horse! I learned the hard way. I used to try supplements and herbs without paying much attention to the ingredients and my horses paid for it! I know for a fact that it was the product because both horses was on the same thing at the same time and both horses feet went really bad and both were standing laminitic as soon as I pulled product off both horses at the same time stood normal after 24 hours of not feeding the product. I have fed glucasmine with no problem thru the years I think it was the combination of the ingredients that was in this product that did it and yes the product was from heather. She really did help my horses and I would not have a problem ordering more products from her but I will and am paying so much attention to ingredients You have good and bad with anything. I will say that at the beginning of using her products I had no problems and horses was doing great for 3 months until I added the product with the glucosamine At this time I am not using any of her products because I have found a different route using less ingredients. |
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| Turnburnsis - 2016-12-07 11:07 PM
Just because a pro says they are sponsored or says they use the product doesn't mean they actually do. Im not saying Mary Burger doesn't use her products just I know for a fact just because they take pics and promote the product that they sometimes don't use or believe in them You have to be your own adovacate for your horse! I learned the hard way. I used to try supplements and herbs without paying much attention to the ingredients and my horses paid for it! I know for a fact that it was the product because both horses was on the same thing at the same time and both horses feet went really bad and both were standing laminitic as soon as I pulled product off both horses at the same time stood normal after 24 hours of not feeding the product. I have fed glucasmine with no problem thru the years I think it was the combination of the ingredients that was in this product that did it and yes the product was from heather. She really did help my horses and I would not have a problem ordering more products from her but I will and am paying so much attention to ingredients You have good and bad with anything. I will say that at the beginning of using her products I had no problems and horses was doing great for 3 months until I added the product with the glucosamine At this time I am not using any of her products because I have found a different route using less ingredients.
Actually I never saw pictures of Mary promoting Heather. I was told from a reliable person that Mary used Heather for horse hair analisist " I know I spelled that word wrong " & used her herbs for her horses. All I'm saying is Heather helped my horse. Nugget is off the herbs & doing great. Haven't had her on anything since. |
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| I used Heather, I didn't find out till after that nothing was specifically tested in the hair. My results "your horse is bored and could use a kidney flush...heres my product line".
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | turnedout - 2016-12-08 6:09 PM
I used Heather, I didn't find out till after that nothing was specifically tested in the hair. My results "your horse is bored and could use a kidney flush...heres my product line".
Was pretty disappointed overall.
Is she an animal communicator too? Can you get a package deal?
HHA combined with a session with your horse? That would be an attractive combo, I'd think. |
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| I personally spoke with Heather and asked straight up if she speaks with God or animal communication to get her results and she says that is a false lie made up about her. She did go into explaining how the results are found but I don't want to attempt to repeat because I know I won't say it all right. But point of my story is she said she wishes people would directly message or speak with her before starting these rumors and that's a good enough answer for me. |
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Location: Oklahoma | I have also talked to h r personally and even when I had problems. There is no test. Part of it is muscle testing |
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| RoadToVegas - 2016-12-11 10:06 PM I personally spoke with Heather and asked straight up if she speaks with God or animal communication to get her results and she says that is a false lie made up about her. She did go into explaining how the results are found but I don't want to attempt to repeat because I know I won't say it all right. But point of my story is she said she wishes people would directly message or speak with her before starting these rumors and that's a good enough answer for me.
Can you at least attempt to explain? The link I posted shows her replys and there is no scientific testing... unless you can share anything else? |
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| cheeka77 - 2016-12-12 12:40 AM
RoadToVegas - 2016-12-11 10:06 PM I personally spoke with Heather and asked straight up if she speaks with God or animal communication to get her results and she says that is a false lie made up about her. She did go into explaining how the results are found but I don't want to attempt to repeat because I know I won't say it all right. But point of my story is she said she wishes people would directly message or speak with her before starting these rumors and that's a good enough answer for me.
Can you at least attempt to explain? The link I posted shows her replys and there is no scientific testing... unless you can share anything else?
She explained it to me as there are certain markers in the hair that show inflammation and such. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | RoadToVegas - 2016-12-12 8:07 AM
cheeka77 - 2016-12-12 12:40 AM
RoadToVegas - 2016-12-11 10:06 PM I personally spoke with Heather and asked straight up if she speaks with God or animal communication to get her results and she says that is a false lie made up about her. She did go into explaining how the results are found but I don't want to attempt to repeat because I know I won't say it all right. But point of my story is she said she wishes people would directly message or speak with her before starting these rumors and that's a good enough answer for me.
Can you at least attempt to explain? The link I posted shows her replys and there is no scientific testing... unless you can share anything else?
She explained it to me as there are certain markers in the hair that show inflammation and such.
Why the secrecy? What "markers" is she talking about? Can anyone at least try to explain? |
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| Bear - 2016-12-12 8:37 AM
RoadToVegas - 2016-12-12 8:07 AM
cheeka77 - 2016-12-12 12:40 AM
RoadToVegas - 2016-12-11 10:06 PM I personally spoke with Heather and asked straight up if she speaks with God or animal communication to get her results and she says that is a false lie made up about her. She did go into explaining how the results are found but I don't want to attempt to repeat because I know I won't say it all right. But point of my story is she said she wishes people would directly message or speak with her before starting these rumors and that's a good enough answer for me.
Can you at least attempt to explain? The link I posted shows her replys and there is no scientific testing... unless you can share anything else?
She explained it to me as there are certain markers in the hair that show inflammation and such.
Why the secrecy? What "markers" is she talking about? Can anyone at least try to explain?
Like I said there was no secrecy to it but I am not going to attempt to explain in words that I would use because it's going to sound uneducated. Message her on her fb business site and ask detailed questions. That's what I would want before a bunch of people bashed my business. |
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Location: Bastrop, Texas | The only supporting evidence for hair analysis is "testimonials".......lots of testimonials that basically state, "I know it works because it worked for me."
Here are some facts:
-Levels of minerals in the hair do NOT correlate with levels in the body.
-Laboratory techniques are inconsistent — the same hair analyzed in different labs shows different readings. This has been corroborated many times.
-There are no known "normal" ranges for minerals in hair, so the numbers given by the lab are nonsensical.
-Hair analysis is affected by color, texture, age, exposure to the environment, and a host of other factors, rendering results invalid.
-Most importantly, hair analysis has never been proven to help diagnose or treat any disease.
-Hair analysis does have a limited role in forensic toxicology.
These statements are not in reference to DNA analysis from DNA in hair roots. That is useful in detecting certain genetic diseases. That's something different. |
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| Bear - 2016-12-12 10:03 AM
The only supporting evidence for hair analysis is "testimonials".......lots of testimonials that basically state, "I know it works because it worked for me."
Here are some facts:
-Levels of minerals in the hair do NOT correlate with levels in the body.
-Laboratory techniques are inconsistent — the same hair analyzed in different labs shows different readings. This has been corroborated many times.
-There are no known "normal" ranges for minerals in hair, so the numbers given by the lab are nonsensical.
-Hair analysis is affected by color, texture, age, exposure to the environment, and a host of other factors, rendering results invalid.
-Most importantly, hair analysis has never been proven to help diagnose or treat any disease.
-Hair analysis does have a limited role in forensic toxicology.
These statements are not in reference to DNA analysis from DNA in hair roots. That is useful in detecting certain genetic diseases. That's something different.
Then don't use it I guess. Problem solved. |
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